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Ghost Recon 2 painted Commodore xx
Commodore is indeed back but it's no different from everyone else this time around

DailyTech previously reported that Commodore was expected to make a splash back into the gaming scene by introducing computers targeted specifically towards gamers. The company left the scene more than two decades ago after launching the famous Commodore64.

Today Commodore confirms the reports after it launched its new website and revealed upcoming system specifications. Officially called the Commodore xx, the new flagship system will be based on current off-the-shelf components.

Official specifications include:
  • Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core processor QX6700: 2.66GHz 8M Cache
  • ASUS P5N32-E nForce 680i SLI motherboard
  • 2x 150GB 10000 RPM SATA Raid 0 and 2x 500GB 7200 RPM SATA Raid 1 hard drives
  • 4GB Corsair Dominator 2xTwin2x2048-8500C5D memory: 1066MHz
  • Philips DVD-RW optical drive
  • 1000W ICE Cube power supply
  • Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
  • 2x NVIDIA 8800 GTX 768MB graphics cards
Commodore will be offering three other models of its gaming PC called the GX, GS and G, stepping in down in specifications respectively. The Commodore G system will ship with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor running at 1.86GHz, 2GB of memory and an NVIDIA 7900 GS.

Despite hopes that the new Commodore system will ship with a brand new version of Amiga OS, the Commodore PCs will ship with Windows Vista Ultimate. However, Commodore indicated that its systems will ship with a Commodore64 emulator with more than 50 classic games preloaded.

Customers who purchase can fully customize system components such as illuminated fan colors and case art work. While all this initially sounds exciting, Commodore is stepping into an industry that is very much different from two decades ago. Today, companies such as Alienware, Falcon Northwest and Voodoo PC offer everything that the Commodore system has and more. At this time, systems cannot be ordered and so there are no details on what system components can be customized beyond the cosmetics.

According to Commodore:
These machines come packaged in a specially designed, heavy-duty yet stylish casing, capable of withstanding our revolutionary painting process. Choose from our library of artwork to personalize your high performance gaming PC and express your own taste and style.
Commodore indicated that systems will be ready for order sometime in mid-April of this year. No prices have yet been defined.

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By rmaharaj on 3/15/2007 8:01:28 AM , Rating: 2
1x 500GB 7200 RPM SATA Raid 1 hard drives

How can you have a RAID array with only 1 disk?

By Master Kenobi on 3/15/2007 8:06:30 AM , Rating: 5
Yes, that seemed a bit odd to me. I think he meant 2x 500GB's in a Raid 1 Config.

On a side note, this is like an Alienware. Sure the case looks spiffy and all, but your paying mostly for name and looks, not whats under the hood. Better off buying parts and building yourself..... now if Commodore wants to sell cases for say $200, I might be interested, otherwise they can stick it just like Alienware.

By TSS on 3/15/2007 8:24:46 AM , Rating: 2
it seems they used the commodore name for another product totally unrelated to the commodore memory or trying to recapture anything from the old commodore glory.

just a name for money now, like the last time it failed. too bad.

By cheetah2k on 3/15/2007 8:26:03 PM , Rating: 2
And.... while i love the Commodore classic games, only 50 of them are preloaded?? why not preload the entire collection??

Apart from the case (which looks like something from Antec - but with a coat of paint) it would be cheaper to BYO (build your own)

By Mitch101 on 3/15/2007 8:37:06 AM , Rating: 2
Dont laugh too hard but I had to work with a guy who we caught trying to create a raid with 2 partitions on the same drive. (Wachovia of all places) I see this a lot and with people who just wont ask for help and try to hide the problems they create or just blame Microsoft or a lesser tech (Pfizer).

The sad part is I have seen a lot of this. Companies wonder why thier servers constantly have performance or stability issues and the first thing they do is run out to buy more stuff to monitor the stuff for problems.

I seriously think companies that have stability and performance issues need to look internally sometimes at the staff as being a possible problem. Its not Microsoft thats the problem and third party applications dont fix stupid.

