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New titles always try to push the limit of modern hardware, but did Crysis go too far?

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Whats with all the criticism?
By pauldovi on 11/1/2007 2:00:12 PM , Rating: 5
You know... you don't have to play Crysis at all Ultra High settings with 16x AA.....

At lower settings most gaming computers can play the game. The game still looks amazing at these lower settings.

Whats wrong with a game that will stretch hardware for the next few years?




RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Martimus on 11/1/2007 2:05:05 PM , Rating: 3
I agree. I played the Crysis Demo on my computer without even the slightest slow down, and it looked great on low-medium settings. To top it off, I have a 3 year old computer. I expected the worst when I downloaded the demo, but I have been rather impressed. The game scales very well, and seems pretty well optimized for lower settings.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By euclidean on 11/1/2007 2:14:59 PM , Rating: 1
GG for them waiting and optimizing the game instead of releasing when they originally planned. Smart decision on their part.

On a side note, avg of 50 fps on med settings 1280x1024 reso w/a 7800GT/2GB DDR2800/X2 4600+. Maybe I can stretch it out another 6-8 months before I upgrade then lol :|


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By walk2k on 11/1/2007 3:43:05 PM , Rating: 3
Did you get 50fps average from the benchmark? Because I had a 4400+ with 7800GT and certainly did NOT get 50fps average on "medium" settings.

More like 25fps average.

I just upgraded to a 8800GT and on "medium" settings at 1280x1024 I get 45fps average (high 64, low 25).

In case you didn't know, the benchmark is in the game folder, there's two .BAT files there, one for GPU and one for CPU. Run that and get back to us.....


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By darkpaw on 11/1/2007 4:01:44 PM , Rating: 3
Yah, I highly doubt that 50fps mark too. I was pulling 20-30ish at 1280 medium settings measured by fraps with 7800GT in SLI.

I need to try out the benchmarks you mentioned and see what those results are.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By therealnickdanger on 11/1/2007 5:05:11 PM , Rating: 2
Here's the setup I ran with and maxed at 65fps and had minimal dips:

Vista 32-bit
E6300
7950GT
2GB DDR2-800

800x600, no AA/AF, mixture of low, medium, high settings (mostly low).

It looked fantastic even with such "low" settings.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Scrogneugneu on 11/1/2007 7:28:15 PM , Rating: 2
800x600?

I seriously doubt I'll ever play any (recent/future) game at that resolution.


By therealnickdanger on 11/2/2007 12:29:08 AM , Rating: 2
Well... enjoy not playing it. :P

I can go up to 1280x960 with everything "low" and stay above 30fps, but I'd rather it be a lot smoother.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By darkpaw on 11/1/2007 8:44:23 PM , Rating: 2
X2-3800
2x7800GT
4GB PC3200
Vista 64

800x600 all at medium ran the built in benchmarks 3 times each got this for my averages:

CPU: 15.51, 18.46, 19.12
GPU: 18.85, 19.98, 20.01

Geez that is some crummy performance at such a low resolution.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By leexgx on 11/4/2007 10:17:19 PM , Rating: 2
how to run the benchmarks

seems an littel poor performace

all med @ 1024x768 (Default install settings not changed the settings)

my game performace is fine

5000+ X2 Black edition @ 3.2ghz
XP 32
4gb ram
8800 GTX (Single)

SLI does not work with it yet i guess as them scores seems poor?


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Samus on 11/1/2007 6:15:36 PM , Rating: 2
Yea, I didn't have a problem playing it with all the eye candy, but then again not everyone has an 8800, either.

