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Cellular providers say there is no way to know how much capacity they need to add to networks in Washington D.C.

Today is inauguration day for President-elect Obama as he takes over the reins from President Bush. Obama is widely known to be a fan of technology and is often seen with his beloved Blackberry which will be replaced by a more secure Windows Mobile device once he takes office.

Officials expect record setting numbers of Americans to descend on Washington D.C. to take part in the historic inauguration of Obama. With Obama proving to be very popular among the younger, more tech savvy voters in the country, cellular providers are warning that their networks may be unable to cope with the glut of calls, texts and other network traffic expected during the inauguration events.

The largest cellular providers have asked users to limit their phone calls and delay sending photos during the inauguration events. The same carriers also say they have spent millions to ensure that their networks can handle the massively increased traffic expected in Washington.

The fear of these carriers is that because of overwhelming traffic, customers will see a greatly increased amount of dropped calls, lost photos or delayed text messaged. One of the things expected to contribute to the amount of bandwidth consumer in D.C. is the large image sizes many camera phones are capable of capturing today.

With the popularity of mobile portals for social networking sites like Twitter and photo sharing sites, the available bandwidth could be quickly consumed. Many newspapers and TV stations are also asking cellular users to send in images of the inauguration events as they happen via email.

Joe Farren, a spokesman for the Cellular Telecommunications and Internet Association, told the New York Times, "If some of these estimates come true, people should anticipate delays with regards to sending text messages or making phone calls or getting onto the Internet."

Cellular carriers in the D.C. area have added significantly to the capacity of their networks in the area to handle the traffic by fielding special trucks with cellular towers on them and generators in case of power failures.

On the other side are consumers and consumer advocates that say the carriers shouldn’t be so proud that they have beefed up service in the areas and should instead be apologizing to customers for charging for a service that doesn’t always work. Gene Kimmelman from the Consumers Union says cellular users in Washington may not get seamless service, but they will definitely get the bill at the end of the month.

Kimmelman said, "It’s like paying for an all-you-can-eat buffet and discovering there are only scraps left. Maybe they [cellular providers] should offer a rebate if they cut usage on Inauguration Day."

A Verizon spokesman says inauguration day is unprecedented in its size. The spokesman points out that Verizon knows how many people can fit into a concert venue and can add enough coverage. However, he points out that Verizon has no way to know how many people will be trying to use its D.C. network on inauguration day and therefore can’t predict accurately what sort of capacity it needs to add.



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Millions...
By Chemical Chris on 1/20/2009 6:24:37 PM , Rating: 2
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Verizon has no way to know how many people will be trying to use its D.C. network on inauguration day

A lot!
Seriously though, they should have over-built their capacity for today, just to be safe. And for the people running/owning the company, the chance to be a part of history, and ensuring that is goes smoothly for all involved, should be its own reward. This is one of those rare moments when we're all in it together, and a few bucks here or there is amply justified by the significance of the event.

Also, it was so weird watching it today from my school bar, Ive never seen it so packed, and once his speech started, everyone became silent, and no one ordered anything for the duration. Only applause punctuated the surreal feeling. Oh, Im in Canada to, which only goes to show the significance of this day. A story for the grandkids, to be sure!

ChemC




RE: Millions...
By foolsgambit11 on 1/20/2009 8:11:50 PM , Rating: 3
I thought the whole event was very nice, but I was disappointed with the lack of accuracy in Obama's inaugural address. In the first 30 seconds, too. "Forty-four Americans have now taken the Presidential oath." Factually inaccurate. Barack Obama is the 44th President, but he wasn't the 44th American to take the oath. Grover Cleveland was both the 22nd and 24th POTUS, having served two terms non-consecutively (Benjamin Harrison between the two (not Wm. Henry Harrison, don't get confused. Ol' Bill is the one that died a month after taking office. Ben is the one who split Cleveland's terms (they were grandfather and grandson, by the by))). So anyway, he should have said that forty-three Americans have taken the Presidential oath. Other than that, I really enjoyed the event.


RE: Millions...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/20/2009 8:12:35 PM , Rating: 1
Uh right. (I live right outside of DC FYI) What exactly is so different about this day? It comes by every 4 years when we swear in a new president. I find this entire situation blown out of proportion by the fanatical legions of Obama supporters that think hes the second coming or something. Relax people, chill out, its just another president, and we can do this all over again in 4 years for the next pesident. Just like we did 4 years ago for the last one.... Get the picture?


