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  (Source: Associated Press/Paul Sakuma)
Bill Watkins resigns from his post

Bill Watkins should be a familiar face to regular DailyTech readers. Watkins has served as CEO of Seagate since 2004 and is known for his rather abrupt tone when it comes to talking about technology.

Watkins made headlines in late 2006 for his comments on the HDD industry. "Let's face it, we're not changing the world," said Watkins in December, 2006. "We're building a product that helps people buy more crap - and watch porn."

Watkins was also initially skeptical of solid state drives (SSDs) in the notebook sector. "Realistically, I just don’t see the flash notebook sell. We just don’t see the proposition," added Watkins in March 2008. Seagate would later go on to sue SSD manufacturers for patent infringement.

It now appears that Watkins' time as Seagate CEO is now coming to an end. Watkins is resigning from his post and is handing his title over to Seagate Chairman Stephen Luczo.

It is a surprising move and "nobody seemed to see it coming," said Robert W. Baird & Co's Jayson Noland. "These are challenging times for lots of companies," Noland continued. "When times get tough, it can cause a lot of emotion. It's just a difficult environment for everybody."

Lydia M. Marshall, the company board's lead director, stated, "We are fortunate to have a leader of Steve’s vision and experience. Steve’s significant understanding of Seagate’s business and technology, and the customer and employee relationships that he built over his 15 year career at Seagate make Steve the ideal person to lead our Company at this time."

For his part, Luczo added, "I want to take this opportunity to thank Bill Watkins for his commitment to Seagate. Since first joining Seagate more than 12 years ago, Bill has made many significant contributions to our Company through his dedication, knowledge and leadership."

Luczo bring 15 years of experience at Seagate to the table in his position as CEO. He will have to steer the company through these difficult economic times and hopefully get the company onboard with the booming SSD market.



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Not enough space
By dj LiTh on 1/13/2009 12:15:52 PM , Rating: 5
Not enough space for all that pr0n to hold...maybe the new guy can make our wet dreams come true.




RE: Not enough space
By Murloc on 1/13/2009 12:24:03 PM , Rating: 2
the biggest hd ever with all the porn in the world in it.


RE: Not enough space
By Gul Westfale on 1/13/2009 12:47:09 PM , Rating: 5
we already have that, it's called the internet.

with high quality streaming larger HDDs seem to become less important... of course games still take a lot of space (and will continue to do so), but i have about 410GB across two drives now and don't feel the need to upgrade anytime soon.


RE: Not enough space
By Chocobollz on 1/14/2009 2:08:28 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I believe so too. And don't forget, the larger your harddrive is, the more it will make you cry when it died with your data in it. Believe me, I know. My 200 GBs harddrive just died a week ago with all the data in it. I think I've learned my lesson now, don't forget to make periodic backups! ~_~ And the problem with a big harddrive is, the bigger the harddrive, then the more likely you'll be too lazy to backup your data ~_~ so you should refrain yourselves from the temptation to buy a bigger harddrive. Afterall, it will do nothing for you, except that you could store more p0rns :p


RE: Not enough space
By MrPoletski on 1/15/2009 9:15:53 AM , Rating: 2
It's not just capacity, it's speed.

Get yerself raided up :)

seeing your computer run on a raid 10 array of 16 velociraptor drives will change your mind about upgrading your HDD;)

SSD's are good for raid too.

RAID stands for Really Awesomely Incredible Drive all you need to do is to arrange into a redundant array, your independant disks.


RE: Not enough space
By MrBlastman on 1/13/2009 3:40:07 PM , Rating: 3
Look at it this way - he'll have more time than ever to watch pr0n! Do you think Seagate will give him some Hard Drives as part of his exit package? They might come in (hand)y. ;)


RE: Not enough space
By amanojaku on 1/13/2009 4:19:08 PM , Rating: 5
There are two certainties in life: death and capacity shortage. There will never be a hard drive large enough for pr0n. NEVER. Do not underestimate the power of the pervert side, young padawan.


RE: Not enough space
By UNHchabo on 1/13/2009 4:37:04 PM , Rating: 3
RE: Not enough space
By Gul Westfale on 1/13/2009 5:34:09 PM , Rating: 2
i'm not underestimating it at all, but with many many sites now hosting clips and even full DVDs for (free) streaming... what's the point of DLing it all?


RE: Not enough space
By Imaginer on 1/13/2009 6:11:34 PM , Rating: 2
For those long, cold internet-less nights?


