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New marketing chief plans aggressive push for revival

Android smartphone maker HTC Corp. (TPE:2498) became the darling of the U.S. market via an aggressive reputation in 2010-2011 of pushing the hardware envelope.  But in 2012 it saw itself start to backslide as it became overwhelmed by fellow Android phonemaker Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd.'s (KSC:005930) savvy marketing machine and delivered a handful of decent, yet uninspired releases (e.g. the HTC EVO 3D).  Apple, Inc. (AAPL) also surged ahead of HTC both in brand image and sales.

I. Getting Aggressive

Now vying for third place, HTC is determined to push harder on the hardware side with devices like the HTC One.  And while a buyer snub has delayed the HTC One, HTC plans to get more aggressive in the months leading up to whenever the device does get launched, shifting gears from its previous policy of friendly competition to an increasingly common policy of open belligerence.

Negativity works.  The market's top phonemaker Samsung reveled in a series of ads attacking Apple's "fanboys" (and girls).  Apple -- while keeping it pretty positive with iPhone advertising -- for years built its image of superiority by ripping on the "PC" brand, which it labeled as stodgy and uncool.

Samsung and Apple attack ads
Samsung (left) and Apple (right) road attack ads on their way to the top.

For HTC, getting negative begins with ditching the company's slogan -- "Quietly Brilliant".  HTC has not announced a replacement slogan, but based on recent efforts, the new feel is a lot like that of Apple and Samsung -- "Noisily Belligerent".

Pushing the change is new Chief Marketing Officer Benjamin Ho who joined HTC in November and started work in January.  One Asia's most savvy veteran marketers, Mr. Ho had previously served at a variety of Asian telecoms and the Asian unit of phonemaker Motorola, back in its dominant days in the late 1990s and early 2000s.  Mr. Ho left Motorola in 2003, well before it joined up with Android or got acquired by Google Inc. (GOOG).

HTC Benjamin Ho
Benjamin Ho (left) is boldly overhauling HTC's marketing and message.
[Image Source: MarketWeek]

Mr. Ho is not afraid to bluntly address issues.  Responding to rumors of the HTC One delay, he told members of the press, "Our friends in the media have been asking why there has been a delay in shipments for the new HTC One, whether there is a component shortage.  There is some shortage, because the phone’s camera was designed specifically for us, and production cannot be ramped up so quickly."

II. Benjamin Ho Leads Marketing Revival at HTC

He's sold the company management on deeply investing on better marketing -- or "Marketing 2.0" as he calls it.  This year HTC will double its traditional media advertising spending and increase digital advertising by a factor of 3.5x.  The move is carefully calculated by Mr. Ho to assault Samsung and Apple's industry-leading brand familiarity among non-technophiles.  It also represents a sharp reversal of HTC's previous plan to cut marketing spending in 2013, which it told investors in late 2012.

HTC quietly brilliant
HTC is no longer content to be "quiet". [Image Source: Reuters]

The fresh face is HTC's third CMO in two years, but Mr. Ho doesn't appear to be intimidated by lack of job security.  He comments on the decision to ditch the company's long-standing slogan, "We have a lot of innovations but we haven’t been loud enough."

HTC was certainly loud in attacking rival Samsung's Galaxy S IV launch on Twitter. Outside the launch location in New York City HTC made a scene handing out free hot chocolate and giving demos and discount coupons for the HTC One.

Thus far Mr. Ho's plan for marketing the HTC One won't focus on any one slogan, but rather to focus on general buzzwords -- "bold", "authentic", and "playful".  Mr. Ho says that "authentic" means that HTC is pushing its own ideas and not copy other phonemakers.  

The comment is perhaps a subtle insult to rival Samsung who lost a billion-dollar jury verdict after a U.S. jury found that it "stole" patented technology and designs from Apple.  HTC recently entered into a 10-year deal to license certain technology from Apple, ending its own patent battle with the U.S. firm.

Source: WSJ



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It's not just HTC
By bug77 on 3/25/2013 2:48:54 PM , Rating: 3
Phone makers will drop everything, but their beloved skins. And that's what users actually want: timely updates. You can then release your updated crap years down the road. That, clear sound, good signal and good battery life. Pretty basic, but HTC will drop "quietly brilliant" instead and expect their sales to surge.




RE: It's not just HTC
By BifurcatedBoat on 3/25/2013 3:50:29 PM , Rating: 3
Of the things you mentioned, battery life has long been an HTC achilles heel. But yes, they would sell more devices and have less work to do if they were shipping stock Android.


