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Marcus Yam (Blog) - August 1, 2007 9:30 AM

58 comment(s) - last by Justin Case.. on Aug 2 at 7:54 PM

Sony now supporting high-def Japanese porn on Blu-ray Disc

Earlier this year, around the time of Consumer Electronics Show and the Adult Entertainment Expo, much of the online media claimed that the high-def format war was won by HD DVD thanks to the adult industry’s support for the format.

The reason for the adult industry’s support of HD DVD is multi-faceted. For one, authoring and replication costs of HD DVD are more economical due to the format’s similar manufacturing requirements to DVD. And secondly, Sony was resistant to producing adult material on the Blu-ray Disc format.

“Sony is not giving any assistance in the authoring or replication of adult content on Blu-ray,” said Vivid Entertainment Group founder Steven Hirsch. “Sony is somehow trying to keep away such material from the format, which I think is a mistake.”

Although HD DVD may remain the choice for adult movies in the North American market, things are completely different in Japan. The Blu-ray Disc format commands the high-definition market in Japan, and Sony is changing its stance on the allowance of adult material for that region.

According to news from the Adult Treasure Expo 2007 in Chiba, Japan, Sony will now be offering more technical support and assistance to adult filmmakers. Sony will also be sending Blu-ray equipment to a partnered company in Taiwan to handle production of the adult material.

“In Japan, there are some problems. Companies cannot press Blu-ray discs because they cannot touch adult-related contracts,” said Kiyotaka Konno, director of administration at Assist Corp., a Japanese company that authors and replicates DVDs for the adult industry in Japan, to the IDG News Service. “So we asked some makers in Taiwan to do the work, and then we import the discs back to Japan. The Taiwanese company was able to obtain a pressing machine from Sony and will start mass production in August.”

“HD DVD is popular overseas, but it faces a tough market in Japan,” said Takeshi Kobayashi, head of operations at Taisei Co. Ltd., which distributes films under the trade name Glay'z in Japan. “Sony is really pushing the industry to adopt BD DVD.”

A Sony spokesperson said that the company has not changed its internal policy – it will still not directly handle the replication of adult movies – but will now offer support to any filmmakers seeking to use Blu-ray Disc, regardless of content.

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Sony learning?

By Desslok on 8/1/2007 9:51:59 AM , Rating: 2

Looks like they learned from their BetaMax mistake of not licensing the technology to the Porn industry.

RE: Sony learning?

By xNIBx on 8/1/2007 10:19:05 AM , Rating: 5

Except things have changed a lot since betamax days. Less and less people actually rent or buy porn discs. Most people use the internet to either get free porn or pay for downloadable porn.

In fact, even less people pay for their internet porn these days. Most people just download it for free(especially with all these porn bittorrent trackers). The porn industry is having a hard time these last 1-2 years and things will only get worse for them.

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RE: Sony learning?

By Desslok on 8/1/2007 11:19:55 AM , Rating: 2

Good point I did not take that into consideration. Thanks for brining it to my attention.

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RE: Sony learning?

By JimFear on 8/1/07, Rating: 0

RE: Sony learning?

By The Sword 88 on 8/1/2007 1:58:29 PM , Rating: 2

Using bit torrent is not hard at all. Maybe for older people but all the gusy I know know how to use bit torrent

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RE: Sony learning?

By Akazar on 8/1/2007 4:15:20 PM , Rating: 3

You are so wrong. Porn is still a Billion doller industry. The people who download using torrents is actually very very small compared to the rest of the world.

Let's keep it that way!

"First rule of Torrent Club is....."

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RE: Sony learning?

By dm0r on 8/2/2007 10:36:21 AM , Rating: 2

took the words of my mouth.

ps: You do not talk about Torrents...

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RE: Sony learning?

By AlmostExAMD on 8/2/2007 3:54:15 AM , Rating: 2

U can't be serious with that comment, Take a look at Private studio's now, They are now doing high definition multi million dollar porn versions of popular Hollywood movies!

