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Steven Anthony "Steve" Ballmer, 58, served 14 years as Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) CEO until late last year when the failure of Windows 8 triggered the board to pressure him into an early retirement.

I. Ballmer Beckons

Asked by The Wall Street Journal whether he would stay on as the director of Microsoft's board, Mr. Ballmer remarked:

It really as much as anything depends on how I see rest of my life playing out.  I get to find some new set of things to be passionate about. I’m going to take some time and really figure it out.

Well apparently it didn't take him long to find at least one new gig that he seems very passionate about.  In a surprising move, Steve Ballmer offered up a massive $2B USD bid to buy the Los Angeles Clippers.

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Steve Ballmer, former CEO of Microsoft [Image Source: You Digital Space]

The payment is a record for an NBA team, grossly eclipsing the $550M USD paid for the Milwaukee Bucks earlier this month.  It is extremely rare for an NBA team with a winning record in the playoffs to be sold, a key reason why the valuation was record setting.  Mr. Sterling's original purchase of the Clippers is far more typical -- wealthy investors buying a struggling team.
 
The massive bid by Mr. Ballmer barely misses setting a record for American professional sports, which belongs to the $2.1B USD paid for the LA Dodgers in 2012.  Some believe Mr. Ballmer seriously overpaid; Forbes valued the franchise at $575M USD.

Clippers at Staples Center
The LA Clippers currently play at the Staples Center. [Image Source: Santa Clara Daily Briefs]

The team spends nearly 2/3rds ($80M USD) of its total revenue ($128M USD) on player, coaching staff, and employee payrolls.  The team has an estimated annual operating profit of $15M USD before tax and debt payments.

II. The Fall of Sterling

The Clippers are currently owned by Donald Sterling, 80, and his estranged wife Rochelle "Shelly" Sterling, whom he married in 1954.  A personal injury trial lawyer turned real estate mogul, Donald Sterling and his wife joined the ranks of National Basketball Association (NBA) owners when he paid $12.5M USD to acquire the struggling franchise back in 1981.  At the time the Clippers played in San Diego.  In 1984 he moved the team to Los Angeles, but the move didn't produce immediate results.  Until 1991 the Clippers failed to have a winning season.

Donald Sterling
Donald Sterling, back in the 1980s [Image Source: AP]

But after moving to the Staples Center during the 1999-2000 season, the Clippers began to drastically improve, eclipsing the Lakers in their current incarnation over the last couple years.  Mr. Sterling clearly coveted the team and relished the role of ownership.

For years he had a strained relationship with the NBA's league office, over various rules violations and over rumors that he was acting as a slum landlord and accusations of racism from former employees, including Hall of Famer Elgin Baylor.

But the NBA always tolerated Mr. Sterling until the event the events of last month. In a rant -- over a picture that she posted to Instagram of her posting with Hall of Famer Earvin "Magic" Johnson, Jr. -- Mr. Sterling is heard saying to his girlfriend:

It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people.  You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want... the little I ask you is ... not to bring them to my games.

Donald Sterling
Donald Sterling (right), with his alleged girlfriend (left) [Image Source: NYPost]

The tapes sparked an immense amount of controversy, and the rest -- as they say -- is history. An NBA investigation culminated with new NBA commissioner Adam Silver calling Mr. Sterling in a short phone call, in which Mr. Sterling admitted that it was his voice in the leaked tapes.

With the LA Clippers bleeding sponsors and with the team's players and coach openly protesting and on the verge of strike, Mr. Silver fined Mr. Sterling the maximum amount possible under the NBA's "constitution" (contract) -- $2.5M USD.  He also delivered a lifetime ban, calling on Mr. Sterling being banned from attending at any NBA game, function, or facility -- an unprecedented punishment against an owner in American professional sports history.

Pressured to save face, the league owners encourage Mr. Sterling to sell.  A provision in the NBA constitution allowed the NBA owners to vote to force a franchise owner to sell if their behavior was extreme enough to damage the league.  A 3/4 vote among owners would be required; it was largely thought that the votes were there to execute the forced sale.

III. Ballmer Draws Comparisons to Allen, Cuban

Mr. Sterling wrote a letter last week saying he would sell the team.  Then in an abrupt about face, he turned around and said he would not sell.  But most believe that Mr. Ballmer's massive bid will be sufficient to convince Mr. Sterling and his wife (who also didn't want to sell her 50 percent stake) to drop their complaints and bow out.

