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Shane McGlaun (Blog) - December 15, 2009 10:21 AM

23 comment(s) - last by Lerianis.. on Dec 23 at 4:45 AM

Corsair 24GB RAM kit (Source: Corsair)

RAM kit alone costs more than a nice notebook

With virtualization becoming more and more common in the business world and at home with enthusiasts, the need for memory in desktop computers and business machines is growing. Intel X58-based machines are capable of supporting lots of RAM and Corsair has announced a new RAM kit specifically for the platform.

The new Corsair 24GB Dominator DDR3 memory kit -- part number CMD24GX3M6A1333C9 -- includes six 4GB RAM modules that have timings of 9-9-9-27 and need 1.65VDIMM. The modules are designed for Intel X58 motherboards.

Corsair uses its patented DHX+ heatsink technology for cooling and the modules use American Racing Blue heat sinks for added bling. The huge RAM kit is available now on the Corsair website and includes a cooling fan to keep the RAM cool under high demand.

"Corsair’s 24GB Dominator memory kit is perfect for high-performance computing applications, including computational research, HD digital content creation, working with multiple virtual machines, and other data-intensive applications,” said John Beekley, VP of Technical Marketing at Corsair. “The latest multi-core Intel and AMD CPUs, combined with sophisticated graphics processors from Nvidia and AMD, are capable of performing incredible workloads. Corsair’s 24GB Dominator memory kit enables the large number of concurrent threads and substantial datasets required by these applications."

The worst part of the new RAM kit is certainly the price. Corsair is asking $1,349.99 for the kit. The RAM does include a lifetime warranty and that included Dominator Airflow Fan uses 60mm fans.

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Really?

By bubbastrangelove on 12/15/2009 11:08:12 AM , Rating: 1

Can anyone supply me with a real-world scenario where 24 gig of memory would be needed for a home PC?

I have 4gig on my PC and I can surf the net, play ddo, listen to music and have a movie running in the background on my AMD 940 deneb, 4870 ATI card and never reach 3gig.

Memory isn't the bottleneck in a modern pc.

RE: Really?

By monstergroup on 12/15/2009 11:32:17 AM , Rating: 5

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Corsair’s 24GB Dominator memory kit is perfect for high-performance computing applications, including computational research, HD digital content creation, working with multiple virtual machines, and other data-intensive applications

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RE: Really?

By amanojaku on 12/15/2009 11:42:20 AM , Rating: 1

I think bubbastrangelove was pointing out that Corsair's market is the typical consumer who owns a PC that's worth less than $5,000, which ranges from the budget user to the extreme enthusiast. Emphasis on "extreme", as most people can't justify a system that costs more than $2,000.

24GiB of RAM is found in the business space, and it's rare to find customers who'll buy 3rd party RAM for a Dell, HP, IBM, etc... Maybe this is aimed at OEMs who do system builds.

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RE: Really?

By jimhsu on 12/15/2009 12:33:03 PM , Rating: 2

Scientific apps. At my lab, we're talking about upgrading a 48GB system because "it doesn't have enough RAM" ... doing joins on hundred million row tables does use that much memory.

Though I have no idea why they would want 3rd party RAM.

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RE: Really?

By amanojaku on 12/15/2009 1:51:30 PM , Rating: 2

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Though I have no idea why they would want 3rd party RAM.

Because it's cheaper than vendor RAM, which ironically comes from 3rd parties like Micron, but not Corsair. FYI, I use Corsair, Crucial and Kingston at home, so I have nothing against these vendors. It's just that Dell, HP, IBM, etc... usually have strict support statements that are voided when 3rd party RAM is installed. That's why I'm guessing this is for OEMs like SuperMicro. I'm just as clueless as the next guy as to whom this is being marketed.

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RE: Really?

By The0ne on 12/17/2009 4:37:39 PM , Rating: 2

You don't want 3rd party RAMs in critical applications. Just like in the server market, you want products that are reliable and have gained market trust.

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RE: Really?

By QueBert on 12/17/2009 7:06:54 PM , Rating: 3

The only difference is the price, 4 gigs of Micron directly from Dell isn't going to be any different than 4 gigs of Micron from Newegg. It's doubtful Micron makes special memory to Dells specs. Ram directly from Dell or HP or whoever is retardly expensive. From a seller like Newegg, not close to as much for the same shit.

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RE: Really?

By Flunk on 12/18/2009 12:49:52 PM , Rating: 3

Wow, your systems vendor has you brainwashed really well.

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RE: Really?

By donxvi on 12/15/2009 4:56:42 PM , Rating: 2

Interesting about 3rd party RAM.
Where I work (major manufacturer with large IT dept) we just go to the Crucial website and order up more RAM when we need it for our laptops. Much more expedient than trying to order through IT.
How is Corsair's website for recommending RAM for laptops? I'm a big fan of Corsair, we could use them just as easily.

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RE: Really?