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RE: Sony learning?

By Justin Case on 8/1/2007 8:16:01 PM , Rating: 2

quote:
Looks like they learned from their BetaMax mistake of not licensing the technology to the Porn industry.

Sigh... this is one of those myths that refuse to die.

Betamax didn't need to be "licensed", as doesn't Blu-ray. There was plenty of porn in Betamax, and no one can prevent companies from releasing porn in Blu-ray. Sony simply will not give or lease encoding and duplication systems to companies that publish porn. Those companies are free to invest in their own systems, though.

Apparently this is part of their agreement with Disney because, as everybody knows, Disney characters don't fuck. On the other hand, they do walk around with no pants on in front of their nephews.

The problem with Betamax (and the real reason why it failed as a consumer format) was that it took them years to be able to make tapes over 60 minutes. Feature films had to be split across two tapes, and you couldn't tape any TV show longer than one hour. Consumers didn't like this and video rental clubs liked it even less. VHS had worse quality but it was "good enough" and a lot more practical. By the time Betamax tapes over 60 minutes were released, VHS was already the "consumer" standard.

And that is why Betamax failed as a home video format.

Beta tapes are still used in broadcasting today (Beta Digital, SP and SX cassetes under 60 minutes are physically compatible with Betamax decks, and vice-versa, although the tape itself has different properties).

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RE: Sony learning?

By whickywhickyjim on 8/2/2007 4:42:22 AM , Rating: 1

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The problem with Betamax (and the real reason why it failed as a consumer format) was that it took them years to be able to make tapes over 60 minutes. Feature films had to be split across two tapes, and you couldn't tape any TV show longer than one hour. Consumers didn't like this and video rental clubs liked it even less.

BS. You have no idea what you're talking about. I had a betamax and you could definitely rent movies on one tape. A place called Erols in the DC and Baltimore area rented beta and VHS movies. I remember renting Buckaroo Banzai. My brother owned the lost boys on beta. My brother owned porn on beta. Only high quality blank beta media came with the high quality setting you're talking about. It could record a short time on very high quality, but you could also adjust the quality down and get more recording time. I think there were 3 settings, but it depended on what type of tapes you bought. Beta was great for editing. So much so, that there were still many studios using beta long after DVD was dominant and VHS had died.

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RE: Sony learning?

By Justin Case on 8/2/2007 7:54:04 PM , Rating: 2

Did you even bother to read my post (or, God forbid, do some research)?

When Betamax was released, tapes were 60 minutes long. You don't have to be a mathematician to understand that you can't record a 100-minute film on a 60-minute tape.

Bigger Betamax tapes (and lower recording speeds) weren't introduced until significantly later, after VHS had been released, and pretty much won the war (video rentals preferred the single tape and home users liked being able to record a full show or sports match without interruptions).

If you had a Betamax deck in 1986, sure, you could even get 3-hour tapes. In 1976, no. And by 1986 it was obvious who had won the format war.

FYI, recording speed (and, consequently, quality) was determined by the deck, not the tapes. If anything, lower recording speeds would benefit more from high-quality tapes.

And no, there are no (serious) studios using Betamax (or VHS, for that matter). Betamax and VHS were both designed as home video formats. You are probably confusing Betamax with Beta SP (again, read my message above). Before Beta SP, the "studio" format was U-Matic. Betamax was a popular "prosumer" format between 1975 and 1982 (before Beta SP was available), due to portability, but this was long before "DVD was dominant" as you put it.

And of course, DVD is not even close to being a "studio" or "broadcast" format. It's a pretty low-end, consumer-oriented format. The standard studio format for the DVD era was (is) Beta Digital, with DVCPRO and DVCAM being the dominant "prosumer" formats (Digital8 is just DV data recorded on an Hi8 cassette).

Beta SP uses a much higher tape speed than Betamax (required by the added quality, and therefore bandwidth), so the tapes were even shorter. To deal with this, Beta SP tapes over 40 minutes have a different form factor. Here:

http://www.maxell.eu.com/Maxell%20Professional/Pro...