The Best is Blackberry monitoring. I cant tell you how much money companies are quickly throwing away at monitoring Blackberry with third party applications instead of just developing the stuff inhouse. It took me all of 2 days to create a monitoring application that actually repaired the problems instead of sitting there and announcing the Blackberry server has a problem and Im not a professional developer.

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 8:46:46 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. I remember interviewing for an IT job and the guy was asking me simple questions like "What is RAID?" and "If I have 2 250GB discs and 1 160GB disc and do a RAID 5, what is the end usable drive size?" When I answered them all right he told me "I've interviewed a lot of guys with years of experience that didn't know that stuff." Scares me...

By themadmilkman on 3/15/2007 8:48:55 AM , Rating: 2
Did you get the job?

By Master Kenobi on 3/15/2007 9:02:24 AM , Rating: 2
That's a good question, 320GB should be the answer but that's just me offhand. I could be wrong. I think its the number of drives -1 (Parity) and multiplied by the smallest of the disks (Thus why its generally preferred to have all disks the same size, maximum usable space).

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 12:12:22 PM , Rating: 2
Lol. No. I got a better job now though.

By Mitch101 on 3/15/2007 9:35:36 AM , Rating: 3
The sad part is they hold most of the Employee Jobs and very talented guys are busy working as Contractors being interviewed by these idiots. There is nothing worse than being interviewed by a company with Idiots asking the questions or ones asking the wrong questions (TIAA-CREF) not to mention they dont hire the talented ones because they fear they will look like the idiots they are. So companies IT departments get worse over time because the dumb hire dumber to keep themselves looking somewhat talented.

Seriously I have seen this a lot. A mild-mid level technical persons wont hire anyone better than themselves because they fear the new guy will outshine them and the new guy will get moved up and the old guy let go or wont look as good giving them poor pay increases over time. This seems to be the new trend in IT. The talented ones eventually leave the field because stupidity has taken over or start thier own companies.

I think HR departments at a lot of companies need to be restaffed also. HR is a fast growing area that just isnt getting the right people for the job. But I guess this is every job now. Auto Mechanics are an area I have to say probably has a worse idiot to talent ratio than IT.

By fic2 on 3/15/2007 12:46:52 PM , Rating: 2
There was an article/study done several years ago that basically came to the conclusion that incompentent people don't know that they are incompentent and can't recognize people that are incompentent.

By arazok on 3/15/2007 3:48:09 PM , Rating: 2
I read that auricle, or at least on similar to it. It was about competent people vs incompetent people.

To summarize:

Competent people think they are incompetent, because they always worry they are making a mistake.

Incompetent people think they are competent, because they never bother to ask themselves the question.

By arazok on 3/15/2007 11:42:05 AM , Rating: 2
After hiring (then firring) a string of 'senior programmers', who had clearly never used a computer in their life, we came up with a simple screening test:

Write the code to output the following string in reverse order. You may use any language you like.

The brown fox ran up the hill.

Expected output: "hill the up ran fox brown The"

Only about 10% of the candidates we bring in can successfully write the code. The rest just talk the talk, and submit fake resumes.

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 12:15:00 PM , Rating: 2
string input = "The brown fox ran up the hill."

int i
int end = length(input) - 1

for(i = length(input)-1; i >= 0; i--) {
if(input[i] == ' ') {
print input[i+1:end-1] " "
end = i
print input[0:end-1]

Or did you want the period and forgot about it? :)

By Mitch101 on 3/15/2007 12:21:01 PM , Rating: 2
Nice 10 lines and 6 seconds before I summarized how I would do it.

You just found out your at least in the top 10%. Now he is going to have to change the interview question because all the poor developers are going to nix your little snippet.

Too bad he clarified any language. Now do it in Commodore 64 basic. ;)

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 12:45:15 PM , Rating: 2
Lol. I was too young to use and my parents too poor to afford a Commodore 64.

If you have a CS degree or any computer technology degree for that matter and can't do that, you should go play on the freeway.

This statement is meant to be taken literally. But if you're stupid enough to actually do it, don't blame me.


