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Government officials want search engines to reduce the amount of porn they link to

The Chinese government launched a crackdown against internet adult pornographic content by requesting search engine companies reduce the amount of web sites linking to all sexual content.

Government officials criticized Google and China's Baidu search engines, along with 17 others, calling for them to aggressively filter all sexual content.  Companies that do not comply with the threat risk heavy fines or being booted out of China.

Pornography is illegal in China, but the content proliferates into the country as more Chinese citizens begin to get Internet access.  A woman last month was arrested after she reportedly posted an explicit video of herself on the internet.

A collection of seven agencies, including the Ministry of Public Security, have banded together in an effort "to purify the Internet's cultural environment and protect the healthy development of minors."  The China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Center noticed that more web sites, including Google.cn, collects large amounts of links to pornographic web sites.

Baidu, Google -- the No. 2 search engine in China, trailing only Baidu -- NetEase, Sohu, and Sina were also named on the list created by the government.  Google doesn't attempt to censor pornographic search results or images in China, and uses an automatic filter and a red-flag system.

Search engines are expected to censor objectionable content, and then the government uses a massive Internet filtering system to eliminate material that slips through the cracks.  The Chinese government is well known for restricting and censoring internet content to its 253 million Internet users throughout the country.  

China's efforts to "control and censor the internet, and the government had tightened restrictions on freedom of speech and the domestic press" has increased, a U.S. State Department report published last year.

Intelligence analysts wondered if this small crackdown on porn content will lead to a bigger internet crackdown in the future.



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yea china, sausage party land needs no porn
By Guttersnipe on 1/6/2009 10:29:32 PM , Rating: 4
the last thing they need is a release for all the pent up sexual frustration that comes from having too many dudes and too few chicks. lol:)




RE: yea china, sausage party land needs no porn
By bjacobson on 1/6/2009 10:32:30 PM , Rating: 5
Better to channel that into productivity for the state like George Orwell did with 1984.


RE: yea china, sausage party land needs no porn
By cheetah2k on 1/7/2009 1:13:50 AM , Rating: 4
China is only doing this as it doesnt generate revenue within China itself, as a majority of porn sites reside in the US and abroad.

If they (the Chinese Government) were really serious, they would be focusing on all of the Karoke bars (brothels) and massage parlors (also brothels) that exploit poor under-age girls and encourages the spread of HIV/Aids amongst the younger generation of Chinese. When I was in China, such establishments were rife and pretty much on every street corner, not to mention the prostitutes waiting in every drinks bar waiting to earn their keep.

Looking at this in a different angle, getting rid of porn, while probably better off for the chinese economy, will have a far greater negative socio-economic effect on the people.


RE: yea china, sausage party land needs no porn
By Samus on 1/7/2009 2:42:30 AM , Rating: 2
According to your logic, I think getting rid of porn will escalate the prostitution/teen exploitation problems they already have. However, if you want to think of it as a way of boosting the economy by pumping money into the system, thats logical, but totally fucked.


By TomCorelis on 1/7/2009 4:40:28 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
but totally ....ed.
Nice pun... :-)


RE: yea china, sausage party land needs no porn
By majBUZZ on 1/6/2009 11:28:18 PM , Rating: 2
1,328,230,000 (19.68% of world population) people in China (2007 est.) By doing this is it gona reduce population or increase it? Getting rid of it will cause (in theory) men to have more sex with their wife.


RE: yea china, sausage party land needs no porn
By Fireshade on 1/7/2009 7:55:42 AM , Rating: 3
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Getting rid of it will cause (in theory) men to have more sex with their wife.

Given they have a wife.
Since the one-child policy the gender balance in China has been become skewed. The ratio is now 1.19:1 (boys:girls). Think of it: up to 247 million males will not find a wife.


By FITCamaro on 1/7/2009 8:37:03 AM , Rating: 2
It's good for the rest of the world. Means China's population isn't sustainable.


