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2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Safety advocates say in-car Internet access is yet another distraction for drivers

Many American’s really like to stay connected on the road to emails and the internet. This accounts for the high growth rate of devices like smartphones and the increasing demand for mobile internet access for notebook computers.

Passengers on American Airlines this week were able to test in-flight WiFi access to keep connected while on flights across the country. Many more people each year drive for business or pleasure and the idea of internet connectivity in a car is very appealing to many.

Chrysler believes that there is a market for in-car internet access over what we get now with our mobile phones and laptop broadband cards. A new option on some 2009 Chrysler vehicles is an UConnect Web service that basically turns your car into a rolling hotspot.

The optional will operate on a 3G network just like your laptop modem or smartphone. Exactly whose 3G network will be used and how much the service will cost is unknown. Chrysler hasn’t disclosed pricing, but according to the LA Times, Chrysler has said that a subscription fee would be attached as well as a cost for the option.

A spokesman for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, Russ Rader said, “Stop already! Clearly this is a problem. Our cars are becoming just another place to catch up on calls and now e-mail, and that’s a real safety problem.”

Clearly safety advocates view this service as another distraction for drivers. Chrysler says that the web service is intended for use by passengers and intends the driver to only use the service when stopped. However, Chrysler does admit that there is no way to prevent driver’s form surfing the web and driving.

Download speeds on the service are not that great with a speed of only 600 to 800 kbps download and 200 kbps upload. Even if slow by today’s standards, web connectivity for all in a car would be welcome for car poolers looking to get ahead on a road trip or in traffic.



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in gear
By Screwballl on 6/26/2008 1:37:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Chrysler says that the web service is intended for use by passengers and intends the driver to only use the service when stopped. However, Chrysler does admit that there is no way to prevent driver’s form surfing the web and driving.


Sure there is, a small motion sensing switch that disables it when the car is moving. May be an inconvenience for passengers but oh well, go without. There has to be the priority of safety of all drivers over convenience.




RE: in gear
By othercents on 6/26/2008 1:45:24 PM , Rating: 3
Doesn't matter. The technology is already available, and I would rather have a 3G card in my laptop then one built into the car. Drivers will continue to be distracted while they drive. It is the driver that has to determine safety.

Other


RE: in gear
By rtrski on 6/26/2008 1:50:12 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, most in-car mapping systems do exactly this, disabling several functions when the car is in motion. Mine annoyingly also makes me hit an "I agree" button to confirm I know I shouldn't use it when in motion, once each start-up.

The system can be bypassed - get a wiring harness that jumpers the right voltage for 'not in motion' to the right pin - but the manufacturer's legal heiney is covered since that clearly shows user intent to intentionally bypass a safety feature.

Personally I like the idea (internet in the car) but more because I'd love to have realtime traffic and accident data uploaded to a mapping overlay to let me pick alternate routes in time to actually do some good, not because I plan on surfing my email or looking for restaurant reviews while driving....


RE: in gear
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/26/2008 1:54:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Personally I like the idea (internet in the car) but more because I'd love to have realtime traffic and accident data uploaded to a mapping overlay to let me pick alternate routes in time to actually do some good, not because I plan on surfing my email or looking for restaurant reviews while driving....


There are already many real-time GPS systems that do this. I think that Acura has one IIRC.


RE: in gear
By pauldovi on 6/26/2008 2:14:44 PM , Rating: 2
That would be retarded.

Now I can use my cars internet while it is parked in the driveway.

People can be responsible. Its not like they can't get 3G on their cell phone while they drive.


RE: in gear
By lagomorpha on 6/26/2008 2:30:10 PM , Rating: 3
Have you ever actually driven in the United States?


RE: in gear
By pauldovi on 6/26/2008 4:22:26 PM , Rating: 2
You missed the point. There are plenty of oppertunities for people to distract themselves. They can surf 3G all day while driving on their cell phone. There are no safety nets against that. Why do you need on for 3G built into the car?


RE: in gear
By Cheapshot on 6/26/2008 2:49:33 PM , Rating: 2
How about Microsoft Sam reading web pages out loud while the car is in motion.

With Speech recognition software... a decent sound insulation in the cab, and a touchscreen... this might work.


RE: in gear
By Polynikes on 6/26/2008 5:56:53 PM , Rating: 2
Nah, I say it should be "on" all the time, and if it's found that using it was the reason for an accident, your get a harsher sentence/fine and the victim can sue the pants off you.


RE: in gear
By Samus on 6/27/2008 5:33:17 AM , Rating: 1
Motion-sensing? it's the 21st century man! They'll hook that shit right into the VSS, and in the 22nd century, yer brains!!!


Really wifi?
By FreeTard on 6/29/2008 9:22:17 AM , Rating: 3
If this is really wifi, then it gives a new meaning to WarDriving.

How close will I have to follow the car, to leech off of his internet?




ummmm
By DEredita on 6/26/2008 3:04:37 PM , Rating: 2
"sorry I crashed into your car. Someone Rick Roll'd my navigation system and I was trying to fix it, and then boom!!!"




Better signal strength?
By Fnoob on 6/26/2008 7:06:46 PM , Rating: 2
I would be interested to see if a 'built-in' car wireless antenna could be made far superior to a handheld, in terms of signal strength. A much larger surface area antenna could be used (built into glass, etc.) - and the extra heat and power draw created by a signal amplifier wouldn't be an issue as it would in a handheld. Better still if this integrated antenna could serve to benefit any other mobile device that happpened to be along for the ride...