RE: Not enough space
By UNHchabo on 1/13/2009 6:16:10 PM , Rating: 5
Currency, when society collapses.

http://xkcd.com/512/


RE: Not enough space
By akosixiv on 1/14/2009 3:01:59 AM , Rating: 2
1. personal collection
2. for watching while travelling
3. sharing with others
4. internet came down, you are still up. =)

5. imagine watching this hot streaming movie with your partner, then somebody in your network decides to pump up his download and queues up 10 different torrents, 4 http downloads, 5 music files, etc., you stream is now going to be a trickle.. stuttering, not enough cached, waiting for it to finish loading. will kinda make you wish you just have it saved.

the list goes on and on.. seagate's ceo was right with his statement. to help people watch more porn.


SSD handicap
By MikeMurphy on 1/13/2009 12:53:24 PM , Rating: 2
So in March 2008 this guy couldn't envision that SSDs are the future? Its a technology that is still somewhat in its infancy that is obviously the way of the future.

(PS. I'm looking forward to the new 7200.12 lineup of 500GB platters, but only because the SSDs are still too expensive!)




RE: SSD handicap
By Schrag4 on 1/13/2009 2:47:49 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe Bill meant that SSDs, in their current form, aren't the future. I'm sure if some other solid state technology was developed/discovered next month that was faster, more reliable, and cheaper than even today's mechanical drives, then yes, Bill would probably agree that the NEW technology might be the way of the future (assuming something NEWER doesn't come out the month after that).

I for one don't believe that SSDs, in their CURRENT form are the future. The tech has been around too long for me to believe that prices could come down to affordable levels. I know they've gotten cheaper, but mechanical drives have gotten cheaper with them!

Show me a drive with the same capacity, performance and longevity at a 20%-30% premium in price and I'll pay it. I'm sorry, I just can't stomach the 1700% premium for today's SSDs. Oh, and I can't predict that another technology won't be developed by the time the price finally does come down to the 30% premium I said I'd pay. Anyone want to predict what month and year a 1 TB SSD will cost a mere 30% more than a 1 TB mechanical drive? (for added fun, also predict what capacity 100 bucks will get you with the mechanical drive at that time, for instance 100 bucks buys you 1 TB today)


RE: SSD handicap
By MikeMurphy on 1/13/2009 3:12:07 PM , Rating: 2
My only real point is that I suspect solid state storage devices technology will progress faster than ye olde mechanical hard drive.

The mechanical hard drive is great, but its technological progress has only been to improve a fundamentally mediocre design (by today's standard).


RE: SSD handicap
By therealnickdanger on 1/13/2009 3:13:39 PM , Rating: 2
That's like looking at the first wheel (probably a lumpy oval) and saying its not the future. IMO, Seagate was caught with its pants down and is now moving in the right direction.


RE: SSD handicap
By Schrag4 on 1/13/2009 3:41:59 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but that's exactly my point. Yes, the wheel was obviously the future, but the lumpy-oval-wheel was not. Perhaps what Bill meant was, "CURRENT SSD technology will NEVER be cheap enough to become mainstream, but some NEWER/undiscovered/undeveloped SSD technology WILL BE." If that's what he meant, I agree with him.

I should point out that I know that's not what he said. What he said was that "SSD", which is a very sweeping generalization meaning any storage device with no moving parts, are not the way of the future. That I disagree with. However, if what he did mean was that current tech is not worth investing in, I'd have to say he might be right. How many million (or billions) have been/will be dumped into developing current SSD tech? Do these companies really think something better AND cheaper will not come along before they make enough sales to pay off the research? I for one would call current SSDs a pretty big gamble.


RE: SSD handicap
By JAB on 1/13/2009 11:26:29 PM , Rating: 2
At the same time he was quoted that he expected SSD to take off.
The comments were in large part to avoid cannibalization of there core business. Start up tech can get very expensive to sell with diving prices. Long term you cant ignore the SSD but that is a different issue. Making competitive SSD at a good price just more lead time without a real change in the company is not going to change that.


RE: SSD handicap
By saiga6360 on 1/13/2009 9:25:03 PM , Rating: 2
Errr, what else would he mean by it? Maybe if had psychic powers...


RE: SSD handicap
By Oregonian2 on 1/13/2009 10:03:11 PM , Rating: 2
I think he is being misquoted or misremembered. He was talking in the short term, not about the long future. His comments were quite correct for the time he spoke it (and still not fully incorrect now that regular 1-Terabyte hard drives go for about $100 retail in onesies). I think one would probably find that even now most drives aren't SSD's.


RE: SSD handicap
By fic2 on 1/13/2009 10:31:06 PM , Rating: 3
Captain Obvious:
quote:
I think one would probably find that even now most drives aren't SSD's.


