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On the heels of one of its most successful launches in history, NVIDIA sets its sights on AMD's next graphics refresh

NVIDIA's GeForce 8800 GT might be remembered as one of the most successful NVIDIA graphics cards of our time, at least according to the flurry of reviews this week. Virtually every top tier e-tailer managed to sell out of the card in less than two days.

Yet NVIDIA isn't done yet.  A G92-derivative will appear later this year with even more shader units. According to company guidance, the new G92 will launch in early December and feature 128 shader units as opposed to the 112 featured on GeForce 8800 GT. 

This would be mean the additional 16 shader units exist on all GeForce 8800 GT cards, but are disabled for yield or marketing purposes.  In addition to the extra shaders, the new G92 will also feature higher core frequencies and support for up to 1GB GDDR3.

The new 65nm G92 has a tentative SKU designation of GeForce 8800 GTS.  This might sound confusing as NVIDIA already sports a GeForce 8800 GTS card based on the 90nm G80 silicon.  However, since G92 sports a 256-bit memory interface, the new 8800 GTS cards will feature traditional memory blocks of 512MB or 1024MB. The older, G80-based GeForce 8800 GTS features 320-bit memory blocks of 320MB or 640MB.

As the new GeForce 8800 GT generally outpaces the existing GeForce 8800 GTS, the new GeForce 8800 GTS will likely surpass NVIDIA's high-end GeForce 8800 GTX and potentially GeForce 8800 Ultra. 

NVIDIA doesn't just risk cannibalizing its own high-end offerings -- AMD's launch schedule for Radeon HD 3800 (RV670) is slated for just a few days before NVIDIA's G92 re-launch.  AMD corporate guidance suggests the company will launch its Phenom desktop processor and RD790 desktop chipset simultaneously with its new graphics offering.


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Why the confusion?
By AnnihilatorX on 10/31/2007 3:27:48 PM , Rating: 5
I would prefer the newer chips named something along the line of 8850GTS.

Not only does this confuses vulnerable customers, but it also makes educated customer harder to search for these products. How do you search in search engines the newer variants without finding lots of old cards coming up within the search results??




RE: Why the confusion?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Why the confusion?
By AnnihilatorX on 10/31/2007 3:37:47 PM , Rating: 1
Naming like '+' is very hard to search for. Google doesn't like '+', in fact, many punctuation marks.

Although one can search for the term '512MB' or '1024MB' but I am sure other products would come up as well, especially on websites with 'other recommended items' on the same page.


RE: Why the confusion?
By James Holden on 10/31/2007 3:39:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah AMD's 3000+ was one of the most annoying SKUs ever. The "+" almost never propagates from distributors and if it does it gets messed up in some weird way. I'm more in favor of a unique number, though I suspect NVIDIA doesn't mind the confusion.


RE: Why the confusion?
By jebo on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Why the confusion?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: Why the confusion?
By Moose1309 on 10/31/2007 7:08:53 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
you will get websites that contain Microsoft but do not contain "FUD".

You can!?! Where are these FUD-less websites of which you speak?? :D


RE: Why the confusion?
By Yawgm0th on 11/1/2007 12:36:32 AM , Rating: 2
In Google adding a "+" or "-" to the beginning of the word will act as a Boolean "AND" or "NOT", respectively. Searching for "Microsoft - FUD" will not yield different results from searching "Microsoft + FUD" or even "Microsoft FUD", without the quotes of course.

In fact, Google will not use + at all if you put it at the end of a number. Searching for "Athlon XP 3000+" yields the exact same results as "Athlon XP 3000".


RE: Why the confusion?
By lompocus on 11/4/2007 2:58:59 AM , Rating: 1
then thank god nvidia didn't doesn't name the 9xxx series the 9800+, or ati the 3850+...lol


RE: Why the confusion?
By BlitzAceYuna on 11/1/2007 3:39:00 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps you could then type "AMD Athlon XP 3000+" into the search box? ( With the " " s of course )

I'm not exactly sure, but I think that would tell Google to search exactly for : AMD Athlon XP 3000+ .

Feel free to correct me should I be wrong.


RE: Why the confusion?
By Omega215D on 11/1/2007 6:17:06 AM , Rating: 3
I typed in "Microsoft - FUD" with the quotation marks and both terms come up. The quotation marks tell Google to search those terms specifically and in the order that you put them in. And you would use ' ' to add in another part of what you're searching for.