Mr. Sterling is currently the longest-standing owner in the NBA.  If he sells the team, the longest-standing owner will be Indiana Pacers owner Herbert Simon (who bought in 1983).  Like Mr. Sterling, Mr. Simon, 79, is a former real estate magnate.

The
hand picked successor of Microsoft's cofounder and first CEO William Henry "Bill" Gates III, Mr. Ballmer was known for his unnaturally high energy levels, plain speech, and unusual speaking voice which seemed to at times channel the late Chris Farley.  He saw some of Microsoft's historic highs -- Windows XP and Windows 7, for example -- and some of its lows -- Windows Vista, and the latest Windows 8 woes.

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Steve Ballmer loves basketball almost as much as developers. [Image Source: Man.com]

Mr. Ballmer was Microsoft's 30th employee and today holds 333,253,907 shares of Microsoft stock -- roughly a 4.04 percent stake in Microsoft.  At current share prices that stake is worth roughly $13.4B USD.  Forbes' latest Fortune 400 rankings list him as the 21st richest person in the world, with roughly $18B USD in wealth.

He bears some similarities in personality -- from an observer's perspective, at least -- to telecommunications mogul Mark Cuban, who bought the Dallas Mavericks for $285M USD back in 2000.  Here's Mark Cuban fired up:



And here's Mr. Ballmer fired up:


 
Okay, maybe Mr. Ballmer is a little more energetic.
 
Mr. Ballmer and a group of other investors had in Jan. 2013 made an exploratory offer to buy the Sacramento Kings for $500M USD.  The plan was to buy the team and move it to Seattle.  The deal eventually collapsed after other team owners voted not to allow the franchise to move.
 
Mr. Ballmer lives in Hunts Point, Wash.
 
If the fellow owners allow it, Mr. Ballmer will likely attempt to relocate the Clippers -- who currently share the Staples Center building with the LA Lakers -- to Seattle, Wash.  Seattle was home to the Seattle Supersonics from 1967 until 2008, when the team moved to Oklahoma City after a deal for a new publicly funded arena in Seattle fell through.  The Supersonics won a single NBA championship in 1979.
 
Mr. Ballmer's fellow coworker, Microsoft cofounder Paul Allen, also is the principal owner of an NBA team.  He purchases the Portland Trail Blazers in 1988 for $70M USD, having left Microsoft in 1982 to receive cancer treatment.

Sources: The LA Times, USA Today



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Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 10:57:51 AM , Rating: 2
Not only is that horrible asshat Sterling having to sell, but we will keep getting to see Ballmer in the public eye. If anything can be said about him he is very fun to watch.




RE: Great news x2
By tayb on 5/30/2014 11:04:14 AM , Rating: 4
Can you imagine the Clippers against the Mavericks? The antics of the owners might be more enjoyable than the actual game.


RE: Great news x2
By ImEmmittSmith on 5/30/2014 11:13:39 AM , Rating: 2
I'm a Mavs fan and it doesn't take much to set Cuban off. With both owners on the court this should make for a fun show!


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 11:16:22 AM , Rating: 2
Ballmer doesn't even need cheerleaders. He is a one man pep squad... "All in at all times", bursting at the seams. LOL.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/30/14, Rating: -1
RE: Great news x2
By Camikazi on 5/30/2014 5:24:25 PM , Rating: 2
Actually they can just like someone who is skinny can be a lazy fuck.


RE: Great news x2
By Xplorer4x4 on 6/1/2014 4:43:59 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not even an NBA fan but I might even tune in to see this one lol.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/30/14, Rating: 0
RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 11:39:55 AM , Rating: 3
Are you really going to defend this racist f$%khead? Whatever. I wont even get into that...

