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Circuit City gives HD DVD owners option to trade-in for Blu-ray

Consumers who bought high-definition movie hardware during the final weeks of HD DVD’s fight against Blu-ray Disc should have known what they were getting into. As they say, caveat emptor – or “let the buyer beware.”

Circuit City, however, is stretching out its hands to recent HD DVD hardware for a way out of the now dead-end format. Gizmodo copied what it believes to be post from an internal Circuit City forum detailing the end of HD DVD, which states that consumers may return their hardware for store credit.

The posting reads: “We do not want to upset our valued customers. For this special circumstance, we are happy to offer an exchange for a Blu-ray player (customer plays any difference in purchase price) - even if it has been several months since the customer made their HD DVD player purchase. If the customer does not want a Blu-ray player, we can issue a gift card refund for their original purchase price. For products purchased in the last 30 days, handle as usual.”

While the wordage does not specify an exact time window, most are interpreting that any HD DVD player purchase made within the last three months are eligible for return.

Rather than try to re-sell the HD DVD players as open box items, the internal information specifies that all hardware returns are “Return to Vendor” and must be sent back to Toshiba. Unlike with hardware, opened HD DVD software is not eligible for return.

Customers who feel stuck with HD DVD player purchases from Circuit City over the holiday season will clearly appreciate the chance to return their hardware, but those who bought a machine during recent clearance sales may opt to keep the players for their DVD upscaling features.





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Returned to Vendor?
By InternetGeek on 3/7/2008 12:39:25 AM , Rating: 2
What would be the implications on Toshiba? Are they going to reprocess all these players or just melt them into scrap? Take into account that if everyone changed their players it would like if the format war never happened...




RE: Returned to Vendor?
By Warren21 on 3/7/2008 12:49:24 AM , Rating: 3
What are you talking about? Eurasia has always been our ally.


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By Warren21 on 3/7/2008 4:40:17 AM , Rating: 1
Downmodded? Ever hear of 1984? Orwell...?


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By eye smite on 3/7/2008 8:36:19 AM , Rating: 4
Just to throw my 2 cents in, I don't think you'll hear of Best Buy making this kind of offer. Not unless they don't want to be upstaged.


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By xsilver on 3/7/2008 8:55:07 AM , Rating: 2
bollocks, we are at war with Eurasia; always have, always will. -- W. Smith, Ministry of truth ;)

On topic though, is it possible that toshiba is offering a good price for used or unused units to be returned? Say you paid $99 for your unit, toshiba is offering $100 for used or unused units to be returned. Therefore CC may offer this because they wont be losing out on any money? If anything they'll be making money in the hope that you'll buy loads of BD movies?
Nice theory?


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By Hypernova on 3/7/2008 1:21:08 AM , Rating: 1
Toshiba may be able to reuse the blue laser diodes or by changing the lenses+firmware convert the players into Blue-Ray players. It's a wild guess but not impossible.


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By lexluthermiester on 3/7/2008 3:01:44 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, that isn't possible. Although HD and BD use similar wavelength frequencies, they are implemented in physically different ways. I suspect that Toshiba is going to scrap them all. At best they may clearance them out as enhanced DVD players[which isn't a bad idea, but BD players can do the same thing]. The idea that the players might refitted with BD lasers[which is possible] is not fiscally feasible, so I don't see Toshiba going for that option...


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By oldman42 on 3/7/2008 9:24:22 AM , Rating: 2
I imagine they could at least scavenge most of the internals to be dropped into HD computer drives. A few hundred thousand players coming back to recycle their internals would likely do wonders for the financial side of Toshiba's computer works for this fiscal year.


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By Lightning III on 3/7/2008 1:32:19 PM , Rating: 3

My guess would be a firmware update and behold CH HD-DVD and resell them in china


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By HaZaRd2K6 on 3/7/2008 10:26:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
it would like if the format war never happened...


Do you know anyone who still has a Betamax player?


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By mmntech on 3/7/2008 1:45:36 PM , Rating: 2
I do. Still works great too. I have lots of old home movies and TV shows on Beta.