This was "trick" ends up being helpful when narrowing down your searches, especially for quotes.


RE: Why the confusion?
By erikejw on 11/1/2007 11:01:51 AM , Rating: 2
Why would anyone search for -Fud. +Fud was more enlightening.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000097


RE: Why the confusion?
By RamarC on 10/31/2007 4:13:27 PM , Rating: 5
i think they should have brought back a classic and named it the geForce 8800Ti


RE: Why the confusion?
By thartist on 10/31/2007 5:14:08 PM , Rating: 2
Man! that would sell like hell! me likes. sounds superb!


RE: Why the confusion?
By i4mt3hwin on 10/31/2007 5:46:34 PM , Rating: 3
It would be Geforce 8 Ti8800.

But yea, the Geforce 4 Ti4xxx series was amazing.


RE: Why the confusion?
By psocha on 10/31/2007 4:19:53 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know why don't they finally name the 8900 card, I mean, they are beating the Ati 2900xt, so from the marketing point of view it would be favourable. Or at least call them 8850...


RE: Why the confusion?
By keitaro on 10/31/2007 3:43:52 PM , Rating: 2
Thankfully the memory that the 8800GT carries is only 512MB or 256MB. So you can search under those criteria in order to find what you're looking for. Another potential search suggestion would be, if the engine supports it, "GT and not GTS". I know it's nuts trying to find the card you're looking for using a text search. But so far, each card can still be identified by one unique spec part that separates it from the rest.


RE: Why the confusion?
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 3:45:45 PM , Rating: 2
Well the good thing is you can't confuse an older 8800GTS with a G92 one due the different memory sizes. Maybe thats why they don't see an issue.


RE: Why the confusion?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 10/31/2007 3:47:45 PM , Rating: 5
Well you and I can spot the difference. Try explaining that to the majority of people who would buy this though.


RE: Why the confusion?
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 3:52:16 PM , Rating: 3
You have a point....people are stupid....


RE: Why the confusion?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 10/31/2007 4:08:22 PM , Rating: 5
Well I wouldn't call it stupidity at all. Remember the Radeon 9800 SE? How could the average consumer possibly know that it was a horribly mislabeled card?


RE: Why the confusion?
By ziggo on 10/31/2007 4:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
Its very confusing. What about the poor sap that buys a GTS640 thinking its superior to the GTS512?

They have to change the number or something, if it was something like a stepping change improvement on a processor I could understand. But this thing is likely to out perform everything else on the market. Its not like they dont have any numbers left in the 8 series. USE THEM, the 9 series is where the new development will be soon enough.


RE: Why the confusion?
By Alpha4 on 10/31/2007 8:15:10 PM , Rating: 2
Soon... Not soon enough. ;)


RE: Why the confusion?
By rudy on 10/31/2007 10:18:49 PM , Rating: 2
honestly though this is what they want. Say you gave it a whole new name every time you refreshed, the second you did that the old cards would be really hard to sell. You can see this in the auto industry at the end of the year they have to drop the prices on cars like crazy to dump them. But the thing is honestly from 1 year to the next there is nothing that is really that much better about a new car. Every processing unit company does these sorts of things. For CPUs we look for the core name like san diego if we are knowledgeable. And at the same time the retailers can still sell off their older cores to the less knowledgeable.


RE: Why the confusion?
By Alpha4 on 11/1/2007 6:27:50 PM , Rating: 2
I think we should be thankful. It is this marketing practice that perhaps will enable Nvidia to sell 8800gts 512 so cheaply in the first place.

Let the noobs pay for our discount, so to speak.


RE: Why the confusion?
By imaheadcase on 11/1/2007 12:07:44 AM , Rating: 2
They should just name them so consumers know what they are getting.

Slow
medium
Fast

Other series in between they can put really slow or really fast. :P


RE: Why the confusion?
By exanimas on 11/1/2007 2:18:50 AM , Rating: 4
Yes, because who wouldn't want the brand new 9800SLOW. =)


RE: Why the confusion?
By afkrotch on 11/3/2007 9:14:04 AM , Rating: 2
You can always just take the first 2 characters.

8800SL, 8800ME, and 8800FA. Course you can use gamer jargon.

