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Internet Binary Heroes: PC Gaming in 2007
Rob Mach (Blog) - November 1, 2007 1:47 PM
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New titles always try to push the limit of modern hardware, but did Crysis go too far?

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Whats with all the criticism?
By pauldovi on 11/1/2007 2:00:12 PM , Rating: 5
You know... you don't have to play Crysis at all Ultra High settings with 16x AA.....

At lower settings most gaming computers can play the game. The game still looks amazing at these lower settings.

Whats wrong with a game that will stretch hardware for the next few years?




RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Martimus on 11/1/2007 2:05:05 PM , Rating: 3
I agree. I played the Crysis Demo on my computer without even the slightest slow down, and it looked great on low-medium settings. To top it off, I have a 3 year old computer. I expected the worst when I downloaded the demo, but I have been rather impressed. The game scales very well, and seems pretty well optimized for lower settings.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By euclidean on 11/1/2007 2:14:59 PM , Rating: 1
GG for them waiting and optimizing the game instead of releasing when they originally planned. Smart decision on their part.

On a side note, avg of 50 fps on med settings 1280x1024 reso w/a 7800GT/2GB DDR2800/X2 4600+. Maybe I can stretch it out another 6-8 months before I upgrade then lol :|


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By walk2k on 11/1/2007 3:43:05 PM , Rating: 3
Did you get 50fps average from the benchmark? Because I had a 4400+ with 7800GT and certainly did NOT get 50fps average on "medium" settings.

More like 25fps average.

I just upgraded to a 8800GT and on "medium" settings at 1280x1024 I get 45fps average (high 64, low 25).

In case you didn't know, the benchmark is in the game folder, there's two .BAT files there, one for GPU and one for CPU. Run that and get back to us.....


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By darkpaw on 11/1/2007 4:01:44 PM , Rating: 3
Yah, I highly doubt that 50fps mark too. I was pulling 20-30ish at 1280 medium settings measured by fraps with 7800GT in SLI.

I need to try out the benchmarks you mentioned and see what those results are.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By therealnickdanger on 11/1/2007 5:05:11 PM , Rating: 2
Here's the setup I ran with and maxed at 65fps and had minimal dips:

Vista 32-bit
E6300
7950GT
2GB DDR2-800

800x600, no AA/AF, mixture of low, medium, high settings (mostly low).

It looked fantastic even with such "low" settings.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Scrogneugneu on 11/1/2007 7:28:15 PM , Rating: 2
800x600?

I seriously doubt I'll ever play any (recent/future) game at that resolution.


By therealnickdanger on 11/2/2007 12:29:08 AM , Rating: 2
Well... enjoy not playing it. :P

I can go up to 1280x960 with everything "low" and stay above 30fps, but I'd rather it be a lot smoother.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By darkpaw on 11/1/2007 8:44:23 PM , Rating: 2
X2-3800
2x7800GT
4GB PC3200
Vista 64

800x600 all at medium ran the built in benchmarks 3 times each got this for my averages:

CPU: 15.51, 18.46, 19.12
GPU: 18.85, 19.98, 20.01

Geez that is some crummy performance at such a low resolution.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By leexgx on 11/4/2007 10:17:19 PM , Rating: 2
how to run the benchmarks

seems an littel poor performace

all med @ 1024x768 (Default install settings not changed the settings)

my game performace is fine

5000+ X2 Black edition @ 3.2ghz
XP 32
4gb ram
8800 GTX (Single)

SLI does not work with it yet i guess as them scores seems poor?


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Samus on 11/1/2007 6:15:36 PM , Rating: 2
Yea, I didn't have a problem playing it with all the eye candy, but then again not everyone has an 8800, either.

My friend with a 7900GS, which plays everything else (Battlefield 2142, HL2, etc) just awesome, couldn't break 30FPS in Crysis even at 1024x768 with a lot of detail down.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Polynikes on 11/1/2007 11:45:02 PM , Rating: 1
I beg to differ. Crysis doesn't scale well at all. The Source engine, now that, that scales well. My rig consists of:

x6800 watercooled and OC'd quite a bit
2GB DDR2-1066 RAM
x1950XTX/Crossfire card
2 Raptors in RAID0

And I was averaging 20 to 25 FPS with all settings set to Medium at 1680x1050. In HL2: Episode 2, with ALL the settings fully maxed, I was getting framerates of 120+, and I think the Source engine still looks really good.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By jkostans on 11/2/2007 8:12:48 AM , Rating: 2
I have a rig capable of playing farcry with most settings at high and it looks great. Then I load crysis with everything at low to get a comaprable framerate and it looks on par with Tribes. So no it doesn't scale well at all.

Unfortunately this is how progress is made with the latest hardware. The leap in this last generation of cards was huge, as was the one before that, and the one before that. We as consumers demand this, but then complain when the performance difference in new generations of software is comparable. Crysis is good for the industry, as it raises the bar. I won't be playing it because the low settings really detract from the gameplay, but when I do build a new rig this will be the first thing I try out (along with oblivion again just to see what it's like maxed at 60fps).


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Noya on 11/2/2007 12:26:01 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. Jumping from FarCry, FEAR, CoD2 and Bioshock on high settings to Crysis on low @ 800x600 is disappointing, especialy when even the $500 top dog GTX won't even max it...so much for 1080p gaming (unless you're loaded or it's your main hobby).


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By MPE on 11/1/2007 2:20:32 PM , Rating: 2
Because hard core requirements, in my opinion, is an artificial way of extending the life span of a game. For all intent and purpose Crysis is just another FPS. But since most FPS don't really introduce new things to gameplay (aka actual new content and ideas) hard-core graphics is another way from unimaginative programmers to justify their pay checks. I suggest firing some of the graphics guys and hiring more writers actual designers.

TF2 with its humble requirements would probably outlast Crysis' shelf life.

...from a guy with hard-core setup (8800 GTX SLI, 3 GB of RAM, etc, etc).

.02


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Hakuryu on 11/1/2007 2:39:50 PM , Rating: 4
I guess the destructible enviroments, huge open areas (much bigger than most other games), and the complicated team AI aren't enough to make this more than just another FPS for you?

I'd actually put that tag on the largely console/casual gamer game TF2. Look at how much was nerfed from the original like the ultra-fun grenade types.

I prefer gameplay over graphics, but Crysis looks like one game that has both.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By RandomFool on 11/1/2007 2:52:23 PM , Rating: 2
I don't miss grenades in TF2, TF2 is way better than many of the "look how much shit and realism we can put on screen at once" FPSs.

Crysis I know nothing about but there's nothing in that list that hasn't been done by other games in the past. Although Crysis probably does them better the others.


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By omnicronx on 11/1/2007 3:41:35 PM , Rating: 2
Please.. nobody compare ANYTHING to TF2, the game was suppose to be released 8 years ago..


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 11/1/2007 4:23:59 PM , Rating: 5
I will compare TF2 to Duke Nukem Forever.....


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By Future145 on 11/1/2007 4:27:30 PM , Rating: 2
but TF2 is out tho and Forver is still being "developed"


RE: Whats with all the criticism?
By omnicronx on 11/1/2007 5:49:00 PM , Rating: 2
When i say 8 years, I am not over exadurating. The game was suppose to be released almost 8 years ago, and had been in 'development' for longer. It must hold the record for the longest start to finish game ever. I remember looking forward to TF2 back in the TFC days, and that was what.. 1999? Delay after delay turned into me not caring. Funny thing is the original game was suppose to be on a modified halflife 1 engine. I wonder how many engines it took to reach this point.