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  (Source: Scary for the Kids)
Likelihood of conviction is estimated to be around 99.9 percent

Nine individuals are on trial in China for buying a kidney from a teenager who was looking for money to buy Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) popular iPad and iPhone.  

The 17-year-old surnamed "Zheng" had no college degree and would have made only around 1-1.5k RMB (CN¥) ($157-236 USD) per month, hence requiring several months of hard work (assuming he could save all his money) to pay for the slick devices.  Instead, the teenager chose to make a rash decision and sold his kidney in an illegal operation to purchase the slick status symbol.  The kidney was transplanted into a person of unknown nationality who has looked to skip donor wait lists via the black market.

When his mother found out, she was furious and retained a lawyer.  Her lawyer is requesting 2.27M RMB (CN¥) (~$357K USD) in compensation.

Prosecutors in the Beihu district court in the inland southeastern province of Hunan said that those involved "should be held criminally liable for intentional injury".  A 2010 U.S. State Department report estimates that 99.9 percent of people who stand trial in China are found guilty.

iPad buyer
A Chinese teen made the ultimate sacrifice for his i-products.  
[Image Source: The Oatmeal; used with permission]

Surgeon Song Zhongyu reportedly made 52,000 RMB ($8,175 USD) off the transplant; Su Kaizong, the hospital urology dept. contractor, scored 60,000 yuan ($9,430 USD); and the go-between man He Wei received 56,360 ($8,860 USD).  He Wei is described as a man "penniless and frustrated over gambling debts."

Two other defendants also received smaller cuts -- their role was unclear. Two nurses, a surgical assistant, and an anesthesiologist from the hospital have also been charged for their roles in the operation, though it's unclear how much illegal compensation (if any) they received.  The victim received only 22,000 RMB (CN¥) ($3,460 USD), only about a tenth of the total money scored by the hospital staff.

That takes the defendant total to 9 individuals -- most of which have close ties to the district hospital.

Nine individuals -- mostly medical staff -- have been charged for the illegal operation.
[Image Source: Xinhua]

The hearing has finished and the defendants and prosecutors are now awaiting the verdict, which will almost certainly be "guilty".

Black market organ trade has been widely reported to be occuring in China, but this is one of the first times the issue has received significant attention from Xinhua, China's state-run news agency.

The human body can adapt to the loss of a kidney, but the problem posed by black market operations is that individuals are typically not screened for health risks [source] that could be inacerbated by the donation.  In the worst case, donation from an unhealthy donor could lead to failure of their remaining kidney, illness, and even death.

Source: CNN

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Embrace thy ignorance
By Schadenfroh on 8/10/2012 11:33:03 PM , Rating: 1
I feel no sorrow for this man. He is old enough to realize the consequences of his actions and yet, voluntarily, let them remove his organ.

Most children would realize that allowing a stranger to cut you open and remove pieces of you is not worth a shiny new toy.

If he was mentally deficient / retarded, then this might be a different story...

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Motoman on 8/10/2012 11:46:20 PM , Rating: 5
...well, he is an Apple fan after all...

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Pirks on 8/11/2012 1:14:12 AM , Rating: 5
The 17-year-old surnamed "Swash"

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Samus on 8/11/2012 1:33:23 AM , Rating: 4
I actually feel bad for the medical staff, most of which appearantly made no money at all and were probably conned into thinking the proceedure was a routine kidney removal. Who knows, the medical review might have been completely scripted by the middleman and somebody in the hospital got it in queue.

Sure, its speculation, but it's my opinion if people want to sell their body be it. Nine other people, some of which could be completely innocent (nurses are often left in the dark about certain proceedures and history even in the United States) should not be punished but this boy's complete lapse in judgement.

Furthermore, what percentage of that 250k USD compensation fee is going to the lawyer. I hate hate hate blood thirsty lawyers like this. If that money is going to be reallocated from the hospital to his pockets, that, in my opinion, is criminal. How many people are going to die because of cuts in hospital funding to pay the 250k debt? That figure is a huge blow to even a medical facility in China.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Articuno on 8/11/2012 1:49:35 AM , Rating: 2
Anyone who's buying organs from the black market knows that there's a risk of infection, so honestly it's likely only illegal because the hospitals can't make thousands of dollars per surgery.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Tony Swash on 8/11/12, Rating: 0
RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By bupkus on 8/11/12, Rating: 0
RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/11/2012 6:28:34 PM , Rating: 3
No, actually, it wasn't funny...

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Tony Swash on 8/11/12, Rating: 0
RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/11/12, Rating: 0
RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Black1969ta on 8/12/2012 4:30:39 AM , Rating: 1
Swash made a Funny!
On this day the Day of our Jobs, August 11th 2012

Swash made a Funny!
Bet it will be more than a year before I have to type that again!

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Tony Swash on 8/12/2012 6:07:00 AM , Rating: 1
Once again, you are a fucking idiot. I get jokes, you on the other hand, aren't FUNNY. Big difference. Trolls don't tend to be funny...

"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."
       -- Eric Hoffer

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/12/2012 11:02:17 AM , Rating: 2
And yet another quote...