If anyone wants HD-DVD, Best Buy still has a whole pile of movies left. I didn't notice how much they were selling for them. Some poor guy picking through the HD-DVD shelf today. Glad I was on the winning side with my PS3 but I'm still not going to buy BD movies if they're going to keep charging $30-$40 for them.
It's good that there are at least some places offering a trade in program. Despite being a good upscaling player, it was still a lot to pay to get stuck with just that one feature, considering what regular upscaling DVD players sell for.


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By Spuke on 3/7/2008 5:05:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
considering what regular upscaling DVD players sell for.
The upscaler is better in the HD DVD units so it's still a good buy unless you paid more than the $99 deal, IMO.


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By jamawass on 3/7/2008 2:13:36 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah a lot of medical centers. The Clevelend Clinic heart center for one( #1 in US for > 10yrs). Betamax has always had better resolution than VHS so it was the preferred format for echocardiograms of the heart, tape archives.


RE: Returned to Vendor?
By JonnyDough on 3/9/2008 1:36:03 PM , Rating: 2
My university has one that I made note of one day, and they don't use it or treat it like anything special. It's a rather large machine on a mobile tv rack. I believe it sits abreast a VHS machine, which is used much more frequently. I for one find it sad that my college is utilizing the mobile tv rack, never-mind the VHS and Betamax players coupled with the piss-poor CRT television.


By jhinoz on 3/7/2008 12:59:35 AM , Rating: 5
they ain't going to be selling HD DVD movies for long, so lets get everyone a blu ray player, gain some goodwill and hope they buy their movies from us cause we helped them out with their obsoleted HD DVD player.

Good for customers, good for business.




By AlphaVirus on 3/7/2008 10:18:05 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Good for customers, good for business.

That is the main reason I think this is a great move. No matter how much it seems they are trying to gain positive PR, it does not seem like there is a snake hidden in the grass. The customer simply brings back obsolete hardware and leaves with a format standard piece of hardware.

And this will surely help the Blu move downwards in costs for Blu manufacturing companies, hopefully bringing down prices for consumers around holiday season.

What will Circuit City and Toshiba do with all these HDDVD players though, that is a tricky question.


By TomZ on 3/7/2008 12:16:47 PM , Rating: 3
The OP is right. There are a lot of benefits for CC for doing this, with no downside for CC.

1. Consumers have to pay the difference, which presumably will be a number greater than zero. Toshiba takes, and pays for, the returned unit, and CC is left having sold a presumably more expensive BD player. CC therefore may gain up to the full profit on the BD player sale.

2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no returns for media. Therefore, I would expect CC stores to be highly stocked with available BD content, with the assumed cross-sell of new media along with the upgrade, not to mention extended warranties, cables, and accessories.

Thinking about it more, to not offer such an upgrade, especially if Toshiba is footing the bill, would be stupid.


By crystal clear on 3/8/2008 2:54:10 AM , Rating: 2
Toshiba is not footing any bills, you can be rest assured on this.

Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.


Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba’s commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.



http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/ir/en/news/20080219...

There are some serious underlying factors that force retailers to come up with such incentives & you will see more of them in the future.

1) The B.R.format’s under-acceptance is a major worry for all the retailers as mainstream buyers are still on the DVD format even though they have bought HDTV.

Owners of HDDVD players will continue to hold to their sets & use those upscaling features to see DVD format movies.

New movie releases by the content producers still continue to be sold on DVD format & expect them to do so for the next 2 years.

The B.R.promoters major worry is slow/sluggish sales of B.R. content in short & medium term(yr 2008/09).

Major factors contributing to the above being-

1) HIGH prices of B.D.players & expect them to be that for the yr 2008 & 2H09.

2) The U.S. Economy which is rapidly moving from a slowdown to a full fledged recession.

"The debate should no longer be about whether there is or is not a recession, only about how deep it will be," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist with Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts.

Employment holds the key to the U.S. economy because jobs mean paychecks, paychecks mean consumer spending, and spending accounts for about 70 percent of the economy.

Retailers also shed jobs last month, dropping 34,000 people off their payrolls, a possible reflection of concern that hard-pressed consumers are likely to begin pulling back sharply on spending.


U.S. employers cut 63,000 jobs last month, according to Labor Department data released on Friday. That followed a loss of 22,000 jobs in January. December's job growth was only half as big as the government had earlier reported.