RE: yea china, sausage party land needs no porn
By Guyver on 1/7/2009 10:55:53 AM , Rating: 2
A lot of those guys are trying to find wives from other countries like Japan, Korea, Thailand, Russia, etc.

The reason why the male to female ratio is skewed the way it is, is partially due to the one-child policy. The other factor is in Asian societies the eldest son takes care of his parents when the parents get old and weak. Essentially Asian Social Security. The daughter who gets married off is by tradition required to support her husband's parents.

Because of this, many Chinese couples are trying to find out if they're getting a boy or a girl. Many of which abort their baby if they find out it's going to be a girl. Sad but true.

I read somewhere once that under normal circumstances, female babies have a lower mortality rate than male ones... so you'd think that the ratio would be balanced out or skewed towards a greater female population. In either case, there's a lot of desperate Chinese guys out there.


By foolsgambit11 on 1/7/2009 5:42:49 PM , Rating: 2
You're right that female infant mortality seems to naturally be lower than male infant mortality. However, at least in the U.S., more males are born than females. But then, females have longer average lifespans. So in the end, females average around 51% of the population.


By Min Jia on 1/8/2009 12:57:04 AM , Rating: 2
They can find wives in other regions, countries. In Hong Kong, we've got too many girls.


By theapparition on 1/7/2009 8:46:18 AM , Rating: 4
China isn't doing this for any population control. It has always been and will always be about control.

Pornography leads to solcialization and free thinking (not directly related, just a by-product). Same reason religious organizations for centuries have suppressed pornography and free thinking. Without that, they lose the ability to control thier people. China without the stranglehold control over thier people as they have now, would instantly break up along province lines, much as the USSR did.


By saiga6360 on 1/7/2009 3:52:24 PM , Rating: 3
What about bondage porn?


By ShaolinSoccer on 1/9/2009 5:12:52 PM , Rating: 2
Some of you people have obviously never been a father. And pornography is very controlling and can lead to ruining lives.


By mindless1 on 1/10/2009 12:06:33 AM , Rating: 2
Why is this so? Because of the cultures which inhibit sexual behavior. If we were more open about sexuality instead of making it taboo, it wouldn't have the negative effects.

Problem is, if the general population spent their time pursuing something that is free, instead of requiring production of goods, services, revenue for influential industries, the money trail dries up quite a bit.


Hmmm
By Crysalis99 on 1/6/2009 10:34:23 PM , Rating: 2
You know, I really am sort of split on issues such as this. On one hand, it is total censorship. Censorship is just wrong. We should be able to express ourselves however we want, even if it is sexually. Look at Hugh Hefner, made a very very wealthy and great lifestyle off of sex from Playboy. But China has always been pro-censorship on just about anything. I don't blame the Chinese for wanting to come to America.

But on the other hand, Just like comedian Mitch Fatel joked about, you type in a simple term like Ice-Cream, you probably could find naughty sites involving women and Ice-Cream.

If there could be a way to limit just how searches worked in general, to distinguish a little bit better. Better search algorithms perhaps, or perhaps putting a tag on all adult content and with each search engines have an option on where it will pick up all those tags. So that way it is in the users control still but yet, if you want to do a simple search, you get stuff non-sexual related.




RE: Hmmm
By cubby1223 on 1/6/2009 11:01:58 PM , Rating: 2
That was the basic idea behind the .xxx domain suffix that I forget why that failed to go through.


RE: Hmmm
By kattanna on 1/7/2009 3:21:28 PM , Rating: 2
if failed to go through because to many conservative religious people complained to bush that it would increase the presence of sex on the internet, like thats possible.

though.. theres also the possibility that if .xxx was started and all porn sites had to move to only be on .xxx domains, it would make censoring the internet to "protect the children" all to easy so that the government wouldnt have to get involved and then also make their censorship plans all that more transparent to the public in mass.

but thats me.. and my opnion.


