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There is no word yet on U.S. availability

Nearly two months ago, we got a look at “how low they can go” when OEMs install Windows 8.1 with Bing on their tablets. China-based OEM Emdoor showed its vision of a $100 Windows-based tablet at Computex, and now KingSing is looking to join the fray with its $99 W8 tablet.
 
$99 will get you a 1.8GHz quad-core Intel Atom processor paired with 1GB of RAM, an 8” 1280x800 IPS display, 16GB of storage, an SD slot, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0, stereo speakers, 3G connectivity, and a 4500 mAh battery (good for up to 8 hours of runtime). However, compromises had to be made to reach such a low price point — front/rear cameras are both limited to 2MP and users will have to make do with only 5-point multi-touch instead of the more customary 10 points of touch.
 
The W8 of course runs Windows 8.1 with Bing, which means that Bing will be your default search engine in Internet Explorer when you take the tablet out of the box. However, you can always change your search provider if you wish.

 
It’s interesting to note that KingSing was able to throw in 3G functionality and still keep the price at $99 — that means that the company could drive prices even further downward with the inclusion of a Wi-Fi-only SKU.
 
According to WinBeta, there is no word on if the W8 will be made available outside of China. However, the arrival of $99 Windows 8.1 tablets in the U.S. is likely to happen sooner rather than later.

Sources: WinBeta, GizmoChina



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wow!
By GulWestfale on 7/30/2014 11:17:30 AM , Rating: 2
If the screen and battery life are decent then this will be a spectacular value.
but those are big "ifs", and at this price it's more likely to be a craptacular competitor for 70 dollar walmart tablets.
i hope anandtech reviews it soon.




RE: wow!
By KC7SWH on 7/30/2014 11:26:00 AM , Rating: 2
Battery: 4500mAh Li-ion for 6-8 hours of usage time
If they were available in the US I would buy 2 of them right now.


RE: wow!
By Mitch101 on 7/30/2014 11:59:36 AM , Rating: 1
Ohhh do I buy it or wait for the 14nm Intel chips to land?


RE: wow!
By retrospooty on 7/30/2014 12:18:48 PM , Rating: 5
My advise... unless you are specifically familiar with this OEM, wait and see reviews of actual shipping products to see how the build quality is and if alot of people are finding defects and/or taking them back. It's cheap, and it looks nice, but it could be really bad.


RE: wow!
By Mitch101 on 7/30/2014 1:32:46 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I want to make one into a dedicated jukebox controller maybe even some home automation from it.


RE: wow!
By GulWestfale on 7/30/2014 2:24:16 PM , Rating: 2
yes, that is why we need a decent review from a trustworthy site. not all walmart tablets are bad, either. right now here in canada they have a 9" one for about 90 bucks, with android/google play certified. the screen is even quite decent... but the CPU/RAM combo is too slow to make it useful for anything other than web browsing and email. and the screen is painfully low-res.

so if this kingsing thing actually has a good screen and good battery life, i think it would be a great buy, even if you had to order one from an asian website. the $100-120 lenovo/dell/HP android tablets are all terrible.


RE: wow!
By Reclaimer77 on 7/30/2014 4:06:41 PM , Rating: 3
This is basically the Coby of Windows tablets lol.


how long did it take?
By NellyFromMA on 7/30/2014 1:30:22 PM , Rating: 1
lol @ the amount of time it took for anyone to provide an 8.1 x86 device with 3g built-in.

Two years ago, we (the business I worked at) were desperately in need of a device with this capability at this or comparable price point.

The ease of typical desktop development with the ability to operate with internet connection in the field was a "holy grail" as far as a mobile platform of choice for our needs.

Too much time has passed since.

It's really silly that its taken as long as this, really. I know there were devices in the 650+ range with 3G/4G built-in but that was a really tough sale when sitting that device next to a then current iPad at equivalent price point.




RE: how long did it take?
By Spuke on 7/30/2014 3:37:03 PM , Rating: 2
Some of you guys have really weird expectations.


RE: how long did it take?
By NellyFromMA on 7/31/2014 7:55:01 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sure you're the type that thinks anything that is divergent from your thoughts is weird.

We served local municipalities which were heavily invested in MS products, sometimes aging products. Local cities and towns have real budgetary concerns so a little bit of reality has to be considered here.

You seem to be kind of narrow minded. Maybe consider scenarios other than your own.


RE: how long did it take?
By Spuke on 7/31/2014 11:35:08 AM , Rating: 2
What the hell does this...
quote:
We served local municipalities which were heavily invested in MS products, sometimes aging products. Local cities and towns have real budgetary concerns so a little bit of reality has to be considered here.


Have to do with this...
quote:
lol @ the amount of time it took for anyone to provide an 8.1 x86 device with 3g built-in.

How does your expectations have anything to do with me being narrowminded? Or me being green and purple for that matter. That makes no sense. I think it's strange that people sit around with a stopwatch waiting for tech features to show up and then criticize their timeliness instead being happy it's available. I could understand if it was promised and not delivered but this didn't exist before and now it does.


