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The new Challenger SRT8 could soon be burnin' up the Information Super Highway.  (Source: Chrysler LLC.)

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Jeep Compass  (Source: Chrysler LLC.)
Chrysler looks to provide customers with in-car Internet access this year

Chrysler is in serious troubles these days -- a position that it has found itself in several times during its 80 year history. The American automotive was bailed out by the federal government in the late-1970s thanks to pleas from Lee Iacocca and brought itself back to prominence during the mid-1980s with its minivans.

Daimler-Benz made the unorthodox move of buying Chrysler in 1998 and began spreading some of its technology and platforms throughout the Chrysler lineup (Crossfire, 300C, Charger, etc.). Mercedes' influence, however, wasn't enough to stop Chrysler from sliding yet again, so it sold 80.1% of the company to Cerberus Capital Management in 2007.

Rather than wowing customers back into the showrooms with attractive vehicles like it did during the 1990s, Chrysler is looking to technology to improve help improve its lagging vehicle sales. The company now wants to provide its vehicles with in-car internet access starting this year.

Details are relatively scarce on the in-car communications system, but Chrysler CEO Robert Nardelli says that customers will need to have an existing wireless cell phone provider to receive internet. Internet connectivity will then be spread though out the cabin -- and to nearby leechers -- via WiFi.

Future variants of the system could likely take advantage of technology like WiMAX.

In-car internet access may be a nice perk to purchasing a vehicle, but Chrysler needs to get back to the basics before trying to overreach with additional technology. The company has been lambasted in recent years for its horrible interior quality and unattractive designs like the Jeep Compass, Chrysler Sebring and Dodge Caliber.

Interestingly, the vehicle receiving the most attention from Chrysler these days is the 4,140-lb, 425 HP Dodge Challenger SRT8. The vehicle, which shares its Mercedes-sourced platform with the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Charger, is hitting the roads just as fuel prices are reaching new highs. Luckily for Chrysler, there are less powerful, more economical variants of the Challenger on the way in the form of Base and R/T trim levels.

Chrysler is pouring some resources into hybrid technology, but it unfortunately is currently limited to the slow-selling Dodge Durango and Chrysler Aspen. Meanwhile, competitors like Toyota and General Motors are quickly expanding their lineups to include hybrid vehicles in small, medium and large sizes. Likewise, competitors like Honda and Nissan are bringing fuel-efficient turbo-diesel engines to the United States.



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Distraction
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 3/24/2008 12:19:36 PM , Rating: 5
Like we need more distracted drivers? People are bad enough as it is..... =/




RE: Distraction
By therealnickdanger on 3/24/2008 12:23:52 PM , Rating: 3
Driver distraction/inattention is the leading cause of motor vehicle crashes. This does not bode well.


RE: Distraction
By waltzendless on 3/24/2008 1:03:11 PM , Rating: 2
Chrysler better have damn good pop-up blocker. The last thing I want to hear while driving is "CONGRAGULATIONS! YOU HAVE JUST WON A FREE IPOD NANO".


RE: Distraction
By djkrypplephite on 3/24/2008 1:52:52 PM , Rating: 3
Really? That sucks, I won TWO FREE IPOD NANOS!


RE: Distraction
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 3/24/2008 2:14:25 PM , Rating: 2
I guess I won all the other ones...Opps there one more.


RE: Distraction
By marsbound2024 on 3/24/2008 3:40:26 PM , Rating: 2
"Oh noes... my car is infected by virtumonde!" Never thought I'd hear that one.


RE: Distraction
By mihai on 3/24/2008 1:24:18 PM , Rating: 3
Guess that's the idea behind improving lagging sales, in the long-term.


RE: Distraction
By uhgotnegum on 3/24/2008 2:28:57 PM , Rating: 3
I contend that bad drivers are the leading cause of motor vehicle crashes (humor, anyone?). For example, why anyone who needs to turn left, but can't make it over in time, would decide to stop in the middle of the 4-lane road and wait until he/she can get all the way over boggles my mind.

...and don't get me started on 4-way stops...geez.


RE: Distraction
By FITCamaro on 3/24/2008 12:27:09 PM , Rating: 3
Seriously. We've already got people texting each other instead of paying attention to the road. Now they'll be beating off to porn or watching the latest music video too.