RE: Millions...
By Chemical Chris on 1/20/2009 8:33:29 PM , Rating: 2
I definitely respect your opinion, and theres a big part of me that feels the same way. Normally, Im the first one to be cynical, but this time I really want to believe that it will be different, like Kennedy, or Lincoln. I remember watching him on The Daily Show years ago, long before any Presidential aspirations, and he hasn't changed. His a very smart individual, but smart enough to know hes not the smartest, so he surrounds himself with intelligent people who all take different viewpoints, so that he can be best apprised of all the options/consequences.
I dont expect miracles, such as maybe cutting their defence budget in half (it would still be 5x as much as the rest of the world combined, just not 10x) and used the savings to pay for healthcare, education, and making their country/world great. But I do expect an end to Gitmo, illegal wiretapping, torture, and oppressive government. Basically, take some of the Orwell out of the equation.
Of course, the outgoing President set the bar pretty low, so he can't really be worse.

In closing, while a big part of me agrees with you, I really think this is the biggest chance in the last 40 years for something truly awesome to happen, and I really hope it doesnt crash and burn.

ChemC


RE: Millions...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/20/2009 9:00:17 PM , Rating: 2
Alright, I gotta rain on your parade just a little for the factual flaws.
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I really want to believe that it will be different, like Kennedy, or Lincoln.

What exactly did Kennedy do that was great? Other than get shot I mean?

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His a very smart individual, but smart enough to know hes not the smartest, so he surrounds himself with intelligent people who all take different viewpoints, so that he can be best apprised of all the options/consequences.

Given that 90% of his staff comes straight from the Clinton Administration I have to disagree. If anything its a shift backwards 15 years. It was lousy then, and its lousy now.

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I dont expect miracles, such as maybe cutting their defence budget in half (it would still be 5x as much as the rest of the world combined, just not 10x) and used the savings to pay for healthcare, education, and making their country/world great.

Well if you want to see the USA go the way of France or Germany on the world stage, thats definately a good way to do it. Lots of talk, no action. Pretty sure that goes against the american saying "Speak softly and carry a big stick." People only listen to what a country has to say when it has the power to back it up and/or do something about it. My hats off to Bush for again asserting American authority abroad, something Clinton didn't do much of, and completely screwed up in Somalia.

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But I do expect an end to Gitmo, illegal wiretapping, torture, and oppressive government. Basically, take some of the Orwell out of the equation.

Gitmo, probably going away but that has nothing to do with Obama, that has everything to do with the Supreme Court. Illegal Wiretapping, it hasn't been rulled illegal so you can put that away. Torture? Waterboarding isn't torture, but its a popular theory. Opressive government? Not really sure where that stems from, but sure ok.

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Of course, the outgoing President set the bar pretty low, so he can't really be worse.

No no, Carter set the bar low. Bush? It's of a medium setting. Obama can do worse, and he can do better, we'll see in 4 years.

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In closing, while a big part of me agrees with you, I really think this is the biggest chance in the last 40 years for something truly awesome to happen, and I really hope it doesnt crash and burn.

Given the expectations everyone seems to has of Obama, I feel sorry for the guy. There is no way he can do it in 4 years, let alone 8. Expectations are way too high, hes going to disappoint many regardless of how good he is.


RE: Millions...
By room200 on 1/20/2009 9:30:35 PM , Rating: 1
What exactly did Kennedy do that was great? Other than get shot I mean

For one thing, he was brave enough to stand up and speak up for the cause of civil rights, and I guess you forget that Cuban missle crisis thingy.

Given that 90% of his staff comes straight from the Clinton Administration I have to disagree. If anything its a shift backwards 15 years. It was lousy then, and its lousy now.

Actually, times were good then. The economy was great. We also got our first budget SURPLUS in decades.

Well if you want to see the USA go the way of France or Germany on the world stage, thats definately a good way to do it. Lots of talk, no action. Pretty sure that goes against the american saying "Speak softly and carry a big stick." People only listen to what a country has to say when it has the power to back it up and/or do something about it. My hats off to Bush for again asserting American authority abroad, something Clinton didn't do much of, and completely screwed up in Somalia.

That's that ridiculous George W. Bush Texas cowboy crap that has lead to most of the world hating our guts. Say what you want, but we can't exist on this planet with only relationships based on fear. Besides, you have the actual GALL to talk about Somalia after that thing called Katrina? That's in our own back yard.

Gitmo, probably going away but that has nothing to do with Obama, that has everything to do with the Supreme Court. Illegal Wiretapping, it hasn't been rulled illegal so you can put that away. Torture? Waterboarding isn't torture, but its a popular theory. Opressive government? Not really sure where that stems from, but sure ok.