The cassette on the left (30-minute Beta SP) has the same form factor as Betamax tapes (and as much tape as a 3-hour Betamax tape). The 90-minute one is much larger.

For your information, I've been working in video production, post-production and broadcasting since the late 70s, and I still own a couple of Betamax decks (including a field unit).

However, my brother did not own porn on Beta, which I guess does put me at a disadvantage.

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Not sure this is such a great idea...

By Martimus on 8/1/2007 10:14:44 AM , Rating: 2

I'm not sure why you would want ot watch porn in high definition. Those girls generally aren't very attractive, and now you will be able to see all their ugliness.

RE: Not sure this is such a great idea...

By TwistyKat on 8/1/2007 10:18:09 AM , Rating: 3

You're probably watching Russian porn. :-)

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RE: Not sure this is such a great idea...

By Akazar on 8/1/2007 4:11:14 PM , Rating: 2

um..if you had a Huge HD TV and have watched HD DVD porn ...oh my...you have no idea...omg...it's amazing.

Trust me. It's something everyone should see at least once in their lifetime.

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RE: Not sure this is such a great idea...

By Martimus on 8/1/2007 5:24:53 PM , Rating: 3

I don't know... After seeing the evening news in HD, and seeing how horribly ugly those anchors were when you had better definition makes me scared to see the skanks in porn in high definition.

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Ass zits in HD!!

By Fnoob on 8/1/2007 11:46:47 AM , Rating: 2

Whoooohooooo! Oh wait, we need this why?

RE: Ass zits in HD!!

By Akazar on 8/1/2007 4:18:04 PM , Rating: 2

LOL

Just because it's in HD doesn't mean people all of a sudden forgot how to edit film.

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RE: Ass zits in HD!!

By Martimus on 8/1/2007 5:26:15 PM , Rating: 2

Right, because the production budgets of porn movies allow for editing ...

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makes sense

By Gul Westfale on 8/1/2007 10:17:02 AM , Rating: 3

pornography has always driven teh adoption of new formats; VHS, DVD, the internet (you don't really need broadband to send email, now do you?)...

so now porn is coming to bluray... i wonder though who would now buy a machine especially for that, given that people who have $500 for a movieplayer usually have computers and internet access... and getting porn on the net is more anonymous than getting it from a store, and more convenient than ordering it from a catalogue and waiting for delivery (or so i am told lol).

thus porn's impact on bluray sales is hard to estimate (no pun intended).

on a sidenote, does anyone remember sony saying they didn't really approve of porn coming to the PSP but saying there was nothing they could do about it? isn't sony the only company that makes PSP UMD discs? couldn't they have just NOT sold discs to porn companies? so they took the money and then pretended they didn't like it... :)

RE: makes sense

By timmiser on 8/2/2007 1:22:12 AM , Rating: 2

I think porn strengthens an adopted format but in my opinion, porn has always been late to adopt any new format. Both HD-DVD and BluRay case in point.

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Wait, what's the fuss?

By nekobawt on 8/1/2007 12:45:36 PM , Rating: 3

Yes, Sony is supporting porn in the Bluray format. Japanese porn. In Japan. For the Japanese market. I fail to see what the big to-do is, aside from the fact that there's some pretty wacky Japanese porn out there (fetish website devoted to people crying while eating, anyone?).

RE: Wait, what's the fuss?

By Ringold on 8/2/2007 6:27:12 PM , Rating: 2

The things a society comes up with when constitutionally disallowed from even thinking about military adventures is amazing.

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Porn lovers

By TimberJon on 8/1/2007 11:52:27 AM , Rating: 2

Interesting how of the recent 7 news items, this one recieved the most comments.

RE: Porn lovers

By Gul Westfale on 8/1/2007 6:58:07 PM , Rating: 2

yep... in between watching donita and friends, we learned how to type on t3h interw3bz... :)

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It's Official

By Samus on 8/1/2007 3:14:47 PM , Rating: 4

Sony's game console is now a lean mean pr0n machine.