Really though my parents have a 04 Durango and a friend has an 07 Hemi Charger. Both are fine in terms of interior quality.

As far as the Challenger, the weight is why I don't like it. I mean over 4100 pounds for a sports car? This is 2008 not 1968. What the hell did they cram in it? And I thought my dads Trans Am was heavy at 3800 pounds. Not to mention its an automatic.


RE: Distraction
By Chris Peredun on 3/24/2008 12:35:16 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
As far as the Challenger, the weight is why I don't like it. I mean over 4100 pounds for a sports car? This is 2008 not 1968. What the hell did they cram in it? And I thought my dads Trans Am was heavy at 3800 pounds. Not to mention its an automatic.

Sound deadening, safety equipment, electronics, simple dimensions - cars are bigger now. They all add up really quickly. I'm not excusing the ever-growing waistline of cars these days, but some of that increase is for logical reasons.

As far as the automatic, something tells me the Challenger is aimed at stoplight drags and quarter-miles, areas where a solid automatic transmission (hopefully it takes well to a stall convertor and aftermarket cooler) will excel. Who wants to miss a shift when you need to hand that high-school punt with the Hyundai Accent in the next lane his butt on a platter?

quote:
Really though my parents have a 04 Durango and a friend has an 07 Hemi Charger. Both are fine in terms of interior quality.

It's certainly gotten better of late. Ergonomics are a bit iffy on some of their lineup, but they're liveable quirks. I've actually had the chance to take the Patriot North 4x4 with a manual out on some less-than-friendly roads, and for a little four-banger, it makes a decently competent rockhopper.


RE: Distraction
By marsbound2024 on 3/24/2008 1:04:32 PM , Rating: 2
But I thought the frames of cars were supposed to be a lot lighter now due to alloys and increased use of plastics? Besides, we've taken carburetors out and went to fuel-injection. Now we indeed have added airbags, sensors, computers and other safety features, but I think that if you see any weight increase at all, it should be rather insubstantial considering technological advancements and the movement towards miniaturization, weight-reduction and efficiency.

I would hope that most car companies would look to reducing the weight of vehicles and employing the use of new technology and innovation.


RE: Distraction
By marsbound2024 on 3/24/2008 12:27:33 PM , Rating: 5
"WHAT!!! DAILYTECH SAYS SPORE IS DELAYED AGAIN?! ARE YOU EFFIN' KIDDING ME THAT IS RIDICULOUS, I AM SO..." *crash* *dead*


RE: Distraction
By Polynikes on 3/24/2008 12:32:33 PM , Rating: 2
Chrysler Hopes In-car Internet Will Improve Lagging Sales... Hopes Customers Don't Kill Themselves While Using It.

I predict a CYA warning message each time the system boots up.


RE: Distraction
By eye smite on 3/24/2008 12:33:46 PM , Rating: 3
Yes I agree. Celphones, radios, portable dvd players and laptops just for starters are bad enough. In point of fact, I think I'd rather watch for drunk drivers than the folks that clearly shirk responsibility for the above items as they are somewhat predictable. lol


RE: Distraction
By i3arracuda on 3/24/2008 2:10:14 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. The last thing I need in the car is another distraction. It's hard enough as it is holding the coffee, talking on the cell phone, scraping the cheese off my #4 combo that I specifically ordered plain, scanning the radio for last night's scores, and ignoring that stupid 'check engine' light on the dash. Oh, and driving. While having sex with my girlfriend.

Wait, does it come with Firefox?


RE: Distraction
By BruceLeet on 3/26/2008 3:52:03 AM , Rating: 2
Im sure they will make it passenger only access, I mean its only logical!? Because for no god damn reason should the driver need access to the internet when he/she is driving. Driving is a privilege, not a right.


Marketing over reality
By 1prophet on 3/24/2008 12:24:01 PM , Rating: 2
How about a car that is affordable, economic and reliable.




RE: Marketing over reality
By xti on 3/24/2008 12:42:01 PM , Rating: 2
Honda is going to make this thing called a civic...i dont think its going to work tho.


RE: Marketing over reality
By SilthDraeth on 3/24/2008 12:59:54 PM , Rating: 2
And Toyota has one called the Corolla.


RE: Marketing over reality
By Gul Westfale on 3/24/2008 1:38:13 PM , Rating: 1
yeah but the problem with japanese cars is that they all have the personality of a microwave oven... reliable but boring enough to make vanilla look exciting.