So now all of a sudden The Supreme Court is going to do what's right simply because of the constitution? How novel. They haven't done a damn thing over the last 8 years while Bush and Cheney have been allowed to run roughshod over it.

Furthermore, wiretapping is illegal without judicial approval. Bush authorized these wiretaps on his own using the argument that the courts "aren't fast enough". See if a judge allows that argument when the police break open your door to find evidence without a warrant. You are also wrong on the waterboarding issue. Bush admits that he authorized torture. There is no argument about that.
The current attorney general Says that it is. Who's right? You or him?

One only has to look to your moronic post to see how we ended up in this sorry mess that we're in. For you to be able to look at Bush's tenure and pull the so-called positives out of it means that you must be looking through some very expensive and distorted rose-colored glasses. Try wearing them a little while for the current president.


RE: Millions...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/20/2009 10:06:36 PM , Rating: 1
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For one thing, he was brave enough to stand up and speak up for the cause of civil rights

Talk, no action there. Moving on.

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and I guess you forget that Cuban missle crisis thingy.

Again, talk, no action. We bluffed, they backed down, end of story. I guess you also forgot about the Bay of Pigs fiasco under Kennedy as well eh?

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Actually, times were good then. The economy was great. We also got our first budget SURPLUS in decades.

Right, because the President has anything to do with the economy. I seem to recall the massive bubble before the Dot bomb which occured just after Clinton left office. I also seem to recall not a budget surplus but a bunch of IOU's being borrowed against the Social Security system to cause that surplus. Taxes also went up substantially under Clinton, yea thats a game winner.

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That's that ridiculous George W. Bush Texas cowboy crap that has lead to most of the world hating our guts. Say what you want, but we can't exist on this planet with only relationships based on fear.

Your right, but your also an idiot to believe fear isn't an effective weapon against a good number of non-european countries.

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Besides, you have the actual GALL to talk about Somalia after that thing called Katrina? That's in our own back yard.

What the hell does Katrina have to do with Somalia? Seriously, where do you make such a distinction? I'd love to see the logic linking those two. Katrina is a natural disaster that should have been handled by the local governments. Somalia was a military disaster courtesy of Clinton and his lack of balls to do the job right.

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So now all of a sudden The Supreme Court is going to do what's right simply because of the constitution? How novel. They haven't done a damn thing over the last 8 years while Bush and Cheney have been allowed to run roughshod over it.

Well if not for The Supreme Court giving all these people at gitmo some rights to trials and whatnot, there would be a good reason to keep gitmo open now wouldn't it? The entire purpose of Gitmo is to avoid the rights people get once they step foot on American soil. Since the Supreme Court is now saying the people held there have the same rights as everyone else, that makes it a useless venture to stay there. I also remind you it takes a LONG TIME to move anything through the court system.

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Furthermore, wiretapping is illegal without judicial approval. Bush authorized these wiretaps on his own using the argument that the courts "aren't fast enough". See if a judge allows that argument when the police break open your door to find evidence without a warrant.

In the interest of national security you can get away with quite a few things. I also have not yet heard The Supreme Court rule they were illegal wiretappings, and I bet good money you never will.

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You are also wrong on the waterboarding issue. Bush admits that he authorized torture. There is no argument about that.

I recall them saying they would stop waterboarding and anything else that could be considered torture, I don't recall an admission that it is. Nor does it really matter, we will simply ship our prisoners over to Saudi or another country the CIA does business with and let them extract the information for us.

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The current attorney general Says that it is. Who's right? You or him?

Well considering Bush has gone through quite a few AG's I'd say his statement is nothing but political doublespeak.

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One only has to look to your moronic post to see how we ended up in this sorry mess that we're in. For you to be able to look at Bush's tenure and pull the so-called positives out of it means that you must be looking through some very expensive and distorted rose-colored glasses. Try wearing them a little while for the current president.

I'm not wearing rose colored classes. I'm just not wearing the "Bush is Evil, everything he ever did was wrong, and the USA is going to hell in a handbag because of him" glasses that so many other people like to wear, yourself included. Seriously, Katrina is Bush's fault? That's a barrel of laughs right there.


RE: Millions...
By room200 on 1/20/09, Rating: 0
RE: Millions...
By SlyNine on 1/20/2009 11:04:57 PM , Rating: 1
No offense, but all you have done is jump on board the blame the previous administration for all the problems this country has had for the past 8 years.

Because times are bad people just want to bitch and complain and find someone to blame. Get over it.

Sadly as much attention gets paid to the fact the guy is black as does the fact that he is our next leader for 4 years. By its self proving we are not beyond the race issue.


