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On the heels of one of its most successful launches in history, NVIDIA sets its sights on AMD's next graphics refresh

NVIDIA's GeForce 8800 GT might be remembered as one of the most successful NVIDIA graphics cards of our time, at least according to the flurry of reviews this week. Virtually every top tier e-tailer managed to sell out of the card in less than two days.

Yet NVIDIA isn't done yet.  A G92-derivative will appear later this year with even more shader units. According to company guidance, the new G92 will launch in early December and feature 128 shader units as opposed to the 112 featured on GeForce 8800 GT. 

This would be mean the additional 16 shader units exist on all GeForce 8800 GT cards, but are disabled for yield or marketing purposes.  In addition to the extra shaders, the new G92 will also feature higher core frequencies and support for up to 1GB GDDR3.

The new 65nm G92 has a tentative SKU designation of GeForce 8800 GTS.  This might sound confusing as NVIDIA already sports a GeForce 8800 GTS card based on the 90nm G80 silicon.  However, since G92 sports a 256-bit memory interface, the new 8800 GTS cards will feature traditional memory blocks of 512MB or 1024MB. The older, G80-based GeForce 8800 GTS features 320-bit memory blocks of 320MB or 640MB.

As the new GeForce 8800 GT generally outpaces the existing GeForce 8800 GTS, the new GeForce 8800 GTS will likely surpass NVIDIA's high-end GeForce 8800 GTX and potentially GeForce 8800 Ultra. 

NVIDIA doesn't just risk cannibalizing its own high-end offerings -- AMD's launch schedule for Radeon HD 3800 (RV670) is slated for just a few days before NVIDIA's G92 re-launch.  AMD corporate guidance suggests the company will launch its Phenom desktop processor and RD790 desktop chipset simultaneously with its new graphics offering.


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Why the confusion?
By AnnihilatorX on 10/31/2007 3:27:48 PM , Rating: 5
I would prefer the newer chips named something along the line of 8850GTS.

Not only does this confuses vulnerable customers, but it also makes educated customer harder to search for these products. How do you search in search engines the newer variants without finding lots of old cards coming up within the search results??




RE: Why the confusion?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Why the confusion?
By AnnihilatorX on 10/31/2007 3:37:47 PM , Rating: 1
Naming like '+' is very hard to search for. Google doesn't like '+', in fact, many punctuation marks.

Although one can search for the term '512MB' or '1024MB' but I am sure other products would come up as well, especially on websites with 'other recommended items' on the same page.


RE: Why the confusion?
By James Holden on 10/31/2007 3:39:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah AMD's 3000+ was one of the most annoying SKUs ever. The "+" almost never propagates from distributors and if it does it gets messed up in some weird way. I'm more in favor of a unique number, though I suspect NVIDIA doesn't mind the confusion.


RE: Why the confusion?
By jebo on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Why the confusion?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: Why the confusion?
By Moose1309 on 10/31/2007 7:08:53 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
you will get websites that contain Microsoft but do not contain "FUD".

You can!?! Where are these FUD-less websites of which you speak?? :D


RE: Why the confusion?
By Yawgm0th on 11/1/2007 12:36:32 AM , Rating: 2
In Google adding a "+" or "-" to the beginning of the word will act as a Boolean "AND" or "NOT", respectively. Searching for "Microsoft - FUD" will not yield different results from searching "Microsoft + FUD" or even "Microsoft FUD", without the quotes of course.

In fact, Google will not use + at all if you put it at the end of a number. Searching for "Athlon XP 3000+" yields the exact same results as "Athlon XP 3000".


RE: Why the confusion?
By lompocus on 11/4/2007 2:58:59 AM , Rating: 1
then thank god nvidia didn't doesn't name the 9xxx series the 9800+, or ati the 3850+...lol


RE: Why the confusion?
By BlitzAceYuna on 11/1/2007 3:39:00 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps you could then type "AMD Athlon XP 3000+" into the search box? ( With the " " s of course )

I'm not exactly sure, but I think that would tell Google to search exactly for : AMD Athlon XP 3000+ .

Feel free to correct me should I be wrong.


RE: Why the confusion?
By Omega215D on 11/1/2007 6:17:06 AM , Rating: 3
I typed in "Microsoft - FUD" with the quotation marks and both terms come up. The quotation marks tell Google to search those terms specifically and in the order that you put them in. And you would use ' ' to add in another part of what you're searching for.

This was "trick" ends up being helpful when narrowing down your searches, especially for quotes.


RE: Why the confusion?
By erikejw on 11/1/2007 11:01:51 AM , Rating: 2
Why would anyone search for -Fud. +Fud was more enlightening.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000097


RE: Why the confusion?
By RamarC on 10/31/2007 4:13:27 PM , Rating: 5
i think they should have brought back a classic and named it the geForce 8800Ti


RE: Why the confusion?
By thartist on 10/31/2007 5:14:08 PM , Rating: 2
Man! that would sell like hell! me likes. sounds superb!


RE: Why the confusion?
By i4mt3hwin on 10/31/2007 5:46:34 PM , Rating: 3
It would be Geforce 8 Ti8800.

But yea, the Geforce 4 Ti4xxx series was amazing.


RE: Why the confusion?
By psocha on 10/31/2007 4:19:53 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know why don't they finally name the 8900 card, I mean, they are beating the Ati 2900xt, so from the marketing point of view it would be favourable. Or at least call them 8850...


RE: Why the confusion?
By keitaro on 10/31/2007 3:43:52 PM , Rating: 2
Thankfully the memory that the 8800GT carries is only 512MB or 256MB. So you can search under those criteria in order to find what you're looking for. Another potential search suggestion would be, if the engine supports it, "GT and not GTS". I know it's nuts trying to find the card you're looking for using a text search. But so far, each card can still be identified by one unique spec part that separates it from the rest.


RE: Why the confusion?
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 3:45:45 PM , Rating: 2
Well the good thing is you can't confuse an older 8800GTS with a G92 one due the different memory sizes. Maybe thats why they don't see an issue.


RE: Why the confusion?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 10/31/2007 3:47:45 PM , Rating: 5
Well you and I can spot the difference. Try explaining that to the majority of people who would buy this though.


RE: Why the confusion?
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 3:52:16 PM , Rating: 3
You have a point....people are stupid....


RE: Why the confusion?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 10/31/2007 4:08:22 PM , Rating: 5
Well I wouldn't call it stupidity at all. Remember the Radeon 9800 SE? How could the average consumer possibly know that it was a horribly mislabeled card?