RE: Hmmm
By LumbergTech on 1/7/2009 1:58:25 AM , Rating: 2
the problem with your idea about putting a tag on them is that it is difficult to define pornography without getting into censorship..


RE: Hmmm
By Guyver on 1/7/2009 10:46:06 AM , Rating: 3
You're thinking like an American.

Even the Bible is censored over there by having a Chinese Communist version much like a King James version. In reality, in a communist country the government is the religion which is pretty much atheism. Any other philosophy essentially challenges the Communist government. And before I get flamed, I'm not religious so I'm not picking on atheists. People who actually and openly practice a religion by the way the religion dictates gets arrested over there. You either do it the government's way or you don't do it at all.

The censorship goes a long ways back. When Mao reinvented the Chinese alphabet to go from traditional Chinese characters to simplified Chinese characters, he dramatically reduced the illiteracy rate in China.... however, his ulterior motive was to make every Chinese person in the country unable to read Chinese text written 100 years ago. Why? Because classical Chinese philosophy flies in the face of Communist doctrine (much like any religion).

Unlike you or I who can pick up a book written in English 100+ years ago and actually read it (even though we may not comprehend all of it), a Chinese person from China cannot read anything written in traditional Chinese.

Either way, censoring the Internet is just an extension of what Mao started a long time ago.


RE: Hmmm
By Crysalis99 on 1/7/2009 10:56:20 AM , Rating: 2
Too much like an American? Guess so...

Chinese politics, culture and history was never my interest. Japan's was. So yeah I don't get this nearly as well as other things. Hell, to be honest, aside from learning about the very limited view of communism in High School. Politics and history aren't really my thing.

Any rate, I see what you are saying.


RE: Hmmm
By Dreifort on 1/7/2009 11:56:57 AM , Rating: 2
China has regualary used Yahoo to also sniff out any website owners who post anti-communist comments.

Yahoo has a whole crusade against them by many activist groups for supporting the arrest and torture of free-minded Chinese citizens. (one example is booyahoo.com)


RE: Hmmm
By garbageacc3 on 1/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Hmmm
By TheRagnarok on 1/20/2009 4:56:36 PM , Rating: 2
Lol?, Crazin Asian?


RE: Hmmm
By mindless1 on 1/10/2009 12:12:43 AM , Rating: 2
If you only enter "ice cream" it should return a certain # of hits involving sexual uses of ice-cream just as it returns an appropriate # of non-sexual hits.

If you do a simple non-specific search you should expect, and should rightly get everything under the sun that pertains to the search terms. That you want to have this limit is in itself a form of self-imposed censorship, it should not be a matter of singling out sexuality to block from search hits, any more so than blocking out any other popular use for ice-cream.

Even so, a search engine should seek to properly bias the results instead of allowing efforts of 3rd parties to infiltrate the search hits by forethought to raise their hit ratio.


Don't they know..
By Nirach on 1/7/2009 8:14:59 AM , Rating: 2
Don't Chinese officials know that porn invented the internet?




RE: Don't they know..
By Donovan on 1/7/2009 11:19:41 AM , Rating: 2
The internet was invented by geeks from universities and government labs...porn was inevitable.


RE: Don't they know..
By foolsgambit11 on 1/7/2009 5:54:05 PM , Rating: 2
Are you familiar with the Caesar cipher? (This is going somewhere - the payoff is worth it, I swear.) That's where you replace a letter with another letter a certain distance away in the alphabet. So 'hello world' with a +1 Caesar shift would be 'ifmmp xpsme'. 'Z' would become 'A' - the alphabet wraps around. A more complicated cipher (or sometimes simpler, depends on how it's executed, like all cryptography) is one with a variable shift, or where only certain letters are shifted. I hereby create a cipher where the first and last letters of a word are given a Caesar shift of -9 (or +17, however you want to look at it). So 'J' becomes 'A', 'B' becomes 'S', etc... All other letters remain the same. Not a very difficult cipher to break, I admit. Take this example from your post, for instance, where one word has been given the 'foolsgambit' cipher:

"Don't Chinese officials know that Gore invented the internet?"


