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Spacecraft launching into space
China celebrates another successful manned shuttle launch into space

China successfully launched its Shenzhou VII spacecraft into orbit last night, with three Chinese astronauts ready to carry out the country's third manned space mission.

During the scheduled three-day mission in space, China ground officials expect the taikonauts to carry out the ambitious space program's first space walk.  Furthermore, a different astronaut will wear a reported $4.4 million space suit that was designed and manufactured in China with no help from foreigners.

The taikonauts will share a 14-cubic-meter workspace while in space, which will be the same amount of cramped space two taikonauts shared during the Shenzhou 6 space mission.

The Chinese government is investing billions of dollars into a space program that has developed quickly and has had three manned launches in the past five years.  China plans to create its own space station by 2020, and hopes to put a man on the moon shortly thereafter.

The military-operated space program last year launched a lunar probe, which was the first step of a three-part operation for China to head to the moon.  NASA also has plans to return to the moon by 2020, although uncertainty over the development of Orion has made observers question if the United States will be able to make it back to the moon in 12 years.

NASA Administrator Michael Griffin previously admitted China is more likely to return to the moon before anyone else.

The United States and Russia remain the only two nations to conduct spacewalks, and China joining the list will be historic, government officials said in a prepared statement.



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Are you sure?
RE: Are you sure?
By aegisofrime on 9/26/2008 8:42:43 AM , Rating: 3
LOL great find .
That should give the moon landing conspiracy theorists a new topic to chew on !


RE: Are you sure?
By Bateluer on 9/26/2008 8:53:08 AM , Rating: 2
Oops. Probably the strongest fodder for a fake space launch though. :p


RE: Are you sure?
By AnnihilatorX on 9/26/2008 9:00:39 AM , Rating: 3
So the taikonauts had scripts to remember that they must report acquiring the target 12 seconds ahead of the predicted time?


RE: Are you sure?
By lco45 on 9/26/2008 9:15:43 AM , Rating: 6
Still, if I owned my own country that's how I'd run my propaganda machine.

Luke


RE: Are you sure?
By isorfir on 9/26/2008 9:17:27 AM , Rating: 3
If my eyes don't fail me, according to the flag that rocket, it appears as though the Chinese are launching a U.S. rocket as well.


RE: Are you sure?
By Spivonious on 9/26/2008 9:46:16 AM , Rating: 2
Not unless the U.S. flag is all red, and the U.S. rocket has Chinese letters on the side.


RE: Are you sure?
By isorfir on 9/26/2008 9:55:08 AM , Rating: 2
Oh, I can click it and it shows me a bigger picture. How novel.

Maybe I was just seeing what I wanted to be seeing :)


RE: Are you sure?
By Aloonatic on 9/26/2008 10:02:04 AM , Rating: 3
The way western economies are going the 2 might be the same and look like that soon anyway :)


RE: Are you sure?
By kontorotsui on 9/26/2008 12:35:08 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Not unless the U.S. flag is all red, and the U.S. rocket has Chinese letters on the side.


All in good time, all in good time.


RE: Are you sure?
By Aloonatic on 9/26/2008 9:47:30 AM , Rating: 2
I think you need to get your eyes examined? :-s


RE: Are you sure?
By jconan on 9/26/2008 9:23:49 PM , Rating: 2
(a) Looks like the journalist was in a hurry to complete his/her assignment ahead of time.
(b) or maybe was trying to copy Jayson Blair's reporting style. That sure isn't a good example for journalists for pretexting or scripting events before it happened
(c) The journalist came back from the future...


RE: Are you sure?
By crystal clear on 9/27/2008 6:36:27 AM , Rating: 2
With photo shop everything is possible - ask Iran


RE: Are you sure?
By Megadeth on 9/27/2008 9:23:16 AM , Rating: 2
After hearing Obama reference the "successful" launch from China in the debate last night, all I could think about was the link posted here! LOL!


RE: Are you sure?
By eman007 on 9/28/2008 4:34:42 PM , Rating: 1
@ therealnickdanger.
Hey, howd you get a rating of 6? its the first I'm seeing.


Well...
By KeplersTwinkie on 9/26/2008 8:04:36 AM , Rating: 2
I think its neat




RE: Well...
By aegisofrime on 9/26/08, Rating: 0
RE: Well...
By Sandok on 9/26/2008 8:42:36 AM , Rating: 3
... Ummm the US already got to the moon.

Anyways, China isn't "evil" per say and honestly, space doesn't care who goes up there.

I'm all for the country that actually has the balls to do what it has planned.


RE: Well...
By DeepBlue1975 on 9/26/2008 8:42:38 AM , Rating: 4
I prefer a world not dominated by any particular country.