RE: how long did it take?
By NellyFromMA on 8/1/2014 10:23:20 AM , Rating: 2
You're assuming these are my expectations when in fact these were the parameters we had if we were going to engineer and deliver underfunded municipalties a device building and health code enforcement inspectors could use in the field.

They are sorely underfunded, and I am not saying I EXPECTED that this device be available but rather that IF IT HAD it would have filled a very useful role at the time. You're making assumptions, and you know what assumptions are good for, don't you?

Guy, you're picking a bone with me and talking about how strange I am when you're not exactly excelling at reading comprehension at the moment.

I am stating a real-world business experience that I had and you are just moaning over your misinformed assumption.


RE: how long did it take?
By NellyFromMA on 8/1/2014 10:25:39 AM , Rating: 2
Also, to clarify, my remark about "too much time has passed" is because the company was sold to a large Fortune 500 organization that caters to well-funded large capitals like New York City and San Francisco, and could care less about Podunk, USA.

So, it's too late for them now.

Rather than assume next time and jump the gun, maybe ask for an elaboration?


RE: how long did it take?
By w8gaming on 7/31/2014 4:43:14 AM , Rating: 2
I am pretty sure Acer has released Windows tablets (both 7 and 8) with 3G built-in, and cost less than $500. Samsung probably has one too (that running Atom chipset). But of course, if you are looking at an iCore level CPU with 3G and sub-$500 price point, I don't think you will get that anytime soon until Intel gets really really desperate.


RE: how long did it take?
By testbug00 on 7/31/2014 12:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
um, Windows 8.1 was only released to consumers about 8 months ago?

How do you expect people to make an 8.1 device for the other 16 months in your statement?


RE: how long did it take?
By NellyFromMA on 8/1/2014 10:30:28 AM , Rating: 2
Really, you're bemoaning that I don't refer to 8 and 8.1 as different OS's?


Multi-touch
By Vertigo2000 on 7/30/2014 11:31:02 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
users will have to make do with only 5-point multi-touch instead of the more customary 10 points of touch.

Hmmm... I don't remember ever having more than 3 fingers on my tablet. I don't see this being a huge problem for most people.




RE: Multi-touch
By ilt24 on 7/30/2014 12:14:54 PM , Rating: 2
The more points, the more accurate response your going to get. 10 point is what you get from most of the tablets made by top tier manufactures....but in this case, your spending $100 vs. say $250 for the Dell 8" W8 tablet.

The question for people looking for a 8" Windows tablets will be are 10-point vs. 5, Office, 2GB RAM vs. 1, 32 GB storage vs. 16 worth the extra $150? I imagine for many, who aren't going to use it as a primary device, the answer will be no.


RE: Multi-touch
By althaz on 7/30/2014 10:29:39 PM , Rating: 3
Typing...


RE: Multi-touch
By Schrag4 on 7/31/2014 2:00:01 PM , Rating: 2
Ok, I'll bite. If you have more than 5 fingers on the keyboard at a time while typing then you're doing it wrong.


Yeah, Intel totally not giving away Bay Trail
By testbug00 on 7/30/14, Rating: 0
RE: Yeah, Intel totally not giving away Bay Trail
By Mint on 7/30/2014 12:14:48 PM , Rating: 2
Are you serious? Who is selling quad core A15 SoCs for $5?


RE: Yeah, Intel totally not giving away Bay Trail
By testbug00 on 7/31/2014 12:04:28 AM , Rating: 2
Oops made a little mistake... Rockchip has a quad core A9 (1.6Ghz) in under a 25mm^2 chip. Though it was A15, my bad.
Given 50% yield, it can be sold at $5 at a profit. actually, yield would need to be under 25% for $5 to NOT have a margin. And, that is overestimating wafer prices by quite a bit.

Of course, Rockchip could make an A15 chip that would likely be under 30mm^2 (A15 core is sub 2mm^2 on 28nm) that, given 50% yields, would need around $5 selling point to make a profit. Overestimating wafer price again.


RE: Yeah, Intel totally not giving away Bay Trail
By Flunk on 7/31/2014 10:33:55 AM , Rating: 2
Did you remember to factor in 3rd party IP licensing costs? Actual physical manufacturing is only one component of IC pricing.


By testbug00 on 7/31/2014 11:40:54 AM , Rating: 2
yes, the cost to license stuff from ARM is measured in cents per core or a small percent of the overall chip...

all the parts used are from ARM, I would guess licensing costs are under 25 cents per chip, and, that is probably a high estimate.

My price estimates are based on a $5000 wafer on 28nm, a price that I would guess is at least a thousand dollars to high.


Chinese spyware
By Neodude007 on 7/30/2014 12:14:30 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sure it will be totally legit and free of Chinese spyware and other embedded "features"....




RE: Chinese spyware
By wordsworm on 7/31/2014 2:42:37 AM , Rating: 2
Probably... but more than likely MS will have its own spyware on it.


Hmmm...
By haukionkannel on 7/31/2014 7:47:56 AM , Rating: 2
Interesting to see what you would get with 200$, if 99$ is in this level.
As someone said above, this is fine for most users. But some more power would not hurt. But most probably they will release also upper segment products too. In anyway it is good to see the prices coming down!




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