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Storm 2 doesn't change much from its predecessor

Either a Photoshop wizard with a knack for the subtle and boring has just created a masterpiece, or the first legitimate photos of the Blackberry Storm 2 have hit the web.  The pictures confirm the statements Research in Motion, the most dominant player in the smartphone industry, had previously made regarding the second generation Storm. 

The phone, codenamed "Oden", after the Norse god of storms, hopes to offer improvements where the original Storm had shortcomings.  However, hardware-wise the phone is remarkably similar to its predecessor, which helps to lend credence to the photos. 

The phone's back is identical -- a dark gray brushed aluminum case with a 3.2 MP camera with autofocus and flash mounted above it.  The front looks a bit different, though, as the click buttons for call, menu, back, and terminate have been switched to touch screen buttons.  Likewise, the side is slightly changed with rocker switch for volume and the camera button becoming more rounded and shifting from chrome to the same gray/black of the rest of the casing. 

One trouble spot could be the headphone jack.  Whereas the Storm had a flat jack, perfect for any headphone model, the Storm 2 appears to have joined the iPhone in having a recessed jack.  Looks may be deceiving, but it could hint that Blackberry is hoping to gain more control over its headphone and accessory sales.

The phone, according to sources, is the GSM version.  Among its rumored new features are Wi-Fi, GPS and a supposedly "new approach to text entry".  However, the most critical thing to the phone's reception will likely be what's inside.  The first Storm was slow and unresponsive; between its processor, chipset, and OS, the Storm 2 will have to remedy this or risk getting blasted by critics.

The Storm 2 is rumored to be set for a September release on Verizon.  Other reported Blackberries soon to be released include phones codenamed Gemini and Onyx/Driftwood.

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By TomZ on 5/15/2009 1:04:15 PM , Rating: 2
As I understand it, the Storm was mainly plagued by software issues. So how does RIM fix the updaing the hardware...?

I had seriously considered getting a Storm, however, I decided not to because of the buggy software. I'm hoping that they get those issues all ironed out.

RE: Hardware/Software
By joey2264 on 5/15/2009 1:11:34 PM , Rating: 3
They have fixed most of those issues. I suggest you check the phone out. I just bought two last Friday (the Buy a blackberry, get a second blackberry free promotion), and they work fairly well.

RE: Hardware/Software
By alphadog on 5/15/2009 1:22:31 PM , Rating: 2
I want a phone that works *really* well, not *fairly* well.

RE: Hardware/Software
By Bonrock on 5/15/2009 1:57:08 PM , Rating: 5
Then I'm afraid you're stuck getting a regular ol' dumbphone. I've had or used every top-tier smartphone out there--iPhone, Blackberry Storm, T-Mobile G1 (Google Android), and various Windows Mobile phones--and they all have their issues. I've found the iPhone to be marginally better than the rest, but I certainly wouldn't say that any of them work *really* well.

Maybe the Palm Pre, when it comes out (supposedly next month)?

RE: Hardware/Software
By AlexWade on 5/15/2009 2:37:53 PM , Rating: 2
My Blackberry Bold works really well. No dropped calls like some of my other phones. (And yes it was the phone because I later found out it was recalled.) It had issues staying connected to 3G, but a software update fixed that problem. Since then, sunshine and lollipops.

P.S. Officially, the Storm is not top-tier Blackberry, but the Bold is. Having used the Storm and the Curve and the Bold, the Bold UI is by miles better. The Bold is the best phone I've ever used, even iPhone. I've had Nokia (the American ones are junk), Motorola (once good, now junk), Ericsson (the next best thing to an iPhone or Blackberry Bold), LG (nothing special), and Palm (3rd best smartphone). I never owned an iPhone, but spent several hours using one. It is better than the Storm but not better than the Bold. What makes the iPhone special is the app store. I will never trade my Bold for any other phone.

RE: Hardware/Software
By MadMan007 on 5/15/2009 10:14:28 PM , Rating: 2
...until next year's new shiny toy comes out, eh consumer whore?

RE: Hardware/Software
By callmeroy on 5/18/2009 8:18:09 AM , Rating: 2

To each their own , its their money and yadda yadda on all that disclaimer bs....BUT even still -- I'm amazed , truly and honestly amazed how so INTO phones some folks are, actually a LOT of folks are these days --- to an obsessive nature.