8800 Elite, 8800 Uber, and 8800 Quad Dmg.


RE: Why the confusion?
By euclidean on 11/1/2007 12:29:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
They should just name them so consumers know what they are getting.

Slow
medium
Fast


You just made my day! thank you! lol


RE: Why the confusion?
By Procurion on 11/7/2007 10:43:14 AM , Rating: 2
I remember that the 9800 pro had two flavors-interface I think it was. One had 128 and the other was 256 I think? Several of my friends saw them go on sale at Fry's for $175 and they went and bought several during lunch. They got the inferior version and were pissed. They now hiss whenever ATI is mentioned.

It is deliberate, guys/gals. There is so much change and these companies depend on misinformation. People see your nice gaming setup or your SLI quad-core workstation and then see an ad from TD or Fry's. All they know are the generalities. They are NOT stupid, they just have better things to do with their time than we do, I guess.

So they buy that special and find out later that Intel has 11 different versions of that chip with various arcane methods for figuring out specifics. No white papers are available on a lot of products, either. Sites like AT and DT get information that the public might need, but can't get. Try and find out anything really usefull about a video card on either ATI or Nvidia's website sometime-it is the state of computer products in general.

The real problem is the idiot trying to fool you into buying a lesser product because they deliberately obsfuscate in order to clear their shelves.


RE: Why the confusion?
By DeepBlue1975 on 10/31/2007 4:24:12 PM , Rating: 2
I think that if Nvidia and review sites make the fact clear (that is: stating that new products won't have 320 or 640mb any longer) people should be able to spot the difference.

If people who go out to buy a new card don't look at nvidia's site nor any reviewer's site, then I'm sure they won't care about the difference at all and even I could bet that he who goes out to buy a new card most of the time will get advise from internet first.


RE: Why the confusion?
By Yawgm0th on 11/1/2007 12:40:16 AM , Rating: 2
That won't help that much. Anyone reading review sites should know.

Unless the price is adjusted accordingly, you can count on people buying 640MB 8800GTS, thinking it's superior to a 512MB 8800GTS.


RE: Why the confusion?
By AssassinX on 10/31/2007 4:37:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I would prefer the newer chips named something along the line of 8850GTS.


I agree with you and I also think they should have not referred the chip as G92 but G8X. *shrug*

quote:
How do you search in search engines the newer variants without finding lots of old cards coming up within the search results??


This may sound like an arduous task but I know in google you can click "advanced search" and in the date section you can specify past 24 hours, etc... but now I guess you will have to do "8800gts" + "512MB" or "1024MB"


RE: Why the confusion?
By AnnihilatorX on 10/31/2007 10:16:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This may sound like an arduous task but I know in google you can click "advanced search" and in the date section you can specify past 24 hours, etc... but now I guess you will have to do "8800gts" + "512MB" or "1024MB"


I had a think of that but I am sure it's not going to be precise, e.g. sites with 'Recommended alternative products' on the same page as a G92 8800GT. False positives will definitely pop up.


RE: Why the confusion?
By AzureKevin on 10/31/2007 5:22:01 PM , Rating: 5
I don't understand why they didn't just call it the 8900GT, like they did with the previous GeForce 7 series.


RE: Why the confusion?
By KiDDGuY on 10/31/2007 11:41:07 PM , Rating: 2
maybe they got something else planned up their sleeves for the 8900 or such naming scheme ..., who knows ?
for now we are unable to see up their ..., sleeves .. :D


RE: Why the confusion?
By hwoarang5 on 11/1/2007 3:53:49 AM , Rating: 2
i wouldnt worry though cause by the time the card is launched manufacture wont be that dumb to just label 8800gts, lolz, brands like evga or xfx will put fancy names on them, like alpha puppies , SSSSSSXX overclock edition, lolz


RE: Why the confusion?
By Serlant on 11/1/2007 6:32:40 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe you could try putting 512mb or 1GB on the end instead of 320 or 640MB?


Good news for 8800GT buyers
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 3:51:01 PM , Rating: 5
Can you say shader unlock? If the shaders are there, you'll likely just have to reflash to an 8800GTS BIOS. Of course, if one of the shaders is bad, you're screwed.

Hopefully Nvidia didn't put any kind of sly preventions on re-enabling the extra shaders and the chips are just ones that wouldn't clock to the higher speeds.

