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Chinese authorities have shut down 53 web sites in the government's latest crackdown on piracy and porn

A number of domestic porn and piracy sites have been shut down by the Chinese government in a continued battle against illicit content.  Along with shutting down the web sites, a number of people were arrested during the raids.  Two people were "detained" because they were allegedly making money by running a pirated game.  Another site was fined around $12,000 for allowing users to download pirated movies.  Seven people were also arrested after police found 431,630 pirated books in a warehouse in the Guangdong province.   

China has shut down web sites and arrested people for pirating movies, software and music in the past.  Even with police raids and fines, many piracy rings continue to freely operate in China, which is arguably the largest source of software piracy in the world.

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US market for piracy is far greater.
By CryptoQuick on 3/24/2006 11:09:33 AM , Rating: 2
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... China, which is arguably the largest source of software piracy in the world.

I don't have any information regarding the source of pirated material, but in terms of the market for pirated materials, and the losses incurred by such materials, are readily available from Havocscope.
http://www.havocscope.com/Counterf eit/software.htm
The United States is, by far, the highest on that list; $6.5 billion for the US, followed by $1.5 billion in China.
Piracy doesn't matter if it doesn't keep a person from buying the legitimate product. Thus, it doesn't matter if people are making the material; rather, it matters that people are getting it, and even buying it, since they are consumers that will not be buying from the people who made the content.




RE: US market for piracy is far greater.
By Fox5 on 3/24/2006 12:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
That link doesn't work.
Anyhow, I thought most pirated products and cheap knock offs were produced in China, and then shipped to other countries.

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Authorities closed 53 websites with pornographic or violent content, Xinhua said, without giving details.


Wait, so were they closing down piracy, or porn sites and sites with violent content, such as the Tiananmen Square massacre.


By masher2 (blog) on 3/24/2006 12:59:07 PM , Rating: 2
> "Anyhow, I thought most pirated products and cheap knock offs were produced in China"

China is indeed the major source of counterfeit products (not just software piracy)-- as anyone whose been to the region can attest.


RE: US market for piracy is far greater.
By masher2 (blog) on 3/24/2006 12:58:12 PM , Rating: 4
> "The United States is, by far, the highest on that list; $6.5 billion for the US, followed by $1.5 billion in China. "

It's really embarrassing when a person doesn't even understand their own links.

Your link details the total economic impact TO US companies from software piracy. It doesn't in any way claim the US is the source of the piracy.


RE: US market for piracy is far greater.
By CryptoQuick on 3/24/2006 6:00:33 PM , Rating: 2
And it is equally embarrassing when people don't even bother to carefully read the post they're criticizing. I quote what I said:
quote:
I don't have any information regarding the source of pirated material,

You imply that I say the US is the source of the counterfeit material. I did no such thing. In fact, I said that I had no information regarding the source.
In fact, Havocscope says that the impact is to US companies, and I will quote again:
quote:
but in terms of the market for pirated materials, and the losses incurred by such materials, are readily available from Havocscope.
The United States is, by far, the highest on that list; $6.5 billion for the US, followed by $1.5 billion in China.

As I said, "The losses incurred by such materials."

At any rate, the quote is from the Business Software Alliance, and I don't think they could put a number to the "losses incurred;" rather, they should put a number to the "market value" of counterfeit goods, since they never really lost anything but potential customers to pirates. Who knows if every one of those people that bought stolen software would buy the software from the original company if piracy didn't exist?

Fixed link: http://www.havocscope.com/Counterf eit/software.htm


RE: US market for piracy is far greater.
By CryptoQuick on 3/24/2006 6:02:11 PM , Rating: 2
There seems to be a bug in the software here that places spaces in the URLs.


By PLaYaHaTeD on 3/24/2006 8:27:04 PM , Rating: 2
It's not a bug, it's the "Randomly make you look like an ass" functionality, a feature that the editors often use in their articles.


RE: US market for piracy is far greater.
By masher2 (blog) on 3/25/2006 1:25:32 AM , Rating: 2
> "You imply that I say the US is the source of the counterfeit material..."

No I didn't. You said, "but in terms of the market for pirated materials...". However your link speaks of neither sources nor markets, but simply the total economic impact to a nation.

Furthermore your addressing the prior poster's remark about China being the largest offender with a reply that claimed the top spot for the Us, certainly made it appear you were trying to refute his statement.

> "Who knows if every one of those people that bought stolen software would buy the software from the original company if piracy didn't exist? "

I imagine most people stealing a new Porsche probably wouldn't have bought one either. Its still theft.






RE: US market for piracy is far greater.
By mindless1 on 3/25/2006 11:41:51 AM , Rating: 2
Surprisingly, most of your post is completely right.

Then you fall down at the end. Not it's NOT "still theft", piracy is NOT theft. Yes, it's illegal. Many things are, including theft but it's NOT theft.


By masher2 (blog) on 3/26/2006 7:14:08 PM , Rating: 2
> "piracy is NOT theft..."

It fits the dictionary definition fully and completely. Intellectual property is still property, and piracy is the purloining of IP without consent.


Token gesture, ...
By koomo on 3/24/2006 8:47:42 AM , Rating: 4
failure to pay graft, or were these people the competition?




RE: Token gesture, ...
By marvdmartian on 3/24/2006 8:58:32 AM , Rating: 2
Or, possibly, they were carrying the kind of democratic "filth" that any good communist country is inherently afraid of, ya know?


RE: Token gesture, ...
By masher2 (blog) on 3/24/2006 10:00:12 AM , Rating: 4
The only people actually arrested were those pirating software from Shanda...a Chinese company.


RE: Token gesture, ...
By Staples on 3/24/2006 12:59:43 PM , Rating: 2
It wouldn't surprise me. They care about piracy all of a sudden? I think there is more to it than just that.


Good for them
By Hacp on 3/24/2006 6:30:29 AM , Rating: 4
Now fix the piracy rampant in retail stores.




Just the tip of the iceberg...
By masher2 (blog) on 3/24/2006 7:34:06 AM , Rating: 3
Half a million pirated books....just in one warehouse.

Yeah, piracy never affects sales. I buy that. :|




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