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It's not clear when the president will issue it

Privacy guidelines for commercial drones operating in U.S. airspace are in the works as U.S. President Barack Obama plans to issue an executive order.

According to a new report from Politico, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) will be responsible for creating the guidelines. It will do so by taking suggestions from companies and consumer groups.

“We don’t have any details to share at this time, but there is an inter-agency process underway,” said White House spokesman Ned Price.

Some privacy concerns surrounding these unmanned aerial vehicles are the kinds of data and images they can collect, and also whether they'll be peeking into people's windows or lurking around in backyards. 

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is responsible for making the formal rules for the drones in U.S. airspace, but these rules haven't addressed any privacy issues -- which the FAA has been criticized for.

The FAA hasn't had an easy time with commercial drones this year. In March, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) administration law judge found that the FAA shouldn’t have fined a man $10,000 because his drone was no different than a model aircraft. 
However, after that ruling was handed down, the FAA issued its first commercial license for unmanned aerial vehicles in June. 
No specific date has been set for when the President will issue the executive order.

Source: Politico

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Representative Republic
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2014 8:28:51 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah cause why let Democracy and our Representatives do their job, right? Just have the President arbitrarily decide everything.

All hail King Obama!!!

RE: Representative Republic
By bupkus on 7/26/2014 9:13:03 AM , Rating: 2
Lets not forget the association between Congress and Kelsey's nuts.

RE: Representative Republic
By wordsworm on 7/26/14, Rating: 0
RE: Representative Republic
By peterrushkin on 7/26/2014 1:47:41 PM , Rating: 2
Lets see if he fixes the mess at the Southern Borders huh?

RE: Representative Republic
By room200 on 7/26/14, Rating: -1
RE: Representative Republic
By Ringold on 7/26/2014 4:52:32 PM , Rating: 3
So if a law starts to cause an issue from the 40s or 50s, does that mean Obama's not responsible for ignoring the problem then too? Or is just everything Bush's fault and it's a totally unreasonable expectation of Obama to fix issues as they arise under his watch?

RE: Representative Republic
By Dorkyman on 7/26/2014 11:25:31 PM , Rating: 2
No, so some folks everything is Bush's fault.

RE: Representative Republic
By GotThumbs on 7/28/2014 9:05:10 AM , Rating: 2

The Executive Order Obama signed that effectively removed Lady Justices blind fold and where Obama signed orders to HALT the deportation of those who came to the United States when they were young, those who care for children and those who haven't committed crimes. He's also started to allow some relatives of U.S. service members living here illegally to stay.

You not supposed to pick and choose how US law applies to one group and apply it differently to another. Obama has done that.

Whether someone committed a crime, such as theft, battery, or murder at some point in their life....You shouldn't simply overlook that fact, because of their age at the time or if they have a relative in the military.

Breaking the still breaking the law. Justice has to remain blind, and due process must be adhered order to maintain order in a civil society. It may not be perfect, but it's far better than any other nation on this planet IMO.

Obama is creating division within this nation and this is the beginning of a much bigger situation.

You better be ready to protect what you have from the president and others grabby hands. It's the people that want what you have and think you OWE them that are the biggest fans of Obama IMO. How else could people (like the Poll worker in Ohio) justify KNOWINGLY breaking the law by voting more than once in the last election.

~Best wishes keeping what you earned.

RE: Representative Republic
By Just Tom on 7/27/2014 11:55:04 AM , Rating: 2
Funny, Bush signed the law years ago and now it is a problem? Or is it because Obama made an executive decision not to deport children?

RE: Representative Republic
By GotThumbs on 7/28/2014 9:13:55 AM , Rating: 2
TO NOT deport individuals guilty of breaking the law.

You can split hairs by looking at their age, but Lady Justice should remain blind if we are to be TRULY fair in applying justice and US Laws to EVERYONE equally.

It's clear to other 3rd world nations now that USING children at get into the US and then knowing the older family members will be welcomed in, works to get around US Law.

You really don't think people aren't USING that knowledge against the US?????? Your lying to yourself if you do.

When a society fails to follow the letter of the law and start applying it differently to different people...You inject prejudice into the system/society. Obama has done just that and is fanning the flames.

