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Citroen C-Cactus Concept
Citroen combines diesel engine with electric motor for ultimate hybrid economy

When talk turns to hybrids, the argument for a diesel engine rather than hybrid power is often raised. Modern diesel engines are capable of fuel economy near or better than some gasoline hybrid cars on the market.

It would seem that the ultimate hybrid system would be a combination of a diesel engine and an electric motor. This is exactly what Citroen has plans on making. Citroen introduced the C-Cactus concept car in 2007 featuring an odd design and a diesel/electric hybrid powertrain.

Citroen announced this month that it intends to produce a version of the C-Cactus concept car. The hybrid powertrain isn’t the only thing green about the vehicle. Citroen has greatly reduced the number of components needed to make the vehicle, slashing construction costs and environmental impact from the manufacturing process.

The production version of the C-Cactus will use the HYmotion2 hybrid system featuring a 1-liter diesel engine paired with an electric motor. The French automaker says that the hybrid system could provide up to 100 miles per gallon.

Another option for the production car is an all-electric version that would have a goal of achieving 100 miles of driving range at a 70 MPH top speed. Images of the C-Cactus are from the concept car, and as such, you can bet that the design and interior will be toned down significantly.

One thing you can count on for sure is that the car will never see roads in the United States. The Citroen brand is not sold in America.

If Citroen can hit that 100 MPG  number, it will be impressive. The Honda Insight is one of the most fuel frugal cars American's will be able to purchase in the coming years.



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Weird looking bug car
By psychobriggsy on 10/10/2008 11:57:54 AM , Rating: 2
I guess this is using Imperial gallons however, not your puny US gallons ;)

Might be a nice car for inner-city driving, especially if it is exempt from charges like the congestion charge in London.




RE: Weird looking bug car
By MrPickins on 10/10/2008 12:31:16 PM , Rating: 2
If this is using imperial gallons, then it's about 83 mi/US-gal. Since energy density of diesel is ~10% higher than that of gasoline then the efficiency of the car might be viewed as ~75 mi/US-gal of gasoline. Not shabby by any means, but not that much more than the Honda referenced in the article.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By Oregonian2 on 10/10/2008 1:16:38 PM , Rating: 2
Also, one was referenced as "about 70mpg" and the other "up to 100 mpg", slight phrase difference can be significant sometimes. :-)


RE: Weird looking bug car
By DeepBlue1975 on 10/10/2008 4:55:55 PM , Rating: 4
This all happens because of the silly measurement units used in both the USA and the UK, that are not only different from what the rest of the world uses, but also incompatible between themselves in a couple of cases like this (gallons).
And not to talk about the questionable practicality of making serious calculations using those units.

Why won't the USA and the UK go metric once and for all?
Even in the USA metric units are used many times in scientific calculations, as those other ones are a joke.

1 feet = 12 inches = 34.27 navigator noses... come on... :D

Liters and meters rule! :D


RE: Weird looking bug car
By Jack Ripoff on 10/10/2008 6:20:07 PM , Rating: 3
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Liters and meters rule! :D


Actually, the litre is not an SI unit. The official SI volume unit is the cubic metre (m³).


RE: Weird looking bug car
By dubldwn on 10/10/2008 6:30:24 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but it's a part of the metric system.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By PlasmaBomb on 10/10/2008 6:47:26 PM , Rating: 4
Handily though the definition of a litre is -
a measure of volume equivalent to 1 cubic decimetre.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By ggordonliddy on 10/10/2008 6:42:01 PM , Rating: 5
> Why won't the USA and the UK go metric once and for all?

 
I agree; the US should use the metric system, and the rest of the world should drive on the right side of the road.

But do you really expect us in the US to learn the metric system? Most people "graduating" high school nowadays are virtually illiterate.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By Tsuwamono on 10/11/2008 12:02:18 AM , Rating: 2
Just the way we like them so we can Reelect presidents like bush. Wake up man. Illiterate is where its at obviously.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By DeepBlue1975 on 10/11/2008 12:17:59 AM , Rating: 2
Could be something gradual, like, for example, on gas stations telling the volume in both units, using speedometers with both scales, talking about heights in both ways and so on.
And once people start to realize how straightforward is to make calculations using metric, I think the imperial system would start to slowly but steadily fade away.