By PrezWeezy on 12/16/2009 2:57:32 PM , Rating: 3

I (an OEM whitebox builder) just built a server with 24G of RAM for a SQL database. It would have been nice to use a single kit, but as it was I just ordered 2 Kingston 12G kits. All together it only cost me $700. I can't imagine ever paying this price for a 24G kit when I can buy something just as good for well under $1,000.

In the same line of thought, can anyone tell me why the Server 12G kit is only 484 and the Desktop 12G kit is 1400? Maybe it's because of the registered/unregistered issue but that just seems like a little bit of a price gouge to me...

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RE: Really?

By Rhaido on 12/15/2009 2:18:55 PM , Rating: 2

24? No. 12? Yes. I have not tried myself but have seen Newegg posts where users with 12GB RAM on Windows 7 64 bit disable the page file and run everything through RAM.

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RE: Really?

By vapore0n on 12/15/09, Rating: 0

RE: Really?

By Mclendo06 on 12/16/2009 6:03:34 PM , Rating: 2

Unless you count me doing FEA analyses on my computer at home, then no. We have a dual Nehalem box with 24GB that I have managed to peg at 100% RAM usage doing a direct solve on a pretty large Finite Element problem, but that obviously doesn't count for home use. And if you're running a problem like that, you're probably better off using an iterative solver anyways (which uses a fraction of the memory). I figure there are still some situations where such a massive amount of RAM is useful, though, such as running a bunch of VMs or dealing with a very large database or dataset. But home use - not yet. We'll definitely get there once 64 bit adaptation is more widespread. I remember when 16MB of RAM in a Pentium 90 was more memory than I knew how to use...

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RE: Really?

By AnnihilatorX on 12/18/2009 9:13:19 AM , Rating: 1

This is typical Moores Law of computing power vs computing requirement though.

Remember famous Bill Gate's quote when he said 384k of memory is ought to be enough for everyone? It was a pefect correct statement back then.

I can envision games using 24GB of memory in 10 years time. Obviously not now.

For scientific or workstation of course the argument don't apply.

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RE: Really?

By webdawg77 on 12/20/2009 11:32:32 AM , Rating: 3

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates ... check out the misattributed section. He never said this, and it's about 640k not 384k.

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Remember famous Bill Gate's quote when he said 384k of memory is ought to be enough for everyone? It was a pefect correct statement back then.

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RE: Really?

By daviangel on 12/20/2009 7:50:12 PM , Rating: 3

PORN!
I got a SQL database hooked up to thumbsplus to view it all and it easily eats up 5GB just by itself!
Before I started using a SQL database my pc would slow to a crawl trying to look at all my PORN at once LOL!

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RE: Really?

By aqwan135 on 12/20/09, Rating: 0

Not for gamers, yet.

By honkyMcSchnozell on 12/22/2009 7:42:52 PM , Rating: 2

Video transcoding and handling raw uncompressed video data is very demanding on ram. Anyone who does a lot of this work will tell you that even 24gig is small, nice but small. Its really not that much in some lines of work.

I couldn't imagine how much ram you would require for handling 1hr of uncompressed 1080p HD video.

RE: Not for gamers, yet.

By Lerianis on 12/23/2009 4:45:57 AM , Rating: 2

Not much! The fact is that UNCOMPRESSED 1080p HD video doesn't exist! Every single thing even on the professional market encodes the picture using some sort of compression algorithm... it's just that some are 'lossless' as far as a normal human eye can tell, and they can run on a computer with 1GB of RAM very easily.

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Oh Em Gee !

By theplaidfad on 12/15/2009 12:09:00 PM , Rating: 2

In for 2!

Little known fact but you can't run 24GB on Win 7 Home Premium

By namechamps on 12/15/2009 7:14:20 PM , Rating: 2

Need at Pro, Ultimate, or Enterprise version of Windows 7.

Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition = Max 16GB
Windows Vista Home Premium = Max 16GB
Windows 7 Home Premium = Max 16GB

Windows Server 2008 R2 Foundation = Max 8GB
Windows Vista Home Basic = Max 8GB
Windows 7 Home Basic = Max 8GB
Windows 7 Starter = Max 2GB

In case it matters in the future Win7 pro, enterprise, ultimate are limited to 192GB (XP & Vista top out at 128GB).

Prestige

By Kyanzes on 12/17/2009 12:18:19 PM , Rating: 2

Well, offering such a kit also has a prestige value attached to it. Also, major IT sites mention Corsair because of this product. In fact, they could have as little as a few hundred kits available yet the announcement generated a valuable advertisement of the Corsair brand towards potential customers.

Ofc it's merely my personal opinion. Obviously, there can be practical uses for such a kit.

DROOL

By TheEinstein on 12/17/2009 5:49:06 PM , Rating: 2

Ok I am one of the few who is wanting this...

I run excel files with 20 pages filled with calcs (or rather I dream to do so, but it always slows to a crawl) so I can determine the variance on my compression systems I create... oh this would make my day.

I have been a good little boy for the whole year, who wants to buy this for me for Christmas... gotta be this year, next year I cannot take such cause I am running for office...