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NASA hacker one step closer to facing prosecution in the United States

A British man the U.S. federal government accuses of breaking into NASA and U.S. government computers is again fighting extradition from the UK to the U.S.  He stands accused of the "biggest military computer hack of all time," and the federal government continues to try and have him extradited to stand trial.

Gary McKinnon, 43, who admitted to the data intrusion, and his attorneys claim he is too ill to travel to the United States to stand trial over the hacking charges according to the BBC.  McKinnon suffers from Asperger's Syndrome, and could face increased chance of suicide or mental illness if sent overseas, according to his lawyers.

McKinnon, who broke into Pentagon and NASA servers in 2001 and 2002, said he was simply looking for signs of a U.S.-led cover-up of alien life. In addition, he is supposedly "an eccentric person who has passionate views about UFOs," according to one of his lawyers.

After originally being arrested in 2002, McKinnon and his attorneys have done their best to make sure he hasn't been extradited yet.  Both the House of Lords and European Court of Human Rights have approved McKinnon's extradition, so it's extremely likely he'll find his way towards the U.S. at some point in the future depending on the outcome of his most recent extradition hearing.

If he isn't extradited and instead faces prosecution in the UK, he'll likely receive a much more lenient sentence than if he were extradited to face charges in the US.  It's possible he could spend up to 70 years in federal prison.

The matter is now headed towards a judicial review in which McKinnon's lawyers will present their case home secretary Jacqui Smith.



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He's not
By martinrichards23 on 6/10/2009 6:39:32 AM , Rating: 4
The guy downloaded some hacking software that was freely available in the right communities, he was so bad at using it, and so dumb that he actually did it from his home address that he got caught and exposed the whole thing.

His excuse for not being able to get a copy of the images of aliens and what-not was extremely lame as well.

Obviously he broke the law and should be punished in the US, but to make him out to be some sort of super hacker (that other media have done), is really misleading, the guy is just dumb.

And a liar, unless you believe his crazy story of what he saw and why he wasn't able to copy it in any way.




RE: He's not
By Regs on 6/10/2009 10:06:45 AM , Rating: 3
Goes to show you how secured we are against cyber attacks then. A guy so mentally ill that he cannot travel to be put on trial none the less.

Or, it could be that's just what he wants us to think...Bah, hang him.


RE: He's not
By Danger D on 6/10/2009 10:29:18 AM , Rating: 5
Or (shudder) that could just be what the aliens want us to think.


RE: He's not
By MatthiasF on 6/10/2009 4:34:54 PM , Rating: 2
I'll have you know from a trusted source that the aliens have a legion of outsourced Indian cyber-sleuths browsing the Internets to remove pictures of themselves.

The same firm removes pictures of Madonna's mustache.


RE: He's not
By rs1 on 6/10/2009 2:55:45 PM , Rating: 2
So you're saying the "biggest military computer hack of all time" was pulled off by a script-kiddie? Nice work securing your servers, army guys. Nice work.


RE: He's not
By Regs on 6/10/2009 6:11:23 PM , Rating: 2
It's no better excuse, but remember this was over 6 or more years ago. Likely even 10.


RE: He's not
By Lerianis on 6/14/2009 10:32:20 PM , Rating: 2
I don't care if it's 30 years ago, when computers were first getting started. There is NO reasonable explanation for this happening other than criminal negligence on the part of the military.


Not getting on no plane fool
By Aloonatic on 6/10/2009 7:01:15 AM , Rating: 4
Anyone know where he lives? 'Cause I'm sick of this now.

I'm going to get a glass of milk and drug him "Mr T style" then get him on the plane and dump him in the USA where hopefully sling him in jail (something we don't do over here any more as we can;t afford it) and you'll point out that not all Brits are as stupid as him, and when they are we don't want them in the country any more.

You're welcome to him.




RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By mdogs444 on 6/10/09, Rating: -1
RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By GWD5318 on 6/10/2009 10:10:40 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
But then again, most of the left in our country...


Seriously, can you NOT get political or attack liberals every time you post? You're making yourself into a cliche and probably leading people to ignore whatever valid point you might be trying to make.

As far as this guy is concerned, bring him to the US for trial and then throw him into general population. He's not worth any more special attention than the next felon. This has been blow way out of proportion enough by the media already.


RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By crleap on 6/10/2009 4:30:13 PM , Rating: 2
Christ you are all a bunch of pricks. The guy has an illness in the autism spectrum and was looking into his obsession of UFO's. I think you are all just pissed off that you can't do what a "retard" savant managed. He did it from his house, admitted what he did, made no effort to hide it. It's not malice, it's someone with physically impaired judgment getting the best of our wonderful government. I'd like to throw some of you posters in Gitmo to prevent you from breeding.


RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By Some1ne on 6/10/2009 6:20:55 PM , Rating: 3
I would be inclined to agree with you, except for the fact that he decided to leave a political message/threat of continuing attacks on at least one of the machines he accessed. Harmless exploration is fine. Even exploration of "classified" systems, as it helps keep the government from hiding information that it has no business hiding. But once you start making changes, and leaving vaguely threatening messages behind to be found, then you've crossed the line from "harmless explorations of an eccentric individual" to "criminal and malicious".

Granted, his "attack" was not particularly threatening, severe, or well-executed, but I can understand why people are upset about it (though I think several people are a good order of magnitude more upset than is called for). He wasn't just exploring around in a hard to reach place, he made changes.


RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By Flail on 6/10/2009 8:02:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Even exploration of "classified" systems, as it helps keep the government from hiding information that it has no business hiding.


Just an FYI, all classified information is isolated from the internet. It only gets out if somebody who has access to the information takes some of it with them. Which is Illegal.


RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By Regs on 6/10/2009 6:22:07 PM , Rating: 2
“I think I almost wanted to be caught, because it was ruining me,” said McKinnon, referring to how his quest eventually turned into an addiction that had him foregoing friends, food, and even cleanliness. “I had this classic thing of wanting to be caught so there would be an end to it.”

“US foreign policy is akin to government-sponsored terrorism these days ... It was not a mistake that there was a huge security stand down on September 11 last year ... I am SOLO. I will continue to disrupt at the highest levels...”

Maybe if the guy kept his mouth shut and didn't incriminate himself to this extent, I would of bought your overwhelmingly compassionate humanitarian perspective (however hypocritical). The only disability I see he has that would impair his judgment or his cognitive abilities to understand the consequences of his actions are his obvious egomaniacal tendencies. Unfortunately that does not count as defense.


RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By Regs on 6/10/2009 6:33:34 PM , Rating: 2
On the other side of things while keeping things fair, if this guy is guilty that is, this will just be another "make an example of him" sentencing. 12 years in my mind will not help rehabilitate him, and god forbid, actually turned him into a violent criminal.

I would much prefer a lighter sentencing like the original stated in the plea bargain, which was 6-12 months in a minimal security prison and then send him back on his merry way to the UK. Does the punishment fit the crime? I guess it would depend how badly he disrupted our defenses and the damage ensued.


RE: Not getting on no plane fool
By cparka23 on 6/10/2009 9:39:36 AM , Rating: 2
Just yell, "Clips! Give me clips!" Then, watch him fall over like a narcoleptic.


Maybe a content checker is needed?
By overlandpark4me on 6/10/2009 1:29:21 PM , Rating: 2
A British man the U.S. federal government accuses of breaking into NASA.................

Come on guys.




RE: Maybe a content checker is needed?
By GWD5318 on 6/10/2009 3:07:47 PM , Rating: 2
And your point is? Last time I checked anyone who is a suspect in a crime is referred to as "the accused".

Are you suggesting that we should reverse the basis of our legal system for extradition purposes? Have the suspect presumed guilty before facing a trial? Or are you just getting your panties in a wad over nothing? I suspect the latter.


RE: Maybe a content checker is needed?
By Cront on 6/11/2009 9:27:15 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Have the suspect presumed guilty before facing a trial?

Isn't he assumed guilty since he admitted to doing all this?

He's not fighting for his innocence he's fighting extradition.

Maybe I missed something...?


RE: Maybe a content checker is needed?
By GWD5318 on 6/11/2009 10:00:44 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, I think you are missing something. Something called due process. What the US is trying to do is bring him here for trial , you know that little thing that happens before you are pronouced guilty, if that is the case.

The reason they want him here is because the government found enough evidence against the guy for probable cause to arrest him for the hacking offense. However, since he is a foreign national he has to be brought here to be formally charged with the crime.

A little research into our legal system might do you some good.


By Cront on 6/13/2009 4:30:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Gary McKinnon, 43, who admitted to the data intrusion


Guilty.


US prison
By Danger D on 6/10/2009 9:31:58 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sure he'll do very well in the US prison environment.




RE: US prison
By Morphine06 on 6/10/2009 9:57:36 AM , Rating: 3
The foil hat will have dual purposes there, brain protector and contraceptive device.


Free him!
By MrPoletski on 6/10/2009 6:24:53 AM , Rating: 2
The real question is.... did he FIND any UFOs? ;)




RE: Free him!
By martinrichards23 on 6/10/2009 6:41:52 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, he did, but having hacked into pentagon servers he forgot how to copy and paste and so wasn't able to keep any evidence.

That all definately sounds totally 100% reasonable.


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