My friend with a 7900GS, which plays everything else (Battlefield 2142, HL2, etc) just awesome, couldn't break 30FPS in Crysis even at 1024x768 with a lot of detail down.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Polynikes on 11/1/2007 11:45:02 PM , Rating: 1
I beg to differ. Crysis doesn't scale well at all. The Source engine, now that, that scales well. My rig consists of:

x6800 watercooled and OC'd quite a bit
2GB DDR2-1066 RAM
x1950XTX/Crossfire card
2 Raptors in RAID0

And I was averaging 20 to 25 FPS with all settings set to Medium at 1680x1050. In HL2: Episode 2, with ALL the settings fully maxed, I was getting framerates of 120+, and I think the Source engine still looks really good.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By jkostans on 11/2/2007 8:12:48 AM , Rating: 2
I have a rig capable of playing farcry with most settings at high and it looks great. Then I load crysis with everything at low to get a comaprable framerate and it looks on par with Tribes. So no it doesn't scale well at all.

Unfortunately this is how progress is made with the latest hardware. The leap in this last generation of cards was huge, as was the one before that, and the one before that. We as consumers demand this, but then complain when the performance difference in new generations of software is comparable. Crysis is good for the industry, as it raises the bar. I won't be playing it because the low settings really detract from the gameplay, but when I do build a new rig this will be the first thing I try out (along with oblivion again just to see what it's like maxed at 60fps).


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Noya on 11/2/2007 12:26:01 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. Jumping from FarCry, FEAR, CoD2 and Bioshock on high settings to Crysis on low @ 800x600 is disappointing, especialy when even the $500 top dog GTX won't even max it...so much for 1080p gaming (unless you're loaded or it's your main hobby).


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By MPE on 11/1/2007 2:20:32 PM , Rating: 2
Because hard core requirements, in my opinion, is an artificial way of extending the life span of a game. For all intent and purpose Crysis is just another FPS. But since most FPS don't really introduce new things to gameplay (aka actual new content and ideas) hard-core graphics is another way from unimaginative programmers to justify their pay checks. I suggest firing some of the graphics guys and hiring more writers actual designers.

TF2 with its humble requirements would probably outlast Crysis' shelf life.

...from a guy with hard-core setup (8800 GTX SLI, 3 GB of RAM, etc, etc).

.02


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Hakuryu on 11/1/2007 2:39:50 PM , Rating: 4
I guess the destructible enviroments, huge open areas (much bigger than most other games), and the complicated team AI aren't enough to make this more than just another FPS for you?

I'd actually put that tag on the largely console/casual gamer game TF2. Look at how much was nerfed from the original like the ultra-fun grenade types.

I prefer gameplay over graphics, but Crysis looks like one game that has both.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By RandomFool on 11/1/2007 2:52:23 PM , Rating: 2
I don't miss grenades in TF2, TF2 is way better than many of the "look how much shit and realism we can put on screen at once" FPSs.

Crysis I know nothing about but there's nothing in that list that hasn't been done by other games in the past. Although Crysis probably does them better the others.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By omnicronx on 11/1/2007 3:41:35 PM , Rating: 2
Please.. nobody compare ANYTHING to TF2, the game was suppose to be released 8 years ago..


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 11/1/2007 4:23:59 PM , Rating: 5
I will compare TF2 to Duke Nukem Forever.....


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Future145 on 11/1/2007 4:27:30 PM , Rating: 2
but TF2 is out tho and Forver is still being "developed"


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By omnicronx on 11/1/2007 5:49:00 PM , Rating: 2
When i say 8 years, I am not over exadurating. The game was suppose to be released almost 8 years ago, and had been in 'development' for longer. It must hold the record for the longest start to finish game ever. I remember looking forward to TF2 back in the TFC days, and that was what.. 1999? Delay after delay turned into me not caring. Funny thing is the original game was suppose to be on a modified halflife 1 engine. I wonder how many engines it took to reach this point.


By imaheadcase on 11/1/2007 7:53:34 PM , Rating: 4
Who cares about release date crap, its a great game. The graphics are modern, the gameplay is balanced, and its just flat out fun.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By NicePants42 on 11/1/2007 4:53:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, shame on those programmers for giving us more video options! They should have instead spent their time coming up with ways to further diversify the game play and encourage the use of various play styles!

Oh, wait...


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By MPE on 11/2/2007 9:56:36 AM , Rating: 2
What diversity? What new play styles?

Turning on AA to x4 is not new game play.
Ageia physics is not a new play style.


