quote: a big first step in the country's three-step space program that hopes to put an astronaut on the moon by 2020.
quote: They claim to have reached the moon yet millions live in poverty
quote: there is no free education or medicine
quote: And lets not bring Clinton into WMD's. He started a process trying to get our inspectors in to Iraq to search for WMD's. At the time it all came to a head Bush knew there were none, Bush's people knew there were none, even Colin Powell told Bush there were none, and there was no justification to go in. Bush told congress and the rest of the world there were WMD's when there was none.
quote: "When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for. That is, at the end of the first Gulf War, we knew what he had. We knew what was destroyed in all the inspection processes and that was a lot. And then we bombed with the British for four days in 1998. We might have gotten it all; we might have gotten half of it; we might have gotten none of it. But we didn't know. So I thought it was prudent for the president to go to the U.N. and for the U.N. to say you got to let these inspectors in, and this time if you don't cooperate the penalty could be regime change, not just continued sanctions."
quote: There used to be an old rule that *real* journalists lived by: 'All governments are run by liars, and nothing they say should be believed.' We've come a long way from those days, to a media that has been cowed into submission and accepting the 'official story.' Thank the gods for Bob Drogin and his refusal to believe. It's journalists like him and books like CURVEBALL that give many of us a sliver of hope that we can turn things around. --Michael Moore, Director of "Fahrenheit 9/11," and "Sicko"
quote: UN Weapons inspectors - you mean some of the ones that are from France - who has trade agreements (oil & weapons) with these terrorist countries? Yeah, lets believe them.
quote: Right... those mobile bio weapons labs... where are they?
quote: But in this case they were absolutely right,
quote: Invading would have been stupid even if Saddam DID have these weapons, because he had no means of getting them to the US.
quote: And your evidence for this is what?! Unless you have proof you're just guessing.
quote: You forget that there are American companies that are making money in their place. Contractors tasked with rebuilding the infrastructure we ourselves destroyed. So what you're saying is, we merely kicked them out, to make money ourselves... That doesn't exactly look good now does it.
quote: I believe this is speculation. There's no evidence of a link between Saddam and AlQueda for example. As much as some people want you to believe there is. And why would there be? He was a secular leader, they are religious fanatics. They'd love to destroy him themselves.
quote: You're joking right? I don't have the exact numbers (because no one knows for sure how many civilians have died so far, but if you believe that the situation there right now is better then it was when Saddam was in charge you're crazy. Rape rooms are bad, but having your head blown off when you're shopping for veggies at the local market is a bit worse no? Dozens of civilians are dying every single day. Even running water is a problem in some places, I'm sure the electrical grid suffered a lot of damage as well and so on. Every day life is now a challenge for countless people. I'd say they have bigger problems.
quote: Funny, I remember a certain George Bush had an over 90% approval raiting after 9/11. Since clinton was out of office indeed...
quote: I have a better idea... you tell me what's going good about the war. How safer we are, how terrorism is reduced etc...
quote: Who cares about liberals or not liberals.
quote: So you will keep trusting the same people who's claims have been proven to be wrong. Wow, talk about staying the course
quote: Unless of course you believe that we'll get some oil out of this... but if you don't (I don't anyway) you can't deny that contractors are making a profit from this, no it's the iraqis who are paying them, it's american tax payers. But that doesn't matter. If you see nothing wrong with this, then you shouldn't be too upset about the french trying to make money there. By your logic they were only doing what's best for them.
quote: Yes, and so did Germany, but then so did we! Recall that Saddam was fighting a war against Iran during the 80s. Back then it was in the US best interest to arm him because Iran was seen as a big enemy. Just like the CIA armed the taliban at the same time. None of that matters though because it looks like most of the weapons were destroyed shortly after the first gulf war.
quote: Correction... Saddam was not even religious. It wasn't in his best interest.
quote: If you really believe that nonsense, then you have a problem... If he's a monster, and we armed that monster then that blood is on our hands too.
quote: I happen to remember that the Soviet Union was saying EXACTLY the same thing in the 80s when they invaded afghanistan. In fact they actually did build schools and women did get more rights (because the soviets were against religion). The locals still hated them though.
quote: We have made their life MORE miserable.
quote: Just because nothing has happened doesn't mean that alqueda isn't scheming something. It takes years for a plot to happen. It doesn't mean there aren't sleeper cells right here either.
quote: It's nice to see that the government propaganda doesn't go wasted on you. There's a lot of false information circulated courtesy of the Bush II.
quote: Iran is only a threat to Neo-con agendas, hence there need to create a perceived threat that dose not exist.
quote: I know it's significant because only us and Russia have done it, but we did it before I was even born.
quote: imagine if china spends a fraction of their military budget on space exploration and the development of their space program, it would still probably be 3 to 4 times larger than ours.
quote: According to a government official, China wants to become part of the international space station project with more than a dozen other participating nations
quote: I couldn't help but chuckle. I know it's significant because only us and Russia have done it, but we did it before I was even born.
quote: This is indeed a sign that balance world power is rapidly tipping in favour of China in this point in time.
quote: The fact in this case is that China is just now trying to do what the US did in 1969.
quote: and has plans to possibly build its own aircraft carrier in space.
quote: Whats so special about space anyway?
quote: And this is somehow different from the exploration of the world by european powers in the 15-16th century? Different era, same principle.
quote: Except there's no intelligent natives on Mars.
quote: Except there's no natives on Mars.
quote: Well, first of all did the US really go to the moon? Really?
quote: do you really think that the US is going to be civil to China for stealling it's thunder?
quote: Of course the US keeps it's mouth shut because China is happy to make all the merchandise to keep the Walmarts full...
quote: Plus, didn't the US state that it had sole domain over outer space?