I will just say this. The NBA is a private organization and they are free to accept and exclude anyone they want and I personally am glad about it. Now we get to see more Ballmer. I hope hte monkey dance makes a courtside comeback. I LOVE THIS TEAM>>> WHOOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/30/14, Rating: -1
RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 11:58:55 AM , Rating: 2
"Yeah clearly I'm defending racists"

I am not for recording and exploiting people on thier private words, but come one... In this case it's not that simple. It's not one simple conversation. Anyone and everyone knows this guy is that way and it's been shoved under the rug for years because he is rich and litigious. Now the NBA (as I mentioned a private organization) wants him out. Good. It's not the govt. doing it, it's not "Freedom of speech" as the NBA as a private organization is using their right to free speech to exclude people that don't fit in their org. I cant believe anyone would publicly defend this asshat. You should really just stop now.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/30/14, Rating: -1
RE: Great news x2
By Labotomizer on 5/30/2014 12:13:21 PM , Rating: 3
Legally nothing can be done against him is Retro's point. The government couldn't use the recording to do anything. However, a private organization is completely free to remove someone like this at their discretion.

Freedom of speech doesn't equate to freedom from repercussions when you say something stupid. At least not on a private and public level. It just means he didn't do anything illegal.

If the government were stepping in and making the NBA force him out that would be a different story altogether. And given the NBA's brand, keeping Sterling involved would cause severe monetary issues next season.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 1:22:41 PM , Rating: 2
"Legally nothing can be done against him is Retro's point. The government couldn't use the recording to do anything. However, a private organization is completely free to remove someone like this at their discretion."

Exactly... It's not a "Freedom of speech" type issue. Nor is it an "illegal recording" issue (although that might be a separate issue in itself). How it happened wasn't what was being discussed. It boils down to one thing. The NBA is free to force him out of their private organization. Personally I agree with the NBA.

Of course Stiviano is a crummy person... If she wasnt, she wouldn't be anywhere near Sterling. Duh. But that is a different story.


RE: Great news x2
By dxf2891 on 6/5/2014 3:29:43 PM , Rating: 2
Elgin Baylor filed a lawsuit stating that Donald Sterling prohibited him from advancing in the Clippers organization for no other reason than his age and race. But Sterling convinced others he was not a racist (which is the US justice system at work). Now, regardless of HOW you find out, you now know that one of the teams in your organization is headed by a racist and 80% if the talent is the race that he spouted out against, the NBA would be suicidal to ignore that fact. They'd have lawsuits three times a day and twice on Sundays. Sterling bought the team knowing that his owenership was indemnified by a moral turpitude clause. Regardless if his tirade was private it or not, the fact that he stated those opinions to another person proves that he is in fact racist, which is one of those clauses in the ownership contract (it also includes sexism, ageism and any other discriminatory practice). But hey, he cleared $2 Billion for a $12 Million investment. I don't feel sorry for him at all.


RE: Great news x2
By tayb on 5/30/2014 12:16:10 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
The guy was a racist, so that makes it okay to set him up, record him without his knowledge, and broadcast it to the world without his consent. Clearly anyone that might have some scruples about this is "defending racism"....


This is not a court of law where wiretapping and recording consent laws come into play. This is the court of public opinion. His remarks were made public. How they came to be public is of little concern to the discussion at hand.

You aren't bringing up though provoking angles. You think it is unfair that a man is forced to sell his team because of something he said in private. This isn't thought provoking. There are no laws in place to govern the reaction from the public.


RE: Great news x2
By Labotomizer on 5/30/2014 12:17:38 PM , Rating: 2
However she could be in trouble for illegally recording him. I'm not familiar with state laws there so I can't say.


RE: Great news x2
By Flunk on 5/30/2014 12:49:12 PM , Rating: 3
He was actually recording himself, they both knew.


RE: Great news x2
By Spuke on 6/4/2014 9:32:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
He was actually recording himself, they both knew.
Really? Wow, what a dumbass.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 12:22:54 PM , Rating: 2
"You know what, maybe I just need to find a place with a bit of a higher average IQ among it's members. I try to bring up thought-provoking angles, or get people to think about an issue a different way, and it always gets boiled down to some mundane accusation or juvenile out-of-context street brawl."

Dood, we all get that. You dont need to insult the intelligence of people that disagree. It really lessens your argument and takes away from the point you are trying to make. But lets touch on what you are trying to talk about.

"The guy was a racist, so that makes it okay to set him up, record him without his knowledge, and broadcast it to the world without his consent. "

Of course that is a low move, and no-one is jumping up and down cheering for Stiviano, it was a crap move... But it was done and it did out him and we cant pretend not to know, and neither can the NBA. Again, a private organization.