Typical when you have nothing to counter with....

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By ritualm on 8/12/2012 11:54:02 AM , Rating: 1
Your Samsung Tab "joke" isn't funny at all. It's offensive, insensitive, and worst of all - it speaks volumes about your lack of taste... never mind discretion, which you don't even have.

A kid sells one of his eyes for a Retina Macbook Pro, and what do you call it? Oh, in classic Tony Swash-speak, "he made a splendid great deal!"

Pathetic human refuse.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By GenZ on 8/12/2012 11:59:30 AM , Rating: 1
Actually it is funny, when you understand why. Its a reference to Apples 'everyone is copying me' Android lawsuits. It's funny because its laughably improbable in anoyone but Apples eyes, amongst other reasons.

I've been on this site only a few hours, so I have no idea of this guys track record, but yeesh, you lot are being a bit harsh at a slightly off-color but funny joke aren't you?

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/12/2012 12:08:33 PM , Rating: 3
It's really not funny, sorry. And even more so coming from one of the biggest AppleTrolls on this site.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By nikon133 on 8/12/2012 6:25:40 PM , Rating: 2
Well... it does tell us about mental state of common Apple iPrentices, and how strong Jobs is with them. Or in them?

So... it is a bit of funny, though not for intended purpose.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By DJ Brandon on 8/13/2012 9:37:16 PM , Rating: 2
It's really not funny, sorry. And even more so coming from one of the biggest AppleTrolls on this site.

I feel like people use Troll as the grab at name to give people when they want to feel smarter than them and have nothing else to say.

I agree it wasn't at all funny. It was not in poor taste though. People need to stop being offended by everything and stop the constant walking on eggshells.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By ritualm on 8/12/2012 12:33:58 PM , Rating: 2
Unlike you, I understood the connection, and it's still not funny.

How about that kid being one of YOUR kids?

Now tell me if that is a funny joke.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Tony Swash on 8/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Tony Swash on 8/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By ritualm on 8/12/2012 4:12:12 PM , Rating: 2
The lice crawling inside your hair is smarter than you, whodathunkit.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/12/2012 4:49:20 PM , Rating: 2
I feel bad for his daughter Sophie and son, they have a complete nut job for a father.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Tony Swash on 8/12/2012 5:08:32 PM , Rating: 1
I don't have a daughter called Sophie??

Are you off your meds again?

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/12/2012 5:18:25 PM , Rating: 2

You trying to tell me this isn't you?

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/12/2012 5:40:27 PM , Rating: 2
And even if it isn't, which I believe it is, you are still a nutjob... anyone here can see that.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By McKillenstein on 8/12/2012 8:56:49 PM , Rating: 2
Now that was funny.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By DJ Brandon on 8/13/2012 9:41:06 PM , Rating: 1
As I will agree the joke wasn't funny I will not agree with everyone being such a damn sally and getting mad at you. I am so tired of the P.C. BS. Everyone tip toes on EVERYTHING and no one can take a damn joke anymore. Funny or not it was a JOKE. The child isn't dead. Frigging chill out people! The kid is obviously a complete and utter idiot. Joke away.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By TSS on 8/11/2012 5:16:11 AM , Rating: 3
I'm sorry but if you consider somebody who's willing to let one of his organs be cut out to get a new toy, especially an iProduct, not mentally retarded, then i don't know what is.

Nor would i consider anybody who would voluntarily let such a action be performed on him, of sound mind. It's not like they arrived on his doorstep "Right can we have your kidney then?".

It will never happen ofcourse, but i'd like to see this sued all the way to Apple themselves. For hyping the product up enough for this to happen. I mean how on earth did he ever come to belive those toys where more important then a kidney? In other words, why did he trade his kidney for an ipad/iphone and not a cheaper competitor's product?

Is an iPhone the thing to get, even if it costs you a kidney?

In the end though i feel no sorrow for the guy either. Like anybody cares what happens in china. The olympics are in london this year!

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By GotThumbs on 8/11/2012 10:29:34 AM , Rating: 3
While I agree its nuts...many people today have already given up free will to own an Iproduct. This is just a more extreme example of how stupid people have become in obtaining "Stuff" to be part of some group or to be seen in a different light in their mind. How much stuff do people buy today that they could truly live without. Lots of stuff. Just look around at the fashionistas and the tech stuff they own. Who in their right mind pays hundreds of dollars for a headset....but look at the number of Beats by DRA headsets. Of course any intelligent person knows that celebrity is given them as a marketing ploy.

Generally speaking.....people are dumber these days. Just take a look around you when your in public. Lack of respect for others is rampant.

Best wishes,

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By GenZ on 8/12/2012 11:56:04 AM , Rating: 2
Granted, the main motivation was an iProduct, but if you actually read, he made over $3000, in a place where his income amounted to $200 a day.

Sure he may have been immature enough to spend that on a toy, but that could have been life changing money over there if spent correctly.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By GenZ on 8/12/2012 12:00:25 PM , Rating: 2
Correction $200 a month

Typo, honest!