RE: It's not just HTC
By jimbojimbo on 3/25/2013 4:03:21 PM , Rating: 2
The people that care whether it's stock Android or not are the people that will put a custom ROM on it anyway. Most consumers have no idea what the differences are between the stock Android and Sense. In fact most people will feel that hey, Sense has these features but Android just has these features not realizing that you can add a lot more features by installing them. Those people don't want to spend a couple of days figuring out what apps to install to get it to where they want it. They want the phone to have most of the features they want right away. That I believe is why the SIII is selling so damn well. It not only has all the features of JB but all the extras. It's a feature full phone.
Although I agree they'll have less work if they went stock, they will definitely not sell more phones.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Flunk on 3/25/2013 4:08:46 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly, the Samsung Galaxy SIII is selling because of great marketing and the fact that they have the cell phone companies on board. Push something enough and you're get great sales, even if it's just by default. People quite often just buy the same phone (or similar) as their friends do.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Flunk on 3/25/2013 4:10:02 PM , Rating: 1
Not to say it's not a good phone, but a lot of those sales are to people who wouldn't know a good phone if it hit them in the head.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Spuke on 3/25/2013 4:20:39 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Not to say it's not a good phone, but a lot of those sales are to people who wouldn't know a good phone if it hit them in the head.
That's not what hear from the regular, non-geeky types. Lots of these people owned Android phones previously and found the SGS3 an order of magnitude better phone all around.


RE: It's not just HTC
By superflex on 3/25/13, Rating: 0
RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 5:50:34 PM , Rating: 2
Nice fiction. The display on the S3 was awe inspiring in it's day. 720p on a smartphone? It was stunning, hell it still is. And with that resolution, nobody is "griping" about pentile. You can't even tell it's pentile anyway.

Come on admit it, you just made this up didn't you?


RE: It's not just HTC
By superflex on 3/25/2013 8:04:47 PM , Rating: 2
Lemme guess.
GS3 owner?


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 8:26:18 PM , Rating: 2
Actually no. I didn't like the idea of buying the Galaxy S3 knowing that, as an American, I was getting the substandard SOC. I know I know, there are technical reasons why we (supposedly) can't have the Exynos chips in our phones here. But it still pissed me off.

Kinda torn on what to do next actually. But the great thing about Android is I'll have tons of great ones to choose from when I'm ready.


RE: It's not just HTC
By bug77 on 3/25/2013 8:08:09 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe it's just me, but since I looked at SAMOLED and SLCD side by side, I can't stop noticing how greenish AMOLEDs are. Maybe they improved since then (SGS2 days), but there was a clear difference.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Spuke on 3/25/2013 6:17:21 PM , Rating: 2
LOL! I specifically mentioned non-geeky types and you bring up a typical geeks review of the SGS3. I guess some of you REALLY can't see the everyday persons point of view, can you? Fact is, the SGS3 is best selling Android phone, it gets a ton of conquest sales from Apple, and is likely to continue that despite what the geeks think of it (which is irrelevant). All my non-geek friends love theirs and will get the S4 when their contracts are up, plastic body and pentile screen aside.

I like the HTC One and hopefully it ends up at Verizon by August but I'm a geek and my desires are different than most. I'm fine with that. That said, I think the SGS3 is a great phone. I won't buy it though.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 7:03:24 PM , Rating: 2
Fun fact, there was no such thing on Earth as a non-pentile 720p screen when the GS3 launched.


RE: It's not just HTC
By ChronoReverse on 3/25/2013 7:17:11 PM , Rating: 2
You mean non-pentile 720p AMOLED screen I hope?

The One X predated the GS3 slightly and it featured a 720p non-pentile LCD.

Then there's the Rezound which featured a 720p LCD and came out half a year before the GS3.


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/25/2013 7:27:20 PM , Rating: 2
The GS3 had one of the worst screens when it came out. The One X is a great example, very high res and great color. Even lower res screens like the iPhone 4S had more subpixels than the "higher res" GS3. A "720p" GS3 with the worst color and contrast out there, oh wow.

Samsung marketing wins again.

At least the GS4 is 440 PPI. Even if its Pentile it probably won't even matter. Now we'll see if Samsung can fix their color next.


