Sources: John McCain [press release], Reuters
quote: Like it or not, completely re-working and upgrading on the IT side takes MONEY. No money, no upgrades.
quote: And I note, you didn't exactly put forward a competiting option yourself
quote: Money isn't the issue. This is a damned good use of money in my opinion. We, Republicans, obviously have reservation about putting the DHS in charge of something like this. The idea of DHS "crackdowns" in this area should give ANY American reservations. Even Democrats. Good grief, don't you have ANY consistency? I can just imagine what they would be saying if Bush tried to appoint the DHS to oversee our nations cyber security! lol, oh man.
quote: 1. Hire a professional cyber security consulting firm to do a complete audit and probe of the networks in question and to make recommendations. Swear them to secrecy and make them sign non-disclosure agreements if you have to.2. Read report from said firm on said recommendations.3. Implement recommendations to networks. Using whatever equipment and personnel needed.But I guess that would never work because we apparently need an act of Congress to do what we've been paying our IT people to do for years in the private sector any Government for that matter. I'm sure the DHS will do a great job.
quote: Hey to be fair it was a Republican who created the DHS, so both parties are culpable for that mess.
quote: But I agree, the DHS both under Obama and Bush has been given many questionable authorities.
quote: Well first off the republican counter proposal had no extra money alotted
quote: 1. Hire
quote: George Bush created the DHS, gave them a 100 billion/y budget, and told them to "crack down". And you're right, look at where that has gotten us.
quote: Other times, it's just partisan--my party has bigger dick than your party--slop.
quote: You baffle me. Sometimes your insight is quite deep, neutral, and full of critical thought.
quote: alf our problem is VERY basic knowledge that any IT professional or college student could tell you. When the problem is in the Government, how is MORE Government the solution again?
quote: I thought the Department of Homeland Security couldn't possibly make us more safe? Now you want to give them a bigger budget, turn them inward on our own people, and make them into Cyber Gestapos and "crack down" on everyone. How does that make our Internet more safe again by the way?There's GOTTA be a better way. But what more can you expect from a Bill written by Harry Reid?Remember, when you use DHS to secure our networks, the terrorists..errr, Chinese win!
quote: I think the U.S. is being too soft-hearted in preferring not to mass-employ its cyber-criminals. When these rogues are more powerful (skilled) than the government's paid IT employees in terms of intrusions, you need to be recruiting these valuable weapons (in an official capacity) and setting them to work against your enemies, not punishing them.
quote: I think this would be a tough sell in Congress. Because you're basically talking about exposing our most secret networks to, literal, criminals. And once they are plugged in and doing their thing, it would be literally impossible to make sure they are doing their jobs and not more seedy endeavors. Like you said, they're smarter than our own IT experts for the most part. Hard to track and monitor and keep tabs on.
quote: That's likely the model China is using, if I had to speculate.
quote: If, say, half a dozen hackers that infiltrate CIA networks get lined up in a field and shot (which is EXACTLY what China would do for far lesser offenses), then it'd send a message: attacking the government is a serious matter.
quote: Hey line up and get shot in the field.Orrrrr we will pay you NFL money to work FOR us. You'll have women and power. All you have to do is hack those that hack us. Your salary will be structured heavily on bonuses, based on our assessment of what you have obtained and what kinds of damage you have done.
quote: Actually I'd like to see a bunch of other kinds of things done:1. Remove rules on cyber offensive, w.r.t. nations with high levels of known attacks (e.g. China, etc.).2. Recruit black hat hackers (think the LulzSec kids). Stroke their egos, give them money, and use them to target attacker IPs in China, as well as to conduct off-the-record "retrieval" of Chinese financial and business information, as China is doing to the U.S.In an era where a bright individual can be a on3. Recruit new private sector firms to protect U.S. networks, with particular attention to high-tech targets, government networks, and high-profile contractors.4. Move gov't websites to DDOS-proof ("in theory") hosting schemes, a la CloudFlare.