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Circuit City flyer clearly marking the new Xbox 360 prices  (Source: NeoGAF)
Microsoft Xbox 360 Premium plunges $50, Elite ebbs $30, Core cut $20

Another picture of an upcoming circular for a major electronics retailer shows price cuts across the board for the Xbox 360.

Shown in the Circuit City flyer are new prices for all three versions of the Microsoft console, with the Premium 20GB version getting the expected $50 price cut. Circuit City is also offering a free copy of Rockstar Table Tennis with the purchase of the Xbox 360 Premium.

The two other Xbox 360 products, however, will not be getting as considerable a price cut as its more common brethren.

The Xbox 360 Elite, which features an HDMI port and a 120GB hard drive, will only be receiving a $30 price cut down to $449. The Xbox 360 Core package, which is missing the hard drive and other accessories, will see an even smaller cut of $20 to $279.

These prices indicate smaller price adjustments than originally forecasted by Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter, who believed that the $299 Core system would drop to $249, the $399 Premium down to $349, and the $479 Elite to $399.

Although Microsoft has yet to formally announce new pricing of its console, retailer ads from Wal-Mart and Toys “R” Usalso indicate lower prices hitting on August 12.

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Elite should have gone to $399
By darkpaw on 7/31/2007 4:59:13 PM , Rating: 5
$450 is still too much for the elite, they either should have dropped it to $399 or included a game, 2nd controller, or something else.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By Eurasianman on 7/31/2007 5:10:37 PM , Rating: 2
HAHA!!! You're right! At launch, I got an XBOX 360 Premium, an extra wireless controller, plug and play charger with rechargeable battery pack, and Kameo for $479.99 plus tax at Costco!

By killerroach on 7/31/2007 5:13:13 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder if that's more of a "wow, it's still overpriced" thing or more of a "God bless Costco's deal-making prowess" thing, though.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By Fusible on 7/31/2007 5:11:54 PM , Rating: 2
To some extent I would agree with you, but they lost 1+ billion dollars. But the only deal you get is with the Premium, which does suck. And the core should have gone down to $249, and the Elite at $429.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By ObscureCaucasian on 7/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By Staples on 7/31/2007 5:58:02 PM , Rating: 2
That would be really nice. I would not hesitate if those prices came true (but I doubt it). And the 65nm chips have not gone into production as far as I know. This would mean that every Xbox on the shelf is 90nm.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By TheDoc9 on 7/31/2007 8:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
Was this from a best buy employee or a microsoft employee? There's a small difference.

By ObscureCaucasian on 8/1/2007 7:17:50 PM , Rating: 2
Actually it's from a random forum post by God knows who. Anyways it's more of the theory that makes sense to me regardless of the source.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By IceTron on 7/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By darkpaw on 7/31/2007 8:31:57 PM , Rating: 2
I think I'll just wait till UT3 comes out for the PC and play a real RTS. Halo is ok, but its definately no where near the best FPS and playing it online is like hanging out with a bunch of loud mouth 12 year olds.

No thanks, I'll pick it up when it hits the bargin bin to play through the story just like I did Halo 1+2.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By darkpaw on 7/31/2007 8:33:31 PM , Rating: 2
Obviously RTS supposed to be FPS, but I'm too friggen tired.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By tuteja1986 on 7/31/2007 8:58:06 PM , Rating: 3
Well you can play RPG :)
Blue dragon : Aug
Eternal Sonata : Sep
Mass effect : Nov
Lost Odyssey : dec

and also
Halo 3
Assassin's Creed
Rock Band
Call of Duty 4
Mercenaries 2
Burnout Paradise
Virtual Fighter 5 with online

So i got alot of awesome games coming for 360 me think and its great time to own one.

By darkpaw on 8/1/2007 8:55:56 AM , Rating: 2
I won't disagree there, there is definately some good stuff coming for the 360 in the next 6 months or so. I'll probably pick one up around Christmas if there's any good sales, but I also might wait another year or so. I usually don't buy console games until they are $30 unless its one I just have to have right away (and those are few and far between).