RE: Millions...
By room200 on 1/21/2009 7:38:42 AM , Rating: 2
When your administration has screwed up, you get to take the responsibility for it. It's as simple as that.


RE: Millions...
By room200 on 1/21/2009 7:35:48 AM , Rating: 2
And by the way, Obama has already halted Gitmo prosecutions. So, wrong again. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/21/guantanamo....


RE: Millions...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/21/2009 8:02:43 AM , Rating: 2
An Exective Policy Review doesn't stop them. It merely delays them. Lets stick to facts now shall we?


RE: Millions...
By Jansen (blog) on 1/21/2009 12:33:16 AM , Rating: 2
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What exactly did Kennedy do that was great? Other than get shot I mean?


Dude, the US space program and all of its associated technologies!

That one speech alone...


RE: Millions...
By Samus on 1/21/2009 2:30:29 AM , Rating: 2
It's disturbing when people don't understand the Kennedy legacy... I wasn't even born yet and even with basic historical knowledge of the 60's its easy to see why many Americans consider him the greatest president ever. Although, I personally thought FDR was a badass.


RE: Millions...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/21/2009 7:15:13 AM , Rating: 2
I dispute that. Kennedy died long before the details of the space program were ever worked out, or the Apollo program even recieved funding. That would be more properly credited to Johnson.

You will also note that Kennedy was the first president to run a non-war, non-recession defecit on the fiscal budget.

I'm all for saying Kennedy was an OK president, but many of the things your trying to credit him with were not done during his term in office, he died before any of them were even worked out. At best we can say Kennedy was a dreamer and had high expectations, but the guy put very little into action.

His successor Johnson would be more aptly credited with the success of the space program though Jansen.


hehe
By freeagle on 1/20/2009 12:29:53 PM , Rating: 3
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his beloved Blackberry which will be replaced by a more secure Windows Mobile device once he takes office.


Now to be honest, I have no idea how in/secure the Blackberry is, but this just made me laugh a bit :)




RE: hehe
By Etsp on 1/20/2009 1:05:29 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.dailytech.com/Obama+to+Receive+Secure+B...

It IS more secure than a blackberry, but that's not thanks to microsoft.


RE: hehe
By freeagle on 1/20/2009 2:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
I was not questioning Microsoft Mobile phone's security, I just found the the sentence funny.


RE: hehe
By SlyNine on 1/20/2009 11:07:24 PM , Rating: 2
Kinda like an oxymoron. Microsoft security.

jk


Bandwidth crunch
By GreenEnvt on 1/20/2009 1:17:53 PM , Rating: 2
I think there were general bandwidth issues due to the demand.
Our office had a room setup to watch this (though we're Canadian, demand was very high).
We initially had a stream from CBC.ca going, but about 11:45 est it started breaking up, freezing. Tried NBC, same issue. CNN wouldn't even let you try,it had a message up saying the queue was full. PIC2009 website also had the same freezing.
Eventually we left the video up from PIC2009 but audio from cbc radio's webstream. They were about 10 seconds out of sync, but it was much better then pausing every 20 seconds.

I checked our bandwidth numbers during the last hour, we never used more then 2mb of our 10mb bandwidth, so no issues on our end.




RE: Bandwidth crunch
By achintya on 1/20/2009 3:31:11 PM , Rating: 2
I work in an ISP and starting at about 9 we started getting calls from irate customers that their 'net was running very slow. Due to the inauguration, the total traffic had near about doubled!


Ooooo...time for some "jokes"
By uhgotnegum on 1/20/2009 12:27:43 PM , Rating: 1
Ok...

if you don't like your cell coverage, you can "change" your provider. Yes, you can!

I can't hear you now!

I bet Barak has a signal

Obviously, this is all George Bush's fault
Obviously, this isn't Barak Obama's fault

You don't need a signal...everyone who's anyone is standing right next to you anyway

I'm glad they don't have a signal...I mean, who'd want Barak's oath to be interrupted by "I like big butts" or some other silly ringtone

Uhh...ok, I'm done




RE: Ooooo...time for some "jokes"
By Cerberus90 on 1/20/2009 12:33:29 PM , Rating: 1
I don't think signal is anything to do with it.

Its the connection.

Just like you can have a connection to broadband, but if 10 people are all on at the same time, the speed will drop.


RE: Ooooo...time for some "jokes"
By uhgotnegum on 1/20/09, Rating: -1
By foolsgambit11 on 1/20/2009 8:00:25 PM , Rating: 2
Well, you know what they say, 'You go to the inauguration with the cell phone network you have.'


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New Leaf
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cant even post anymore
By on 1/20/2009 3:39:28 PM , Rating: 2
I am signing off guys




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