Adult Pornography
By AssBall on 1/7/2009 11:05:20 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
The Chinese government launched a crackdown against internet adult pornographic content...


At least they'll still have pornographic content for children... ???




RE: Adult Pornography
By Dreifort on 1/7/2009 11:52:58 AM , Rating: 3
it's called Anime. the Japanese are great at it too.


Pretty funny...
By Swaid on 1/7/2009 4:40:43 AM , Rating: 3
It seems really odd that China makes porn illegal, yet here in Beijing you can find a "Sex Shop" (Adult "Products") on every street. And I guess that "Blind Man Massages" must be pretty popular here too, since I have passed at least 3 different locations that advertise that.




RE: Pretty funny...
By Regs on 1/7/2009 9:34:54 AM , Rating: 2
You thought USA was bad with double standards.


onoes
By PascalT on 1/7/2009 9:27:40 AM , Rating: 5
God forbid they act as normal humans with urges and needs. That'd be an offense against the State!




Missing the point.
By Reclaimer77 on 1/7/2009 5:47:52 PM , Rating: 2
No offense but all of you have whiffed big time on the true goal behind this.

Porn invokes images of rich lifestyles, beautiful women, exotic locations and expensive cars. The LAST thing China needs, in their minds, are thousands or millions of men and women with fantasies of a better standard of living. And when you get right down to it, that's porn in a nutshell, a fantasy.

Remember what helped defeat Communist Russia. It wasn't a super weapon or diplomacy. It was Coca Cola, McDonalds, designer jeans etc etc.




RE: Missing the point.
By os008 on 1/10/2009 10:11:18 AM , Rating: 2
The question that's always on my mind ... why does USA invade dictatorship countries that're too weak, while leaving strong countries (like USSR and PRC or China) that are the REAL threat to its security and potential for a Cold, eventually 'hot', war?

As we say in Arabic ... couldn't harrass the big donkey so he went for the small one (sounds better in Arabic).

I have to say, i see trouble in the horizon, China is becoming stronger everyday, another Cold War isn't far fetched, just my opinion.

In the end ... there has been, and will ALWAYS be, a global dictator throughout history. Remove one ... replaced by another!

Yours truely ... frustrated Egyptian :(.


If she's hot...
By amanojaku on 1/6/2009 10:44:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A woman last month was arrested after she reportedly posted an explicit video of herself on the internet.


I'll give her refuge. C'mon, we know you're dying to kick her out of the country.




What's the point?
By DanoruX on 1/7/2009 2:30:50 AM , Rating: 2
Anyone who's ever been to China knows that, thanks to the pirate industry, there's an abundance of porn available for people needing some eye candy...




Seems backwards to me
By dj LiTh on 1/7/2009 5:22:06 AM , Rating: 2
I mean shouldnt they be pushing pr0n and every other form of contraceptive they can get their hands on? And as said in a earlier post, they have more men than woman in the country so they should also be open to different forms of sexual orientation. Not that i agree with different forms of sexual orientation, but i can atleast mind my own business when it comes to them.




In other news...
By wordsworm on 1/7/2009 9:46:18 AM , Rating: 2
The demand for large hard drives has been all but reduced in China. Pundits suggest that this may be due to the fact that there's no more porn in China. Bottom line, westerners now have much bigger hard drives.




oh well
By Dreifort on 1/7/2009 10:04:18 AM , Rating: 2
all the good porn comes from Japan anyway.

you never see any Chineese panty pranks/raids?




Red Herring
By Guyver on 1/7/2009 10:35:40 AM , Rating: 2
I'm thinking this is a red herring for the Chinese government. Seems to me this is their way of legitimizing censorship so as to quell any dissenting gripes for everything else they're censoring.

quote:
Ooops, sorry. The reason why you couldn't find any information on Tiananmen Square was because it must have somehow tripped our porn filter.




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