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A company called Geo Listening will do the monitoring

A California school district has hired a contractor to monitor the social networks of students in hopes of pinpointing suspicious behavior. 

The Glendale, California school district is paying $40,500 to the company Geo Listening for the social monitoring services. The firm will read Facebook, Twitter and other social network posts by 14,000 middle school and high school students in the district. It will only apply to students ages 13 and up (when parental permission isn't necessary for the school's new monitoring methods).

Geo Listening's exact methods for monitoring the sites or verifying that the students are, in fact, from the school district are unclear. But the firm said it will only view public posts (students can set their posts to private), and it searches for keywords to find any alarming posts. The firm has also learned the lingo of youths to catch those who may be speaking in code or in shorthand. The school is then given a full report of the company's findings. 

The district said it is employing this method in order to ensure the safety of its students. For instance, if a student posts about suicide, a fight or bringing weapons to school, the district wants to know so that an intervention can take place. 

It also wants to know when other inappropriate acts are taking place on school grounds, such as drug use and skipping class.

Prior to the $40,000 contract, the school district took part in a pilot test of the monitoring program with Geo Listening. For $5,000, the firm monitored 9,000 students' social networks in the district last spring. 

According to the Glendale school district's Superintendent Richard Sheehan, the pilot was successful in countering a possible student suicide. The firm also found that a student posted a picture of a gun, and once investigated, it turned out the gun was fake and the student wasn't disciplined. But Sheehan said the monitoring has proved to be a valuable tool. 

"We were able to save a life," said Sheehan. "It's just another avenue to open up a dialogue with parents about safety."

However, many are worried that the students are being spied on. Parents are concerned that their children's privacy is being invaded by the firm's monitoring methods, and are further concerned about how their children will be reprimanded if they post something questionable on a social site (for instance, will the child's parents be called in when something happens? Will this allow students to be punished for merely saying something negative about the school?).

Do you think the monitoring will be effective? And is it spying, or a safety precaution?

Source: CNN



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Quit putting your entire life on the Internet.
By SAN-Man on 9/17/2013 11:38:56 AM , Rating: 5
We didn't have this problem 10 years ago because people understood what PRIVACY was.

If you are stupid enough to use your REAL NAME on a PUBLIC WEBSITE with little to no true access control then by god, you deserve what you get.

If this information was not created and made available by users then people wouldn't be looking for it.

And for sites like Facebook which have some limited access control, here's an idea - DON'T FRIEND PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW. Honestly, do you let anyone in your front door? Then why in the HELL would you friend random people you don't know?




By Jeffk464 on 9/17/2013 11:54:12 AM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately its so much easier to use your facebook account to post comments that basically you end up using your real name all over the place.


RE: Quit putting your entire life on the Internet.
By Jeffk464 on 9/17/2013 11:56:51 AM , Rating: 3
Personally I think school's are obligated to protect their students from being bullied at school. When the kids get home however, it the responsibility of the parents to monitor their own kids. The government was never intended to be a substitute for parents.


By Shig on 9/17/2013 9:05:49 PM , Rating: 2
Little kids don't know any better. They need proper education on social networking similar to sex education. By the time kids figure out they shouldn't have done something online it's already too late for them usually.

High speed internet and the current state of the internet is one of the most powerful tools available, for better or worse.

Most parents are SO far behind their kids technologically, they don't even know how to educate them. Kids are sexting one another by the time they hit 6th and 7th grade, then parents are like wtf is sexting, rabble rabble rabble.


By KFZ on 9/23/2013 1:15:20 PM , Rating: 2
Wholly, people absolutely did not understand privacy, recent or in distant history. There has simply never existed technology that encourages and thereupon vomits your private information to the public like there is now.

To say nothing of how, year after year, Facebook has continued to push once private information (by default) into public viewing and doesn't actually delete your information.

Everywhere you go on the Internet, you need to behave like you are being recorded. It's not been forgotten, it's been killed.


I have no problem with this.
By Concillian on 9/17/2013 3:03:28 PM , Rating: 3
IF they really are only looking at public comments, then what's the problem? Best case it improves safety, worst case it gives kids a crash course in appropriate privacy settings of your social networks.

I'd venture to guess that most parents of high school age kids don't even know how to do that themselves, let alone teach their kids to. How better to teach a kid that anyone can see what they're posting than to read through their posts and act on things that are seen as potentially controversial?

It's not like they're using NSA tactics here. Basically they're just looking at their Facebook page like any sane employer would when hiring someone. Better for them to have that experience in high school than to be rejected from a job because of it.




RE: I have no problem with this.
By Solandri on 9/17/2013 3:35:21 PM , Rating: 3
It'll be a problem if they start punishing kids in school for things which are perfectly within their rights to do outside of school.

e.g. What were they planning to do to the kid who posted the picture of a gun if it had been real? I don't own a gun nor do I particularly like shooting them. But they're a dangerous object my kids could come in contact with in everyday life. So when they're old enough I'll probably take them to a shooting range for a firearms safety course. That way they'll know how to properly handle said dangerous object should they ever run across one (or a friend who is improperly handling one). Are they going to be expelled from school if they post pictures of that trip?