RE: It's not just HTC
By ChronoReverse on 3/25/2013 7:46:10 PM , Rating: 2
The non-pentile AMOLED screen in the Note 2 actually has good color if you switch its mode (in the stock ROM, I'm not talking custom ROMs) to "Natural".


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 8:40:36 PM , Rating: 2
The display on the Note 2 is just freaking fantastic I must say. I always make excuses to use my friends when we hang out, it's just so goddamn gorgeous.


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/25/2013 9:43:46 PM , Rating: 2
The Note 2 being non-pentile is a huge reason why it looks as good as it does. It really couldn't get away with it at its lower pixel density, but even then it looks better than a higher PPI pentile display.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 8:05:08 PM , Rating: 2
Even professional grade displays have to be calibrated out of the box. I guess those are crap too?

I happen to like the vibrant colors of the older Samsung handsets. So do millions of others. However don't ignorantly boast this makes the screen "the worst", it's just software. And I know you'll cry "oh no, tinkering!!", but you can go into a menu and change the color scheme to something less saturated if you want. What a concept right!?

AMOLED technology is far FAR superior technically to LCD. LCD is an obsolete technology that quite frankly should be phased out at this point.

quote:
Samsung marketing wins again.


Okay I'm seeing more and more this odd HTC vs Samsung argument being used here. Where the suggestion is made that marketing is the only reason someone would buy a Samsung unit over an HTC. Reality check time, the Galaxy S3 destroys the One X in every performance metric and has more features.


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/25/2013 9:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Even professional grade displays have to be calibrated out of the box. I guess those are crap too?


Doesn't matter, consistency from factory calibration is still there. What excuse is there for the HTC and Apple smartphones having so much better image quality than Samsung?

You can take a high end desktop LCD, or a good smartphone or tablet and still get very good color. The HTC One and the iPhone 5 nail it because they're factory calibrated. Samsung's oversaturated and overly contrasty settings are terrible. It consistently ranks among the worst smartphone displays out there and the difference is obvious even in a store. I don't know why you insist on defending it.

quote:
AMOLED technology is far FAR superior technically to LCD. LCD is an obsolete technology that quite frankly should be phased out at this point.


Samsung's Super AMOLED implementation is among the worst thanks to having fewer subpixels. The Pentile array is terrible, its rendering of fine details and small text is so obvious.

HTC and LG have switched back from AMOLED to IPS LCD because aside from IPS having longer lifespan, it is an objective improvement in sharpness, color, and image quality.

quote:
Reality check time, the Galaxy S3 destroys the One X in every performance metric and has more features.


The One X is also an older phone. Surprise.


RE: It's not just HTC
By EnzoFX on 3/26/2013 12:43:50 AM , Rating: 2
Because he's a Samsung fanboy, obviously. He doesn't understand that it doesn't come down to the technical superior specification of AMOLED, when in practice it's being used in a sub par way, so sub par that the "inferior" LCD's are out performing it consistently on accuracy. I don't care how much you like dark blacks, the oversaturation is ludicrous.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/26/2013 2:08:35 PM , Rating: 2
Hey do you do color editing or Photoshop on your goddamn phone? Nobody does, this argument is childish. There's so many more important factors in picking a phone.

Just understand you're in the minority here.


RE: It's not just HTC
By blue_urban_sky on 3/26/2013 3:50:45 AM , Rating: 2
Why do you suppose the S3 is over saturated? when there is a perfectly good switch to change it? None of these things happen by accident, they use market research, AB testing and alike. Bright vivid colour and deep blacks sell better.

I would love to see you in a phone shop with your reference cards, pressing all the phones against your eye complaining how you will never be able to do your DTP on such a poorly calibrated fuzzy screen.


RE: It's not just HTC
By piroroadkill on 3/26/2013 11:31:16 AM , Rating: 3
AMOLED better than LCD? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

God no. I have a Super AMOLED phone, and I wish it was LCD.

It gains a tint over time as the portions degrade.

It's awful.


RE: It's not just HTC
By retrospooty on 3/26/2013 11:36:57 AM , Rating: 2
Its a matter of choice. For true color correctness, LCD rules... But AMOLED has better black levels and brighter more vibrant colors. It depends on what you want from your screen. For artists, and photographers, and anyone else that cares about "true color" LCD, definitely.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/25/2013 6:37:12 PM , Rating: 2
"I know two people"

Great for you? They aren't everyone...

It doesn't feel cheap and the screen looks great.