By Fritzr on 3/16/2007 2:25:18 AM , Rating: 2
Not the neatest code, but it will run on all versions of Commodore 8bit BASIC :)

Spaces outside of quotes included for readability.
(For those unfamiliar with this BASIC Line 95 is a comment line :P )

10 i$="The brown fox ran up the hill."
20 for l=1 to len(i$)-1
30 a$=mid$(i$,l,1)
40 if a$=" " then i=i+1
50 if a$<>" " then o$(i)=o$(i)+a$
60 next
70 j=i to 0 step -1
80 print o$(j);
90 if j then print " ";
95 remove rem in line 100 if final period is desired :)
100 rem if j=0 then print "."
110 next
120 print

By Fritzr on 3/16/2007 2:28:48 AM , Rating: 2
Grrr ... dropped the FOR when copying the code to the comment. Corrected version below...

Be nice to be able to edit ... oh well

By Fritzr on 3/16/2007 2:27:09 AM , Rating: 2
Not the neatest code, but it will run on all versions of Commodore 8bit BASIC :)

Spaces outside of quotes included for readability.
(For those unfamiliar with this BASIC Line 95 is a comment line :P )

10 i$="The brown fox ran up the hill."
20 for l=1 to len(i$)-1
30 a$=mid$(i$,l,1)
40 if a$=" " then i=i+1
50 if a$<>" " then o$(i)=o$(i)+a$
60 next
70 for j=i to 0 step -1
80 print o$(j);
90 if j then print " ";
95 remove rem in line 100 if final period is desired :)
100 rem if j=0 then print "."
110 next
120 print

By MrDiSante on 3/15/2007 12:45:08 PM , Rating: 2
This is probably hell-knows how much more resource-intensive (and uses a deprecated class), but it's easier for the programmer:

import java.util.*;
public class reverseString{
public static void main(String[] args) {

Vector holder = new Vector ();
String input = "The brown fox ran up the hill."
String output = "";

StringTokenizer tokenizer = new StringTokenizer(input, " ", true);

while (tokenizer.hasMoreTokens)

while (holder.size()!=0)
output =(String) holder.remove(holder.size() - 1);


By MrDiSante on 3/15/2007 12:46:22 PM , Rating: 2
**** output+=(String) holder.remove(holder.size() - 1);

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 12:50:21 PM , Rating: 2

You must have missed my Java version below. What the hell are you using a Vector for in something as simple as that?

By funks on 3/15/2007 6:38:33 PM , Rating: 2
StringBuilder wordsBuff = new StringBuilder();

List<String> words = Arrays.asList("The brown fox ran up the hill.".split("\\s"));


for (Iterator<String> i = words.iterator(); i.hasNext();) {

String word =;

if (word.endsWith(".")) {
word = word.substring(0, word.length() - 1);


if (i.hasNext()) {
wordsBuff.append(" ");
} else {


By Scorpion on 3/15/2007 1:47:27 PM , Rating: 2
int end = length(input) - 1

for(i = length(input)-1; i >= 0; i--) {...

So why did you define "end" and didn't use it in your for loop? ;) (just harassing you)

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 2:32:50 PM , Rating: 2
I did.....

for(i = length(input)-1; i >= 0; i--) {
if(input[i] == ' ') {
print input[i+1:end-1] " "
end = i

By Souka on 3/15/2007 3:34:44 PM , Rating: 2
ahh comeon... no Assebly coders out there??? ;)

By Crank the Planet on 3/15/2007 4:25:24 PM , Rating: 2
10 PRINT"hill the up ran fox brown The" , END

How did you like that!!! Only 1 line. C64 BASIC was cool. No gadgetry, no gimmicks, simple and clean.

I know this is a new post but did I get the job?

By KristopherKubicki on 3/15/2007 5:09:41 PM , Rating: 3
perl -e "print join(' ',reverse(split(' ','The brown fox ran up the hill')));"

By Mitch101 on 3/15/2007 12:15:06 PM , Rating: 2
Amazing 10% and thats the seniors.

I dont consider myself a programmer as my primary ability but I can say I would parse the string to add a charachter to a variable until it reached a space. When it reached the space I would copy the variable into an array. When I reach the end of the string I would output the array in reverse order.

Im thinking do while loop until the char is a space is the main loop to doing this.

About 12 lines of code for someone like me.