I've had one (very basic) cell phone for nearly 10 years now (well not quite about 7), serves me fine for $42.99 a month. I am thinking of replacing it because its dinged up (been dropped a few times, jammed under a door once, etc.) but I'm not sure I'd pony up hundreds or settle with a $100 (or near $100) a month phone bill just to be Mr. Look At Me I'm Joe Cool Guy.

If your WORK gives you a "fancy" phone and you really are that busy -- that's a different story. Though, I tend to think even with business most people over exaggerate their importance or level of "busy" to warrant obsessive phone use 24/7.

RE: Hardware/Software
By Alexstarfire on 5/16/2009 2:51:51 AM , Rating: 2
I would agree that Ericsson is probably the best non-smartphone. Not even sure if they make a smartphone since I haven't look at all their latest products in years. Apparently I have one of their crappier phones and even it's not that bad. Wish I had read some reviews before I bought it, but that was totally my fault. All the other phones I've had work like a dream and are quite durable. I have seen the Xprevia, I think that's what it's called, and it seems amazing. They claim 11 hours of talk time on what looks like an iPhone type phone. Wish they had it in stores so I could test it out, but the US rarely gets any Ericsson phones in stores.

Only downside I see is the rather expensive Sony memory sticks you need for the phones.

RE: Hardware/Software
By Hieyeck on 5/17/2009 11:11:22 AM , Rating: 3
Having used a wide range of phones, I actually miss the old Nokia bricks (like the 3220). That call quality was good, picked up reception where other phones failed, and it was durable - I kicked it off a brick wall and dropped it off a two story building and it still worked (after finding a $10 faceplate to hold the battery in).

By no means can you pry a Blackberry from my cold, dead hands, but what happened to that kind of quality?

RE: Hardware/Software
By Sazar on 5/15/2009 2:15:17 PM , Rating: 3
All phones work really well, or not well at all, depending on your needs, expectations, usage and various and sundry other factors :)

Personally, my pet peeve with the Storm was the laggy interface (compared to the iphone) and the clicking of the screen to select things. That was a HUGE pain in the behind and completely un-needed for a capacitive screen product.

RE: Hardware/Software
By Samus on 5/15/2009 10:57:09 PM , Rating: 5
Blackberry for life! The iPhone is a fucking toy.

RE: Hardware/Software
By Motoman on 5/16/2009 1:46:31 AM , Rating: 2
Meh. I'm on my 3rd or so Blackberry as mandated by work. My Treo was better. The original Treo. Later ones probably even more better.

And frankly, I prefer my personal LG Envy (1, not 2) to the Blackberry too.

RE: Hardware/Software
By Donkey2008 on 5/16/2009 1:46:44 PM , Rating: 2
uh huh.

Have BlackBerry owners officially become fanbois?

RE: Hardware/Software
By sdsdv10 on 5/17/2009 9:11:28 PM , Rating: 3
Have BlackBerry owners officially become fanbois?

Yes, didn't you get the memo? It was texted out to everyone...

RE: Hardware/Software
By callmeroy on 5/18/2009 8:24:12 AM , Rating: 3
Forget that memo, I want someone to resend me the memo that the French took over ownership of "fan boys" --- "fanbois"?

Or is the "bois" pronounced like how you'd say "DuBois"? :>

RE: Hardware/Software
By Chadder007 on 5/15/2009 6:08:27 PM , Rating: 2
Same here
Ive updated to OS version .132 and its working good now. They still have room for improvement though of course.

RE: Hardware/Software
By Souka on 5/15/2009 1:59:22 PM , Rating: 2
Storm's CPU has been said to be underpowered for the job at hand...despite the CPU being more capable than the iPhone's.

So as stated in the article, hopefully they'll address the CPU issue with both hardware and better coded software.

I'd personally like to see a little snappier keyboard input...often it can't keep up with my typing and misses key presses. Other thing is better battery life...

By FITCamaro on 5/15/2009 2:24:24 PM , Rating: 5
I had heard it was going to have a slide out QWERTY keyboard. I really wanted that as I hate touch screen keyboards.

RE: Damn
By Motoman on 5/15/2009 2:32:24 PM , Rating: 4
Seconded. Put a real keyboard on it, or peddle your toys elsewhere. Bah. Meddling kids!