~Best wishes keeping what you earned, because Obama want's YOU and ME and every other REAL Tax payer to foot the bill.

RE: Representative Republic
By wordsworm on 7/26/14, Rating: -1
RE: Representative Republic
By Ringold on 7/26/2014 4:58:48 PM , Rating: 2
That'd be pretty easy, actually. All the FAA would need to do is require them to have some of the same functionality that they already plan for aircraft, specifically transponders that transmit a whole slew of data about themselves, their position, etc. Maintain a link to the relevant companies for the purpose of tracking, and any such fake drones would flag on a controllers radar screen. That technology exists today, and has existed for at least a decade.

IF the FAA is smart, anyway. They've proven, time and again, over the decades to be captured by congressional self-interest and the interest of the airlines. And, like most agencies, something that should cost 50 million to roll out over a year takes several billion and a decade. So who knows.

RE: Representative Republic
By wordsworm on 7/26/2014 6:14:26 PM , Rating: 2
An airplane generally flies above 50 feet. Drones on the other hand don't have to. Good luck to the FAA on enforcing those rules.

RE: Representative Republic
By Schrag4 on 7/28/2014 2:07:31 PM , Rating: 2
Quite frankly, I think there are a lot of Americans who enjoy hunting illegal aliens for sport.

Ok, obviously you're either a troll or you're high. I must have missed the news story where illegals have been hunted for sport. Your wording suggests that it has already happened, and is happening often. I guarantee the media would put that story front and center for a month straight, as it would push 2 or more of their agendas at the same time.

That said, I think the real problem was the war on drugs. America has been paying a lot of money for drugs and taxes on weapons to fight drugs. It's unfortunate that so many Mexicans have suffered and died because of this war. (I also feel sympathy for the millions of affected Americans).

I'll break from the conservative base to agree with you on this, though. It's hard to argue that the cartels would still fight over turf in Mexico if there was no MASSIVE black market here in the states.

RE: Representative Republic
By Ringold on 7/26/2014 5:02:44 PM , Rating: 2
Obama is making a move to protect people's right to privacy from corporate spying, using the fastest means possible.

That's rich. Corporate spying generally isn't what people have been upset about the last year or two. Nice try to dodge, though.

And of course as quickly as possible. There's an election in 4 months and his poll numbers are atrocious, and he's worried they'll lose the Senate. There's no time to do things the proper way, ie, introduce a bill in the House and Senate, debate it, and pass it as a normal law. The processes of a constitutional republic are too slow for a man like him, in his position.

RE: Representative Republic
By wordsworm on 7/27/2014 1:50:49 AM , Rating: 2
You're missing the point: there are licenses being granted to corporations for a new technology. The people who give out these licenses are appointed, not elected. I would not be looking forward to all the buzzing that will come with drones. At the very least, he could prevent companies from using combustion engines on the drones, and force them to use green technologies.

RE: Representative Republic
By callmeizzy on 7/26/2014 6:28:15 PM , Rating: 3
Obama has fixed nothing. If he has fixed so many things how about naming 3.

RE: Representative Republic
By room200 on 7/27/2014 5:50:03 PM , Rating: 1
1. Despite what Faux News tells you, nobody wants to get rid of the ACA (including republicans).

2. Tarp, which save the country from financial ruin.

3. Ended the war in Iraq

3. Eliminated Osama Bin laden

4. New START treaty.

5. Expanded stem cell research.

6. Repealed "Don't ask don't tell"

Want more?

RE: Representative Republic
By callmeizzy on 7/27/2014 6:22:57 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, you really are delusional.

1) ACA is a train wreck. The parts that everyone wants to keep are the ones the Republicans argued for. The parts everyone wants to dump are Obama's brain child.

2) TARP is one you can actually blame Bush for. But I guess you can give him credit since you think it saved anyone but the big banks.

3) Yeah, Iraq is just a great place now. You should vacation there.

4)Ok, he did what anyone would do.

5)May want to check Bush on that one too.

6) BFD

So as usual, a Liberal has no idea what they are talking about. Nice work. LMAO

RE: Representative Republic
By Nfarce on 7/27/2014 7:12:45 PM , Rating: 2
Typical derangement of an PMSNBC, DNCNN, New York Slimes and Huff & Puffpost reading Obama supporter.