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 12:19:51 PM , Rating: 2
string input = "The brow fox ran up the hill.";
string output = "";
StringTokenizer tokens = new StringTokenizer(input, ' ', false);
while(tokens.hasMoreTokens()) {
output = tokens.nextToken() + " " + output;

Been a while since I've done Java but think thats right.

By Daverino on 3/15/2007 2:00:22 PM , Rating: 2
Awright, beat this!

$text = 'The brown fox ran up the hill';
print (join (" ", reverse (split (/ /, $text))));

By rsubasic on 3/15/2007 2:26:41 PM , Rating: 2
How about this:

Set X="The brown fox ran up the hill",L=$L(X," ")
For I=L:-1:1 WRITE $P(X," ",I)," "

By frobizzle on 3/15/2007 3:59:10 PM , Rating: 2
How about this:

Set X="The brown fox ran up the hill",L=$L(X," ")
For I=L:-1:1 WRITE $P(X," ",I)," "

OOOOH! Just like MS Basic (without the line numbers!

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 2:37:51 PM , Rating: 1
string output = "hill the up ran fox brown The";
print output;


By Dodg3r on 3/15/2007 2:57:57 PM , Rating: 2
LOL. The job is yours!!! :)

By EBH on 3/15/2007 3:24:51 PM , Rating: 2
lol that is great!

its the simple things that elude us

By walk2k on 3/15/2007 3:51:35 PM , Rating: 2
You guys are f'n nerds.

Besides, wouldn't the reverse of that string be "llih eht pu nar ...."

By ksherman on 3/15/2007 5:08:02 PM , Rating: 2
Amen! To both..

By FITCamaro on 3/15/2007 7:15:18 PM , Rating: 1
Don't be jealous. Nerds rule the world outside of high school.

By timmiser on 3/16/2007 2:00:08 AM , Rating: 2
Besides, wouldn't the reverse of that string be "llih eht pu nar ...."

Finally, someone gets it right!

By GoatMonkey on 3/16/2007 10:22:31 AM , Rating: 2
Damn. Mine's a lot of code compared to some of the others. It works though.

static void Main(string[] args)
string original = "The brown fox ran up the hill";
int spaceIndex = 0;
string newString = "";
string tempString = "";
tempString = original;
for (int i=0; i < original.Length; i++){
spaceIndex = tempString.LastIndexOf(" ", tempString.Length);
if (spaceIndex >= 0)
newString += tempString.Substring(spaceIndex, tempString.Length - spaceIndex);
tempString = tempString.Substring(0, spaceIndex);
} else {
newString += " " + tempString;

Console.Write("\n" + newString.Trim());

By timmiser on 3/16/2007 1:53:57 AM , Rating: 2
I'm curious on your answer of what is RAID. Did you say "redundant array of inexpensive disks" or "redundant array of independent disks"?

By GoatMonkey on 3/16/2007 5:47:41 AM , Rating: 3
What are you talking about? RAID is bug spray.

More than 20 years?
By 0ndsk4 on 3/15/2007 8:30:07 AM , Rating: 2
The company left the scene more than two decades ago after launching the famous Commodore64.

Wasn't commodore on the market well into the 90s with the Amiga series? They didn't stop producing Amigas untill like, 1993 or '94. So, 15 years would be more correct.

RE: More than 20 years?
By jpeyton on 3/15/2007 8:33:53 AM , Rating: 2
With no real value to offer besides their name, I see this venture suffering a quick death.

RE: More than 20 years?
By Mitch101 on 3/15/2007 8:40:37 AM , Rating: 2
It has a nostalgia appeal. I would have liked to have seen it come with dual boot of possibly an updated AMIGA OS possible based upon UNIX. I think there is enough of an open source group that would be willing to revive a project like that.

With 64 bit CPU's can we call these Commodore 64's? :)

RE: More than 20 years?
By NainoKami on 3/15/2007 10:25:03 AM , Rating: 2
Am I mistaken in thinking you'd still need a PowerPC processor to run AmigaOS 4? I'm quite certain that this is still the case... Yet you still can't run AmigaOS 4 on a mac with a PPC processor. :(

RE: More than 20 years?
By Mitch101 on 3/15/2007 10:47:44 AM , Rating: 2
You are correct. Since they own Commodore they should have access to the AmigaOS source code. The code could be rewritten and compiled to work on X86 or work out a deal to run an emulator using the Amiga OS.