(with the noted exceptions of the RX-7, NSX, skyline-the old skyline, not the new 350z with turbos, and the MX-5)


RE: Marketing over reality
By Oregonian2 on 3/24/2008 1:55:04 PM , Rating: 2
In terms of food, like ice-cream and the like, vanilla is where more of where people put their money than anywhere else. And by a large margin. Don't downplay vanilla, it's a winner and has been for a long time and likely will continue to win. Probably hold true for cars too.


RE: Marketing over reality
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/24/2008 1:58:36 PM , Rating: 1
And the Malibu, Fusion, Sebring, etc. have "personality" and aren't "boring"?

You can pick and choose what's boring and what's exciting, so I'll do the same. Some other "exciting" production Japanese cars:

Mazda RX-8
MazdaSpeed3
Honda Civic Si
Honda S2000
Nissan 350Z
Nissan GT-R
Lexus IS-F
Infiniti G37

That fairs pretty well with America's list of "exciting" cars:

Camaro (not here yet)
Corvette
Mustang
Challenger
Viper
Cobalt SS
Caliber SRT4
Solstice/Sky


By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/24/2008 2:00:51 PM , Rating: 2
Oh yeah, forgot to add the:

Subaru WRX/WRX STI
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X


RE: Marketing over reality
By MrBlastman on 3/24/2008 1:59:18 PM , Rating: 2
You obviously have never driven a Subaru WRX.

Good ole WRX Wagon (yes, station wagon) was the 2003 STX division STA Solo-II Autocross champions racing car of choice.

It is a turbo-charged rally car for the streets...

How is that for boring? ... and affordable too!

Or does the car need to "it's got a hemi in it!" to have personality?


RE: Marketing over reality
By Gul Westfale on 3/24/2008 3:20:46 PM , Rating: 1
no, by personality i mean that it should not be just designed for the lowest common denominator. a civic, just like an S2000, has flat, unstyled bodypanles. that way it makes it easier for tuners i guess, and it won't offend anyone. teh things are so boring that it is hard to tell different generations apart, or which generation is newer and which is older- they all look the same. the same is true of many cars of course (various VWs and audis come to mind), but the japanese have turned boring into an art form.

their motorcycles are the same btw- all have a look of sameness to them while BMWs, ducatis, aprilias, and KTMs manage to look different.


RE: Marketing over reality
By MrBlastman on 3/24/2008 4:05:12 PM , Rating: 2
Oh Honda is pretty boring yes. I'll agree there. There are some exceptions (I think the S2000 looks pretty nice), but of the japanese cars:

CRX (I think it looks pretty cool)
MR-2 Turbo (the early 90's model looks like a mini-ferrari)
Integra Type-R (looks like a RSX but still is kinda nifty - by no means hot like a MR-2 though)
RX-7 (the previous gen one, you mentioned this though)

and some others that were mentioned. Lately I am finding the MR-2 Turbo's among the hottest on the road.

Subaru has been widely varying their look every 2 years since the WRX came stateside in 2002.

They had the 2002-2003 bugeyes, 2004-2005's, 2006-2007 pignoses and the latest iteration 2008, which I do have to conceed looks like poo (except the STI Wagon). The 2002-2007 models looked pretty good and every two years they had a very nice change in look.

They don't look pretty, per say, but these are rally cars we are talking about. They are actually some of the ugliest cars on the road in some peoples opinion. I don't care, I get a grin on my face every time I drive mine.


Mercedes' involvement
By ElFenix on 3/24/2008 12:55:49 PM , Rating: 3
not sure why buying a competitor is unorthodox. and mercedes' mis-management of chrysler is what has put chrysler in this position.




RE: Mercedes' involvement
By Gul Westfale on 3/24/2008 1:15:34 PM , Rating: 1
chrysler was in the dumpster well before daimler-benz got involved, and without D-B there would be no 300, magnum, charger, or the new challenger since they all use mercedes E-class underpinnings.


RE: Mercedes' involvement
By ElFenix on 3/24/2008 1:30:53 PM , Rating: 1
making a billion a quarter is hardly 'in the dumpster.'

chrysler was keeping DCX afloat in the early years after the 'merger.'