In 2 months we have lost 85000 jobs, thats a lot of people out of their jobs !

Expect MORE such gloomy reports this year.

"Turn out the lights. The party's over. We are in a recession,"


By TomZ on 3/8/2008 7:47:30 AM , Rating: 3
Thanks for your reply...nice to hear from you!

But from the article:

Rather than try to re-sell the HD DVD players as open box items, the internal information specifies that all hardware returns are “Return to Vendor” and must be sent back to Toshiba.

This tells me that CC came to some kind of agreement with Toshiba, and you can be sure that if units are being returned to Toshiba, then some monetary credit is being permitted.

In fact, I see it necessary on the part of Toshiba to "play nice" in this way. After all, one could argue that Toshiba opens themselves up to legal liability since they sold hardware units and then a short time later pulled all support for HD-DVD. Consumers purchased hardware and content based on a reasonable expectation of long-term support for the format, which Toshiba failed to deliver. Therefore, I believe that one reason these refunds are being permitted is to decrease the chances of a class-action lawsuit against Toshiba.


By crystal clear on 3/8/2008 8:48:54 AM , Rating: 2
The source of this information is itself highly questionable-
Gizmodo copied what it believes to be post from an internal Circuit City forum detailing the end of HD DVD, which states that consumers may return their hardware for store credit.


Sorry cannot treat it as a reliable source.

If you compare this from a similar article on D.T.-

Future Shop said that it would be donating all HD DVD hardware to the Boys and Girls Clubs of Canada for use in their after-school and evening programs.


Now both of them USA/Canada belong to the N.American market.

Therefore, I believe that one reason these refunds are being permitted is to decrease the chances of a class-action lawsuit against Toshiba.

Yes indeed but in this case Toshiba should come out with official press release on the matter of returns.

As for the class action suit against Toshiba,

YES you are right!.

Something/sometime later there exist a serious possibility,

The E.U. already demanding emails/records/transcripts etc from movie studios,Sony etc.


By crystal clear on 3/8/2008 9:17:36 AM , Rating: 2
Hi Tom,

About the economic crisis in the USA-

We here in Israel have Prof. Stanley Fischer as the Govenor of Bank of Israel.

Prior to joining the Bank of Israel, Prof. Fischer was Vice Chairman of Citigroup from February 2002 through April 2005, where he was also Head of the Public Sector Group from February 2004 to April 2005, Chairman of the Country Risk Committee, and President of Citigroup International.


We have direct access to economic matters on the USA.....

Have a nice day.


By nonsense is my specialty on 3/10/2008 1:28:30 AM , Rating: 1
Could you not post anymore? your sounding like and idiot albeit you aren't since your attempting to cite your opinions. But that's second post you've void of content, with characteristics of a fan boy, your first posted you made an opinionated statement and failed to back it as if you assume people can't read. Toshiba not footing any bills I'm afraid that you don't understand the concept of Return to Vendor (RTV), where a retailer [Circuit City] conditionally returns merchandise to supplier [Toshiba or some in-between] for a predetermined credit, it's a simple to understand concept the same as me returning the player to Circuit City.

Cut and Dry, All that Toshiba stated is that it would provide service as long as products are under warranty and would provide blank media until supplies are exhuasted, in my opinion indirectly applies to HDDVD players. "There, there we're not gonna leave you totally hanging" is what they are saying to consumers and loss will be kept minimum to investors who are considering jumping ship. Nothing about refusing returned players from retailers.

Circuit city is...

1. either eating the cost [doubt it]
2. returning them at volume price(full credit) [plausible but unlikely]
3. taking some kind of hit and returning them for partial credit

...and still makes a sale w/ high% of profit, and get good PR, as customer retention is big issue with retailers.

------------------------------------------------- -------
I doubt we are going to see anything like this often but I wouldn't be surprised if Best Buy or Walmart rollig out something similar.

1. I believe both suffered from under acceptance by the consumer is due to the fact
(a) that there were two formats.
(b) substantial premium over standard DVD.
(c) lack of understanding. (which reinforces (b))
So IMO until prices come down adoption rates will continue to be low. This 'format war' has shifted from HD DVD v. Blu-ray to Blu-ray v. DVD

quote:
Retailers also shed jobs last month, dropping 34,000 people off their payrolls, a possible reflection of concern that hard-pressed consumers are likely to begin pulling back sharply on spending.

