Next year, California lawmakers will fit homes and buildings with special radio-controlled thermostats to help manage electricity shortages. The utility will transmit a suggested temperature setting through the Internet to local radio transmitters, which will then forward it via radio to the homes.
Consumers are allowed to override the suggested setting if they wish-- except when energy prices are soaring. At that point, the utility can dictate the temperature to reduce electricity demand, and avoid the possibility of outages.
The new rules, circulated by the California Energy Commission, would apply only to new and remodeled homes and buildings, for now. In the future, the program could be expanded to all structures.
Joseph Somsel, a San Jose-based journalist, attacked the proposal as yet another encroachment on civil liberties. He also worries that the signals could potentially be hacked, with possibly severe consequences.
"That's not possible," says California utility PG&E spokesperson Nicole Tam, because, "radio pages are encrypted and encoded."
To others, the state should focus on increasing capacity, rather than forcing residents to reduce demand. In an email to the Energy Commission, a Californian called the prooosal an outrage. "We need to build new facilities to handle the growth in the state, not become Big Brother to the citizens of California," it stated.
quote: People said the same thing when world population hit 800 million,
quote: Ah, but that's just the point. I'm arguing-- with very real evidence-- that those population increases are sustainable. A higher population thus equates to more progress, and a higher standard of living for us all.
quote: Hasn't this sort of Luddite "things man was not meant to know" thinking been discredited enough times already?
quote: Very simple. Because twice the population means twice the number of scientists and engineers advancing progress. It means more musicians, painters, and writers creating art and literature. In short, a better life for everyone.
quote: This impacts not at all the +30% of people that rent, nor the +30% that own their homes outright, nor the sizeable number of folk with traditional mortgages.
quote: Twice the population equates to twice the crime...which is the same crime rate per capita.
quote: Again all calling upon humans to control themselves, something you tend to hate, as your human ideal is someone who sees nothing but $ progression and advancement in science.
quote: People said the same thing when world population hit 800 million, some two centuries ago. And yet today, we're healthier, better fed and housed than ever.
quote: Just extending modern agricultural technology to the Third World will allow global population to hit 12 billion. Assume future advances in technology, and 20+ billion isn't a problem. There really are no barriers to growth.
quote: "So what you are saying then is that we need more wars?"
quote: “We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into the Stone Age.”
quote: Here's another option, maybe it's time for us humans to think about decreasing our population.
quote: Price fixing isn't the perfect solution as it punishes people based upon income.
quote: Also, it's good someone is trying another solution to the energy problem besides building more power plants.
quote: Agreed. The gov't should allow the power companies to build more capacity.
quote: Politics don't solve problems, it creates more.
quote: They would be better spending money to put solar panels up on all the residential houses
quote: Meanwhile, I think I will stay away from the west coast and enjoy southern hospitality for the rest of my life.
quote: Even if global warming does exist and it's caused by man, in California's case it'd still probably make a huge amount of sense to use coal and natural gas -- at least with the present cost of solar panels being what they are.
quote: Just go buy a window unit if they start turning the temp up in the summer.
quote: "That's not possible," says California utility PG&E spokesperson Nicole Tam, because, "radio pages are encrypted and encoded."
quote: from:http://www.jgpress.com/inbusiness/archives/_free/0...Dispatchable peak-shaving involves the use of a battery system to store PV output during off-peak hours and then discharge electricity during on-peak hours to more effectively reduce demand charges. This approach, developed by the Center for Energy and Environmental Policy at the University of Delaware, has been successfully demonstrated in several pilot projects.
quote: those will be made illegal of course
quote: Seriously, just because someone is an advocate for energy conservation and/or environmental protection is labeled as a hippie? Real mature there guys.
quote: I'm not sure if you noticed, but energy conservation is the thing of the future, not because of hippies, but because companies are trying that much harder to become more efficient.
quote: Energy is not an unlimited resource on a day to day basis.