Record high number of households in poverty; record high number of households on food stamps; record high number of college graduates moving back home due to not being able to find jobs; record amount of long term and permanently out of the workforce; record growth of the deficit; soaring food prices; soaring energy prices; Obamacare's disastrous cost to Americans; global instability we haven't seen since the days of that other failed Democrat "hands off" president, Carter; an explosion of illegal immigration of epic proportion due to running his mouth about amnesty; not one but TWO credit down grades; lowest GDP growth rate in a given year, also since that other failed Democrat president Carter's term (2012).

But you delusional liberal 'Bamabots keep lying to yourselves like Baghdad Bob did to his people saying there was no US troop presence while the US tanks were rolling in the back ground. We aren't buying your lies either.

RE: Representative Republic
By Chaser on 7/28/2014 2:01:07 AM , Rating: 2
Obama has fixed a lot of what was wrong with America. It's a shame Americans don't even have a chance at reelecting him.
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”

Yeah so many voters are thrilled like you are.

RE: Representative Republic
By Reclaimer77 on 7/28/2014 2:45:06 PM , Rating: 2
You left out the biggest lie of all

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."

Straight up to your face LIES.

RE: Representative Republic
By Chaser on 7/28/2014 4:53:56 PM , Rating: 2
You're right. Thanks.

RE: Representative Republic
By Moishe on 7/30/2014 8:17:10 PM , Rating: 2
The FAA has a job to make rules over very specific things.

The President cannot just do whatever the F&@S8k he wants whenever he wants to. If your only litmus test is "to protect us" then you're not holding anyone's feet to the fire. You'll rubberstamp any damn thing as long as you feel safer. If you want to live under a dictator, go find an existing one and leave the rest of us alone.

The whole concept of one man making rules is quite literally defined as a DICTATOR... and it's 100% anti-american.

The sad thing is that the checks and balances we have put in place are failing. The idiots on both sides of the aisle are too shortsighted to see that this will bite them in the butt later on. So instead of doing their job, they're allowing illegal activity in the highest offices in the land.

RE: Representative Republic
By room200 on 7/26/2014 3:05:04 PM , Rating: 2
So which of the other president's executive orders did you oppose? I can tell you it was ZERO. You don't even know of any before "Googling" it.

Executive orders by presidents:

Abraham Lincoln 48
Ulysses S. Grant 217
Theodore Roosevelt 1,081
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484
Ronald Reagan 381
Bill Clinton 364
George W. Bush 291
Barack Obama 182

RE: Representative Republic
By wordsworm on 7/26/2014 3:22:22 PM , Rating: 2
The irony is that Obama's looking at protecting individual privacy here, and he's upset that it's coming from a black man, a Democrat, and a liberal.

RE: Representative Republic
By Ringold on 7/26/2014 5:04:20 PM , Rating: 2
If he's interested in individual privacy, why does he still have his attack dog Holder going after Snowden?

I think you're just bitter your guys presidency is unraveling.

RE: Representative Republic
By wordsworm on 7/26/2014 6:08:09 PM , Rating: 2
What does privacy have to do with Snowden?

RE: Representative Republic
By Ahnilated on 7/28/2014 9:45:18 AM , Rating: 2
Are you blind? Why do you think he is hiding out in Russia? Why do you think Obama wants him back here so they can try to illegally hold him in solitary confinement until he breaks? Have you not been living in this country the last year? Snowden busted the Government breaking the law and they want to try to break him to keep their martial law.

RE: Representative Republic
By Moishe on 7/30/2014 8:18:52 PM , Rating: 2
So anyone who disagrees is a racist? Hahaha... same ole crap from you guys.

Maybe the issues matter.

RE: Representative Republic
By Ringold on 7/26/2014 5:20:56 PM , Rating: 2
There's number, and then there is content.

Also, not sure what point you're trying to make. Lincoln was a tyrant who justified his disregard for the constitution on the grounds of the greater good. I'm aware of at least 3 instances where he had "copperhead" newspaper presses tossed in to a river for having an editorial bent that either was critical of his running of the war or sympathetic to the cause of states rights, 1st amendment be damned.

