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Recent driver versions from AMD / ATI appear to lack support for their latest video cards.

Some people may call it nitpicking, but I take this issue seriously. A little over a month ago I reported about Catalyst 6.9 lacking support for ATIs X1950 XTX video card. Basically it didn't support any of the models newly released in August. Since the affected card is not a high volume product, only a few people were affected and those could still use workarounds to get the card to work.

Now with Catalyst 6.10 history repeats itself. ATI now added support for X1300 XT, X1650 Pro and X1950 XTX, aforementioned cards released in August. However ATIs product management didn't sleep and released two new products in October: Radeon X1950 Pro on October 17th and Radeon X1650 XT on October 30th. To recap, Catalyst 6.10 was released on October 31st, the last day to call it a 6.10 release.

ATIs driver development apparently did sleep or so, it seems. Basically they are lagging behind by one month if you look at what they did in Catalyst 6.10. They finally managed to add support for cards released in August. And the new cards from October are missing. The late release of these cards is no excuse since ATI internally knew they were coming. It disappoints me to find such sort of support, or lack thereof.

To be fair, I have to mention, that ATI offers a separate driver download for X1950 Pro owners. It's some non-standard release and most likely without WHQL certificate, though I didn't confirm that. However X1650 XT is still missing in any driver released by ATI to date. You have to rely on the non-WHQL drivers that are on the driver CD, which should ship with those cards. It might be me, but I always prefer a publicy available driver on the Internet. Lets hope they will fix that in Catalyst 6.11, which will hopefully appear before November 30th.

I'd like to put this into perspective with NVIDIAs driver development model. NVIDIA basically only releases a new driver when necessary. That is when they want to introduce a new feature or release new hardware. ATI argued in the past that you can't rely on driver updates from NVDIA. If their monthly driver releases mean outdated drivers, I'd prefer NVIDIAs approach though. I'd also like to clarify that in general I think the drivers of both manufacturers are on a similiar level in terms of quality. There are just these annoying little issues that shouldn't happen to reputable companies like ATI.

On a side note, I mentioned solely ATI by intention. I know it's now part of AMD and their website went all green but in my opinion it's too early to call the current accomplishments those of AMD. Since the GPU division will still be called ATI it's ok to call them just that for a while.



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Leaked 6.11 Drivers
By phobos512 on 11/7/2006 8:41:39 AM , Rating: 3
Was browsing Rage3D last night and came across a forum post on the leak of beta 6.11 Catalyst drivers. The supported card file was posted in the thread and noted RV570 (note that it was actually labeled as such - there was a separate entry titled X1950 Series). One of the other forum users noted that they worked with their X1950Pro. I'm on travel so I can't try them wih my X1950Pro but I will try when I get home, assuming 6.11's haven't been released by then (sure they won't).




RE: Leaked 6.11 Drivers
By Chillin1248 on 11/15/2006 3:55:21 PM , Rating: 3
You can find the 6.11 drivers here (Official):

http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

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You must be kidding
By chadwick21 on 11/7/2006 2:21:22 PM , Rating: 1
So you are complaining that ATI released a video card on October 30th and their monthly driver (which was released on October 31st) did not support it even though there is a perfectly good driver on the enclosed driver CD...

Do you have any other articles you can waste my time with? Seriously, there are enough of these garbage articles to weed through as it is. Next time give me some reading material I can actually gain something from or please don't bother.




RE: You must be kidding
By Chillin1248 on 11/7/2006 5:13:51 PM , Rating: 2
I believe you just defeated yourself with your own arguement.

If ATI had a pair of drivers that worked with the RV570 before the latest pair of drivers were put on their website, then why are they not compatible?

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Chillin


RE: You must be kidding
By chadwick21 on 11/8/2006 2:24:38 PM , Rating: 2
What argument? I summed up what the author was complaining about...

Yet another useless complaint.


x1950 pro
By jackalsmith on 11/6/06, Rating: 0
RE: x1950 pro
By Spivonious on 11/6/2006 4:58:44 PM , Rating: 4
What is the point of your post, other than to brag about your 3DMark scores, and the fact that you dropped a small fortune on video cards?


its pretty sad actualy
By Pwnt Soup on 11/6/2006 3:13:49 PM , Rating: 1
i find it very telling, that ATI drivers are the way they are, i am not a huge ati or nvidia debator, but ati seems too have the better hardware, and nvidia better drivers. you might think with rep like that ati might put a little more effort into their drivers? with the GL performance hit they take compared too D3D, and the complaints on the CCP being slow too respond and generaly buggy, why wouldent they react and work on those short commings? unless they were taking their customer base for granted? how long have those complaints been out there and when will they be addressed?




RE: its pretty sad actualy
By Christopher1 on 11/6/2006 4:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
Well, really the drivers are an afterthought with ATI, when they are the main thing with NVidia. NVidia's drivers are more compact and quick to respond, translating into better performance with their chipsets.

However, ATI's drivers are not optimized, but their processors and cards are better than NVidia's in terms of power right now, so you don't notice that non-optimization at all or very little.


You could use proof reading...
By Heron Kusanagi on 11/6/06, Rating: -1
RE: You could use proof reading...
By Marcus Pollice on 11/6/2006 2:35:25 PM , Rating: 2
I have to admit, that I'm not a native English speaker so I think a moderate amount of mistakes could be tolerated. That said, I believe my English is quite ok.

Yeah I could have used a grammar check, but oh well.

Regarding the topic, I believe it's necessary to bring such problems to public attention. I can only assure you I will do the same once NVIDIA slips in a similiar fashion.


By czarchazm on 11/6/2006 3:40:41 PM , Rating: 2
It's quite fine, Marcus Pollice. Most native English speakers have a hard time using their own language correctly. I know this from experience. Kudos on being at least bilingual.


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