I remember the old 256-bit 9500s that were essentially 9700s with half the pipelines disabled. I tried to cash in on this but unfortunately made the mistake of getting a 128-bit card instead of a 256-bit one. Sucked.




RE: Good news for 8800GT buyers
By Marlowe on 10/31/2007 5:25:50 PM , Rating: 2
Why the HECK are you downrated my man? That would be awesome indeed. Did the same thing to my old X800Pro -> X800XT or what ever it was :)


RE: Good news for 8800GT buyers
By shabby on 10/31/2007 6:35:49 PM , Rating: 2
Ati/nvidia did away with free unlocks with the gf7 and x1800, no more unlocking for anyone.


RE: Good news for 8800GT buyers
By Egglick on 10/31/2007 7:49:12 PM , Rating: 2
All 9500's were 128-bit. The 9500Pro had 8 pipelines like the 9700, while the regular 9500 only had 4.


RE: Good news for 8800GT buyers
By Avalon on 10/31/2007 10:04:07 PM , Rating: 2
Wrong. There were both 256bit and 128bit Radeon 9500 non pro cards. The 256bit cards were just Radeon 9700's that had 4/8 pixel pipelines locked down in the driver...some were defective, but others worked just fine. I had quite a few.


RE: Good news for 8800GT buyers
By IvanAndreevich on 11/1/2007 2:43:19 AM , Rating: 2
Oh yeah. I had a Radeon 9500 256-bit with 8 pipes enabled and overclocked 275/270 -> 425/310. That has to be my most favorite card ever. With AA and AF I had 300% performance of the stock card. Never since then has such an amazing performance been possible for such a small budget (around $250 it was).


By otispunkmeyer on 11/1/2007 9:04:58 AM , Rating: 2
yeah the 9500 really was one of the all time greats. unfortunately i bought the pro version with its 128bit bus, but damn that thing clocked like lunatic

like yours i got it above 400 with ease, and the best thing was that it was an absolute bargain at the time at less than £130. i still use the thing today it still runs alot of todays games just fine (albiet now with toned down res/details). its my longest serving piece of hardware and im never gonna get rid of it.

damn there should be a Ati Radeon 9500 appreciation society or something. it was a damn fine piece of PCB and silicon


A new (old) GTS, and a new (new) GTS?
By JSK on 10/31/2007 8:03:47 PM , Rating: 2
Is someone asleep at the wheel here? The gossip sites, or Nvidia?

There are already new (g80) GTS's showing up at mwave with the increased shaders, labeled SSC cards from evga.

Now you are telling me there are going to be TWO MORE GTS's based on the g92?

making a total of 5 GTS cards from Nvidia?

wtfm8




RE: A new (old) GTS, and a new (new) GTS?
By xbbdc on 11/1/2007 12:34:21 AM , Rating: 2
where do you see that? link?

on the evga site, it shows the 8800gts with "96+" shaders... but not increased as of yet.


By JSK on 11/1/2007 2:26:49 AM , Rating: 2
http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php?mode=showth...

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria...

your right, at mwave its listed as 96+. but what else would it be? seems the final details just arent showing up.

The ncix guys seem insist its a G80 part.


RE: A new (old) GTS, and a new (new) GTS?
By blwest on 11/1/2007 10:26:17 AM , Rating: 2
Or you could just read the anandtech.com article on the topic...


By JSK on 11/1/2007 2:46:19 PM , Rating: 2
sure, you show me the article.

oh this is the only one that discusses it. thanks


1Gb Video Ram= 4gb address limit lowered to 3gb?
By jtemplin on 10/31/2007 6:59:04 PM , Rating: 4
So will this 1Gb card further the problem of address space in 32-bit OS? From what I understand from the Anand articles on the topic, the answer is yes, and please correct me if I am mistaken.

Also interesting to see Crysis performing better on 64-bit, by about 15% or so. Perhaps the time of 64-bit is nigh. The death knell for 32-bit can be faintly heard and as the cheap 1024mb video ram cards propagate, the consumers will start to be exposed more and more to the problems of 32-bit address space limits.




By pauldovi on 10/31/2007 9:10:20 PM , Rating: 2
Well 32 bit can address 2^32 bits of data (4GB). If the video ram is 1GB then the room left for system memory will be less than 3GB (other devices use memory).

