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About five million Chinese iPhone users have come to the store in search of apps

A Chinese app store is offering iPhone and iPad users pirated iOS apps in China, saying that users in the country lack familiarity with iTunes.

Chinese app store (which is provided by the company Kuaiyong) is using Apple's own enterprise licensing technology to offer pirated apps to Chinese iPhone and iPad users -- all without having to jailbreak their iOS devices.

How has it managed to do this? Apple's enterprise app deployment technology allows app distribution to an unlimited number of iOS devices -- meaning that corporations can distribute their own apps after receiving the necessary developer provisioning profile from Apple.

There's no need to jailbreak the iOS device because the same app is being distributed over and over with the same license ID. is now using this to offer pirated apps to Chinese iOS users, who can find apps like Final Fantasy V and Badland in the store. The "app store" said the reason for offering pirated apps is the challenges associated with using iTunes in China.

The following is a statement from

Statistics have shown that a significant amount of Apple users are Chinese based. However, the fact is that in China, a large number of Apple users are not very familiar with the iTunes system and how to effectively manage it.

In order for Chinese Apple fans to download applications securely, Kuaiyong developed its own method of giving users access to thousands of free apps without having to jailbreak their devices. Kuaiyong offers detailed descriptions of apps, free app download trial, IOS device management and visual and audio file backup system. IOS system backup and recovery features will also be released in the very near future.

Our goal has always been about bringing Chinese Apple users with quick, convenient and pleasant IOS experience. Since the introduce of Kuaiyong, the proportion of jailbreak in China has declined dramatically from 60% to around 30%. Kuaiyong will hold on to this goal in the future and we would like to see more support for Apple as well as Kuaiyong.

This, of course, is hurting Apple because it allows Chinese customers to buy Apple hardware without having any ties to the App Store, iCloud backup, etc. 

Currently, about five million Chinese iPhone users have come to the store in search of apps. offers a warning that customers should not use their Apple ID or the App Store to cut down on the "frequency of repair." 

Apple will likely come up with some way to shut this store down in the future, since it has already seized many fake Apple stores in China in the past. For instance, in July 2011, investigators found an unauthorized Apple retailer in Kunming, China after an American living in the city blogged about the store's products. The fake Apple store imitated a legitimate Apple store, right on down to the white walls, wood display tables, and employees with Apple t-shirts.

A month later, authorities inspected 300 additional stores in the city and managed to locate 22 more fake Apple retailers.

Source: Venture Beat

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Are we surprised?
By Cobra Commander on 4/22/2013 9:12:23 AM , Rating: 3
I'm not.

RE: Are we surprised?
By Snoop on 4/22/2013 9:31:06 AM , Rating: 4
ITunes is the worst. I am stuck with the current music on my iphone because I cant bear the thought of installing Itunes on my new work/dev machine. I am probably going to create a throw away XP VM specifically for Itunes. What a pain in the butt.

RE: Are we surprised?
By RaptureHybrid on 4/22/2013 10:31:58 AM , Rating: 2
I haven't posted on DT in months (if not years), but I logged in specifically to agree with you.

RE: Are we surprised?
By kmmatney on 4/22/2013 11:52:04 AM , Rating: 2
While I used to like iTunes, it just hasn't gotten any better, and new versions seems really buggy (running with Windows 8, at least). I'm in the same boat - I want to get some more music on my iPhone, but have just been dreading using iTunes. What I really hate is how it insists on backing up everything to my computer - I have an SSD and I don't need 16GB of Apps copied over to it.

I've been using iTunes for a long time, and each release I can barely figure out how to get it to work again (at least how I want it to work, which is not the out-of-box experience). I don't see how this would have any chance of working in China (and I've worked in China and Taiwan quite a bit).

What's ironic is that most iTunes alternative programs were made to look just like iTunes, with the same music browsing interface. (for example Songbird, MediaMonkey, SharePod, etc...). iTunes has gone and cluttered everything up, while these alternative programs are now much easier to use.
I dropped iTunes a long time ago for my old iPod Nano, using SharePod straight from the device itself). I'm still looking for a good alternative for transferring music to my iPhone. Maybe Songbird has gotten better...