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By whitt107 on 8/11/2012 6:03:27 AM , Rating: 2
Shunn the non believer, Charlie, Shunnnnnnnnn...

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By GPig on 8/11/2012 6:22:16 AM , Rating: 2
They should have removed another organ whilst they were at it. We don't need people like this breeding.

Would have made a fantastic Darwin award.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By StevoLincolnite on 8/12/2012 1:53:27 PM , Rating: 2
Thankfully stupidity isn't genetic, I would have been completely out of luck otherwise.

RE: Embrace thy ignorance
By idiot77 on 8/12/2012 1:30:43 AM , Rating: 2
He was 17. Even in the US had had no legal authority to offer up his body parts, if were legal.


By DanNeely on 8/11/2012 1:15:01 AM , Rating: 5
... the defendants will die before the verdict is issued.

By whitt107 on 8/11/2012 5:59:40 AM , Rating: 1
"Lets go to Candy Mountain, Charlie... It's going to be an adventure... Charlie, we're going on an adventure..."

Some unicorns must have told him there was an ipad at Candy Mountain...

By Cheesew1z69 on 8/12/2012 3:37:25 PM , Rating: 1
By Reclaimer77 on 8/11/2012 9:47:50 AM , Rating: 2
Nice trolling. I'm sure there is a huge "Libertarian" movement in Communist China which allowed this incident to take place. /sarcasm

By Schadenfroh on 8/11/2012 10:39:32 AM , Rating: 2
Do not forget the nice invisible caste system where those that have ancestral homes from major cities are little princes and farmers / migrant workers are trash.

Also, Chinese personal vanity is at least on par with American vanity... shark fin soup anyone?

How much longer is China going to refer to itself as communist?

By michael2k on 8/11/2012 10:56:24 AM , Rating: 2
Probably for as long as we refer to ourselves as a republic?

The EU is republic, the US much less so.

By Schadenfroh on 8/11/2012 11:05:43 AM , Rating: 2
The EU is, at best, in the early stages of a confederation.

Our (American) Republic is turning into a full-fledged democracy... voting ourselves more and more of the treasury along the way.

By someguy123 on 8/11/2012 7:39:45 PM , Rating: 2
What are you even talking about? The old royal structures still standing are mostly preserved as works of art. Your average out of date home is being gradually plowed over for highrises.

Chinese vanity is on the same scale, though.

By GotThumbs on 8/11/2012 10:16:32 AM , Rating: 2
Not an issue since he recovered,
Lame joke,
The mother filed suit...for money....not criminal charges. Government is its government who should revoke their medical license for life.

You can't be that stupid since the boy IS olld enough to know better. I ask.....What has happened withself-responsibility in this world? People need to live with the choices they make. PERIOD!

By ritualm on 8/12/2012 11:47:51 AM , Rating: 2
There is money to be made, no matter how illegal and unethical it is. A criminal conviction imposed by the state is merely an opportunity cost.

The Chinese aren't stupid. The country itself might be full of communists, but its people are easily more capitalistic than your ilk this side of the planet. There are more real innovations on iPhone ripoffs and copycats than the real thing. It's a hint - and you still don't get it.

By eagle470 on 8/11/2012 3:50:52 PM , Rating: 1
Actually I'm sure we'd all think he was an idiot.

Teenagers are not quite adults.
By Azethoth on 8/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: Teenagers are not quite adults.
By GenZ on 8/12/2012 11:49:58 AM , Rating: 3
On the other hand, dude, he scored an iPad!!!

This is the response that signifies everything wrong with the world. Yes, it was made in jest, but the point that Apple represent such a status symbol that he was willing to give a kidney for it shows what a poor state of affairs the world is in.

RE: Teenagers are not quite adults.
By GenZ on 8/12/2012 11:50:48 AM , Rating: 2
To top it off that's along the lines of why he did it, because he thought his friends and people around him might say that.

RE: Teenagers are not quite adults.
By hughlle on 8/12/2012 12:53:36 PM , Rating: 2
Why 21? Why not 18?

RE: Teenagers are not quite adults.
By StevoLincolnite on 8/12/2012 1:48:17 PM , Rating: 2
I agree.
Age 18 is regarded as the year when a teenager becomes an adult across most of the planet.
It's also the age where you can legally drink, smoke and go clubbing in most countries, but funnily enough not in the USA.

RE: Teenagers are not quite adults.
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/12/2012 1:56:52 PM , Rating: 2
Yet, at 18 in the US, you can go join the military but you can't drink....insane..

RE: Teenagers are not quite adults.
By Spoelie on 8/13/12, Rating: 0
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/13/2012 6:30:47 PM , Rating: 2
Obviously you missed the point.....

By Azethoth on 8/12/2012 4:29:47 PM , Rating: 2
At 18 various countries still withhold some rights from you. I am not aware of restrictions that last past 21. Also, it is all a sliding scale. 12 year olds: definitely not adult. 16 year olds: getting closer and can be tried as adults etc. 18 year olds: very few if any restrictions depending on where you live.

RE: Teenagers are not quite adults.
By probedb on 8/13/2012 6:26:05 AM , Rating: 2
Or 18 in many other parts of the world.

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