Lets try a different scenario. Let's say your NC Senator was secretly a liberal, but publicly no-one knew it. He acted conservative to get the votes and get elected, but really wasnt... Many people that knew him knew that, but publicly it was a secret. Then someone recorded a private conversation where he was praising Castro , Chavez, Obama and Stalin and wishing we could be more socialist.... And they released that tape to the press. Was it a crappy move YES. Are you going to pretend not to be aware of what you have heard and vote for him again?

- You see what I did there? ;)


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/30/14, Rating: 0
RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 2:27:36 PM , Rating: 2
No worries. I could have worded things better, but in my defense, you did call me "Thought Police". I admit, on issues like this I am intolerant of the intolerant. I have no time, patience or sympathy for anyone like Sterling, regardless of how he got there, he is there.

"BAM! In comes Reclaimer to save the day by making himself the punching bag :)"

You do have a way about you. LOL


RE: Great news x2
By tayb on 5/30/2014 11:49:35 AM , Rating: 2
He is being forced to sell his business for an incredible profit due to his racism being outed publicly. His removal as an owner is within the NBA constitution and does not violate any of his civil liberties.

In America you are free to be an ignorant racist but you are not free from the consequences. In this case the NBA, an organization filled predominantly will black people, decided a racist owner wasn't tolerable and removed him.

The first amendment protects your right to speak freely from the government. You still have to face the public, which is what happened to Donald Sterling.

In the end the NBA is no place for a white supremacist.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 12:03:34 PM , Rating: 2
"In America you are free to be an ignorant racist but you are not free from the consequences. In this case the NBA, an organization filled predominantly will black people, decided a racist owner wasn't tolerable and removed him."

Exactly and thank you...

At least we are making progress. Pigs like this are still out there, but in the 1950's in alot of states a black man and a white woman walking down the street holding hands romantically would be publicly flogged. Now at least the racist pig is the one that is publicly flogged. This also shows them, if you are a backward assed narrow minded racist POS you have better STFU about it and keep it to your damn self... LOL.


RE: Great news x2
By TSS on 5/30/2014 7:59:17 PM , Rating: 1
I never thought i'd say this but... for once, i actually agree with reclaimer.

quote:
In America you are free to be an ignorant racist

quote:
better STFU about it and keep it to your damn self


Didn't he do exactly that? The comments where uttered in private. From his own statement i gather he doesn't wanna associate with black people personally, though having no problem if his girlfriend does (outside of the games).

If you belive publicly flogging a racist is any progress since publicly flogging a interacial couple you're gravely mistaken. In fact it shows we've made no progress at all - it only shows that we've moved the flogging to a different target. And it's starting to escalate in the wrong direction, too.

Are there any type of people you don't like? Personally i don't like to associate much with construction workers or othopedic doctors. Simply out of personal experiences. Should i be flogged publically for that? Should i be *forced* to not only associate with everybody, but like them too, on penalty of social excommunication or worse?

It's not wrong to dislike people for any reason, that's just personal. When it starts affecting behaviour, then it becomes a problem. The guy simply didn't want his girlfriends oppinion to affect her behaviour around him. I mean he not only bought a struggling team but kept it and helped it move towards the top, if that's not the example of a racist not letting an opinion affect his actions (too much anyway) i don't know what is. Also that girlfriend of his doesn't look 100% caucasian more like half asian. While he doesn't mind her sleeping with black people. Not bad for somebody who grew up in a time where racism was entirely normal. This guy already was 16 during the 1950 you speak of.

If one has to awnser to the public that public should also show a degree of understanding. Not work off mob mentality. Like i said, otherwise no progress has been made at all, only the victem has changed.


RE: Great news x2
By M'n'M on 5/31/2014 12:26:48 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
... for once, i actually agree with Reclaimer.

As will I. This guy may just be a raving racist but until his thoughts manifest themselves into extra-legal actions I don't see why he's being singled out. Are we outlawing "private" (read no blacks) golf clubs ?

The NBA may have the power, via a "morals" clause in the contract w/Sterling, but I have to wonder what precedent it sets. Will the next owner be "guilty" of being a moronic Early Earther ? And by doing so embarrass or otherwise cause less profit to the NBA ? Or will he/she perhaps be accused of being a homosexual ... err wait, that was a 1950's "morals" clause. There are social sanctions and there are legal ones and this more properly belongs in the former, despite whatever legal grounding it may have.