RE: Mercedes' involvement
By Gul Westfale on 3/24/2008 1:34:18 PM , Rating: 2
i want some of what you're smoking.


RE: Mercedes' involvement
RE: Mercedes' involvement
By Gul Westfale on 3/24/08, Rating: 0
Lagging sales practice
By christojojo on 3/24/2008 2:02:05 PM , Rating: 4
I just bought a car (van). I had so many problems with Chryser's dealership salesmen.

They asked "how do you want to pay a month?" They got mad with the answer "nothing".

Ask them for a specific model that I knew I could afford. Right away they take me to a vehicle with a $10,000 USD price increase.

They laugh at reasonable counter offers. Shut down when you refuse their financing options.

Try to make you feel like you are not doing your job as parent for not buying the stupid dvd player. (A way overpriced option that can be countered with an $100 USD portable player that I can take into the hotel and watch there too.)

If Chrysler wants sales quit irritating its customer base. Deal a little. Chrysler you wouldn't have lost me as a sale if you would have done what other have been for a long long time.




RE: Lagging sales practice
By Noya on 3/24/2008 3:04:30 PM , Rating: 2
This is how any self respecting techy buys a car now days:

A - Know the vehicle you want to buy (test drive, reviews, comparison articles, etc.)

B - Go to autotrader.com and email every dealer within about 75 miles with the model, options and color you want. Ask them for their bottom line quote. Do not give them your phone number unless you like getting calls sales calls many times a day.

C - Go through all the offers the next day. For a Honda/Toyota/etc., a good deal will be about $500 over invoice on an in demand model (think Civic Si). A base or lower level trim level can usually be had for invoice- even less if the dealer is stocked up and needs to move some units, just to steal the sale from another dealer. For a domestic junker...you're on your own, I know I would never pay close to invoice on a domestic.

D - Email back the dealers with the next best price quotes, saying something like "Thanks for your time Gary, but I just got a great offer from another dealer." You can even add "I don't think you'll be able to beat it". Wait a day.

E - You should now get some price quotes just a few hundred over invoice (check auto.yahoo for invoices). The quotes will say "Good for 7 days"...but we all no that's not true. Take your pick of the offers, print it out and head down to the dealer. They may not have the exact trim/color you specified, and will continue to try and con you into another car...hold your ground. They'll also claim they need a deposit (to take you off the market), again you don't have to, but if you do, use your credit card and get everything in writing (agreed price, trim, color, etc.). All dealers do trades with one another to get a particular model/trim a customer wants, so it may take a few days to a week for them to get you your exact car. You can probably even fen angle a loaner out of them by telling them you just sold your current car and need transportation (have a friend/family member give you a ride/accompany you).

I've purchased two cars for myself using this method and for several friends/family. If you don't want to be a in stealership for hours while a salesperson runs back and forth to the sales manager putting on a show and insulting your intelligence, give it a try. Also, if you have good credit get financing on your own through your credit-union or bank, as of course the dealer will try to hit you at a higher rate than your score deserves. And never trade in your current car unless you like eating $2,500+.

Have fun and remember you're in control.


RE: Lagging sales practice
By christojojo on 3/24/2008 5:05:09 PM , Rating: 2
With a due espect, obviously you don't have monopolies to deal with.

In Buffalo there are very few nonrelated dealerships anymore. I have gone all the way to Pennsylvania to buy my last 2 cars.

I have tried all your advice before they just do the same junk. Prices are rarely adjusted without going for the big buck vehicles.

Just a few of these "Own every brand" Dealerships are Northtown "Insert brand here"

http://www.northtownauto.com/

Basil "ditto"
http://www.basilcars.com/

WestHerr
http://www.westherr.com/

They wont deal locally. The best deals are a few hundred off and that's not reasonable to me.

Sorry. It really is not a competitive market out here and the Chrysler/Dodge?Jeep dealers all had the same attitude.

BTW. I don't trade cars in. Thanks for your advice anyway.


By SilthDraeth on 3/24/2008 1:03:27 PM , Rating: 2
The problem with subjective opinions is: One mans' ugly is another mans' pretty.

For instance I like the look of the Prius but a ton of other people do not.


By nekobawt on 3/24/2008 2:56:35 PM , Rating: 2
I'm all for what the Prius represents, but for all that I have a hard time wrapping my brain around the desire to drive a giant neon blue shoebox .