By NicePants42 on 11/2/2007 11:07:46 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't say the play styles were new - I implied was that they were enhanced by the abilities that the combat suit provides. A wider range of capabilities allows for more diverse game play scenarios.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Samus on 11/1/2007 6:19:14 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, just another FPS? The Crysis engine is amazing. I'd consider Unreal 3 more of a evolutionary FPS, but even the original Cryo engine was amazing for its time.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By FITCamaro on 11/1/2007 2:21:30 PM , Rating: 5
It's a freaking comic. It's meant to be funny. Not analyzed.

I laughed when I saw it. I didn't think "Well my computer was able to play it above that."

Christ some of you people need to get out more.


By littleprince on 11/1/2007 2:39:02 PM , Rating: 2
You hit the nail on the head...
Its a comic...
This isn't news...

Next week will be a comic complaining about how there is no gd software to take advantage of the latest hardware. Go figure...


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Omega215D on 11/1/2007 2:41:26 PM , Rating: 3
I don't think my head can handle the richness of the graphics in the real world.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By FITCamaro on 11/1/2007 3:08:07 PM , Rating: 5
Stop smoking pot and theres a lot less colors to process.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By slacker57 on 11/1/2007 5:41:40 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, like totally. The real world has, like, DX5000 graphics, ya know?


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By CrimsonFrost on 11/1/2007 5:57:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Ya, like totally. The real world has, like, DX5000 graphics, ya know?


Anyone else have an image of "Jeremy" from "purepwnage" saying that?


By PunaProgrammer chris on 11/1/2007 11:17:40 PM , Rating: 2
Yup. Actually, I think that was a line from when he was talking to the guy from the TV studio's GF (or something similar to that line.).


By ZaethDekar on 11/1/2007 2:46:49 PM , Rating: 2
But its dailytech, thats what we do.

I laughed too, only because a few friends and I played it and they were complaining about low FPS yet I am running around with 40+ FPS on all medium settings and a few at high. Granted I guess the mainstream resolution isn't 1280x1024.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Moishe on 11/1/2007 2:51:43 PM , Rating: 2
The comic only says that the guy can't run a new game at reasonable speeds. Could be that he's running a P2-300 w/ 128MB of RAM or that the game requires a huge amount of power.

The attached comment is what mentions Crysis.

It's partially true, and the comic is intended to make a statement, not solely intended to be funny. The statement it makes is bogus. The game runs fine on PCs old and new...

Old hardware can't run new stuff... that's just life. To complain about it is ridiculous.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Aiserou on 11/1/2007 2:58:04 PM , Rating: 2
Just FYI, the picture on his screen is one of the popular Crysis marketing images. Just thought I would point that out, especially since I agree with the rest of your statement.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Moishe on 11/1/2007 3:51:06 PM , Rating: 2
I looked at that... and I wondered, but as much as I've seen of Crysis I didn't recognize it... ohh well, it's been a busy and stressful day.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By spindoc on 11/1/2007 5:56:05 PM , Rating: 2
I thought is was Commander Keen or perhaps the Bionic Commando.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By walk2k on 11/1/2007 6:27:11 PM , Rating: 1
I thought it was Halo.

I also thought it was drawn by a 7-year old.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Spivonious on 11/1/2007 3:07:35 PM , Rating: 2
He's obviously not on a P2-300. Look at all of the old video cards in the trash next to the newly opened box. He's obviously just upgraded his video card to the latest and greatest and is excited over getting 7fps. Hilarious IMO.


By Assimilator87 on 11/1/2007 3:34:41 PM , Rating: 2
lol, I didn't even catch that.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By omnicronx on 11/1/2007 5:51:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's a freaking comic. It's meant to be funny. Not analyzed.
What if it was in a New Yorker comic.. Analyze THAT!


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Moishe on 11/1/2007 2:46:19 PM , Rating: 2
People like to whine. :)

Fact is, pushing the hardware is smart because it ensures that their game is not obsolete in 6 months. It will push anything out now and they even claim that they have other stuff that they can turn on to push future hardware as well.