Anyway I firmly believe the globalization phenomena which is now pretty obvious when it comes to economical matters, will extend to political and social matters over the long term, in such a way that a centralized world government will appear at some point.
Meanwhile, cultural barriers continue to loose their sharpness, very slowly, but steadily.


RE: Well...
By The0ne on 9/26/2008 10:12:37 AM , Rating: 2
While I like US myself I find myself from time to time reminding myself that even though it is better than some countries to live in it isn't perfect. Bush is a prime example of this. So be careful on what you wish for. US dominance can be scary.


RE: Well...
By mles1551 on 9/26/2008 10:43:01 AM , Rating: 5
It isn't just Bush. How about our self serving Congressmen that do whatever the lobbyists tell them?
We are the last nation that needs to be pushing our "democracy" on the world.


RE: Well...
By mindless1 on 9/26/2008 10:26:56 PM , Rating: 2
Democracy works despite these problems, did you think other countries didn't have any corruption? Perhaps they had better media control and citizens who don't dare say anything about it.


RE: Well...
By nofranchise on 9/29/2008 4:32:09 AM , Rating: 1
Other countries have corruption. But there are a few social-democratic nations with next to no corruption:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781359.html

http://www.transparency.org/news_room/in_focus/200...

What you want is a nation in which being corrupt has no or little benefit.

Coincidentally some of these same nations are also considered the best places to invest...
http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/26/denmark-ireland-f...

Some of the more "corrupt" nations score pretty high here as well for other reasons.


RE: Well...
By Felofasofa on 9/26/2008 9:00:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I really hope the USA gets its act together and maintain their dominance in space .

With the rapid unraveling of the American economy you'll be lucky to be able to afford the luxury of a space program at all, let alone dominate. These things are best left to the people that can properly fund it, such as the Chinese.


RE: Well...
By Ringold on 9/26/2008 9:59:49 PM , Rating: 3
I'd like to see any other country easily be able to sneeze $700b. We don't even have to worry about being able to afford that kind of short term outlay, we simply worry over how it's deployed. That's 5% of our GDP; for China, that sum would be 22%. They might be able to pull that off, but they'd gag pretty hard in the process. Also, don't confuse Wall Street with Main Street just yet; compare our unemployment with the Euro-zone and tell me who is "unraveling."

The rumors of America's demise are being greatly exaggerated.


RE: Well...
By Min Jia on 9/26/2008 10:24:17 PM , Rating: 2
Don't forget China owns the US.


RE: Well...
By Ringold on 9/27/2008 12:07:03 AM , Rating: 1
Don't forget that ownership of which you vaguely refer to, treasury securities, is next to meaningless. Japan actually holds more anyway, and Europe collectively probably holds more than China as well.

Next baseless paranoid fear?


RE: Well...
By Min Jia on 9/27/2008 12:11:46 AM , Rating: 2
Used to be Japan, but not any more LOL. Japan has reduced their holdings already. China is the biggest creditor of the US right now. You need to update yourself. Also, who do you think is going to finance your 700b for you? China and other countries.


RE: Well...
By Ringold on 9/27/2008 11:49:29 PM , Rating: 2
I hate when people mount their horse as if they know something I don't.

http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

Wikipedia also has similar data.

Check your own data next time before telling me to check mine, eh? Google isn't exactly a complex instrument to use.


RE: Well...
By Min Jia on 9/27/2008 12:25:01 AM , Rating: 2
Oh, and don't forget China has US 1.8 trillion crash in foreign reserve, in addtion to the 400b in US Treasury bills.


RE: Well...
By Ringold on 9/27/2008 11:58:32 PM , Rating: 1
1.8 trillion, out of 7.6 trillion total. Relevance?

It doesn't make a lot of sense why people fear this. A lot of countries use USD on the side, but only one main country uses it exclusively, and that is America. Those dollars ultimately must, therefore, just find there way back in to our economy at some point or another, as that is all they are useful for.


RE: Well...
By foolsgambit11 on 9/27/2008 3:02:07 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, the fear is a little paranoid. But the issue is real. The issue, however, is with the American people and the American government, not with China. It doesn't matter who your creditor is until you default. If Americans (as individuals) could save, we could finance much of our own debt. If America (as a government) could save, we could pay off the debts. China is nothing but an enabler for American spendthrifts.

Blame the gambler, not the house.


RE: Well...
By Felofasofa on 9/26/2008 9:00:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I really hope the USA gets its act together and maintain their dominance in space .

With the rapid unraveling of the American economy you'll be lucky to be able to afford the luxury of a space program at all, let alone dominate. These things are best left to the people that can properly fund it, such as the Chinese.


I for One
By ikkeman2 on 9/26/2008 8:42:28 AM , Rating: 1
I for one would like to welcome our new chinese overlords!