I really believe there are enough people out there if they opened the source code to the community the community would run with it.

RE: More than 20 years?
By psychobriggsy on 3/15/2007 11:21:40 AM , Rating: 2
AROS is an open source AmigaOS replacement, you can get a distribution that runs in QEmu on Windows, on Linux, or booting natively on x86 hardware.

There's not a lot of people working on it though, so development is slow.

There's also an official AmigaOS 4.0 but that's tied up by the parent company's controlling desires and incompetence, so you need certain PowerPC motherboards to run it on.

RE: More than 20 years?
By johnsonx on 3/15/2007 12:02:08 PM , Rating: 1
Yes, I thought the same thing. "More than 20 years ago" would be 1986. I'd just gotten my first-gen Atari ST then, and the Amiga vs. Atari ST war had just gotten started. Both machines continued to be fairly serious concerns until well into the the 90's. I don't know for sure, but I'd say they "left the scene" around a decade ago.

Two problems with design.....
By Souka on 3/15/2007 10:19:21 AM , Rating: 2
Two problems with thier config.....

1st: Only one optical drive...

2nd: X-Fi extreme gamer? They should be running a Fatal1ty FPS or Elite...

This rig ain't gonna be cheap....yet they can't put in a $20 DVD Rom, or $40 DVD burner... or an extra $40 for a better gamming sound card?

My $.02

(I recently dropped my on-board sound for a X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro card.... BF2142 is soo much better sounding and FPS smoothed out even in heavy combat....

RE: Two problems with design.....
By Souka on 3/15/2007 10:21:31 AM , Rating: 2
Oh...forgot to ask this question.....

No pricing set yet... but how much would it COST for a home-builder to make this PC? How much do you guys THINK they'll charge for such a PC (including paint-job)

RE: Two problems with design.....
By chedrz on 3/15/2007 11:00:17 AM , Rating: 2
A comparable system from the 'Egg would run over $4400...that being said, I used a Silverstone psu since I couldn't find the included one. Makes you wonder just how much Commodore's gonna charge...$5500? $6000?

RE: Two problems with design.....
By exanimas on 3/18/2007 9:12:59 PM , Rating: 2
When I had a lot of free time on my hands I did something similar with a PC on Falcon Northwest. It actually came out to about $4400, and they wanted over $7K for it. I doubt Commodore will be too much different.

By Alphafox78 on 3/15/2007 8:06:32 AM , Rating: 3
Im not sure what I was expecing, but it wasnt this...

Its nice that the commodore name will be tainted with just another gaming pc.. /cry

RE: Disappointing
By teng029 on 3/15/2007 10:24:35 AM , Rating: 2
what exactly were people expecting this new incarnation of commodore to do? reinvent the pc? build its own hardware like apple does?

RE: Disappointing
By edge929 on 3/15/2007 2:36:11 PM , Rating: 2
I don't understand it either. Just another PC maker to me. It's bad enough they "specialize" in gaming rigs.

Don't they realize that gamers are some of the most knowledgeable Do-It-Yourself-ers when it comes to PCs? No true gamer I know would buy a PC just for gaming. Maybe an office PC, but they would build their own gaming rig from the ground up.

If anything, go after Ma and Pa Jones who know crap about computers. The majority of computers I build are for those people. They want to get on the "internets" like GW...

By murray13 on 3/15/2007 10:55:34 AM , Rating: 2
I just looked at Alienware, Voodoo, and Falcon. You can build the same specs from any of them for around $8500us. You can also go buy the components and pay about $6500us.
Granted you have to put it all together and get it overclocked, and customize the case yourself. I wonder if it is worth $2000 to have someone else do it?

Back to my point. If Commodore can price it somewhere south of these three AND have the support and reliability one expects, they might just be able to make a go of it.

That is one BIG IF .