My box can only run it well at Med res/low settings, but even on low the game looks a lot like FarCry, which is a nice looking game.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Screwballl on 11/1/2007 2:49:23 PM , Rating: 1
All medium settings is full DX9.0c
High is DX10 and I believe Very High is DX10.1

If your computer has problems at all medium (regardless of AA and other extra settings) then you have deeper problems than just this game (like outdated hardware).

I played it just fine on my system at all medium and it was fluid smooth. All high was playable but a bit laggy.
E6600, X1950GT, 2GB DDR2

Remember, do NOT base this or any other game on framerates. 30fps on this game is very much playable compared to CS:S where 30fps is not playable.
Too many people see the numbers and it has the placebo effect: "Oh I only get 30 so it is not playable".. bullshit. Play the game and ignore the framerates until after you've completed it. Note the laggy or jumpy spots and check your framerates the next time you play through that same spot.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By FITCamaro on 11/1/2007 3:06:04 PM , Rating: 2
Very high is DX10. Hence why its not an option under Windows XP.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Screwballl on 11/1/2007 3:08:34 PM , Rating: 2
I understood High depends on the OS, High in XP is all eye candy minus the DX10 extras... but high in Vista shows the DX10 extras.
I have not tested this so cannot verify... for all we know medium may have DX10 extras as well but this is so new we haven't seen the official/unofficial comparison yet.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By ZaethDekar on 11/1/2007 3:16:09 PM , Rating: 2
There is a difference between DX 10 and DX9 versions.

My brother can play at 1680x1050 or whatever res with medium in DX9 with a 320 GTS flawlessly, while med in vista with DX10 he can hardly play medium with the same res.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By FITCamaro on 11/1/2007 3:27:58 PM , Rating: 2
Ah, didn't know that. Guess it makes sense.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Screwballl on 11/1/2007 3:51:20 PM , Rating: 2
and yet another reason why I refuse to go to Vista... I am a gamer


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 11/1/2007 4:26:00 PM , Rating: 2
Go into the options on Vista and change it to DX9. 'nuff said.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By CascadingDarkness on 11/1/2007 6:41:02 PM , Rating: 2
Previously when people asked me "How do I make Vista work better on a gaming machine?"

My response was "format and install XP."

With DX10 being actually fully implemented I'm going to change my tune.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By omnicronx on 11/1/2007 6:53:31 PM , Rating: 2
Just when i thought there was no hope =D


By Locutus465 on 11/2/2007 5:42:27 PM , Rating: 2
Options? Change to directx 9? I've never heard of this (running 64B Vista Ultimiate). Could I get some more details?


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By omnicronx on 11/1/2007 6:11:03 PM , Rating: 6
Yes because it is Vista's fault that it implements DX10, which looks different from DX9, and requires faster hardware to do so.. Progression is the devil, what will we ever do.

Why not just go back to programming in dos with stick characters and 2 bit sound. I bet you could pull 10000fps @ infinite resolutions.

Just another reason NOT to use any version of windows.

Here are some screens to show my point:

http://www6.incrysis.com/images/incrysis_3dwaves_d...
http://www6.incrysis.com/images/incrysis_3dwaves_d...
Notice the vast difference in reflections

http://www6.incrysis.com/images/incrysis_mountains...
http://www6.incrysis.com/images/incrysis_mountains...
Notice the hilltops and how they actually look like forest

http://www6.incrysis.com/images/incrysis_sunshafts...
http://www6.incrysis.com/images/incrysis_sunshafts...
Higher detail pretty much everywhere, sun looks much more realistic

And here are the differences in quality
DX 9 LOW: http://www3.incrysis.com/screenshots/Island_LOW_DX...
DX9 MED: http://www3.incrysis.com/screenshots/Island_MID_DX...
DX9 HIGH:http://www3.incrysis.com/screenshots/Island_HIGH_D...
DX10 VERY HIGH:http://www3.incrysis.com/screenshots/Island_VERYHI...