U.S. employers cut 63,000 jobs last month, according to Labor Department data released on Friday. That followed a loss of 22,000 jobs in January. December's job growth was only half as big as the government had earlier reported.

In 2 months we have lost 85000 jobs, thats a lot of people out of their jobs !


I doubt it recession is a major factor, and that this is nothing more than a business opportunity.

Now for my two cents

Stop throwing 'WE' around like that

quote:
In 2 months we have lost 85000 jobs, thats a lot of people out of their jobs!

We here in Israel have Prof. Stanley Fischer as the Govenor of Bank of Israel.

We have direct access to economic matters on the USA.....


Don't mean to be rude but, who are you? your a nobody, stop trying to sound important.

Have a nice day!


By crystal clear on 3/11/2008 8:15:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Could you not post anymore? your sounding like and idiot albeit you aren't since your attempting to cite your opinions.


Don't mean to be rude but this is your first post on D.T. & you certainly dont make a good impression.

Why ?

1) To disagree with my opinions is human but calling somebody stupid doesnt make him one nor does it makes you appear any wiser or intelligent.

2) Delete those personal attacks & leave the core contents namely the subject matter,you will get a suitable response.

3)Nobody likes responding to hot heads,....etc, there are decent ways to discuss anything under the sky in a mature & educated manner, without the use of insulting language or personal attacks on him .

quote:
Don't mean to be rude but, who are you? your a nobody, stop trying to sound important


Do you know me ? definitely NOT......so how do you come to the conclusion "Your are nobody".
My professional life is nobodys business & nor do I wish to publicize myself.

Attack is not always the best statergy sometimes its suicidal or plain foolish...

As for my response to TOM Z .. It was directed to him only & NOT FOR YOU or anybody like you.

I do my research before posting my comments & give the necessary links to back up my opinions,there are situations I cannot do so for reasons beyond my control.

Stick to the subject matter only & You will certainly get a response with the necessary clarifications.


By JonnyDough on 3/9/2008 1:42:45 PM , Rating: 2
"And this will surely help the Blu move downwards in costs for Blu manufacturing companies, hopefully bringing down prices for consumers around holiday season."

The only thing that's going to bring prices down is a surplus. As long as consumers are buying at high prices, they will continue to stay high. If you want to see Blu-Ray players and discs cost less, wait until they are no longer such a hot item. DVD's are selling like hotcakes in the stores because they are no longer a hot commodity and they are reasonably priced now at under $15. Blu-Ray on the other hand costs twice that. Forget a bit better resolution. The difference between DVD and Blu-Ray is not nearly as noticeable as VHS and DVD, and IMO not worth two to five times the price. Upscaling and regular DVD is the way to go. Furthermore, it is easier to rip a DVD to my hard drive for future viewing than it is to bypass the DRM that comes with HD players.


Commendable move... but not necessitated.
By Warren21 on 3/7/2008 12:39:43 AM , Rating: 3
I think this is a stand-up thing to do, good job CC. On the flip side however, just like the Beta v. VHS war, customers bought into it with the possibility (maybe they were oblivious, but that doesn't make it CC's responsability) that one format could/would fall.

Still, quite a nice deal.




RE: Commendable move... but not necessitated.
By OrSin on 3/7/2008 8:25:17 AM , Rating: 1
The deal is not that nice. Most BR players cost double the money and has much bigger margins for CC. Since the customer has to pay the difference, CC will make a nice profit.

Still better then keeping an HD-DVD player if you payed full price.


RE: Commendable move... but not necessitated.
By mdogs444 on 3/7/2008 8:32:41 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
The deal is not that nice. Most BR players cost double the money and has much bigger margins for CC.

Look, I'm not a fan of this whole HD format stuff, as I havent, and do not intend to, purchase a new player for quite some time.

However, your argument that BR players cost double and CC will make bigger margins is somewhat bunk. Im sure they would make even larger margins by offering ZERO credit or refund, and just forcing people to buy a new player from scratch. That would save them money, as well as the time & hassle of this.