RE: It's not just HTC
By superflex on 3/25/2013 7:57:14 PM , Rating: 2
Dont be butthurt.
The GS3 screen does poor in sunlight and text looks blurry compared to the One X and retina.
The validation of your device is showing.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 8:09:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The GS3 screen does poor in sunlight


As does every phone and tablet on the planet, frankly. I've never had a particularly enjoyable experience on any device in the sun. We love the glossy screens indoors, but man, outdoors they are BRUTAL!

quote:
Dont be butthurt.


Wow what is this? We're all on the same team dude, team 'Droid! We're supposed to be united against Apple, not at each others throats.... sigh


RE: It's not just HTC
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/25/2013 8:20:31 PM , Rating: 2
butthurt? LOL

What a moron. Is that you Pirks? xti?


RE: It's not just HTC
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/25/2013 8:21:59 PM , Rating: 2
Also, get your eyes checked if you think text is "blurry"...


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/25/2013 7:20:43 PM , Rating: 3
Same. Three friends got the GS3 last year and they grew to hate it due to how clunky the UI is, crashes, short battery life, and its terrible screen. Two have traded in for iPhone 5s and one is looking to get a Nexus 4.

Some people here are saying that the screen is fine but reviews on Anandtech, The Verge, and Ars Technica have all criticized it. Anyone with eyeballs and standards can tell, colors and text are so bad. Common praise in reviews for the HTC One or DNA are "fortunately it doesn't use a Pentile display like the GS3 does".

It really is one of the worst out there, especially for a phone with a premium price. Its a common criticism even on Android forums, so I don't know why some people here are in denial over it. You can get a Nexus 4 with a better screen for much less. HTC's flagships cost about as much but you're getting much better displays with those, same with the Lumia 920 that I have, blows the GS3's away.

Samsung is all marketing right now, they spend more than anyone on it. Companies like HTC with great new products are getting buried because of it. Apple might market the hell out of their products but at least they have the hardware and ecosystem to back it up.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 8:20:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You can get a Nexus 4 with a better screen for much less.


In exchange for no 4G LTE? Yeah...no, I don't think so. You pretty much get what you pay for on that deal.

Seriously you guys know I'm generally a supporter of Google and Android, but the decision to crank out Nexus phones without 4G LTE just doesn't fly with me, and I can't see how anyone else can support it either.

quote:
HTC's flagships cost about as much but you're getting much better displays with those, same with the Lumia 920 that I have, blows the GS3's away.


Yeah as long as you don't mind no removable storage options and a captive battery. And that Sense UI *shudders*.

quote:
Companies like HTC with great new products are getting buried because of it.


HTC is getting "buried" because they can't even deliver a new product on time. Seriously I'm so baffled that, with everything riding on it, they fell asleep at the wheel and completely ruined the HTC One launch. But I guess that was Samsung's fault too?

Also it didn't help that Apple slagged HTC with a crapton of phoney baloney lawsuits constantly. Their stock took a huge hit from that.

Look I want to see this HTC vs Samsung thing put to a stop, it goes against EVERYTHING we're supposed to be about. Apple is the enemy, not each other! Samsung is doing it right, they are moving headsets and grabbing market share. They've done more than anyone to make Android a household name. Don't hate on them because you think HTC should be in their place, that's ridiculous. Cheer for HTC to get better, sure, but don't hate on Samsung wtf?


RE: It's not just HTC
By EnzoFX on 3/26/2013 12:48:58 AM , Rating: 1
Funny how you didn't respond to his more substantive point about the screen itself. You must just have a low bar when it comes to color quality. If you're such a Samsung fanboy, how about telling them instead to calibrate their shit? Instead of defending it when it's sub par.


RE: It's not just HTC
By half_duplex on 3/26/2013 9:58:40 AM , Rating: 2
No, he's just probably just earning $0.12 for every pro Samsung post he can eek out.


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/27/2013 7:29:09 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Look I want to see this HTC vs Samsung thing put to a stop, it goes against EVERYTHING we're supposed to be about. Apple is the enemy, not each other! Samsung is doing it right, they are moving headsets and grabbing market share. They've done more than anyone to make Android a household name. Don't hate on them because you think HTC should be in their place, that's ridiculous. Cheer for HTC to get better, sure, but don't hate on Samsung wtf?


Fanboy talk.