RE: Damn
By austinag on 5/15/2009 5:00:43 PM , Rating: 2
In my day, we had phones with buttons, and we liked it. (use old man voice for proper effect)

RE: Damn
By Bubbacub on 5/15/2009 8:56:56 PM , Rating: 2
get a curve or a bold then.

RE: Damn
By FITCamaro on 5/15/2009 9:37:29 PM , Rating: 1
I'm thinking HTC Touch.

RE: Damn
By Motoman on 5/16/2009 1:47:07 AM , Rating: 2
I'm thinking LG Voyager.

RE: Damn
By Aloonatic on 5/16/2009 4:47:42 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe a Nokia N97?

Touch screen and a "Slide-out QWERTY Key Mat", whatever one of those is. :-D

Apparently out some time in June/July

RE: Damn
By FITCamaro on 5/16/2009 9:35:34 AM , Rating: 2
Definitely gonna look at that!

RE: Damn
By Motoman on 5/16/2009 4:02:30 PM , Rating: 2
In all seriousness, go look at the LG Voyager. It's sweet. And available now.

RE: Damn
By FITCamaro on 5/16/2009 10:10:03 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not looking to get something now. Looking for feb of next year.

RE: Damn
By DeepBlue1975 on 5/17/2009 7:50:49 PM , Rating: 2
Same opinion here.

Why would someone want a BUSINESS ORIENTED smartphone with no actual physical keyboard?

Touchscreens are a nice plus for some applications, but for a business phone you might find yourself using for sending many emails and taking notes, the lack of a traditional keyboard is a total deal breaker.

Typing on a screen might be enough to send a text message saying "ok" or "not now", but for long texting it's a real pain.

Looks pretty nice
By quiksilvr on 5/15/2009 12:14:42 PM , Rating: 3
These are some pretty exciting times, long gone are these days:

RE: Looks pretty nice
By theplaidfad on 5/15/2009 12:30:09 PM , Rating: 1
Yes, long gone are the days of cartoon cell phones arguing with each other at a reunion... and thank god.

Codenamed Oden
By ArcliteHawaii on 5/15/2009 7:19:47 PM , Rating: 2
The phone, codenamed "Oden", after the Japanese winter dish of the same name, hopes to offer improvements where the original Storm had shortcomings. Like the food, the new Storm will be waterproof and be able to withstand temperatures up to the boiling point of water without disintegrating. The phone will be available in these colors: daikon white, konnyaku gray, kamoboko pink, shiitake brown, and mustard yellow. It will not, however, be edible.

RE: Codenamed Oden
By soloman02 on 5/16/2009 12:44:07 AM , Rating: 2
I think the actual codename is "odin" and whoever leaked the codename spelled it wrong as Odin is the Norse God of storms.

I could be wrong, but this makes more sense logically.

By jay401 on 5/15/2009 8:55:48 PM , Rating: 2
If it still has the same click-in touchscreen hardware the first one had, most of the people who disliked the first one will dislike this one.

RE: well
By HopJokey on 5/16/2009 12:03:41 AM , Rating: 2
They won't have the same click-in touchscreen according to Engadget:

gotta love Irony
By QueBert on 5/16/09, Rating: 0
RE: gotta love Irony
By atlmann10 on 5/16/2009 12:05:56 PM , Rating: 2
I am still using my env2 and to tell you the truth I love it. It is hardware capable to do everything from web surfing, to playing music, gps, camera, download etc and I like the mini chiclet keyboard better than a touch screen. I am waiting for a device that is more like android, as I like open source, where anyone can make anything they see fit to make.

Mainly it is the apps for me on that end, look at Mozilla you can customize it to anything you want. Then look at things like ccleaner and Defraggler as well as many other apps. Open source is way faster than dedicated development and in many cases more functional..

By Donkey2008 on 5/16/2009 1:43:22 PM , Rating: 2
I eagerly awaited my Storm to arrive late last year to replace my steadfast Bold. Much to my shock, the Storm was no "iPhone Killer" as it was unofficially promoted by Verizon and RIM. Fast forward 6 months and happily using an iPhone everyday with ActivSync. No issues, no problems.

IMO, if you want a touchscreen, there is no substitute for iPhone, but RIM owns everything else. Both companies make good products, it's just a matter of preference.

"And boy have we patented it!" -- Steve Jobs, Macworld 2007
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