On the other hand, I go all starry-eyed over smartcars, so your mileage may vary. *grins*


By michal1980 on 3/24/2008 1:29:36 PM , Rating: 1
and what good product do they have?


They need to improve their cars first
By theapparition on 3/24/2008 12:30:19 PM , Rating: 2
Adding internet connectivity to a refrigerator than doesn't keep food cold won't improve those refrigerator sales! Focus on the core functions, improve them, then people will come. While I think adding internet features is "neat", I don't see it drawing consumers into the dealership.

For starters, publicly admit you can't make a transmission/drivetrain to save your life and you're now going to buy them. Then reduce car weight (WTF - 4400lb Charger/Magnum/300 etc). Not only will that improve performance, but also help fuel economy. Finally, focus on quality and interiors.

I admire Dodge/Chrysler for some of their bold directions, unfortunately, execution has been horendous (at best).




By Carter642 on 3/24/2008 4:14:55 PM , Rating: 2
What is needed is a pair of new cars to fill the two huge gaping holes in their lineup. One to fit the Civic/Corolla econobox niche and the other the Fit the Camry/Accord niche. Those two segments hold the majority of sales volume for the US market.

At the moment they have the Caliber and Avenger/Sebring in those two slots. The Caliber is simply not on par with anything else in that market. It's too heavy, with a bad chassis and divisive styling and market placement. The Avenger/Sebring has gotten lambasted for sub-par interior, powertrain and overall quality despite styling that is actually sellable unlike the Caliber.

Heavy, powerful, luxury cars will always sell but save for ultra exotics a company needs to have core cars that sell in large volumes (and not to rental fleets.) Chrysler has a huge chance at the moment to bring to market two small light sporty cars to counter the endemic car bloat and "growing up" of Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM and to a lesser extent Nissan, Mitsubishi and Subaru.

ATM Chrysler is at least killing models that wern't selling and trying to restructure/redesign their operations until they can get new products to market. Still, without a significant design and engineering philosophy turnabout I think they're pretty doomed.


I'll buy one
By fic2 on 3/24/2008 3:56:07 PM , Rating: 2
I'll think about buying one when they have a wii included. I would rather die while playing Wii Sports while going down the highway than surfing the internet.




RE: I'll buy one
By bldckstark on 3/25/2008 12:31:45 PM , Rating: 2
Whenever my wife and I drive to the in-laws (14 hours) we load up the family with a 9" TV/DVD player and the Wii.

I always make sure the kids use the wrist straps tho, cuz I don't want to be hit in the back of the head by a nunchuk.


not sure about the bail out...
By jmunjr on 3/24/2008 1:37:49 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
The American automotive was bailed out by the federal government in the late-1970s


I thought the federal government just backed a private loan to Chrysler, which was paid back EARLY btw. The load still came from a private entity, just the government guaranteed it..




Challenger
By UppityMatt on 3/24/2008 12:27:14 PM , Rating: 2
The challenger is the first car Dodge has came out with in quite sometime that would even interest me. But the problem is you would need to have it as a weekend car, and still drive your honda daily because of gas prices. The American car companies really need to take a few pages from the Honda/Toyota side and start producing quality built cars, that are efficient.




Why? What's wrong with a laptop?
By boogle on 3/24/2008 12:29:20 PM , Rating: 2
Can't see this being particularly successful, a car with built-in Internet? I can imagine it'll have a high mark-up like satnav, but have few of the advantages. Its great having satnav built-in since its something you don't neccesarily need to upgrade or worry about.

But in-car net? I'm sure the people who want this (and would pay for it) have laptops with wireless internet adaptors already.




chrysler's sales
By Gul Westfale on 3/24/2008 1:11:59 PM , Rating: 2
chrysler's sales won't improve until they stop maiking crap cars. the only good line of cars they have right are the 300 series cars (including its platform mates), but the rest is just sad... and what have they done with jeep?? destroyed their tough guy image by releasing crappy-looking front wheel drive "SUVs" that are derived from the crappy-to-begin-with caliber?

what chrysler needs is not the internet, but new management.




Big three's trouble.
By Roy2001 on 3/24/2008 5:12:00 PM , Rating: 2
The big three always avoid to face the true reason why their sales are sliding: quality, durablity.




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