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  (Source: washingtonpost.com)
However, China isn't blaming Washington for the attacks -- it's looking for better solutions to fight hacking between the U.S. and China

A Chinese security official said that he has proof of several U.S. cyber attacks launched against China, and that there needs to be a better way of communicating these attacks between the two. 

Huang Chengqing, director of the National Computer Network Emergency Response Technical Team/Coordination Center of China (CNCERT), said that the U.S. uses the media to heighten cyber security concerns about hacks from China without discussing it with the country first.

"We have mountains of data, if we wanted to accuse the U.S., but it's not helpful in solving the problem," said Chengqing. "They advocated cases that they never let us know about. Some cases can be addressed if they had talked to us, why not let us know? It is not a constructive train of thought to solve problems." 

Chengqing went on to say that CNCERT has been cooperating with the U.S. and promptly addressed 32 Internet security cases from the U.S. (most were taken care of, with the exception of a few that didn't have enough information). 

Chengqing added that U.S.-launched cyber attacks are just as critical as those accused of coming from China. According to CNCERT, 4,062 U.S.-based computer servers attacked 2.91 million mainframe computers in China. 

However, China isn't blaming Washington for the attacks. Instead, it's looking for better solutions to fight hacking between the U.S. and China. 

U.S. President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping are expected to meet in California this week, where cyber security is expected to be discussed. Obama plans to tell Jinping that the responsibility for any cyber attacks from China will be placed on Beijing's shoulders.

Back in March of this year, National Security Adviser Thomas Donilo warned that cyber attacks from China were hurting relations between the two, and that Obama wanted a better relationship with the country. 

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said that China was willing to "have constructive dialogue and cooperation on this issue with the international community including the United States to maintain the security, openness and peace of the Internet."

Source: Reuters



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By puter_geek_00 on 6/5/2013 5:37:50 PM , Rating: 2
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However, China isn't blaming Washington for the attacks


Because China is smart enought to know that any decent hackers in the US are not working for the government... Washington doesn't hire hackers, they prosecute them.




By Schadenfroh on 6/5/2013 5:51:44 PM , Rating: 5
I'm sure Flame and Stuxnet were developed without the US government's help...


By CZroe on 6/5/2013 7:15:46 PM , Rating: 2
But they weren't used against China either.


By dgingerich on 6/5/2013 7:30:37 PM , Rating: 4
You don't know much about the NSA and CIA recruiting methods, do you? Oh, they have some good hackers, not the best, but quite good. The best typically lack moral standing and are too unpredictable, which the CIA and NSA wouldn't want. So, they do prosecute those guys. However, there are some guys who are quite imaginative and adaptable, but have the moral strength to work for a higher objective than their own wallets. Those guys will often work for the NSA and CIA.

Most of the people in those agencies work for the good of the people and the stability of the country. They are good people, patriots who believe in this form of government. They aren't the evil plotters trying to undermine the country like so many like to think. However, these days they need to be pointing their investigations toward the Executive branch to see the big threat to this country.


By boeush on 6/5/2013 11:30:47 PM , Rating: 2
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Packets are speech, if it leaves your computer it should be protected. If somebody else's computer is stupid enough to jump off a bridge when your computer tells it too, how is that your fault?
Gee, let's see here. Suppose I intercept and hack the radio exchange between your expensive luxury car and the keyfob you used to open/start it. Then while you aren't around, I hack your car open, hack its motor started, and drive off into the wide blue yonder. How is it my fault that your car wasn't sufficiently secured? Now substitute car for confidential data; same thing really...

Must admit, it had never before occurred to me that theft and mayhem must be the fault of the victim rather than the perpetrator...


By Dr of crap on 6/6/2013 12:36:39 PM , Rating: 1
THAT is the thinking of the new generation and the down fall of our society!

It's never YOUR fault for anything, right?


By boeush on 6/6/2013 3:05:03 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah, like for instance when some gangbanger pops a cap in your ass, it's YOUR fault for being in the way of that bullet...

Or for instance, when your house gets robbed, it's YOUR fault you weren't there to shoot the robbers...

Or for example, when your wallet gets stolen by a pickpocket, it's YOUR fault that you weren't paying attention and/or were out in a public space and/or didn't chain that wallet to your nut sack...

The "down fall" (sic) of our society, indeed: when the victim is blamed for the crime.


By Jaybus on 6/6/2013 11:51:49 AM , Rating: 2
Nothing new. Way back in the 80's, the CIA was on campus (trying) to recruit me and several of my fellow CS classmates. They didn't get me or anyone that I knew, AFAIK. There are no doubt a few who took the job for altruistic reasons, but there are many more who took it because they didn't get any higher paying offers from the private sector. No doubt China has the same issue. And certainly nobody wants a loose canon, including the governments of the US and China, or any other nation.


By ianweck on 6/6/2013 3:39:50 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder how many of the attacks coming from the U.S. are retaliatory. I'd like to know that information. Because if those 4,000+ attacks are retaliatory I say good job.


well
By kleinma on 6/5/2013 5:13:11 PM , Rating: 3
Is it hacking if the data the US finds is simply just the data the Chinese stole already from them?




RE: well
By BRB29 on 6/6/2013 9:02:55 AM , Rating: 2
Technically, yes. It's not like they're going to leave that data unsecured and you just accidentally stumble on it.

Is it stealing is what you meant. No it's not if it was ours to begin with.


RE: well
By Mitch101 on 6/6/2013 10:48:05 AM , Rating: 2
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It's not like they're going to leave that data unsecured and you just accidentally stumble on it

You mean China will secure their data even if its stolen unlike the US did properly.


...mainframes?
By Motoman on 6/5/2013 5:32:52 PM , Rating: 1
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According to CNCERT, 4,062 U.S.-based computer servers attacked 2.91 million mainframe computers in China.


Mainframes, huh? Didn't think they could even be connected to the internet. Forget hacking...what you need to do is go in and shuffle their punchcards.




RE: ...mainframes?
By name99 on 6/5/2013 5:54:17 PM , Rating: 3
You clearly are an expert on how mainframes have evolved since 1965...

Try doing a web search for z-series.


...
By BRB29 on 6/5/2013 5:41:15 PM , Rating: 1
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Obama plans to tell Jinping that the responsibility for any cyber attacks from China will be placed on Beijing's shoulders.


Now that China knows the plan and what will be said. Why waste money to go there at all?




RE: ...
By Jaybus on 6/6/2013 11:58:29 AM , Rating: 2
Are you seriously asking if the most liberal US President ever, in office during the largest deficit gain in US history, will waste money?


Tomorrow never dies
By zhivaji on 6/5/2013 8:14:24 PM , Rating: 2
This is Elliot Carver's handiwork. We need Bond to stop him before this becomes all out war..




Translation:
By inperfectdarkness on 6/6/2013 4:37:06 AM , Rating: 2
"China would like to prepare a statement of refute/defense before the USA publicizes Chinese cyberattacks on the USA. Additionally, we would like to give the USA the false impression of cooperation for mutual benefit in the prevention of cyberattacks. Doing so will allow us to leverage the good will of the USA while we secretly continue subterfuge and espionage. We have no intention to forgo our key advantage against the USA--who represents the only legitimate roadblock to Chinese forcible occupation of every territory in the South-China-Sea & beyond. We will continue to extend the handshake of good-will while clutching the proverbial dagger behind our back."

Sincerely,

DPRK & PLA




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