RE: Are we surprised?
By kmmatney on 4/22/2013 11:59:29 AM , Rating: 3
While iTunes is a pain (and I agree with you), I've NEVER used it to buy or transfer Apps. This is not a good excuse to pirate Apps, since iTunes shouldn't be involved at all in that process (after the initial account creation).

RE: Are we surprised?
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 5:46:03 PM , Rating: 1
Pretty much, this is an old argument. You haven't needed iTunes for years. I can't remember the last time I plugged my phone into a computer.

RE: Are we surprised?
By Motoman on 4/22/2013 12:22:20 PM , Rating: 2
Convert all your iTunes stuff to .mp3 and then stop using it. Switch to using other online services to buy your music in normal .mp3 format, and use somethine else to manage your library - like Winamp.

RE: Are we surprised?
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 5:53:39 PM , Rating: 1
Why would you want to use mp3, that is ancient technology. AAC (aka mp4) is a much newer and more efficient codec, better quality at the same bitrate, plus it can be played back by anything. Hell, an old Nintendo DS can play back AAC files.

RE: Are we surprised?
By MechanicalTechie on 4/22/2013 8:27:54 PM , Rating: 2
If your stupid enough to own Apple products then you have only yourself to blame.

By SongEmu on 4/22/2013 9:27:12 AM , Rating: 2
I don't care that this is hurting Apple. They can take it.
But this is hurting developers more. So the sooner we f* up this operation, the better.

Also, Asians are smart, let them figure out iTunes...

RE: meh
By Shadowself on 4/22/2013 10:19:04 AM , Rating: 2
I agree with the sentiment that I don't care that this is hurting Apple (actually I doubt it is hurting Apple that much since it is quite likely that more people are buying iPhones because of this).

I do care that the iOS developers are not getting their fair share. That is just not right. Apple has the responsibility to help the developers who support iOS and move forward to fix this issue.

However, I am a bit confused as to what this means:
quote: offers a warning that customers should not use their Apple ID or the App Store to cut down on the "frequency of repair."
Is this supposed to mean that they don't want people using to update their pirated apps? If they don't want people to "cut down on the 'frequency of repair'", then are they saying they DO want people to download their pirated apps through then do all updates through the Apple app store? Very confusing phrasing.

RE: meh
By kmmatney on 4/22/2013 11:57:55 AM , Rating: 2
I think they mean don't connect to the Apple App store, or Apple in general, as your pirated games might stop working...

RE: meh
By web2dot0 on 4/22/2013 2:50:03 PM , Rating: 2
OK, I get your logic ....

Let's rob the rich, because they can afford it .... Makes alot of rational sense ... ?!?!?

But since this rob the poor as well, it's a no go.

2 Wrongs doesn't make a right. We know that .... but being wrong in general ... is wrong.

There's no excuse.

RE: meh
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 5:51:11 PM , Rating: 2
It is absolutely hurting developers.

This quote from them is total nonsense:

Statistics have shown that a significant amount of Apple users are Chinese based. However, the fact is that in China, a large number of Apple users are not very familiar with the iTunes system and how to effectively manage it.

You haven't needed to use iTunes with iOS for years, the iPhone and iPad are completely separate and self-sufficient now. This is all about piracy, plain and simple. China has a software piracy rate of about 80%, that is huge. By comparison the US has a piracy rate of about 20%.

This is all about stealing software, period.

By TemjinGold on 4/22/2013 10:15:51 AM , Rating: 5
But but but Apple security is the stuff of legends! Totally impervious to viruses, hacks, etc. This can't be true...

By xti on 4/22/2013 8:34:26 AM , Rating: 2
I mean...iTunes is slow/bloated/etc..

it isnt hard to use tho...

RE: lol
By retrospooty on 4/22/2013 11:03:50 AM , Rating: 1
If you ask me, the problem isn't that iTunes is hard to use, its that it's bloated and it sucks and I dont want that crap on my computer at all... If you have and iProduct, you almost have to have it since Apple cant make a product like every other manufacturer on Earth that simply detects as any flash drive to copy files over. "Walled garden" my ass... Its more of an idiot box.

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