So yes you are mostly correct. However the limit will actually be a tad bit less that 3GB for your system memory.


By robertgu2k on 11/1/2007 12:28:23 PM , Rating: 3
Well according to this Microsoft Hotfix article: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/94010...

If you install that Hotfix, the memory size of the video card will no longer affect the available virtual memory address issue which was demonstrated in the Anand article.

So the video card memory size will not use up valuable virtual memory space anymore, however, games are still getting closer and closer that 32-bit limit regardless.

I too see the death knell for 32-bit which is why I went through the "pain" of being an early adopter or Vista 64-bit. The first few months (Jan-April) was tricky since 64-bit drivers were terrible. But with the current generation of drivers, the 64-bit Vista has been a pleasure, and the performance gap is nearly entirely closed for most apps and in special cases; Vista 64-bit is faster than 32-bit as you pointed out.


great news
By R3MF on 10/31/2007 5:34:29 PM , Rating: 3
i dislike cut-down products.




RE: great news
By mathew7 on 11/1/2007 6:27:09 AM , Rating: 5
In other words, you would pay 100% more to not get 10-15% cut?
The problem is the chip yelds. If you sell only the perfect chips, you have to increase the price to compensate for the losses (not-perfect chips). By accepting a certain imperfection (like up to 16 ot of 128 SP's), they can get 2 types of chips to market priced differently, but instead of 20% (out of total production) sold chips, they have 70% sold chips. So even the "perfect" chips can be sold cheaper, thus narrowing the gap of the price/performance. It's proven economics.


Promising season
By TheDiceman on 10/31/2007 3:35:52 PM , Rating: 1
Looks like it will be promising season for GPUs. Shame I already got a 2900PRO. Although, so far all the the 8800GTs I have seen are PCIe 2.0 which my mobo doesn't support anyway.




RE: Promising season
By webdawg77 on 10/31/2007 3:37:40 PM , Rating: 4
PCIe 2.0 devices will work in PCIe 1.1 MBs and vice versa.


RE: Promising season
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 3:56:45 PM , Rating: 2
Also, provided you're running 16x PCI-E lanes (dual 16x lanes for SLI), you're not even coming close to saturating the PCI-E bus with current cards. It'll be a while before we need PCI-E 2.0.

Even with dual 8x lanes for SLI on current top cards, theres a minimal impact on performance. Unless you're maybe trying to run at 2560x1600.


This confirms a new flagship.
By pauldovi on 10/31/2007 4:53:44 PM , Rating: 5
Clearly Nvidia will be launching a new flag shipped (8900 / 9800) series graphics card. This pretty much confirms it. I am guessing it will coincide with the Crysis launch?

Why else would you launch a "Tier 2" (8800GTS reborn) graphics card as fast as your current flagship?




Disabled Shaders
By Aquila76 on 10/31/2007 3:49:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This would be mean the additional 16 shader units exist on all GeForce 8800 GT cards, but are disabled for yield or marketing purposes.


How sick would that be if this was like the old 6800LE (I think it was that card) that you could unlock to a 6800GT? Somebody with $250 to burn, please research this!




RE: Disabled Shaders
By Dabruuzer on 10/31/2007 4:03:49 PM , Rating: 2
I have the 6800GS (AGP) and was able to do as you say with it. :)


Does that one also NOT have DX10.1
By DingieM on 11/1/2007 4:46:54 AM , Rating: 4
DX10.1 might not yet be a "sounding" feature, but its going to be mandatory rather sooner than later and for that I think its the investment worth.

So I think its a rather poor decision of nVidia to let it out.




By crystal clear on 11/1/2007 11:21:29 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
AMD corporate guidance suggests the company will launch its Phenom desktop processor and RD790 desktop chipset simultaneously with its new graphics offering.




Pictures of AMD Phenom 9600 processor and CPU-Z screen shot. The name of the CPU is Phenom X4 with codename Agena. It is rated 65nm at a core voltage of 0.976v. The processor is labelled Phenom 9600 clocked at 2.3GHz. The CPU is installed on a NF560 chipset mainboard, that is the reason you see the HT is set to 1GHz. It has 512K L2 cache and 2M L3 cache.


http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=98d...