The end result of this action won't be less racists, but more closet racists. Have we really degraded society where we are willing to punish people for their thoughts rather than their actions ? The answer to "bad" speech is more "proper" speech. Let Sterling out himself as a racist. Maybe he'll find he has less "friends" than before. That's fine. I find it scary that we're now firing people, vs ostracizing them, for beliefs society finds disgusting.

The court of public opinion is very fickle. Do you want it judging you ?


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/31/2014 7:34:30 AM , Rating: 2
Why do people have to open with that every time they agree with me? I mean..come on. It's like you're afraid if you don't begin with an obligatory "for once I agree with you" disclaimer, you'll be lynched or something...

Anyway, THANK YOU! It was so depressing yesterday that nobody seemed to get my point. I was making a statement about an issue far bigger than Sterling. But nobody seemed to get that but you and M'n'M!

quote:
If you belive publicly flogging a racist is any progress since publicly flogging a interacial couple you're gravely mistaken. In fact it shows we've made no progress at all - it only shows that we've moved the flogging to a different target. And it's starting to escalate in the wrong direction, too.


You nailed it, 100%. Tolerance isn't only accepting the popular group-think position on things. Yet our society has transformed tolerance into "think like us, or we'll persecute you!!!". That's the OPPOSITE of tolerance.


RE: Great news x2
By Dorkyman on 6/2/2014 11:16:17 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone with a brain can see how society is rapidly morphing into a modern-day tyranny. Just look at how a couple of highly-accomplished commencement speakers were hounded by rabid college creeps into backing out. Colleges traditionally are supposed to represent the very epitome of free speech. Not any more. Not in Obama's America. I bring the Fool into this because he could have, at any time, chastised the children for their tantrums. But he didn't.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/31/2014 9:10:46 AM , Rating: 2
I don't disagree with what you, M&M and Reclaimer are saying on concept, we are just not talking the same point. Yes, it sucks the way it happened and yes recording conversations to be used against someone is utter crap.

With that said, the NBA didn't do it. The NBA didn't make the recording nor did they try to "entrap" Sterling in any way. Sterling's GF did that all on her own and released it to the press. Also the NBA is a private organization and they have the right to include or exclude anyone they want.

So... Let me pose this question to the 3 of you. What should the NBA have done if not exclude him from their organization once it became publicly known that he was a raging racist (not just by the recording, but the multitudes of people that spoke out afterward and told their own stories of his racist antics). What should they have done?


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/31/14, Rating: 0
RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/31/2014 12:02:46 PM , Rating: 2
"Slap him with a fine and a limited suspension, send him to "sensitivity training" or whatever that BS is called today, and move on. The guy is NOT Hitler."

And what do you think the NBA players reaction to that little slap on the hand would be? It would be extremely disruptive.

"Who said they did? Not sure why you're using quotes, I never said that."

No-one, I was just pointing out it wasn't an NBA launched plot, putting that up against my question of what are they supposed to do now that its out by no fault of their own.

"And how do I know he's a "raging racist"? See this is what I mean with the whole Thought Police thing. "

Uh... It wasn't the recording, it was the loads of players and other people involved that came out afterward telling their stories. Have you not turned on the radio, read the news or anything on this subject for the past few weeks? Come on.


RE: Great news x2
By Spuke on 6/4/2014 9:50:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It wasn't the recording, it was the loads of players and other people involved that came out afterward telling their stories.
Rec, he's got a history of this behavior and people let it slide cause he was sue happy. The recording was just an opportunity for those looking to take him down IMO. Does it suck for him to have his personal sh!t put in public like that? Yep! Do I care? Nope!


RE: Great news x2
By Mint on 5/31/2014 2:03:48 PM , Rating: 2
Sensitivity training will not repair the damage he has done to the reputation of the league. Getting rid of him will.

What he said is MUCH worse than using the n-word. He fundamentally stereotypes African Americans and views them as inferior, and confirmed it with his public interview.

Evicting a man while letting him get 100x his investment and 3x its most recent valuation is not treating him like Hitler, you f***wit.

And yes, it's much more like a condo owner getting evicted than someone being forced to lose their business. If you don't follow the rules, your ownership amounts to nothing, whether you're part of a homeowner association or the National Basketball Association.