By Rampage on 8/1/2007 3:58:14 AM , Rating: 2
CSS isnt like playing with a bunch of loud mouth 12 year olds? I tire of all of gamings adolescent leanings myself. Its not just XBL with kids playing that you'd like to smack.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By FITCamaro on 8/1/2007 4:06:20 PM , Rating: 2
playing it online is like hanging out with a bunch of loud mouth 12 year olds.

Not if you just play with your friends.

By darkpaw on 8/1/2007 4:20:32 PM , Rating: 2
Oh I'm in 100% agreement there. If you've got friends into Halo thats fine, I think I've only got one friend that even owns a 360. Pretty much all my friends are PC gamers, hence waiting for UT3.

Halo could also really use some bot support for multiplayer, but thats a hole nother can of worms.

RE: Elite should have gone to $399
By danz32 on 7/31/2007 5:37:30 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah, but it makes more sense this way.

1) Do a small price cut
2) Halo 3 and GTA IV create sales
3) Do another price cut next summer and have sales go up again :) Consumers like the words price cut

A litle odd
By MonkeyPaw on 7/31/2007 5:36:41 PM , Rating: 2
Looking at these price cuts, I'm surprised MS keeps the Core around--at least in its current storage-less state. Obviously, these price cuts look like an effort to get consumers to buy a 360 with a HDD, as this opens the door to MS's various marketplaces and Live (where they probably make decent revenue). With the price cut, I figured the Core would drop to compete directly with the Wii, but it doesn't. Perhaps MS would have been better off keeping the Core $299 but include a 20GB HDD and keep the tethered controller. Premium could go to a Sony-like 80GB and wireless for $349. For something with the word "Premium" attached, a 20gb HDD is insufficient for something like the Video Marketplace. MS might be better off focusing the Core system on strictly gaming (one that allows saves!), and the Premium and Elite models towards the additional services of the 360.

RE: A litle odd
By Xerio on 7/31/2007 7:15:54 PM , Rating: 2
I agree whole-heartedly. The Core system is pretty much a waste. I would almost rather have an Xbox 1 than the Core system, if not for the better graphics and newer games. The fact that Microsoft released the 360 without an HDD at all is surprising if you think about it. At least make the core $250 to compete with the Wii.

RE: A litle odd
By JCheng on 7/31/2007 8:49:12 PM , Rating: 2
The Core is actually awesome as a Vista Media Center extender (and it better be, as there still are no non-Xbox360 extenders on the market yet). It also makes a good backup unit, for the two weeks that your Premium system is out for RROD service. ;)

RE: A litle odd
By NordicNINE on 8/1/2007 7:05:00 PM , Rating: 2
I was going to say why use the Core for a Media Center Extender when it doesn't include the remote.
Then, I looked up the Premium as it looks like it doesn't either.
Seems as though it was just an initial offering during the first Christmas season.

Still, $279 +$29 for the Xbox universal remote is pretty tempting.

RE: A litle odd
By mcturkey on 7/31/2007 10:56:58 PM , Rating: 2
Problem with the core price cut is that I've not seen too many cores available for purchase anyway. Given the supply situation, I rather suspect the only units being produced now are Elites, with the remaining stock of Premiums and Cores already in the channel being enough to satisfy demand until the 65nm is in full production (actually, if it's going to arrive in time for the Halo edition 360, it must already be in production).

Speaking of the Halo 360, it damn well better be the 65nm redesign, because I don't want to give up my fully working launch 90nm unit for a 90nm unit that just might die.

RE: A litle odd
By Moishe on 8/1/2007 7:55:47 AM , Rating: 2
Even if the Halo 360 is the 90nm version it'll still be better than the original 360s. MS would definitely apply the new anti-RROD stuff to a new temporary version. Remember, it's not the 90nm chip that is the problem, it's the way the parts were designed to assemble.

But still, I see what you're saying. I'd be really surprised if the halo 360 isn't 65nm.

By daftrok on 7/31/2007 7:49:01 PM , Rating: 2
All three models are cheaper than the PS3 (even before the price cut). It would have been better to decrease the prices of the accessories instead because now there is even LESS reason to buy a core system. For 70 bucks more (rather than 100 bucks more) you get HD cables, a 20 GB HDD, a wireless controller, a headset, an ethernet cable, and anything else I've forgotten. Frankly the core model should no longer be made and I wasn't really excited about the elite model in the first place. It should be just the "premium" model and should be sold for $299.99. Accessories' prices should have been dropped all around, especially the HDDs and the wireless adapter.