Grant won Lincoln's war, but was also open about his failures, namely condoning Sherman's scorched-earth policies, being a butcher himself, and (something I think he later regretted) using tactics we'd think of as 'zerging' today, to make up for his own tactical and strategic failures -- he knew the North had a large population advantage, so leading lambs to slaughter was fine. Just had to draft more.

You also left out FDR, over 3000. There's a stand-up American patriot! Unless you're Japanese, citizen or not. Then he took all your stuff and put you in prison. Hooray, constitution.

Hopefully that makes the point. There's a difference between total numbers and the acts with which they represent; a big difference between Lincoln and FDR's constitutional lapses and Eisenhower creating a new medal for the Reserves or setting a new seal for NACA.

RE: Representative Republic
By Dorkyman on 7/26/2014 11:35:19 PM , Rating: 1
There's Executive Orders and then there's Executive Orders. You're cheating if you issue EO's that bypass the normal checks and balances mechanism of lawmaking.

Messiah has shown numerous times that he doesn't like to follow the rules. Let's all hope he goes away quietly and doesn't invent some reason to declare himself President for life.

RE: Representative Republic
By room200 on 7/27/2014 5:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
You're going to get Hillary in 2016. LOL I can't wait.

RE: Representative Republic
By Chaser on 7/28/2014 2:03:43 AM , Rating: 2
Lies, feigned ignorance, deflection, misdirection and incompetency are the calling cards of this administration and it's appointees.

RE: Representative Republic
By Moishe on 7/30/2014 8:20:48 PM , Rating: 2

When the president usurps the job of congress, it's wrong and illegal. Otherwise, why even have congress? There is a reason the USA isn't a dictatorship.

What Planet?
By DaveLessnau on 7/26/2014 12:07:08 AM , Rating: 1
I don't know what planet Obama's from, but here in the United States of America on planet Earth, We The People are not bound by a President's Executive Orders. We're bound by laws made by our Representatives. Executive Orders are only binding on Executive Agencies.

RE: What Planet?
By Spuke on 7/26/2014 2:29:46 PM , Rating: 2
Executive Orders are only binding on Executive Agencies.
Yeah, I think there is some confusion here on this. EO's don't apply to us, only the government.

RE: What Planet?
By Dorkyman on 7/26/2014 11:24:04 PM , Rating: 3
Not that Messiah would pay any attention to what the rules are SUPPOSED to be.

Man's a narcissistic wannabe King. What's really scary though is that he was elected. Twice. Doesn't speak well to the common sense of the average voter.

RE: What Planet?
By Morawka on 7/27/2014 2:06:03 AM , Rating: 2
yea but his order is telling the representatives, congressmen, and senators to start making rules and guidelines they should include.

RE: What Planet?
By Just Tom on 7/27/2014 11:49:22 AM , Rating: 3
That is incorrect. Executive orders have the full force of law if they derive from either the power granted to the executive by the Constitution OR stem from an act of Congress. Unfortunately, due to Congress' laziness in writing law the legislature has given the executive vast authority to issue executive orders regarding a myriad of regulations.

RE: What Planet?
By MadMan007 on 7/27/2014 1:31:51 PM , Rating: 2
Means nothing to the Obama haters.

The FAA is part of the Federal Dept of Transportation which is part of the executive branch. Whether FAA/DoT policies are administered as de facto policy or by explicit order, unless they fall outside said agency's jurisdiction they are policy. Recently we've seen the example of FCC policy on net neutrality being outside their jurisdiction by court ruling, this would be the same thing.

By theplaidfad on 7/25/2014 7:56:09 PM , Rating: 2
Come up with fair guidelines that respect every citizens right to privacy. Now apply them to any drone over our airspace, including military.

Pipe dream?

RE: Cool.
By theplaidfad on 7/25/2014 7:56:50 PM , Rating: 2
So important to me, I suppose that my mind made me double post it. Vote one down to hide it. :(

By theplaidfad on 7/25/2014 7:55:13 PM , Rating: 2
Come up with fair guidelines that respect every citizens right to privacy. Now apply them to any drone over our airspace, including military.

Pipe dream?

By nshoe on 7/27/2014 2:37:02 AM , Rating: 2
Meanwhile, the FBI has completed doing a privacy study on it's drone program and subsequently redacted the entire report in the interests of national security...

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