PS3 and PORN

By SaintSinner1 on 8/1/2007 10:48:10 AM , Rating: 1

Only reason I will ever buy PS3 is if I can buy some good porn on BR DVD. Full 1080p porn priceless ...

RE: PS3 and PORN

By DeepBlue1975 on 8/1/2007 11:03:12 AM , Rating: 2

I just begin to imagine games like:

Super Mario Gross
The need for stick: vinyl
Thong rider
Richard burns really
Ghost lusters

and many many more

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First adult Blu-ray movie was released already in 2006!

By defter on 8/1/2007 11:40:41 AM , Rating: 2

It seems that adult movie industry does just fine without Sony's support.

By ixelion on 8/1/2007 12:27:44 PM , Rating: 2

Super Mario Bang Bros.
Built For Speed: Carbon
Sonic Ride Her's
Ghost Git-your-freak-on: Advanced Warfighter
World of Warcraft: It Burns when I pee.
Command & Conquer: Big t** w***** s****** c*** Edition

Where can i buy hd porn discs?

By freakyshiat on 8/1/2007 3:43:26 PM , Rating: 2

anyone know?

Lol

By Nokool on 8/1/2007 6:43:40 PM , Rating: 2

Am i the only one that finds it funny that a topic on Porn has the most comments of the entire day?

now I get it

By DeepBlue1975 on 8/1/2007 9:55:24 AM , Rating: 1

This was at least a very nasty move.

As someone said once, sexual harassment is not about sex, it's about power.
So, Blue Ray, by giving you sex, wants to get some badass (or, why not, goodass) power.

typical sony and typical porn

By rika13 on 8/1/2007 11:43:12 AM , Rating: 1

typical sony arrogance, they think since they are sony they can do anything they want, and that because they are an entertainment company that makes the players they can make their format the "standard"

too bad for vivid this isn't the 90's and the porn industry no longer wants blodes with implants from LA; czech and slovak girls are the choice now and its smaller studios that make the porn; tastes have gone from late night skinamax without faking it, to "hi, lets do it" as nobody ever watched porn for the story

Makes no sense

By mdogs444 on 8/1/07, Rating: -1

RE: Makes no sense

By Aprime on 8/1/2007 9:47:47 AM , Rating: 2

Porn is restricted (Say, to a certain area of a Blockbuster or to XXX Shops - the Internet doesn't count) while games are very... Public, and ESRB enforcement is at a seller's discretion.

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RE: Makes no sense

By mdogs444 on 8/1/2007 9:51:33 AM , Rating: 1

Public or not, they still have to verify age prior to selling the item, no? and rated "M" is what, 17+? So rated "P" is what, 18+? Im not really seeing the big difference.

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RE: Makes no sense

By Aprime on 8/1/2007 9:58:18 AM , Rating: 2

Read: "and ESRB enforcement (selling A, T or M rated games to minors) is at a seller's discretion."

That, however, isn't the case with pornographic material.

Movies and games = two different worlds. A rated games and pornographic movies = two vastly different worlds.

I was able to get Command & Conquer Tiberian Sun before I turned 13 - I mean, I was about 9 or so, and the clerk basically let me walk out with it.

On another occasion, I was asked to come back with my mother.

I also walked in the pornographic section once by accident ( I was young and I was just wandering around...) and was immediately pulled out of it by a staff member.

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RE: Makes no sense

By mdogs444 on 8/1/2007 10:19:28 AM , Rating: 2

My basic idea was not the legality of selling the items, or who needs to be "carded" for what. I was just commenting on the idea that Sony will not endorse certain "M" rated games to be played on the PS3 because of content, but you can watch Porn on it.

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RE: Makes no sense

By Maskarat on 8/1/2007 10:32:27 AM , Rating: 2

So now it is up to Sony to eradicate the Porn Industry out there? Just because they decided not to publish you next favourite title Bully?

