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Chinese military possibly pulls off the most successful hack yet against U.S. defense

According to American officials, the Chinese military launched in June the most successful attack on the U.S. defense department. Representatives at the Pentagon confirmed that it had to shut down part of its computer system in response to an attack, though declined to comment on who it believed to be behind the attack. Sources say that the attack came from the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) in China.

“The PLA has demonstrated the ability to conduct attacks that disable our system... and the ability in a conflict situation to re-enter and disrupt on a very large scale,” said a former official to the Financial Times. The official also said that the PLA was able to penetratedefence and think-tanknetworks.

Both the Chinese military and the U.S. defense bodies are believed to take part in active probing of one another. Hackers from China supposedly spent weeks testing the Pentagon before launching the attack. In response to the intrusion, the Pentagon took offline vulnerable parts of its network.

Although the Pentagon will not discuss in detail the effects of the attack, sources familiar with the matter said that the information accessed by the hackers were “unclassified,” and thus, likely not to contain sensitive government data.

The Pentagon said that the attack on its system has urged greater attention to the matter of security. “These are multiple wake-up calls stirring us to levels of more aggressive vigilance,” said Pentagon top Asia official Richard Lawless.

The compromise of the U.S. defense system has forced officials to reconsider the type of information that is transmitted via email or with BlackBerry mobiles.

The phenomenon of cyberwar is not one that is new to the U.S. government. A number of government websites have been the target of attacks by both foreign governments and independent hackers. The U.S. and China, in particular, are no stranger to spying on one another. In April 2001, a US spy plane collided with a Chinese fighter jet, sparking the first major cyberwar between the two countries.



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6th military branch?
By 1337n00blar on 9/4/2007 9:02:33 AM , Rating: 2
Does anyone else think that the US should make a 6th military branch devoted to cyberwarfare? It's only going to get more important, not less so.




RE: 6th military branch?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 9/4/2007 9:45:50 AM , Rating: 2
The U.S. sort of did already, last year:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4800


RE: 6th military branch?
By Oxygenthief on 9/4/07, Rating: -1
RE: 6th military branch?
By rcc on 9/4/2007 12:25:33 PM , Rating: 2
Just a clarification. The Marines fall under the Department of the Navy, I know, they don't like it, but they do. The Coast Guard is under the Department of Transportation, except in case of war where they conduct operations under the Department of the Navy.

Unless things have changed a lot in the last few years. : )

The problem in starting a separate branch for "cyberwar" is that by its very nature it would have to work internally to all the other branches. And as we have seen so many times in the past, inter-branch rivalries make that difficult at best.


RE: 6th military branch?
By rdeegvainl on 9/4/2007 2:44:11 PM , Rating: 2
Yes we do unfortunately, but i am kinda hoping it will work out for us like it did for the air force (previously the air corps) We get a cool new name (United States Marine Force?) and allot more funding. :D
If that doesn't work out i still think we should be recognized as a separate branch off of paper, by the people.


RE: 6th military branch?
By rcc on 9/4/2007 4:06:44 PM , Rating: 2
It's ok, most of the people don't realize that the Corps isn't a separate entity anyway. Just the people involved, and the semi-oldtimers like me.

: )


RE: 6th military branch?
By Albotron on 9/6/2007 2:29:19 PM , Rating: 2
The Coast Guard was moved under the Depatartment of Homeland Security upon the department's formation.

You can check that at http://www.uscg.mil/

Right at the top of the page.


RE: 6th military branch?
By Oxygenthief on 9/4/2007 10:10:02 AM , Rating: 2
It won't happen in our lifetime. Though I am sure the 5 current branches will have MAJCOMs devoted to thwarting Cyberterrorism like the Air Force currently does, it would simply be too difficult to manage at a Branch level.

Imagine needing to get tech support for your Air Force owned computer, you couldn't just call tech support on base, you would have to contact the NEW Cyber Terror Branch and have them help.

Its not a question of need in this case, its a question of ownership. The Army deals in ground pounders, the Airforce in Jets, Navy and Coast guard with ships, and the Marines for amphibious assault. All of which use computers to do their jobs. What would the new 6th branch own? What assets would they control? Would the 5 current branches ever relinquish control of their computer systems to an external entity? Could it ever truly integrate and support each of the other Branches?

My guess is no, and will remain so for another 50 to 100 years until computer automation takes a few leaps forward. Once technicians are no longer needed to maintain our networks then assets in the form of personnel are no longer necessary which means integration would be easier as would support. Even then, I doubt it would be classified as a 6th branch. The DoD would probably just have an organization that issued orders to the Cyber commands of each Branch when necessary and managed by exception in most other cases.