If you can't tell the difference, you should abandon your PC altogether, as a console would be right down your ally. Why buy a new video card if you are not going to take advantage of its features?


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By VERTIGGO on 11/3/2007 10:58:54 PM , Rating: 2
DX10 mode uses much better rendering and post-processing effects but isn't the same thing as high vs. ultra. Ultra settings may not be available in DX9 mode, but running low med high in DX10 still uses advanced shading in post-process over DX9 low med high.

Your water is flat which means it can't be high even in DX9. The trees on the mountain are object detail, which may be available only in ultra, but doesn't necessarily have anything to do with DX10.


By fleshconsumed on 11/1/2007 3:48:15 PM , Rating: 3
Well, the issue is that while most of the newer cards such as 8800/2900XT are fine running Crysis in 12x10 resolution that is so typical for 17" LCD, the resolution itself is not so typical anymore. LCD prices have really come down lately (Office Max Soyo 24" monitor for $300 is the best example) and plenty of people have 20-24" widescreen monitors with 16x10 or even 19x12 resolution. At those resolutions even with 8800GT you need to set at least some if not most settings on medium to let you play comfortably, nobody is even talking about turning AA or AF on. That is the gist of the issue - there aren't that many people left who run games at 1024x768 or 1280x1024.


By Runiteshark on 11/1/2007 4:47:22 PM , Rating: 2
Next thing you know Doom 3 or Quake 4 will trash our 6800 Ultras!!!!!!

Oh wait.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By iVTec on 11/1/2007 6:11:11 PM , Rating: 2
I liked this comic more than the previous,i have to admit...

It's not the developers fault,even IF Crysis was THAT demanding...The developers are just building on the new features and capabilities DX10 offers...For years hardware kept in front of software,now it's payback time.We all knew that the transition from DX9 to DX10 would be a messy one...So,the 8000/HD2000 series offered extraordinary performance,yet they were just the "bridge" to the era change...Soon h/w will be able to keep up better with DX10/10.1 games and all will be happy:P


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By P4blo on 11/2/2007 7:00:24 AM , Rating: 2
I find the chugfactor with many new games frustrating. With Quake 1 it didn't matter that it took computers years to catch up with the non 3D accelerated version of the game because the game genuinely enjoyed at least 5 or 6 years of serious popularity. With most of the stuff released these days it doesn't appeal for that long. The next 'big thing' is usually only 12 months away. I always find that by the time a game like Crysis is running silky smooth I'm not playing it any more and have moved to something newer. Consequently I end up loading up old games just to see how great they finally run 2 years down the line!

I have a machine full of top components. Water cooled, XE CPU and XE OC2 8800, the whole 9 yards yet I know I'm not going to appreciate dropping to dated screen resolutions just to get a wobbly 30 FPS out of this Crysis engine. You should be able to get 60FPS with decent resolution and settings when the game is released on top platforms. Otherwise what's the point of spending all that money?

In my opinion the realism factor takes a huge nose dive just dropping to 30 FPS let alone lower than that.

I would like to see something like Crysis released to hit 60FPS on a minimum res of say 1280 x 800 with at least 2 x AA, preferrably 4.

They can manage this sort of thing with consoles! And the games rock at release because of it! Why not PC's? I realise consoles all have the same spec but they could AT LEAST pitch the coding to smoke on the top PC hardware. How hard is that?

I just feel like we're always behind and never really catch up till it's too late.


By Screwballl on 11/2/2007 11:34:16 AM , Rating: 1
Feel free to pull the stick out of your rump and not base your judgement on numbers.
Like I said:
Remember, do NOT base this or any other game on framerates. 30fps on this game is very much playable compared to CS:S where 30fps is not playable.
Too many people see the numbers and it has the placebo effect: "Oh I only get 30 so it is not playable".. bullshit. Play the game and ignore the framerates until after you've completed it. Note the laggy or jumpy spots and check your framerates the next time you play through that same spot.