RE: Well...
By FITCamaro on 8/1/2007 4:12:52 PM , Rating: 2
If they priced the 20GB hard drive right for core owners ($30-40), developers could start to support the hard drive in all games.

I'm sure a large portion of them do anyway using it if its there.

RE: Well...
By tajoh111 on 8/2/2007 4:51:59 AM , Rating: 2
No company would price an accessory to the point where they lose money. Before you say a notebook harddrive cost 20 bucks. Find a link where we can find one for 20 bucks(one that isn't some wacky clearence if you can even find it). Add in the housing, packaging and the labor to combine the two and it is unfeasible. Plus companies always want to make money on accessories.

You could say that the cost of a hd loss could be supplemented by revenue generated by live and stuff purchased with points. But people buying cores in the first place are going for bare minimum because they can afford a premium which is tremendously the better value(but they can't spend that extra 70 dollars)and probaly don't have the money to spend on live and stuff purchased with points.

A better solution would be to cut off the core altogether. Or for those that still want a core (to the extreme budget people)is to include a 512 memory card or some flash memory built in.

Ouch Sony, your turn
By ChipDude on 7/31/2007 9:36:38 PM , Rating: 2
Well here go the price wars, first Sony now MS. All of a sudden that PS3 looks just as overprices as before and still with no more compelling games either.

Time for sony to stand up and do a 150 buck reduction and really make this interesting.

RE: Ouch Sony, your turn
By deeznuts on 8/1/2007 2:05:13 PM , Rating: 2
Before: PS3 $500 (until supplies run out), 360 Elite 480.
Now: Ps3 $500, 360 Elite $450.

If $30 at around the $500 level causes you to declare something else as now looking overpriced, more power to you.

RE: Ouch Sony, your turn
By tajoh111 on 8/2/2007 4:32:39 AM , Rating: 2
50 bucks is nothing when you get a blue ray drive, built in wireless(for those that don't have a network ready home or no computer beside their tv) and 5 free blueray movies.

Before you say I don't want blueray, ask yourself would you buy an xbox 360 that had built in wireless and an hd dvd inside for only 50 dollars more? Of course you would.

I think sony's $100 price cut and 5 blueray movies is far more impressive than a 30 dollar price cut on an elite(the Ps3 more direct competition) or even the 50 dollar premium price cut. Its just a shame that its only temporary. If Sony get smart hopefully they keep the price at 499 when the 80gb are availible.

Not as good as expected
By FITCamaro on 7/31/2007 5:38:59 PM , Rating: 3
I agree that the pricing should have been $250, $350, $400.

But all I can think is that either as someone said, this is just to flush out the 90nm models and then the 65nm models come in (of course it'd make more sense to offer the 90nm cheaper too).

Or they're leaving room for yet another price cut at Christmas time.

I have a feeling that with Sony raising the price of the PS3 back to $600 once the 60GB models are gone, they don't feel as threatened to lower the price as much right away. $450 for the Premium will put it $150 below the PS3. Add in the cost of the HD-DVD drive and you you're only spending $30 then the price of the PS3, but of course then you have to buy a HDMI cable for the PS3.

But yes a $100 difference between the Premium and Elite is too much. HDMI, 100GB more hard drive space, and black coloring doesn't justify that big a gap in my book unless it was $300 for the Premium(as the new base) and $400 for the Elite.

RE: Not as good as expected
By RubberJohnny on 7/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Not as good as expected
By Moishe on 8/1/2007 7:56:30 AM , Rating: 2

By whickywhickyjim on 8/1/2007 1:29:17 AM , Rating: 2
still waitng for the non-broken 65nm version to emerge. wake me up when it arrives.

RE: yawn
By Rampage on 8/1/2007 4:02:34 AM , Rating: 2
Ditto. No purchase for me till 65nm, then I'm going with the Elite.
Its nice to see the 360 keeping co-op play alive when the PC never really had much co-op play even after all these years.

Can't wait for Halo3 4-player co-op!

By KamiXkaze on 8/1/2007 1:03:13 AM , Rating: 2
Hopefully during the holiday season microsoft will lower the price far better than they did this round.


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