The Clippers are worth next to nothing without the other 29 teams to play against. It's not a piece of land or intellectual property. It is a membership that, upon purchase, Sterling agreed that he could be booted out of if the other members voted with a 75% majority to do so.

So stop being a drama queen. There's no rights being infringed upon. Even the recording was his own doing. She was tasked to be his archivist, among other things.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/31/2014 3:59:36 PM , Rating: 2
"Sensitivity training will not repair the damage he has done to the reputation of the league. Getting rid of him will."

Can you imagine the players reactions if they just fined him and made him go to sensitivity training? The league would be in an uproar. Right or wrong, like it or not the NBA had to oust him.


RE: Great news x2
By Mint on 6/1/2014 1:52:36 AM , Rating: 2
I actually empathize with Sterling a bit. As a grad student, I spent many years renting a room from an 80+ year old who liked Obama and spent a lot of time with a black friend, has a good heart and is generally nice, but when he watches sports alone, he hurls all sorts of racial epithets. A guy gets a turnover, and he says, "go back to picking cotton".

With him and Sterling alike, you can see that it's almost a reflex from the society they grew up in. You can see the dissonance Sterling goes through, saying he loves black people while at the same time denigrating them. He says to her, "Don't you understand?" because we just can't relate to the bigotry he grew up around.

But yeah, in the end none of this matters. He had to go.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 6/1/2014 8:28:12 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I actually empathize with Sterling a bit.


How in the hell can you say this RIGHT after you just read me the riot act for no reason?

F'ing troll lol.


RE: Great news x2
By Mint on 6/10/2014 6:00:50 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry you're too f'ing stupid to follow anything beyond a 2nd grade reading level. Lots of things in life are confusing to you.

If I say I empathize with someone that has difficulty following the law, that doesn't mean I think he should be exempt from it. If you sign a contract that says you lose membership if other members want you out due to conduct, then you're held to it.


RE: Great news x2
By Dorkyman on 6/2/2014 11:20:21 PM , Rating: 2
I'm patiently waiting for the league to truly represent America by insisting on no more than 12% of the players be black. I mean, come on, it's only fair.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 6/4/2014 1:56:56 PM , Rating: 2
lol agree.

Also bring back the Larry Bird short shorts era! lmao...


RE: Great news x2
By Spuke on 6/4/2014 10:01:53 PM , Rating: 2
I'm black and I'd protest the league for that! Hey! How about some t-shirts with a circle and slash through Jesse Jackson's pic. I mean, doesn't he represent ALL us black people? Instead of forcing him out and fining him, I think Stirling should kiss Shaq's bare, unwashed ass as an apology.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 6/1/2014 8:25:38 AM , Rating: 2
You're being the drama queen here, standing on a soapbox and cursing people. Chill the F out.

Mint, isn't there an electric car somewhere you need to go inseminate?


RE: Great news x2
By M'n'M on 6/1/2014 10:49:35 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
So... Let me pose this question to the 3 of you. What should the NBA have done if not exclude him from their organization once it became publicly known that he was a raging racist (not just by the recording, but the multitudes of people that spoke out afterward and told their own stories of his racist antics).

Stop just short of the forced sale. Put out the carefully worded statement that Sterlings viewpoints are his own and most certainly not that of the NBA, but as an American he has his 1'st Amendment rights, not matter how wrong we think his expressed views are. Also reserve the power to take further action should Sterling actually harm the NBA.

And by the latter I mean lost of sales, etc. It would be one thing if he couldn't hire the talent needed or people stopped attending his games and his team lost revenue as a result. That's perfectly well and good and perhaps might have prompted him to get out. I don't know if the NBA has a revenue sharing program but if they do, then his lost $$ are also the NBA's lost $$ and that would be actionable.

There's something beyond PC run amok here that troubles me. I see all manner of people saying the NBA has to oust him otherwise they are tarnished. I don't get that. If there's one thing "we" are supposed to have learned it's to judge people as the individuals they actually are. Why any thinking person would assume that Sterling's viewpoints, on anything, are somehow reflective of those of the NBA is a wonder to me. This is after all, a business organization, and not some fraternal one.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/30/2014 12:10:44 PM , Rating: 2
And I don't disagree with any of that. I agree 100%. That has NOTHING to do with my opening statement...

Look just forget it, you guys obviously are just way too pre-programmed by society to even have this discussion.