AMD/ATI whitepaper-October 2007

ATI's DirectX 10.1 white paper refers to AMD's next-gen GPU line as the ATI Radeon™ HD 3800. It is entirely possible that this white paper was released on accident.

http://www.teamati.com/DirectX%2010_1%20White%20Pa...




By crystal clear on 11/1/2007 11:48:43 AM , Rating: 2
Read this paper carefully & you know it all- whats coming.


You can do better nvidia
By lagomorpha on 11/1/2007 1:02:45 AM , Rating: 2
seeing as how it's a little late to go to the 8900 series for this one and it's faster than the 8800GTS I was hoping for 8800GTR




Nice article
By blwest on 11/1/2007 10:23:53 AM , Rating: 2
Except mine was delivered from evga on 10/31/07. At least this wasn't a paper launch, where you wait 4 months for the product to come out.




How about geforce 8600Gt
By Copystars on 11/4/2007 3:50:07 AM , Rating: 2
The price for 8600GT is still well below 8800GT. http://www.copystars.com/geforce-8-video-card-gefo...
is selling at $113 with 512mb ram.




proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By Mitch101 on 10/31/2007 3:30:34 PM , Rating: 4
How to identify the difference.

OLD 8800 GTS (320MB or 640MB)
NEW 8800 GTS (512MB or 1024MB)


RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By James Holden on 10/31/2007 3:37:11 PM , Rating: 4
So obvious that nobody knows what you're talking about.


RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By James Holden on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By webdawg77 on 10/31/2007 3:44:51 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
G80 has 320-bit or 384-bit


Why that is true, the comment says that the current "8800GTS" only has a 320-bit memory interface. That is, in fact, correct.


RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 10/31/2007 3:45:28 PM , Rating: 5
It should read 256-bit and 320-bit respectively. The 384-bit addressing is only used on the 8800 GTX and Ultra -- there are two G80 derivatives.


RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 3:53:58 PM , Rating: 4
This whole thread line was hilarious to read.


RE: proof read?
By bupkus on 10/31/2007 6:04:01 PM , Rating: 2
"Moe, Larry, the cheese"
"Moe, Larry, the cheese"
Whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo

Visualize Curly Howard doing the pinwheel after reading this thread.


RE: proof read?
By maverick85wd on 10/31/2007 8:33:49 PM , Rating: 2
lol god I miss watching re-runs of that show with my dad on sunday mornings :)


RE: proof read?
By Alpha4 on 10/31/2007 8:24:40 PM , Rating: 2
I'm 90% sure there was a massive typo that was revised after Toyota quoted it and we, the readers, aren't aware of it. In such case Toyota's post is perfectly valid, so you guys can stop down rating now.


RE: proof read?
By Haltech on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: proof read?
By Alpha4 on 11/1/2007 6:33:10 PM , Rating: 2
LMAO. Case in point, you just got down rated for the same thing possibly. Probably by nubs who thought you were being derrogatory instead of stating a fact. Either that or the down-rating bug got you.


RE: proof read?
By XtremeM3 on 11/1/2007 1:40:52 AM , Rating: 3
Yeah but everyone knows your an arrogant ass.

But hey if it makes you feel better to come out with an arrogant tone and nit pick over some flip-flopped stats. And IMHO, knowing the difference between the G80 and G92, does not make you the god of video cards. And not knowing it doesn't mean that one doesn't "have a clue about video cards."

You're one of those people that likes to make a comment such as your first one with a quote and "OMG look at those obvious mistakes!" Then hope in anticipation for someone to say, "Mistakes?" Then ride in on your high horse with "OMG!!!111ones!1 your such a moron! How do you dress yourself in the morning!!"

Funny....


RE: proof read?
By Mitch101 on 10/31/2007 3:56:05 PM , Rating: 3
I dont care about the underlying design. I only care if it plays the games I want at 1680x1050 resolution with decent framerates.

Review sites will tell me how good the card and if it will play those games at decent framerates and I can easily idenitify the card by the 512MB or 1024MB packaging.

Wasnt picking on your comments. Just simplifying the information.

As you know the people posting dont get to vote on comments. I confused a E.SATA port with it being an HDMI port the other day and got knocked. Mistakes happen to both the poster and the article writers. Dont take the voting too seriously.

Of course I might get a T-shirt that says Higher than 2.15 rating on Daily Tech.