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RE: Makes no sense

By mdogs444 on 8/1/07, Rating: 0

RE: Makes no sense

By euclidean on 8/1/2007 12:53:03 PM , Rating: 1

It makes perfect sense. Sony doesn't want some BS lawsuit against them stating they let games that are too violent/sexual be used by minors...When you first look at it, you wonder who to blame. The retailer? no, it's not a law....no lawsuit there. The Game developer? no, not enough money. Sony? O ya, they have a ton of money and their the ones that distribute it!? To many liberal people are getting out of control over things like this, I'd stop it at the first second they'd try to file one, saying something along that line and then file a lawsuit against the parents saying they don't have any control over what their kids do in life. /rant

Now porn is different....there's actual laws on porn. lol

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RE: Makes no sense

By Oregonian2 on 8/1/2007 2:19:25 PM , Rating: 2

Are they now "endorsing" porn on Blu-ray? I don't read it that way. They just aren't being actively anti-porn against indirect third parties. You would expect skin-identifying software running on the PS3 to detect a porn movie being played and to block it? With games they have intimate involvement in the production of it -- not with movies anywhere near so much, if any.

Besides, I thought Japanese porn, as such, was inherently "censored" in the same way that TV news shows do (fuzzy squiggles in strategic areas). Is this not the case (I vaguely recall seeing a documentary about it a long time ago, don't recall the details)?

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RE: Makes no sense

By SirLucius on 8/1/2007 2:45:03 PM , Rating: 2

Yes, most Japanese porn is censored, although you can find uncensored porn. They are also weird about their censoring laws. They censor pubic hair, but if you completely shave, well...

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RE: Makes no sense

By shabby on 8/1/2007 6:22:33 PM , Rating: 2

Yes... fuzzy censor blob in hd, now thats happenin!

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RE: Makes no sense

By porkpie on 8/1/2007 10:55:06 AM , Rating: 2

> "I also walked in the pornographic section once by accident ( I was young and I was just wandering around...)"

Yeah, yeah. :p

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RE: Makes no sense

By Aprime on 8/1/2007 12:02:45 PM , Rating: 2

Don't judge me. >:0

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RE: Makes no sense

By oTAL on 8/1/2007 11:16:22 AM , Rating: 1

It totally makes sense to me.
If a susceptible child accidentally watches a normal porn movie (not one of those wacko movies involving animals and/or turds), the child will not be highly traumatized, will not get curious about violence, and will not find it entertaining to hurt others.

On the other hand, when playing a game that rewards violence, a susceptible child will be desensitized against violence, may be curious about killing small animals and hurting others and may evolve to be a person dangerous to others.

I find it funny that in the US people can make such a big deal about Janet Jackson's titty, while they have no problem with taking children on school-excursions to the cinema to watch an incredibly violent, mildly anti-semitic movie called "The Passion of the Christ" (a great movie by the way, but not appropriate for children - as the rating indicated).

Love/Sex is good!
Violence is bad!
I don't know how anyone can get those two mixed up...

By this I'm not saying that kids should watch porn. I'm just saying I have less of a problem with that than with violence. And I'd have no problem with young people being exposed to nudity in a constructive way (educational/artistic/whatever).

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RE: Makes no sense

By oTAL on 8/1/2007 11:24:28 AM , Rating: 2

I could understand the Janet Jackson issue on a taste perspective... I mean, if I was having dinner and I suddenly saw that ugly titty I'd probably loose my appetite. Very distasteful.
But if the same situation happened with a ripe, young titty, then that would be a totally different story. Beautiful works of art should be seen as much as possible, and even as an atheist I can say that some breasts look like they have been sculpted by a god. And sometimes they´re just the work of a very good surgeon.

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RE: Makes no sense

By mdogs444 on 8/1/2007 11:34:23 AM , Rating: 2

And we need more of those good surgeons :-)

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RE: Makes no sense

By BiuTech on 8/1/2007 11:57:08 AM , Rating: 2

By this I'm not saying that kids should watch porn. I'm just saying I have less of a problem with that than with violence.