RE: Great news x2
By Labotomizer on 5/30/2014 12:16:34 PM , Rating: 2
I never read that you were defending him either... Just that you disagreed with a private, and likely illegal based on state laws, recording was used to do this.

On the flip side, the team at least doubled in value thanks to this. So he made an extra billion dollars on the team. If I thought someone would pay me two billion for something because I was a racist I would go on an awful, awful tirade.


RE: Great news x2
By Reclaimer77 on 5/30/2014 2:09:05 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I never read that you were defending him either... Just that you disagreed with a private, and likely illegal based on state laws, recording was used to do this


Thank you!

I'm honestly surprised at the responses here. Every day on Daily Tech privacy comes up! So Google is "evil" for using your data, but illegally violate someone's privacy to force him out of his job, that's okay?

And there's no "likely" about it, recording someone without their consent is illegal in California. For the NBA to use this recording is a clear violation of his Constitutional right under California law.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 2:31:53 PM , Rating: 2
"And there's no "likely" about it, recording someone without their consent is illegal in California. For the NBA to use this recording is a clear violation of his Constitutional right under California law."

I don't think anyone disagrees that the recording was not kosher, but the NBA isn't "using" it In any way. It's not a court case, it's a private org. It was released publicly and the NBA is merely reacting to it's content. That is all that was being said.


RE: Great news x2
By Arsynic on 5/30/2014 12:24:28 PM , Rating: 2
Sterling is getting $2 billion. I don't feel sorry for him.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 2:34:27 PM , Rating: 2
Paid 12 million for it years ago... Most experts were saying it should be worth 1-1.2 billion max... Gets 2 billion due to the increased visibility from the controversy. NOt a bad deal at all for him.

Hell, I would say anything you want me to say about any race for a cool million, much less a billion. LOL


RE: Great news x2
By wordsworm on 5/30/2014 2:57:06 PM , Rating: 2
Why the hell would a racist buy a basketball team considering it's a sport dominated by black men? He should have gone with hockey.


RE: Great news x2
By Camikazi on 5/30/2014 5:27:46 PM , Rating: 2
You don't have to like people to want to make money from them.


RE: Great news x2
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 6:06:50 PM , Rating: 2
I heard an interview last week with one of his ex players... He was describing a weird scene where Sterling walked through the locker room before a game showing the team of to one of his fiends. He touched a player on the shoulder and say to his friend "Look at the muscle tone on this buck" "This one can really jump"... As if he was showing off a prize winning race horses. He sees them as property. Sick man, really sick.


You sure about that?
By formulav8 on 5/30/2014 10:46:11 AM , Rating: 3
"Donald Sterling (left), with his alleged girlfriend (right)"

You sure the picture is labeled correctly in 1 of those pictures above? :)




RE: You sure about that?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/30/2014 10:52:29 AM , Rating: 2
Haha, **Fixed** :)

That begin said, the things people will do for money...


RE: You sure about that?
By JasonMick (blog) on 5/30/2014 12:36:38 PM , Rating: 1
Having followed Sterling's exploits, I can say the caption was probably right... he probably had another gf out of frame to the right... :)


Microsoft is such a cash cow
By tayb on 5/30/2014 10:56:43 AM , Rating: 2
Paul Allen owns the Seahawks, Bill Gates could probably purchase every single NBA and NFL team, and now Ballmer is buying the Clippers for a mere 10% of his fortune.

Let's start guessing with MLB, NFL, or NBA the next CEO of Microsoft will buy in 2025?




RE: Microsoft is such a cash cow
By ilt24 on 5/30/2014 3:04:56 PM , Rating: 2
Along with the Seahawks, Paul Allen owns the Portland Trailblazers and Seattle's MLS team.


By kilkennycat on 5/31/2014 6:21:44 PM , Rating: 2
Not quite complete.

Paul Allen owns the Portland Trailblazers (who got to the 2nd round of the 2014 NBA playoffs after ~ 10 years of absence from the playoffs) and is part of the ownership of MLS Seattle Sounders. However, he also owns the NFL's Seattle Seahawks, who have just won the Superbowl and is probably now the most valuable of his "sports trophies".


Championships! Championships! Championships!
By Arsynic on 5/30/2014 12:22:42 PM , Rating: 2
Clippers need a locker room cam for this guy!