If the game is playable and looks good then stop your damn whining. Just because you spent $2000 on the latest video card and another $2000 on the system does not mean it should be able to run every single game ever made at 100fps including new ones that just hit the market.
According to your line of reasoning, that AthlonXP 3200+ Barton system with 256MB AGP 9800Pro that you spent $4000 on some years ago should be able to play Crysis at minimum 60 fps on high settings. That is not progress nor innovation. If games do not take full advantage of the latest hardware then there is no point wasting money when you can get a $500 Dell to play the latest games.
High end software requires high end hardware, if one fails to strain the other then someone will find something that does and then the next generation can handle the previous that much faster.

When HL2 was released, it strained the most popular AthlonXP and Athlon64 CPUs and GPUs. Yet nowadays a mid range system like mine (E6600, 2GB DDR2, X1950GT) can play HL2/CS:S at 120-200fps with all settings as high as they can go plus AA/AF.


By Locutus465 on 11/2/2007 5:36:04 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know, I'm playing 1024x768 on my system with medium settings to be perfectly honest I'm not wowed by the graphics... Though I'm still early in the game so who knows what will happen... I'm very sad that this is the best I can get with a GeForce 7800GT :(

I thought about upgrading to the 8800 serise, but that seemed to be a very expensive propisition... Perhaps I'll just go ahead and finally SLI my 7800's...


Video Cards
By AlvinCool on 11/1/2007 2:43:28 PM , Rating: 2
Man I wish I could look through those video cards in his trash can. I bet at least one of them is better than my AGP 6800GT!




RE: Video Cards
By boredg on 11/1/2007 2:46:00 PM , Rating: 2
Im pretty sure i have a trash can like that somewhere :S


RE: Video Cards
By Moishe on 11/1/2007 2:53:12 PM , Rating: 2
true... I wanna weep sometimes looking at the pile of expensive 3dfx cards I have laying around :)


RE: Video Cards
By Spivonious on 11/1/2007 3:09:15 PM , Rating: 1
But are they RoHS-compliant???? ;)


RE: Video Cards
By SunAngel on 11/1/2007 3:35:51 PM , Rating: 2
Doesn't matter. While driving through southside Chicago just toss them out the car window.


RE: Video Cards
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 11/1/2007 4:24:07 PM , Rating: 2
C'mon now. That's what Indiana is for.


RE: Video Cards
By darkpaw on 11/1/2007 3:34:31 PM , Rating: 2
I used to have a drawer like that, filled with Ti4200s, a few 9800s, until I built some systems for family members.

Scary to think how much money I spent on cards that ended up in that drawer when they were 2 years old.


2007?
By NicePants42 on 11/1/2007 4:22:15 PM , Rating: 2
Sure, Crysis is tough to render, and the comic is decently funny, but so far this year Crysis has been just about the only game that's challenged the 8800GTX.

I'd say that for the better part of 2007, PC gaming would be better illustrated by an 8800GTX sitting a the breakfast table pouring milk over a big bowl of Oblivion, Episode 1, Episode 2, FEAR, CS:S, et all, while the AMD 2900XT stands in the background banging its head against a wall.




RE: 2007?
By ZaethDekar on 11/1/2007 4:44:16 PM , Rating: 2
Now that would be a hilarious comic.


RE: 2007?
By P4blo on 11/2/2007 7:06:15 AM , Rating: 2
I dont want my card 'challenged'. I bought the 8800 because I've been practically guaranteed 60 FPS solid at decent to high resolutions in nearly all games.

If I wanted to have my card challenged I would have bought a Voodoo 2 off ebay.


RE: 2007?
By NicePants42 on 11/2/2007 9:24:02 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I bought the 8800 because I've been practically guaranteed 60 FPS solid at decent to high resolutions in nearly all games.


Wow, that's like, 3qps right there.


The comic is decent!
By MFK on 11/1/2007 6:01:06 PM , Rating: 2
Lol @ all the people taking the "comic" so seriously!

So, is the 8800GT enough for High @ 1024x768???
Do you guys think?




RE: The comic is decent!
By walk2k on 11/1/2007 6:31:11 PM , Rating: 2
Well it's going to bench somewhere between the GTS and GTX/Ultra.