This may be a somewhat opinionated topic, however, there is much research that has been done concerning pornography and its effects on people; along with possible links to violence. Now I'm not saying that porn causes violence, that would almost be like saying that violent games cause children to be violent. There are so many factors that affect a person's well being it seems ignorant to pinpoint it on one thing.
That being said, I think it's a bit irresponsible, not to mention ignorant, to suggest that porn is 'less' harmful than violence. Who's to say that it is not more so?

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RE: Makes no sense

By The Sword 88 on 8/1/2007 12:04:57 PM , Rating: 2

Well I am for one am glad to see a company that puts morals over profit margins. While I wish Sony had completely stayed away from porn at least they are trying to minimize it.

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RE: Makes no sense

By oTAL on 8/1/2007 2:32:36 PM , Rating: 2

That's easy to observe...
You look for countries in the world with lighter restrictions on nudity and sexual content (say northern Europe or certain countries in eastern Europe) and you compare their violence rates with countries with similar policies on violence, but more restrictive on nudity and sexual content.

Then you look at countries with similar restrictions on nudity and sex but different restrictions on violence restriction and you compare again.

By observation, and, without an in-depth study (this is VERY empiric and I have done so without scientific or statistical considerations), I found that there's a pattern. Countries with high morality when it comes to sex, but low on restrictions against violence, gun control (I know this is a separate issue, but again I found it to be part of the pattern), etc., are more violent than those that control violent content while having little restrictions on nudity and sexual content.

This post will probably be downrated like my previous one due to the predominance of americans on DT.
The truth is most American have no idea how much more violent your large cities are compared to most European cities. Furthermore, many americans would be amazed by how normal it is to go to the beach and see topless women. It's also not rare turning on the TV and seeing full nudity at any time of the day, if the context is appropriate.
A few days ago I saw a news story about nude beaches on TV during lunch time, and the reporter was interviewing nude people on the beach. It's not everyday, but it's no big deal...

Not much crime and violence around here..... (and the crime we do have is mostly drug related).

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RE: Makes no sense

By BiuTech on 8/1/2007 3:33:29 PM , Rating: 2

Pornography, in all its self-indulgent filth, does nothing to edify an individual. It's demeaning and selfish. How many families does this effect and dissolve? I know of many broken families because of it. In result, how does this benefit a society?

I see your point, but the observation is very generalized and subjective. I lived in Argentina for several years which, like Europe, has low restrictions on sex and nudity, and gun control, and violence. Their violence is extremely high. What is to blame? Again, while there does seem to be a pattern, there are so many factors that empirical conclusions, in my opinion, fail to address the issue sufficiently. I do agree, however, that a lot of violence and crime is drug related.

A little more on topic, unfortunately I am not surprised that Sony gave in to the adult entertainment industry. Beta Max anyone?

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RE: Makes no sense

By PresidentThomasJefferson on 8/1/2007 7:54:39 PM , Rating: 1

ARgentina has relatively high crime due to higher levels of poverty, causing them to resort to drugdealing/crimne .. mass poverty is directly related to population growth exceeding job growth. Mass poverty (in Latin Catholic America & Africa/MiddleEast) is DIRECTLY RELATED to government banning of abortion & restriction of birth control/sex ed in Latin Catholic America, Africa, & Middle East(which is prohibited by most Catholic, conservative Christian, & Musim religions). In those countries, they have a high rate of teen pregnancies & high birth rate that exceeds their job growth rate (thus, driving down the price of wagees due to the huge supply of labor)

Conversely, China & India experienced drops in crime 1 generation later upon adopting birth control programs (as well as booming economy).