But yes, its still better than paying full price for obsolete hardware, but at least as a corporation, they are trying to help the consumer. But you cannot expect a company to bend over backwards to fully benefit a consumer when they have done nothing wrong at all to begin with.

CC didn't make anyone buy an HD-DVD player, and they aren't making you buy a BD-DVD player.


By Hiawa23 on 3/7/2008 10:44:12 AM , Rating: 2
It is a nice thing to do, but the way I see it, CC did not owe anyone, or had to do a thing. I bought the Xbox 360 HD DVD player knowing damn well BR was going to win, but I had to have Tranformers, HD. I love mine & as soon as I can find the standalone players for $75 or less I am getting one cause at the very least I am a collector & need one for my living room, also I can't wait for the fire sale to start so I can stock up on HD DVD movies for cheap...


By nonsense is my specialty on 3/10/2008 1:35:43 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think the BR player/profit is bunk, if it is why are they only offering store credit only. They are obviously trying to get you back into the store to buy more stuff given most people who turn in their players will only spend x but quite a few will spend more than x on their visit there, obviously no ones gonna sit on store cred.


Surprising action from a "big box"
By Pneumothorax on 3/7/2008 12:35:07 AM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't be surprised if Worst Buy decides to follow suit... Kudos for circuit city though for being the first to put this out. (Can't wait for the cheap open box HD-DVD's on ebay for me!)




RE: Surprising action from a "big box"
By exanimas on 3/7/2008 1:07:33 AM , Rating: 2
+1. I just want one so I can use it as an upscaling DVD player.


By Samus on 3/7/2008 1:50:52 AM , Rating: 2
They weren't this nice when DIVX failed.

And Circuit City was an exclusive retailer for that format.


House always wins
By vapore0n on 3/7/2008 8:41:43 AM , Rating: 2
Exchange for BluRay Player paying the difference
Buy BluRay movies
Get suckered into buying expensive Monster Cable
Re-sell HDDVD player at cost or a bit higher

Its a good move if they get the customer to buy the extras for that new shiny BluRay Player




RE: House always wins
By Hiawa23 on 3/7/2008 10:52:28 AM , Rating: 2
Get suckered into buying expensive Monster Cable

When I bought my PS3, I bought the $6 HDMI cable on monoprice.com, & bought the $99 Monster cables from Best buy. My eyes did not see a difference so of course the expensive cables went back. you have options. No one is forcing you to buy the expensive cables.


RE: House always wins
By tallcool1 on 3/7/2008 11:39:37 AM , Rating: 2
$6 for an HDMI cable, wow you got ripped off. J/K
I got mine at Amazon.com for 99 cents each!
Bought an extra one just in case one of them failed.
There are a bunch of different ones up their though for around $2-3 a piece.


Wrong word.
By MagicSquid on 3/7/2008 1:52:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
"an exchange for a Blu-ray player (customer plays any difference in purchase price)"


"Plays" should be "pays", right?




RE: Wrong word.
By isorfir on 3/7/2008 9:54:41 AM , Rating: 2
That was quoted from the Gizmodo article and they got it wrong, so it's best to keep it verbatim. They could acknowledge the error "(customer plays (sic) any difference in purchase price)," and that would relinquish Marcus Yam from this error.


By Chaser on 3/7/2008 10:48:01 AM , Rating: 3
Smart move. At one time most retailors supported HD DVD. It's very gracious of Circuit City to offer credit for a product they marketed at one time. Good on you Circuit City.

My question is how can anyone comment negatively about this decision or article? The grapes, sadly, continue to sour.




By A5un on 3/7/2008 2:36:14 AM , Rating: 2
In today's age, pretty much anything can be purchased online, and often for a cheaper price even with shipping included. But sometimes I still take the trip down to my local Circuit City or "Worst" Buy (as one of you said) and buy my stuff there. Sometimes I just want that peace of mind to not have to go back to a post office then wait for 3 business day for an exchange or return. Circuit City for example took back my 40gb PS3 no questions asked, after I mistakenly purchased it thinking Gran Turismo HD is the same game as Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.




Realy??
By othercents on 3/7/2008 11:41:34 AM , Rating: 2
Nice olive branch, but it wouldn't be a good idea for anyone who invested in an HD DVD player especially if your purchased movies.
quote:
Unlike with hardware, opened HD DVD software is not eligible for return.