By Reclaimer77 on 9/17/2013 3:54:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
How better to teach a kid that anyone can see what they're posting than to read through their posts and act on things that are seen as potentially controversial?


How about their job is supposed to be to educate students ON the subject matter? Observing the online activities of their students is NOT what the education system needs to be engaged in. Not only should everyone have a problem with this, but it should be viewed as disconcerting and definitely going 'too far'. It's downright creepy!

What you're saying is some bureaucratic Governmental organization should actively engage in social engineering. I think we have enough of that already these days, don't you?


RE: I have no problem with this.
By TSS on 9/18/2013 2:32:56 PM , Rating: 2
Double edged sword here.

On the one hand yes, scanning these networks can help in prevent crimes taking place. Legitimate crimes such as dealing drugs on school grounds or any potential shootings waiting to happen, as kids do have a tendancy to lash out before they actually start shooting, noticing it early would not only save lives of fellow students but also get those kids the help they need (you're pretty goddamn stupid if you post about drugdeals on a *public* *facebook* page, but some kids/people really are that stupid).

On the other hand though. Kids say stupid stuff because they're kids and the school boards are only human. It is practically guarranteed some kids are going to be expelled, or at the very least punished, for calling a teacher stupid (or worse) even though the school has no business punishing the kid for that. As far as i'm concirned, facebook/twitter and such might be public places, they're public places OUTSIDE of school.

I very much doubt this will teach kids the real meaning of privacy. Privacy can mean voicing your opinion in a public space having no connection to the other place or person you are being critical of, and thus having no reprocussions from it.

Hell i can't even remember how often me and my friends where in a park on a sunny day, discussing the ridicolous stuff that went on in school. So what, now we should hire companies to bug all public parks with microphones just to see if kids/people say anything bad about whoever hired them?

In my opinion this will just teach kids Fear. Be fearfull of what you say everytime you say it because you never know who's listening. Don't express yourself, you might get in trouble. Don't speak to your friends about whats wrong via your main method of communication (wether we agree with that way or not), better not to communicate at all or just keep the things you say meaningless. Best to be a good little drone, and obey whatever you are told, lest you get in trouble.

This will teach kids to not be critical thinkers, *the* very thing you would want them to learn.


RE: I have no problem with this.
By KFZ on 9/23/2013 12:59:25 PM , Rating: 2
I have a problem with blowing $40K of taxpayer money to catch a few delinquents and minor drug offenders.


I wonder...
By Dr of crap on 9/17/2013 12:28:17 PM , Rating: 3
I still wonder and don't get it WHY no gets it that the home life of these kids is what needs looking into.
Are there no schooled admin that can't see this or would that be racist or some other "ist" that they don't want to be labeled.
What you hear when you have small kids is they are a sponge. Whatever you as the parent does, so will the kid. AND when my kids were small and they had friends over you could tell how the parents were by the way the kids acted and talked. And I don't even have a phy degree!!

Its ALL realted, why can't Johhny read, why are those kids violent, why do some want to kill themselves - PARENTING ! Or to be more focused - the LACK of parenting!

But what do the school districts do? Throw more money at the problem and ask for more money from your pocket to put in place things they "think" will help, yet they never help the home life of the kids - never. These are all band-ads, and do not address the problem of bad or no parenting.

You can yell at me and tell me I don't know what I'm saying. But first stop and think about when you were in school, or your own kids and the kids they are with, be it in sports or just in your home, and see that I'm right. Sponge when they are little and then NEEDING guidance when they get older.




this has to stop
By GulWestfale on 9/17/13, Rating: -1
RE: this has to stop
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/17/2013 10:47:14 AM , Rating: 3

quote:
i think the thought police has to be reined in right now.


John, don't run.
You don't have to chase me.
You don't have to run.
Everybody runs, Fletch.


RE: this has to stop
By Jeffk464 on 9/17/2013 11:52:10 AM , Rating: 2
Is it just me or does it seem like there is a big move to make people fear and be subservient to the government?


RE: this has to stop
By superstition on 9/18/2013 4:02:00 PM , Rating: 2
Yellow Peril. Red Scare. Lavender Scare. And on and on.


RE: this has to stop
By Crucial on 9/17/2013 12:26:13 PM , Rating: 2
Everyone does not have a gun on a navy base. Military bases are gun free zones. So you have a gun free workplace inside of the city with the strictest gun laws in the nation allowing this man to do harm until police arrived minutes later.


RE: this has to stop
By jimbojimbo on 9/17/2013 3:01:01 PM , Rating: 2
If we were even caught with ammunition on base without a good reason we could have been charged. His idea of a military base must be from old Viet Nam war movies.


hi
By aamori on 9/17/13, Rating: -1
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