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No matter how impressive the Ferrari F430's fabulous V8 engine may be, some British politicians want diesel and gasoline engines on the endangered species list.
British Liberal Democrats call for an end to fossil fuel-based automobiles

Over the past 10 years, automotive manufacturers have become increasingly aware of their vehicles’ impact on the environment. Honda and Toyota were two of the first innovators in the hybrid-electric market with the Insight and Prius. The promise of hybrid vehicles was that by relying more on electric motors and batteries for propulsion, gasoline consumption would in turn drop.

Other manufacturers have been somewhat slow to release hybrid vehicles at the same rate as automotive giant Toyota. The Japanese auto manufacturer currently has six hybrids (three from Toyota, three from Lexus) in its portfolio and plans to make its entire range hybrid-capable by 2020.

Hybrids are definitely a critical step to making highly efficient vehicles – both gasoline-electric and diesel-electric -- that rely less on fossil fuels. Hybrids have given auto manufacturers expertise in advanced battery technology and electric drive motor development.

If some British politicians were to have their way, however, no new vehicles sold in the United Kingdom would be powered gasoline or diesel by the year 2040. The first step to less dependence on fossil fuels will be higher taxes on the thirstiest vehicles.

British Liberal Democrats are proposing a £2000 (roughly $4,000 USD) yearly tax on gas-guzzling SUVs. The hope is that the tax will dissuade consumers from purchasing inefficient vehicles and hence persuade auto manufacturers to further develop efficient all-electric and fuel cell vehicles.

Manufacturers are currently working on both all-electric and fuel cell prototypes for the near future. General Motors is hard at work on its Volt which will be made available in electric and hydrogen fuel cell versions. Ford has also demonstrated its fuel cell capabilities with the HySeries Drive system while Honda plans to make its production fuel cell sedan available to a select few in 2008.

It remains to be seen how feasible such an initiative could possibly be. Auto manufacturers would surely lobby hard against such actions and European companies like Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini have prided themselves on years of developing potent gasoline engines. A Ferrari with a whining electric motor just doesn’t quite have the same appeal as a screaming V-12 or turbocharged flat-6.



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Technology of Tomorrow
By marsbound2024 on 9/18/2007 3:39:44 PM , Rating: 2
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It remains to be seen how feasible such an initiative could possibly be. Auto manufacturers would surely lobby hard against such actions and European companies like Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini have prided themselves on years of developing potent gasoline engines. A Ferrari with a whining electric motor just doesn’t quite have the same appeal as a screaming V-12 or turbocharged flat-6.


I am assuming that by 2040, the technology used won't be as powerless as the technology of today. It is quite likely that the future non-fossil-fuel engines will deliver enough power while delivering a satisfying vroom. Of course we may not see the same wonderful roar, but I am sure there will be some voice of power eminating from under our hoods. Let the technology mature before assuming that in 2040 we'll all be buzzing around at 60mph on 85 horsepower electric engines.

PS: The environment is of much greater concern than 0-60 in less than five seconds and hearing that satisfying roar of the engine. I am not just referring to the theory of global warming. Acid rain, smog, oil spills, and other effects from the use of fossil fuels damage the environment and the organisms that inhabit this planet. It is our responsibility as humans to oversee the safety of the planet and everything that inhabits it. To do otherwise will be to lose our morality, our direction and our humanity. Besides, gas is not cheap.




RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By diskmagnet on 9/18/2007 3:50:11 PM , Rating: 4
"How many kW you got under that hood"


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By Gul Westfale on 9/18/2007 3:53:14 PM , Rating: 2
the ferrari 430 has about 490 horsepower which is about 360kW. there's also 465NM of torque, not bad for such a high-output, small displacement engine.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By joex444 on 9/18/2007 4:12:58 PM , Rating: 2
Haha, looks like you meant "How many Ah you got."


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By colonelclaw on 9/19/2007 8:45:25 AM , Rating: 1
engine...

car...

car that transforms...

transformers...

Megan Fox!

hate to say it, but you used the wrong picture to illustrate this piece


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By vortmax on 9/18/2007 3:54:06 PM , Rating: 3
I generally agree with most of your post..good post. The last sentance is a little hard to digest:
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To do otherwise will be to lose our morality, our direction and our humanity.

What is our morality? Most people are living with variable morals anyway so to state that we'll lose our morality is not accurate. Now if you believe in moral absolutes, then we've pretty much already lost our morality.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By clovell on 9/18/2007 4:14:23 PM , Rating: 2
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Now if you believe in moral absolutes, then we've pretty much already lost our morality.


That seems to be a rather absolute statement.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By vortmax on 9/18/2007 4:17:39 PM , Rating: 2
It was meant to be... :)


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By TheGreek on 9/19/2007 2:20:34 PM , Rating: 2
If he or she is a really good lobbyist then the politician will take the money, do their bidding, and feel like he's moral, and be blinded to the ramifications, all at the same time.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By Samus on 9/18/2007 4:19:55 PM , Rating: 2
We've been using gasoline as a fuel for internal combustion for 150 years. Are they saying we've been living the past 150 years in shame?