I have an older CPU (X2 4400+) and new 8800GT EVGA "super clocked", when I push "auto detect" it set 800x600 with graphics on "medium". Bumping up the rez to panel 1280x1024 runing the GPU benchmark it's average around 45 fps. If that means anything to you.

I haven't tried it on High yet, but the difference between Medium and High is pretty large (and even larger between Ultra High but that requires DX10 which I don't have - yet).


These cartoons are not funny....
By MangoSRT8 on 11/2/2007 11:03:13 AM , Rating: 3
Seriously...who is drawing these stupid cartoons? They are not funny at all.




Credit is due
By timmiser on 11/1/2007 5:56:39 PM , Rating: 2
All this talk about the comic but nobody yet has given credit to the author. DT's own Rob Mach. Nice job and keep it up!!




7 Frames per second.
By powerincarnate on 11/1/2007 10:36:24 PM , Rating: 2
While that was a Joke, it isn't a joke for someone with a computer 3-4 years ago. Which sends us back to the console vs. PC argument. It's just so much easier to simply get a console and it's initial requirements, and not have to worry again for 5-6 years at LEAST. Crysis is coming out, and you have to make major accomadations. Do I play the game at a resolution not native to my LCD, Do I play with low settings and little to no physics and THUS negate the whole reason crysis is getting this attention, or do I go and upgrade my processor, which requires an updated Board since I may not have had a core 2 or quad core capable board, Or I may need to get that new motherboard because I had the latest APG graphic card, but now I need to go PCI express. Oh, and maybe I had DDR memory, but now I need recommended 2 GIGs of DDR 2 or 3 memory. And I said nothing about hard drive, or maybe even a better sound card, or a headset that might help with immersion.

With that said, Yes I do play consoles MORE but in the last month, and in the next few months, my focus will shift back to the pc like the old Unreal Tournament Deus Ex days of college. For me, I will get Crysis, and I will get UT3, and I've already gotten the Orage Box. 3 Major Major games that I just couldn't resist.

Speaking of Orange box since it came up. Team Fortress 2 is damn addicting. yes it has that graphical style, but I actually like it, I've seen to much of the realistic, WW2 army style, or the steroid Gears type of style and it's refreshing to see something different. Plus, so far, it seem like the players are incredibly balance. and coming from a Fighting game fan (virtua fighter 5), a game with balance and skill is my type of game. I could easily see myself playing the multiplayer TF2 game over the multiplayer crysis or Unreal. We'll see.

Anyways, My Specs.

Intel Core 2 E6600
nVidia Geforece 8800GTS 320
2 WD Raptor 74GB hard drive (soon to get a bigger one)
Auzen X-Meridian (best sounding sound card in the world. With the LM 4562 opamps in all 4 slots).
Logitech Z-5500 speakers
Windows Ultimate 64 and Windows XP 64 bit edition (one for each hard drive)
6 GBs of DDR 1066 RAM (yes you heard correctly. I had 2 GBs, but decided to upgrade so that RAM wouldn't be the issue for me when it comes to crysis.) IF i need to upgrade it won't be ram but would be with whatever serious step up graphic card that nVidia or AMD can come up with, or a major step up in CPU performance.




old
By goku on 11/2/2007 12:50:49 AM , Rating: 2
Well when your system is so dated (in gaming terms) seeing highend systems of today being raped by new games brings a grin to my face. Seeing these games lug on high settings on highend systems reminds me of when my "highend rig" first bogged down on a next gen game. (In my case it was Farcry & HL2)




Aging rig
By BruceLeet on 11/2/2007 4:53:21 AM , Rating: 2
800x600
512MB RAM
X300 128MB
P4 3.0GHz

15-20FPS, I know I dont get it either, Im below Min. Requirements yet I can play, I see C2D's, 2Gigs Memory, 7800s 7850s, 8800gts etc and I see 20-25FPS in other peoples posts, guess I should be thankful that I can even get a "feel" for this game (Crysis)




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