These aren't sports teams, this is technology and companies. I'm done with Android for now but I know it is getting better. Samsung isn't good but they keep getting bigger, that's my problem. I'll cheer for HTC all I want, all their new gear is great. It doesn't matter, I'm on a Lumia and iPad now anyway, looks like I'm the "enemy"


RE: It's not just HTC
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/25/2013 8:27:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Three friends got the GS3 last year and they grew to hate it due to how clunky the UI is, crashes, short battery life, and its terrible screen.
UI isn't clunky. Crashes? Sounds like a problem with their particular device. Short battery life? Again, probably their particulate device. I get full day battery as others here do.

We get you like Apple... it's obvious.


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/25/2013 9:41:13 PM , Rating: 2
I criticize the GS3 so obviously I'm an Apple fanboy, obviously.

I own a Lumia 920 and I think HTC's newest phones are really good. It isn't that I think Apple is so great, even though I do have an iPad 4, its just that Samsung's flagship GS3 is really bad for the price.

Even the creator of CyanogenMod had bad things to say about TouchWiz right after just quitting Samsung: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/25/4144226/steve-cy...

quote:
The Android developer believes that TouchWiz now "feels like it has been sent a few years back in time to the Froyo days."


I bet the maker of CyanogenMod is an Apple fanboy too. He criticized your precious, after all.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/25/2013 10:11:59 PM , Rating: 2
My precious? Get a grip. Lol

Good for him? Does he want a cookie? His opinion is just that, an opinion .


RE: It's not just HTC
By A11 on 3/26/2013 9:07:30 AM , Rating: 2
There's that cheeseman delusion again.

No amount of "lol lol I'm not a fanboy" will change the fact that you're the biggest zealot posting on this forum.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/26/2013 9:30:13 AM , Rating: 1
Who's fact? Yours? That doesn't make shit a fact...

And you can keep thinking I am "fanboy", that is not fact nor true.

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RE: It's not just HTC
By A11 on 3/27/2013 5:00:22 PM , Rating: 2
Grow up.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Bateluer on 3/25/2013 4:14:27 PM , Rating: 2
This. Samsung makes some solid products, no doubt, but they've spent half a billion dollars on marketing. That puts their Galaxy brand directly into the public consciousness. HTC's One brand is virtually unknown in comparison.


RE: It's not just HTC
By jimbojimbo on 3/25/2013 4:16:29 PM , Rating: 2
All that advertising but I've never seen a commercial except when linked at one of these sites. I've seen some billboards but really the billboards annoyed me more than anything since Celo is the worst singer in the world. However, even with all that I still want the S4 because I think it is the best phone that will be available in April/May when I'm slightly overdue on my renewal.


RE: It's not just HTC
By superflex on 3/25/2013 8:01:25 PM , Rating: 2
If they took half their marketing budget and put it into a better display, they would have a great device.
The display is the weakest part of the GS3.
The self-validators have a hard time dealing with this.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/25/2013 8:35:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If they took half their marketing budget and put it into a better display


Yeah, they did that. Have you seen the displays of the Note II and Galaxy S4?

quote:
The self-validators have a hard time dealing with this.


No it's just funny seeing people take a nitpick and over blow it into some product-damning travesty.

If the display was really that bad, NO WAY it would have sold that many units. End of argument.


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/27/2013 7:09:53 AM , Rating: 2
Marketing works even when you're selling bad screens. HTC could have the best Android device and it wouldn't sell anywhere close to what Samsung does because they can't match their reach.


RE: It's not just HTC
By bug77 on 3/25/2013 4:23:38 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The people that care whether it's stock Android or not are the people that will put a custom ROM on it anyway. Most consumers have no idea what the differences are between the stock Android and Sense.


Agreed, but at the same time most people will feel the pain of shelling out hundreds of dollars and not having the latest OS. I haven't seen one Android users saying "well, I don't have JellyBean, but that's ok, I have this shiny widget instead".
The SIII is a good example. It's feature packed and everything. But wait until the next Android is released and Samsung takes their sweet time bringing that to SIV and then just tells SIII owners their handsets are not up to the job.


RE: It's not just HTC
By jimbojimbo on 3/25/2013 4:46:30 PM , Rating: 2
Just like how they told S2 owners they couldn't get JB either. Oh wait.
Two S3 owners I know think Jelly Bean is a candy and that's it.


RE: It's not just HTC
By bug77 on 3/25/2013 8:05:20 PM , Rating: 2
Well, they got JellyBean. About 7 month after it was released. And by then, it was already superseeded by 4.2.