You can get the new player, but you can't get replacement movies. This offer is a way for a Big Box store to look good on paper, but in reality is not going to get many returns. If you are thinking about this offer then you should get a dual format player that can play both HD DVD and BluRay.

Other




By crystal clear on 3/8/2008 4:44:37 AM , Rating: 2
Its no more of those format wars, now its the bad times ahead for the mainstream buyers that will plague the B.R. format.

Now its JOBS ! yes, you live with the fear you might loose it.

Retailers are well aware of this & are preparing for this,
consumer spending will fall drastically & will seriouslu affect B.R. sales(hardware+contents).

As a matter of fact-

Retailers also shed jobs last month, dropping 34,000 people off their payrolls, a reflection of concern that hard-pressed consumers are likely to begin pulling back sharply on spending.



Recession fears rise on more job cuts

http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSN0...

"The debate should no longer be about whether there is or is not a recession, only about how deep it will be," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist with Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts.

Consumers were already under strain from the slumping housing market and rising costs for food and energy & now add to this JOB LOSSES rapidly increasing by the month.

With credit market turmoil prompting banks to tighten lending standards, consumers have had a tougher time qualifying for cheap mortgages, auto loans and home equity lines. That suggests households will cut spending.

Don't count on debt-laden households to spend their way back to growth. As for banks, they are preoccupied with cleaning up their balance sheets after seven months of credit turmoil, which means they are unlikely to throw open the cash spigots. The federal government is mired in debt as well.

Many economists caution that the next wave of defaults on borrowing is likely to occur in consumer loans like those taken out to buy cars and to keep up credit-card payments.
The savings rate has hovered around zero for several months.


Employment holds the key to the U.S. economy because jobs mean paychecks, paychecks mean consumer spending, and spending accounts for about 70 percent of the economy.

* U.S. employers cut 63,000 jobs last month, according to Labor Department data released on Friday. That followed a loss of 22,000 jobs in January. December's job growth was only half as big as the government had earlier reported.



Summary-

Just in 2 months you have 85000 people out of their jobs !
& expect more every month in their thousands.

Consumer spending-basic necessities get first priority over everything else,B.R. players & contents can WAIT.

DVD players currently in their households will stay on for a long time.

Given the serious nature of the economic crisis & high prices of B.R players,I will not be surprised if-

Mainstream buyers will skip B.R. completely due to the economic crisis for more better/cheaper option/s available once the economy emerges out from recession.

Maybe Toshiba analysed the U.S. economy & future technological developments correctly to give up on the HDDVD format....

As for those Crystal Clear haters-

An extended period of unemployemnt(job losses) & debt burden
with ZERO savings rate,will serve as eye opener to the realities of life.

Till then they can call me names & make fun ...........till they are struck with unemployemnt/debts & poverty.
.




HD returns
By krmanning on 3/8/2008 3:35:50 PM , Rating: 2
My HD-DVD was a Christmas gift, purchased by my wife in late November. The CC manager refused to take our return, saying corporate policy was only for 90 days from purchase. So, we are still SOL.




rechip..
By rupaniii on 3/7/2008 12:23:47 PM , Rating: 1
Well, from what i have heard, since the lasers are the same... they only have to rechip or reboard the hddvd players to be bluray players.
Not that it's really cost effective to take back product like that.
M2C.




Thanks BUt I'll Pass
By SiliconAddict on 3/7/08, Rating: -1
RE: Thanks BUt I'll Pass
By LatinMessiah on 3/7/2008 1:32:22 PM , Rating: 1
Cue the "j/k!".


RE: Thanks BUt I'll Pass
By jevans64 on 3/8/2008 9:32:30 PM , Rating: 1
I'm not giving up my HD-DVD players ( yes. 2 of them ) either since it is a no-brainer to choose the SAME title for $10 over $30 for the BD version. I also have a Denon BD player, so I'm covered as far as BDs are concerned. Those folks that are selling their HD-DVD players and media only to re-buy a $400 BD player and $30 movies are fools.

If you want to jump into HD-DVD for the bargains or pick up a second player as a backup, now is the time to act. I've seen the "street" price of the A35 go from $190 to $240 in the last two weeks.


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