RE: proof read?
By johnsonx on 11/1/2007 1:22:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Of course I might get a T-shirt that says Higher than 2.15 rating on Daily Tech.


Not bad... mine got as high as 2.16, but then I said a few things someone didn't like, and also had a whole string of comments that were just ignored... once you go above 2.0, you've got to keep being clever, witty, or at least extremely relevant to keep getting up-rated. Now I'm down to 2.09 or something like that.

It's occurred to me that it would be interesting to know who has the highest post rating, most posts, lowest post rating (cornfedone? beenthere?), etc. But such a 'standings' chart would no doubt produce all matter of bad behaviour...


RE: proof read?
By rdeegvainl on 11/2/2007 8:52:52 AM , Rating: 2
so you actually keep track of your number of posts and your ratings for this or do you have a tool to do it automatically.


RE: proof read?
By johnsonx on 11/4/2007 1:14:01 PM , Rating: 2
click your name in the heading of your post. See?

BTW, I don't check that because I want to know my post rating (though it is interesting to see), but rather to go back and check on responses to my posts. I often don't remember exactly which articles I posted to, so that's a handy way to check my last few posts for any responses.


RE: proof read?
By AnnihilatorX on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/2007 3:38:31 PM , Rating: 1
what is wrong with you? the G92 has 256-bit NOT 128-bit and the current 8800gts has 320-bit NOT 384-bit. now do you understand the mistakes?


RE: proof read?
By James Holden on 10/31/2007 3:41:12 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't G80 6*64 bit? And G92 is 2*64?


RE: proof read?
By ShadowZERO on 10/31/2007 3:42:17 PM , Rating: 2
You beat me by a half minute. I was going to point out the exact same thing, until my login refreshed the page and you did.


RE: proof read?
By slacker57 on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: proof read?
By Black Rainbow on 10/31/2007 5:25:52 PM , Rating: 1
Oh, please forgive our plain stupidity and our failure to be as perfect as you so obviously are!!!


RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: proof read?
By Aarnando on 10/31/2007 5:52:32 PM , Rating: 2
Your level of intensity is frightening.


RE: proof read?
By toyota on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: proof read?
By Gibby82 on 11/1/07, Rating: 0
RE: proof read?
By Serlant on 11/1/07, Rating: 0
RE: proof read?
By webdawg77 on 10/31/2007 3:40:54 PM , Rating: 1
Just like using i.e. or "that is" instead of e.g. or "for example"? Sorry, just had to do it :).


RE: proof read?
By CrystalBay on 10/31/2007 6:13:01 PM , Rating: 1
what does (sic) mean when used in a phrase...

Thanks


RE: proof read?
By darkpaw on 10/31/2007 8:00:09 PM , Rating: 1
It's used when directly quoting another text or someone to indicate a grammar/spelling error was part of the original text.


RE: proof read?
By Yawgm0th on 11/1/2007 12:49:52 AM , Rating: 2
In this case, i.e. would be more accurate than e.g. It is being used more as a "therefore" or "accordingly" than a "for example." But nice try.


RE: proof read?
By maverick85wd on 10/31/2007 8:38:29 PM , Rating: 2
just out of curiosity, can you even rate comments with an average comment rating of 1.20?

apparently you will get rated down for being abrasive and bashing people for their opinions on DT. Imagine that...


RE: proof read?
By lagitup on 10/31/2007 8:53:17 PM , Rating: 2
I would just like to congratulate everyone who took part in this debate. Your reward: national recognition!! If you dress up in any costume and go to someone whose porch light is on's house, you will get free candy tonight and tonight only! Gratz all!
-lag


RE: proof read?
By Coca Cola on 10/31/2007 11:58:47 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
This might sound confusing as NVIDIA already sports a GeForce 8800 GTS card, one based on the 90nm G80 silicon. However, since G92 sports a 128-bit memory interface, the new 8800 GTS cards will feature traditional memory blocks (512MB or 1024MB) as opposed to the 384-bit memory blocks on G80 (320MB or 640MB).


I was going to comment on this too, but you were the first poster...I'm glad I didn't because I would have been knocked down a peg or two without deserving it like you have.

I guess the writer shouldn't edit like everyone else can't, or at least have a bold text edit: where he corrects it, leaving the original text in place, that way people won't be downrate happy....Please don't downrate me...lol

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