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By Crassus on 9/19/2007 11:27:23 AM , Rating: 2
Looking back, the gas/diesel engine was a gigantic step forward from horse-drawn carts. CO2 is certainly better than droppings of slowly decomposing solid waste, not to mention "fuel economy".
But technology moved forward in the past 150 years, and we've been for quite some years now capable of moving forward. It's a shame that we don't have the will, even though we have the technology.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By Runiteshark on 9/18/07, Rating: 0
RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By darkpuppet on 9/18/2007 4:06:18 PM , Rating: 3
Um, minivans have waaay more space than SUVs... SUVS are a pretty big waste of space, but they look pretty -- that's about it. Not to mention your Hummer H2 won't fare much better offroad than your typical sedan.

People with families are better served with wagons and minivans -- I have yet to see someone take their $100,000 G-wagon offroading in my city yet...


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By themadmilkman on 9/18/2007 4:33:29 PM , Rating: 2
Way to take half of one sentence out of context. He stated that there are families with more than one kid that ALSO do outdoor activities that may require an SUV. It's why I drive one. I need a vehicle that can hold me, my wife, and our two kids, but I ALSO need a vehicle that won't get stuck where I drive it.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By acer905 on 9/18/2007 4:36:32 PM , Rating: 2
You left out the entire "haul" part. Personally i don't think i've ever seen a minivan pull a 25' travel trailer.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By darkpuppet on 9/18/2007 5:17:54 PM , Rating: 3
can't say I've seen them haul a 25ft trialer, but I've seen minivans hauling trailers that dwarf them...

You may want to ask why if you have a car (say a ford focus) in europe, and in the US -- same model, engines, etc...

how come that same car in the UK has nearly 4x the towing capacity?

It's probably due to what the manufacturer had it certified for by the local government. And it makes no sense to have a car rated with the same towing capacity in the US as a truck... you'd be creating competition amongs the leading brands.

And then consider for a moment as well, that the VAST majority of SUV sales aren't for families with 4 kids that want to haul a 25ft trailer up a mountainside. I've never seen more than a couple of bikes latched to the hitch of that $100,000 G-Wagon down the street or the Cayenne.

If you need an SUV, that's fine.. if you have the money for a 25ft trailer, then you'd probably have some money left over for your gas tax. The rest of us can throw our 3 kids in the wagon with tents and sleeping bags to get our outdoor fix.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By theapparition on 9/19/2007 7:55:57 AM , Rating: 2
Great, and then maybe you can tell everyone what they need to drive. Why stop there. Why do we need cars at all. When someone takes your car away, we'll see how quickly you'll change your tune. I'm for freedom of choice . That choice may cost more (in Europe, it already does in some areas), but don't remove my choice.

And that focus in Europe is not the exact same model. There are tons of extras that go into US vehicules for safety and emmisions regulations that are not required in the EU.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By TheGreek on 9/19/2007 3:00:34 PM , Rating: 3
Consider this. CAFE standards came about before the public could buy a Hummer. If they had never been enacted then perhaps what would have been introduced, and much more of a potential market failure, would be a low-tech Hummer, without FI and such. The gloom and doom of the original CAFE standards that Detroit cried about was one big myth. After it became law, then we got 500 hp V-10 Vipers and 'Vettes that get close to 30 mpg. The law improved the nation's average mpg and it doesn't appear to have dented your ability to choose one bit, it may have even made it better. God knows how many short sided idiots would still be buying vehicles with carbs on them had the existing laws not been imposed, that nasty government.

And some fundamentalists here would call this socialism. Pity their black or white cranial activity.


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By Oregonian2 on 9/18/2007 7:55:27 PM , Rating: 2
My '96 T&C minivan has the tow-option. I don't recall the rating but it was fairly significant that I recall (never actually used it, but thought having an oversized battery and the extra transmission cooler would be better for the long run anyway and one never knows if I may want it later -- bought the car new).


RE: Technology of Tomorrow
By darkpuppet on 9/18/2007 4:02:58 PM , Rating: 5
I'd actually be a bit more concerned about the toxic factories pumping out toxic batteries that need to be charged by toxic power plants for use in eco-friendly cars.

Just thinking laws of thermal dynamics, what's better? having the energy of combustion directly motivate the car (and charge it's system), or have that combustion take place 1,000 miles away, convert it to steam to turn your rotating assemblies to generate electricity that has to travel that 1,000 miles over transmission lines to fill up a battery in a process that generates further heat and energy losses.

Same with creating hydrogen for fuel cells... have that power plant I just talked about send over power to exert it's influence on separating hydrogen and oxygen from water, just so it can be re-combined later in your car...

Hell, the current power grid c