Simple solution...
By HighWing on 6/27/2008 4:07:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Clearly this is a problem. Our cars are becoming just another place to catch up on calls and now e-mail, and that’s a real safety problem.


Clearly there is a simple solution. Next we put the money into smart cars that drive themselves and the problem of a distracted driver is solved :-P

This way when the car plows into the back end of another you can blame the car and not the driver. Everyone is happy cause blame has been placed on no one involved in the problem. Isn't that the American way?




OMFG
By silversound on 6/26/08, Rating: -1
RE: OMFG
By Screwballl on 6/26/2008 3:02:33 PM , Rating: 5
You must have been born after 1990. Anyone older would appreciate the refined style of combining a classic look with modern architecture of the american muscle car.
That or you're a ricer baby that prefers to drive death trap speed bumps with titles like Type-R or some unpronounceable translated word from the orient...


RE: OMFG
By Runiteshark on 6/26/2008 7:13:11 PM , Rating: 2
AHEM,

You mean Type-RR

WHEN ONE R IS NOT ENOUGH:

http://everythingcars.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/...

Civic Type-RR (Mugen)


RE: OMFG
By Fnoob on 6/26/2008 9:37:32 PM , Rating: 2
It only needs 3 more spoilers tacked ontop of each other...

Well... that and QUAD coffee can sized exhaust pipes (one for each cylinder, duh!).


RE: OMFG
By onwisconsin on 6/26/2008 3:41:04 PM , Rating: 2
OMFG It's a Challenger, I like it a lot (looks a lot better than the old 70s version, and performs better and won't rust to pieces like the pre 80s mopars)


RE: OMFG
By Fnoob on 6/26/2008 9:40:48 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed... waaay better than the original. Needs to loose about 1000lbs tho, even with its 400+ hp.

Along these design lines, the new Camaro is going to eat this things lunch.


RE: OMFG
By cherrycoke on 6/28/2008 6:10:59 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, it looks just a little heavy around the waistline, the shapes and curves look grat though. I love a clean interpretation of a classic design.


plesae...
By lagomorpha on 6/26/08, Rating: -1
RE: plesae...
By Screwballl on 6/26/2008 2:48:22 PM , Rating: 3
If thats the case then go after Ford for pairing with Microsoft to have more distractions in their cars. Not only is it internet ready but also music and phone and I think it includes a catheter bag under the seat for blood alcohol testing...
Then go after Chevy for making the Hummer a consumer line instead of leaving it a proper military vehicle.
Chrysler at least is making what people want. Good looking AMERICAN vehicles at reasonable prices with average gas mileage. Compared to these "other" cars that get 40mpg but are death traps, I am happy by keeping my family safe and getting 15mpg in my Chrysler SUV.
Gas guzzling? VW, Subaru, BMW, Mercedes, Land Rover and most other companies are rated much worse than the big 3 US manufacturers... and many of these only make cars, so to have cars rated worse than full lines that include trucks and SUVs, thats really got to bug you.

Now let us know when your rose colored glasses come off so we can teach you more about reality.

For many of us, safety outweighs gas mileage.


RE: plesae...
By Parhel on 6/26/2008 3:17:15 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know. I wouldn't put it as strongly as the other guy, but compared to Ford or GM, I think Chrysler is lagging.

One thing I don't like is that as you move up in luxury features, they also package bigger and bigger engines. I'm one who wants the leather seats and fancy stereo, but I don't care for a 6.1 liter Hemi when gas prices are so volatile.

Hopefully the 2009 lineup improves things. I haven't seen the new Journey in person yet, but what I've seen looks good. Although I'll never be in the market for a coupe, I must admit the new Challenger is a really attractive design.


RE: plesae...
By Screwballl on 6/26/2008 4:22:18 PM , Rating: 2
Looking at overall vehicle lines, Chrysler is right there in the middle with the rest relating to gas mileage.

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/gasmileage/
In the mid size car segment, of the top 5, GM has 3 and Chrysler has 2.
CHEVROLET IMPALA
CHEVROLET MALIBU MAXX
CHRYSLER CONCORDE/LHS
DODGE INTREPID
BUICK LESABRE

With the new legislation passed in the US, even the full size cars and trucks will be required to get much better gas mileage over the next few years. Simply hanging at the minimum 15-20mpg is no longer an option, the new minimum will be 20-30mpg.

If you look at any ratings based testing or study, you will see they place the best of a category only 2-5mpg over the worst (except the death trap sub-compacts). Consumer Reports did testing on all lines of consumer vehicles from compacts to full size trucks. The best trucks and SUVs got 16-17mpg and the worst got 13-14mpg. That is at most 4mpg difference. So there is little to no difference between a Chrysler and Toyota as the OP may have been hinting at. Only when you compare a Prius hybrid against a Dodge Ram full size will you see any difference... but even then, you can use a Ford F150 or Honda Ridgeline instead of the Chrysler product which all get around 15mpg.


RE: plesae...
By xsilver on 6/26/2008 11:14:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
these "other" cars that get 40mpg but are death traps,


are you in the city? what exactly do you plan on hitting? I really dislike the mentality of "large" cars being safe because small cars do not fare well in hitting these vehicles. Its a selfish mentality that forces everyone to "upgrade" to large vehicles, then in order for car companies to promote "safe" vehicles you get larger vehicles. Snowball effect.


RE: plesae...
By FaceMaster on 7/1/2008 11:04:49 AM , Rating: 1
I fucked your Mum last night


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