By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 5:16:45 PM , Rating: 3
I see it more like - "We need to work on the fundamentals... fundamentals fundamentals fundamentals fundamentals


Grossly overpaid
By zephyrprime on 5/30/2014 11:54:56 AM , Rating: 2
So basically he paid a P/E (price to earnings) or 166. Absolutely horrible! I guess the price is moderated somewhat by revenue from merchandise sales but even so, the wallstreet journal's estimate of fair value is probably correct. I cannot see how a distressed seller (Sterling) managed to get such a high price. Distressed owners usually get a poor price. WTF? Ballmer hugely overpaid.




RE: Grossly overpaid
By Schrag4 on 6/2/2014 1:16:29 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe you could say that a society gnashing its teeth about racism was the motivated buyer. It probably didn't go down this way, but perhaps Sterling was extremely cunning to let that comment slip, or perhaps the GF was in on it too. It netted him an extra billion dollars or so, after all.


Fail?
By damianrobertjones on 5/30/2014 2:03:54 PM , Rating: 1
"the failure of Windows 8"

Yeah I'm not seeing that, sorry.




RE: Fail?
By retrospooty on 5/30/2014 4:01:11 PM , Rating: 1
The one where most everyone hates it... The one where it's adoption rate is far slower than its predecessors. The one that has been all over the internet with people (even die hard MS fans) complaining about it since day one... Surely you have heard of it.


RE: Fail?
By GotThumbs on 6/6/2014 10:48:48 AM , Rating: 2
Hates? That's a pretty strong word for an OS.

More likely, they just don't understand it and many people fear things they don't understand.


picture
By hughlle on 5/30/2014 10:43:13 AM , Rating: 3
Sterling is questionably hot, not so sure about "his" "girlfriend" though.




Seattle
By ATC on 5/30/2014 11:29:58 AM , Rating: 2
I hope he'd be able to move them to Seattle. Selfishly speaking, as a western Canadian I'd love to be able to drive down and catch an NBA game again. Since the Vancouver Grizzlies left, Seattle was our closest city with a team until 2008 when they moved to OKC.




By rika13 on 5/30/2014 11:34:03 AM , Rating: 2
I can see Blamer having a dude in a Clippy suit dunking during halftime, hire a badass dream team then dress them hideous uniforms, or hide something else badass with some irritating, in your face crap.




Clippers NOT moving
By cditty on 5/30/2014 4:17:36 PM , Rating: 2
You may want to alter that article. He has already committed to keep the team in LA, because that is the market in which it can generate revenue. The other 29 owners will not allow that team to move and Steve knows that, so he came out of the gate with that information.




It's a stupid title but I love it
By ET on 6/1/2014 2:59:15 AM , Rating: 2
Long live clippy.




The thing about privacy....
By dxf2891 on 6/5/2014 3:41:59 PM , Rating: 2
I keep hearing that Sterling said these things "in private." Unless he said them to a priest, a therapist or a doctor, they were not private. If I shoot off my mouth and tell people that I had my wife, Lacey Peterson, murdered even though legally she is only considered "missing," I can't go to court and say, "Hey! That was a private conversation!" Or if I, Bernard Madoff, scammed a bunch of people with dubious financial practices and tells someone, again, I can't go to court and say, "Hey! That's my money. They gave it to me and everything I told that guy/gal was a during a private conversation." When we choose to utter our deepest, darkest secrets out loud, they are no longer private.




BFD.
By GotThumbs on 6/6/2014 10:44:37 AM , Rating: 2
Sterling made out like a bandit on this one IMO.

The PC crowed focused on the wrong thing, but I'm not surpised. Todays public simply react without thinking, because they are too lazy to look at the big picture.

In a society that continues to group it's citizens by race and gender, how can you EVER expect race to be a non-issue? You can't.

Every PC wanabe is quick to trample on non-People of color (and even some POC) who make a stupid/ignornace statment and act as if its the end of the world.

Too many distractions to what's really a problem for this nation.

NBA owner making a statement to his mistress is the LEAST of what this nations concerns should be, yet it's a great (desired) distraction for the nations current Administration. Anything to to keep people from looking at the nations current leadership screw-ups such as negotiating with terrorists.

Too many fools focused on NBA IMO.

I guess it could be worse, but I hesitate to ponder how.

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