The US likewise experieced a 40% drop in crime in the 90s(1 generation later) upon legalization of abortion (this is because this eliminated a large demographic that statistics say is responsible for most crime (males aged teens to 20s) -- abortions being mostly used by poor young women. Note that the US has 1 to 2 million abortions per year (30-40+ million so far --even if only 1% of those would have committed a crime, that's 3 to 4 million less criminals)

Note that I'm not advocating abortion.. just birth control (contraception & contraceptive education) so that population growth does not exceed job growth.

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RE: Makes no sense

By The Sword 88 on 8/2/2007 1:23:20 AM , Rating: 2

Sounds a lot like you are advocating abortion to me...

But anyway, why cant these people just not have so much sex? Really, come on now, its hard but you can do it. And if you cant then use birth control!

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RE: Makes no sense

By oTAL on 8/2/2007 5:53:03 AM , Rating: 2

You are right.
It does not benefit society as a whole.
It does take some pressure of the individual and it did give me some good moments growing up, however.

But who are you to decide what should be abolished or not? Cigarettes are harmful for society. Should we just make them illegal? Gambling is mostly harmful... Ban that too?
Drinking is mostly harmful. We've been there and we saw that banning it didn't work.

Why don't we just educate people towards these issues and let them decide instead of forcing the decisions on them?
It has been proven to work better....

All these things I mentioned are actually somewhat harmful to society while pornography, on the other hand, is mostly harmless. It may harm some individuals when, like prostitution, girls are coerced into something they don't want to do. But those cases could be avoided and legislated against.

And taking your argument a little further... isn't sex (without the purpose of reproduction) "self-indulgent filth"?
It doesn't produce anything... it's pleasure for the sake of pleasure...
My opinion: it makes me happy and I deserve it! And, not as a cause but as a goal, it actually makes me a better person. I want to be cultured, successful, friendly and an overall better person to fulfil my life objectives. Amongst those goals I want a wife which is not only a good companion but also a good lay. To get that perfect woman I desire (I already have her) I needed to be an overall better man than those around me and that goal, together with others, made me strive for self-improvement.

As for your question.... How many families do I know that were broken by pornography? None! It actually sounds STUPID! How can pornography brake apart families? (I'm talking from the viewers and not the performers point of view.)

That's one of those things that I don't see happening in Europe... at least not in most countries... I mean, if my girlfriend caught me watching porn she would never brake up with me. She could give a hard time with stupid questions and some insecurity... she could ask me why and force an explanation out of me... after that we would laugh about it and she would probably give me a hard time trying to embarrass me in front of my friends by actually saying she caught me and making it look worse than it was! But we would NEVER break up because of that.
And if I wanted to watch a porn film with her she would have no problem with it... it's a different kind of entertainment and it can spice things up when someone says "hey! we never did THAT!".
Of all the girls I dated there's only one that was self-righteous enough (she was a lawyer) to think that masturbation was wrong ("kids growing up stuff", she thought) and that pornography was filth. But not even her would ever dream of forcing those beliefs onto others.

It's funny that the so called "land of the free" is so filled with people trying to limit individual freedom.

Summarizing: I have watched porn in the past and I will most certainly watch porn in the future. It has never harmed me or others in any way. Quite the contrary! It has helped me with pressure relief while growing up and it gave me self-confidence for a decent experience the first times I had sex (it's quite hard when you have no idea what you are doing... no matter what you say, it doesn't actually "happens naturally"). I love sex and as such I have read about it a lot also, in a scientific way. Never harmed - quite the opposite. It made me a better lover and gave me a lot of confidence in my romantic life, which reflected towards all aspects of my life .

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RE: Makes no sense

By BiuTech on 8/2/2007 10:58:32 AM , Rating: 2

Dude, everyone has the right to choose what they want to do. I'm not advocating a ban or forcing people to make a certain decision. That's why I love America, people can be who they want to be with more freedoms than other places in the world. And if someone doesn't like it they can decide to move.

Regardless, it seems like many have just lost all sense of shame. Saying that Porn has made you a better person is naive and ignorant indeed. There is research out there on the effects, psychological for example, look for it.

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