Most of the world already know that English is the most similar thing to a universal language. Metric is the same for measurement units, except for just 2 countries :D

Oh, and BTW, driving on the right side? I think only Japan and the UK do it that way :D

That could be solved by 3 seat cars with the driver always in the middle of the front row, just by himself. Better viewing angles and less distractions because of some girl flashing her legs and potentially leading to driving accidents :D


RE: Weird looking bug car
By andrinoaa on 10/11/2008 2:55:56 AM , Rating: 2
Just add Australia, New Zealand. I don't know about any asian countries, might be a few there too! The infrustructure change wouldn't even be contemplated, lol.
We went metric in the sixties, and a good thing it was.
If this backward "penal " colony can do it, I think good ol USA should have no problems. ( if there is any money left in the system! )


RE: Weird looking bug car
By kontorotsui on 10/11/2008 1:10:15 PM , Rating: 3
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That could be solved by 3 seat cars with the driver always in the middle of the front row, just by himself. Better viewing angles and less distractions because of some girl flashing her legs and potentially leading to driving accidents :D


Sure, so now TWO girls on BOTH sides backward, so the driver has two chances to peek at her legs AND from an even better point of view... and much less safely. Result: 10 times more accidents!


RE: Weird looking bug car
By DeepBlue1975 on 10/11/2008 10:39:26 PM , Rating: 2
LOL

But accidents would be twice as happy that way, or wouldn't they?


RE: Weird looking bug car
By Solandri on 10/11/2008 7:18:47 PM , Rating: 4
This was tried in the 1970s, when I was a kid in elementary school. We had extensive lessons introducing us to both metric and imperial units (e.g. cm is about the width of your finger). Unfortunately, like most of the math lessons taught in school, Americans chose to simply forget it all when they grew up. The program was terminated shortly after, I was never quite sure why.

The U.S. will switch over eventually, but it'll be at the whim of the people. Most carpenters and contractors are fluent in both systems (and indeed screws and drill bits come in both metric and imperial sizes). The Auto industry has switched to metric, as has the U.S. Army. Certain applications though I expect will never be metric. e.g. navigation being done in nautical miles, because one nautical mile is equivalent to minute of longitude (1/60th of a degree) at the equator, approximately one minute of latitude anywhere. When your charts are primarily labeled in degrees lat/lon, it's handy having a distance unit that's a simple fraction of a degree.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By afkrotch on 10/14/2008 8:46:03 AM , Rating: 2
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Oh, and BTW, driving on the right side? I think only Japan and the UK do it that way :D


You mean driving on the left side. Majority of the world drive on the right side.

Japan, UK, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, and a few other countries drive on the left side. Pretty much the countries that England owned for a little while.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Countries_drivi...

Red for right side driving. Blue for left side driving.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By Oregonian2 on 10/13/2008 2:31:59 PM , Rating: 3
Almost every packaged product one buys in a U.S. store that has weight or volume on it will also have the metric version on it as well. And has for a very long time. Liquids often will also be even metric sized (1-liter, 0.8 liter, etc).


RE: Weird looking bug car
By shin0bi272 on 10/11/2008 1:03:52 PM , Rating: 1
My major problem with the metric system is theres no mid range between the tiny little centimeter and the meter for units of measure. I dont want to sit here and try to visualize how tall someone is in centimeters or try to figure out how tall they are in meters when they are 1.296m tall. Yes theres a decimeter but thats not much better than the centimeter. Why doesnt every one else change to the US system? The US (even now) is the worlds leading economy so we must be doing something right. Why dont you switch?


RE: Weird looking bug car
By Zirconium on 10/11/2008 1:26:54 PM , Rating: 1
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I dont want to sit here and try to ... figure out how tall they are in meters when they are 1.296m tall.
They are 1.296 meters tall.


RE: Weird looking bug car
By shin0bi272 on 10/11/2008 7:39:38 PM , Rating: 1
yeah obviously but if you were told someone is 5'2" tall you would have a hard time visualizing that in meters if you were used to meters and all the signs in your country were in meters. Not that you cant do it but its uncomfortable because of the differences between the two systems. If it was a meter is a yard (3 ft) it wouldnt be so hard but its 1m = ~3'3" so it gets complicated to think about if youre not accustomed to it.


RE: Weird looking bug car