The final goal pf the chinese space program is reportedly to establish a space-based chain of take-away food sattelites. Ordered online, and shot directly to your GPS location.
The friction heat would negate the need foor cooks in space. Those diabolical chinamen!




RE: I for One
By AnnihilatorX on 9/26/2008 8:59:01 AM , Rating: 2
I am Chinese and I absolutely hate Chinese Takeaway. None of them is authentic Chinese food, and so much variance on the quality is diluting the culture of Chinese food. To a Westerner Chinese food is that served by Chinese takeaways. That's plain wrong. It's absolutely impossible to find authentic Chinese food overseas.


RE: I for One
By Basilisk on 9/26/2008 9:35:33 AM , Rating: 2
I'm American, of Scottish/German/English genes, and I have to disagree in part: while Chinese take-out is deplorable in the U.S., you CAN get extraordinary, authentic Chinese food here just by dropping in on my friends, Wei Lu & her mom!! Their stuffed hot peppers, anise beef/pork/chicken, soy-beans & pork, and ribs are to die for -- different and better than ANY Chinese restaurant fare. Oh, yeah... that's the catch... I'd have to give you their home address and then they'd stop feeding me: me not THAT stupid! :P (WHY is it that Chinese restaurants utterly lack these tasty [Nanjing?] dishes???)


RE: I for One
By Min Jia on 9/26/2008 10:21:57 AM , Rating: 2
Do they make shark fin soup?


RE: I for One
By kingpotnoodle on 9/26/2008 9:44:20 AM , Rating: 2
Same is true of most foods out of their home country...

Pizza & pasta in Italy is different... Fish&Chips will never be served the same in another country as on the sea front in Southend... I'm sure Americans do a burger like nobody else...


RE: I for One
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 9/26/2008 11:59:35 AM , Rating: 2
Americans do an excellent burger at several places. It's an excellent dish.


RE: I for One
By Oregonian2 on 9/26/2008 1:58:20 PM , Rating: 2
Well, it depends where one goes to (and knowing just where to go for what -- and "when" too for things seasonal in order to get first quality fresh ingredients).

As to fish&chips, I've had absolutely great versions (strangely, long ago had some really good stuff at a restaurant near the London Bridge (in Arizona)) and absolutely horrid stuff at other places -- and everywhere inbetween.

Our local Chinese food places vary wildly in the quality of food (but better in our local "Chinatown" district, generally speaking). And although most of them are sit-down restaurants, I think one can order "take-away" from any of them.

Although I've not personally visited China (as of yet) I know a number of other people who have. Their reports is that Chinese food varies in quality quite widely there too -- not every single food place in China is of equal impeccable quality (from their reports).


RE: I for One
By Oregonian2 on 9/26/2008 2:04:12 PM , Rating: 2
P.S. - I also had been taken to small Chinese restaurants in the SF Bay area some time ago where they had an "American menu" and the real "Chinese menu" where the really good stuff is. I observed that one may have to ask for the good menu in Chinese though (I was a guest of someone who could and did). :-)


RE: I for One
By stonemetal on 9/26/2008 1:14:07 PM , Rating: 2
Actually it is pretty easy to get real chinese food from a chinese takeaway place. You just have to order in advance so they can buy the real stuff. Usually it means the owners end up cooking for you instead of the regular staff. My wife used to work at a chinese run CPA firm, so they had authentic chinese food quite often.


RE: I for One
By SlipDizzy on 9/26/2008 9:37:37 AM , Rating: 3
So you're saying that General Tso will rule my world as he has ruled my taste buds?


RE: I for One
By Mikescool on 9/28/2008 1:23:33 PM , Rating: 2
HAHA LOL, best post ever.

How do i give people +rep? Sorry i'm new to this.


is the ship piloted by....
By Beavermatic on 9/26/2008 1:44:06 PM , Rating: 2
UNDERAGE GIRLS???!!!

if so, it doesnt count.




RE: is the ship piloted by....
By SavagePotato on 9/26/2008 6:42:10 PM , Rating: 2
Chinese spacecraft not Japanese.


RE: is the ship piloted by....
By Diesel Donkey on 9/27/2008 12:54:44 AM , Rating: 2
RE: is the ship piloted by....
By yaju on 9/28/2008 1:31:15 PM , Rating: 2
Actually US & Russia shud not consider this events seriously coz d other world is soon catching up. Countries like india, israel are also planning for future lunar projects.
india plans to put a rover on moon by 2011 n man by 2018, 2years ahead of china.So one shud not be totally surprised if they achieve this on time or even sooner


Made in China.
By Integral9 on 9/30/2008 8:05:07 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
designed and manufactured in China with no help from foreigners.

Yeah, right. Considering that's coming from the country that has stolen or bought every technological achievement of the 20th century, I'll wait and see if it's full of lead paint or melamine before I believe it.




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