RE: Cost
By walk2k on 3/15/2007 3:50:07 PM , Rating: 1
4 hard drives seems like a waste... Also, the 1000W PSU.... Replace those RAID (overkill for a gaming rig) drives with a single 750GB or 1TB 7200rpm drive for 95% the performance with 20% the heat, noise, and power consumption...

CPU, RAM and SLI vid cards are nice though.

Long live Commodore!

RE: Cost
By ksherman on 3/15/2007 5:14:46 PM , Rating: 2
how much do you know about gaming rigs?!

You don't need anything CLOSE to that size HD for gaming. Get a WD Raptor or two

RE: Cost
By walk2k on 3/15/2007 6:36:44 PM , Rating: 1
Well let's see, I've built about 10 gaming rigs, or parts of, upgrades to, etc... over the years, starting with about the Pentium 90 / MSDOS 3.3 days. Is that enough for you?

The system described here comes with 1300 GB!! worth of HDDs (spread across 4 drives) including 2 WD Raptors (I assume that's what the 10k drives are..). I'm saying, that's way WAY overkill for a "gaming" PC. A) You don't need that much capacity B) you don't need RAID and you probably don't even need a 10k drive. The performance diff. between a 7.2k and 10k for single-user apps is already very low, and for gaming it's practically non-existant. The CPU and GPU are far more important, followed maybe by the amount of system RAM.

By therealnickdanger on 3/15/2007 8:21:39 AM , Rating: 3
Now if they could fit all those parts in the classic C64 case, I would buy it!

RE: L-A-M-E!!!
By Mitch101 on 3/15/2007 9:11:42 AM , Rating: 2
I smell a Mini-ITX project 10 people just started working on with that comment.

By Jackyl on 3/15/2007 9:28:40 AM , Rating: 5
They are just using the brand "Commodore" to sell PC's. It even says on their website that the name Commodore was acquired back in 2005.

I don't want nor need another PC clone. I'd like to see a system fully designed around the old Commodore and a new O/S that is backwards compatible with the old one. Not Vista.

I have two [b]TRS-80/Tandy Color Computer 2 & 3[/b]. In the past there was a third-party trying to come out with a fourth model. It bombed. Once you start changing the components and O/S, you lose the essence of the original. An emulator for old Commodore games does not make this a "Commodore", IMO.

Woo, standard gaming PCs with C= branding.
By psychobriggsy on 3/15/2007 9:56:19 AM , Rating: 2
" The company left the scene more than two decades ago after launching the famous Commodore64. "

Because they never released the Amiga, nor did they struggle on until 1993/4?

Oddly enough it was Commodore's PC business back in the day that left them in financial trouble.

As for these systems, who cares?

By Alphafox78 on 3/15/2007 10:52:44 AM , Rating: 2
Before that they made office equipment, such as file cabinets. I saw one onece, it its funny to see a file cabinent witht he commodore badge on it, hah.

Does anyone else think this?
By regnez on 3/15/2007 9:22:10 AM , Rating: 2
The logo looks like a Metroid turned sideways.

RE: Does anyone else think this?
By walk2k on 3/15/07, Rating: 0
Is there room for more?
By shaw on 3/15/2007 3:53:16 PM , Rating: 2
Is there room for another company like this? No way it's going to last unless they do something different. I don't see it lasting.

hmmm? where to spend my money
By rdeegvainl on 3/15/2007 4:01:36 PM , Rating: 2
If I had enough money for the parts, I would just pay of my CAR instead! Or wait for it, use the difference i would save in doing it myself to pay of my car...
Though I wouldn't argue if someone donated the system to me :D

sux ass
By ElJefe69 on 3/15/2007 9:06:00 PM , Rating: 2
This system sux ass.

if it was smart and worth the effort it would run a true c64 alongside the machine. the emulator isnt bad but...

also they could have 5 1/4" floppy drive that would read c64/c128 disks. Something like a 1571 drive inside it. But, the company wasted money on vista and sli. retarded.

By kyleb2112 on 3/16/2007 5:00:34 AM , Rating: 2
The should have called it the Commodore65 . Put a smile on a lot of old school gamers' faces.

By missbunny998 on 3/16/2007 6:57:21 AM , Rating: 2
I can build better on my own, and paint my own cases....a pretty pink, thank you very much. :P

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