RE: 6th military branch?
By masher2 (blog) on 9/4/2007 10:23:53 AM , Rating: 2
> "My guess is no, and will remain so for another 50 to 100 years"

While you raise valid points, no one can predict what computer automation will look like in 50 years time, much less 100. Even the Air Force itself has barely been existence for 50 years. Trying to predict how the armed forces will use computers in the year 2100 is a task beyond any of us.


RE: 6th military branch?
By BlackBanna on 9/4/2007 1:45:14 PM , Rating: 2
You wont have a Cyber branch of the military established until you have a conflict similar to what WWII did for air power or the Barbary Wars did for the navy.

Right now, any cyber warfare would be conducted through the combined air ops center. When the Air Force established Cyber Space Command, they rewrote their doctrine so the Cyber Space was included in their definition of Air and Space. That is about all their is to do on. I believe anything else would fall under the intelligence communities /Home Land security.

Oxygenthief; largely your IT example happens today. The military is divided up by capabilities. When some one calls for CAS they might get army, navy, or air force units to respond. The FOB where a unit is deployed might be operated by the navy and so the navy is responsible for providing power/water/shelter to units there. Today, it could be an allied force that aid an American Unit.


RE: 6th military branch?
By ivanv4 on 9/4/2007 11:31:07 AM , Rating: 2
I guess it's possible, that way they could act more freely and have more direct chain of command, but by the time it became a branch it would be because of the need of Hacking as an offensive weapons that could reach real damage to the enemy.

In other thoughts. does a cyberattack would be considered terrorism? where does the line disappear?


RE: 6th military branch?
By masher2 (blog) on 9/4/2007 11:59:08 AM , Rating: 1
I don't think any rational person would conclude this attack was meant to instill terror. Its simple espionage, nothing more.


RE: 6th military branch?
By HrilL on 9/4/2007 12:20:59 PM , Rating: 2
I think it would matter on what they are doing. If they hacked in to take down infrastructures then that would be considered an act of terrorism.


By Master Kenobi (blog) on 9/4/2007 2:59:11 PM , Rating: 2
Or a military grade surgical strike?


RE: 6th military branch?
By InsaneGain on 9/6/2007 12:28:29 PM , Rating: 2
Terrorism doesn't mean causing damage or casualties. It is basically a form of coercion, which is the act of using force or threats to obtain compliant behavior from a previously uncooperative organization. Causing damage in order to hinder or eliminate the function of an objective is just a military attack.


RE: 6th military branch?
By mino on 9/11/2007 12:55:27 PM , Rating: 2
Well, according to your definition the biggest terrorist organization is the US government.

Not that on international scene I object that observation.

But this same definition makes ANY government terrorist in regard to its citizens.

Funny, how the logic works, isn't it?


It wasn't the Chinese at all.....
By Amiga500 on 9/4/2007 6:18:33 AM , Rating: 2
It was the Decepticons.

Sure they were even caught on camera doing it!!! :-D




By lufoxe on 9/4/2007 9:16:00 AM , Rating: 2
the funny part is it sounds exactly like that at first


RE: It wasn't the Chinese at all.....
By mars777 on 9/4/2007 9:37:22 AM , Rating: 2
Your title can really be true.
I could use the Tor network to hack their system. If my endpoint were to be in China the Government could not say anything else.
They would be saying the Chinese spies have hacked them.
Thats because they cant supervise or request investigation of internet traffic in China...


RE: It wasn't the Chinese at all.....
By Ringold on 9/4/2007 2:00:37 PM , Rating: 2
I predict the Tor house of cards will fall apart within a few years.

Security reasons? No. Random hackers that want to prove they can do it? No.

Simply because it harbors child porn, and the government knows that it does. I've rarely seen anything more viciously pursued than law enforcement after child porn. I last heard about it a year or two ago; I don't know if they'll crack the whole thing apart or simply pursue those hosting the material, but they'll figure it out if it takes all decade.


By geddarkstorm on 9/5/2007 3:42:42 PM , Rating: 2
The only way to take on Tor is taking on the exit nodes, or by banning the IP for the directory servers by a state wide firewall. China hasn't even done that yet, amazingly.

It is really sad that people perceive Tor as some pass to such dark things. The truth of the matter is, it's much safer just to steal someone else's identity to use Tor; and someone who is so unscrupulous to post child porn would probably not have any issues doing