See here how the saga unfolded: http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/samsung-galaxy-s2...
If you're willing to put up with that for a phone that sets you back $200+ (on a contract), you're a better man than I am.


RE: It's not just HTC
By blue_urban_sky on 3/26/2013 4:05:58 AM , Rating: 2
lol 'the saga' most people I know don't even know what version they are on and never look to update there OS even when it is available. Most the time I seem to do it as I'm poking about in there phones.

Meanwhile I've been on 4.2.2 for ages (omega rom)

Sad thing is I want the HTC but even I struggle to get past the 4M camera... How are they planning on selling that to the public?


RE: It's not just HTC
By insurgent on 3/26/2013 1:48:14 AM , Rating: 1
That's quite the RDF you have there. I doubt the average people care about stock Android, they care about Facebook and instagram and games and whatever social app is currently popular. I doubt that they care about Holo or 4.2.2 and that they're impatiently waiting for Samsung for the latest updates.

Samsung is selling a phone with Gingerbread/Froyo interface and they're selling millions. Given a chance to really customize their phones, honestly, I doubt that Holo will be the overwhelming choice.

What we'll see are cooky fonts, wildly colorful interfaces, grunge, goth, flowers or gangsta themes and other shit that you will probably call ugly, but guess what: different people have different tastes.


RE: It's not just HTC
By Omega215D on 3/25/2013 6:45:11 PM , Rating: 1
Not sure what's up with the recent elitist attitude from the Android camp lately. I happen to like the Sense skin and felt it brought a lot of functionality to Android prior to ICS and prefer where things are post ICS. It hasn't been laggy of crash prone on my Rezound since I've had it, the only issues were the VZW bloatware which has been removed,

I'm also starting to see that the Samsung fanboys are becoming just as rabid as the Apple ones.


RE: It's not just HTC
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/26/2013 2:09:45 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung's marketing has worked, it created rabid fanboys that defend some of the worst high end hardware out there. Apple might spend almost as much marketing the iPhone and iPad but at least they have the hardware and software to back it up. HTC with their great new devices won't ever keep up with all the money Samsung is throwing. And Microsoft, man, they have a great mobile UI with WP, the best I think, but they can't market anything for crap aside from the XBox. I also think that the disaster that is Windows 8 is actually giving WP a negative stigma, its hurting it even more.


RE: It's not just HTC
By blue_urban_sky on 3/26/2013 4:15:40 AM , Rating: 2
yes cos that's what's been happening here.

YOU: The S3 is the worst piece of crap out there! I hate it the screen is pure garbage *grrr*

PEOPLE: Its not that bad, there's a setting for the colour and at that res I can't see a difference on the pixels

YOU: *grr* you must be a complete twat! The screens rubbish and all the hardware is crap!

PEOPLE: Well at the time the hardware was probably the best out there, err I think we covered the screen...

YOU: *grrr* I've got sand in my vagina! you all hate me! *grrr* must be the marketing!


RE: It's not just HTC
By Reclaimer77 on 3/26/2013 7:30:55 AM , Rating: 2
^^^^ exactly.

The belligerence happening here is absurd. It's almost like they think WE designed the screen, so are somehow responsible for it. Wtf? Dudes going Hulk over this, turning green, shirt ripping, the whole deal. What does he want from us exactly anyway? Some bizarre admission of guilt for something none of us even did.


RE: It's not just HTC
By retrospooty on 3/26/2013 8:11:46 AM , Rating: 2
I am pretty sure you are talkin' to takin's slighly angrier alter ego ;)


Misleading Mick
By half_duplex on 3/26/2013 9:29:36 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
HTC plans to get more aggressive in the months leading up to whenever the device does get launched


Wasn't the release pushed back less than a month, and didn't HTC actually give a pretty good idea of when the device would be launched? Hasn't the phone launched in the UK and Taiwan?
This is misleading journalism, if someone wasn't waiting on this phone and keeping up with HTC, they'd think the phone would show up around Thanksgiving.

Anyway, the phone is due sometime next month. I'll be picking one up.




HTC failed because ...
By chick0n on 3/26/2013 1:44:46 AM , Rating: 1
AND!

- Not-so-cool designs (too conservative)
- Battery life (compare to other ones)
- problematic software (and slow updates)
- customer service (they always blame user error even when the problem is wide spread)

I used to be HTC fan but after they gave me so much shit, I said f it and go Samsung, after Samsung got big same thing happening so now I'm with Sony.




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