Really? You mean that a technology that has been out for over 40 years hasn't completely been replaced by one that was introduced last year?

How about let's revisit this in 5 years and talk.


RE: SSD handicap
By Oregonian2 on 1/14/2009 5:18:45 PM , Rating: 2
I see you picked up on my sarcasm. Those who pick on the quote seem to act as if SSD's have already proven themselves by having taken over the market.


Dumb just Dumb.
By Spectator on 1/13/2009 2:43:24 PM , Rating: 2
You have to be either arrogant or self obsessed to make quotes like that in the first place.

I find it quite sad that single individuals in positions of power can be so distracted with all thier own sht, they dont even think before they comment.

Im not religeous(spelling) some quote from something. but I remember the logic.
(responsibility is all about the people you look after.(washing others feet or something). NOT your individual gratification).

Im sure others can elaborate better than I.




RE: Dumb just Dumb.
By CrystalBay on 1/13/2009 2:52:02 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah , It sure isn't same without Al Shugart manning the helm.:(


RE: Dumb just Dumb.
By saiga6360 on 1/13/2009 6:42:01 PM , Rating: 2
Or, just realistic.

He's not the type to sugarcoat his words, which I respect. In what way does that make him 'distracted'? Would you prefer someone who would rather shove you the usual corporate bullcrap?


RE: Dumb just Dumb.
By MrBlastman on 1/14/2009 10:02:28 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly.

I have a lot of respect for a guy like Watkins. He has a big pair and he's more than willing to let them go clank when telling people the real truth. Why smooth it out when you can be blunt, honest and to the point.

It gets the idea across more clearly without all the hullabaloo and sidestepping. When he says something, what is there not to understand?

I'm kinda teary eyed seeing him be replaced. Hopefully his talents can be put to use somewhere else.


quotes
By Ben on 1/13/2009 1:12:44 PM , Rating: 2
Another quote I liked from Bill, "Today's technology is tomorrow's trash".




RE: quotes
By bryanW1995 on 1/13/2009 1:59:20 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe they could come out with ipod pequeno: it holds 8 million songs, and every picture ever taken.


RE: quotes
By aebiv on 1/13/2009 4:14:01 PM , Rating: 2
Excellent quote!


10,000 RPM
By GaryJohnson on 1/13/2009 8:09:09 PM , Rating: 2
Still waiting for Seagate to put out a 10k (or hey, why not 15k) RPM SATA drive to compete with the velociraptor.




RE: 10,000 RPM
By jonmcc33 on 1/14/2009 8:40:58 AM , Rating: 2
They already do, Seagate Cheetah drives.

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/servers/...


RE: 10,000 RPM
By GaryJohnson on 1/25/2009 9:33:02 AM , Rating: 2
Those are SAS drives, not SATA.


By drunkenmastermind on 1/13/2009 6:36:12 PM , Rating: 4
I use to have all Seagates but found them to be too hot and noisy. Now I'm sitting on 5.5Tb across 8 Western Digital drives, and porn takes up very little of that. I find it funny how every post with some thumb of sexy girls generates a wave of comments from you all.
You all need to get out more!...so do I :)




sad world
By otispunkmeyer on 1/13/2009 7:09:06 PM , Rating: 2
we live in a sad world if a CEO who bluntly speaks the truth gets headline news.

he was right, HDD's arent changing the world and they do just allow us to hoarde more rubbish programs, music, movies and most importantly posses a health selection of videos known as the "wank bank"




RE: sad world
By drunkenmastermind on 1/13/2009 7:33:47 PM , Rating: 2
What do they expect people to do with 4Mb/sec?


Numerous Seagate Drives Fail - Bad Firmware.
By teckytech9 on 1/13/2009 7:59:54 PM , Rating: 2
Its no surprise that Seagate is changing their leadership in the midst of numerous HD failures in 1.5TB, 1.0TB and 500GB Barracuda models.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/9618-unusual-amount-...

The customer reviews at newegg are also worth reading. Especially the person who set up a Raid array of 5 disks, only to have them all fail prematurely, and replace them out with Western Digitals.

Even after flashing the right firmware, there is no guarantee that the drives will last. Shame on Seagate for having their customers go through this unpleasant fiasco (overheating and clicking drives).




By fic2 on 1/13/2009 10:34:34 PM , Rating: 2
I can't believe they won't even acknowledge the problem. I am going to ask a friend whose husband works for Seagate if he knows anything about it. Maybe he can patch my still in the box drive.


Arm Wrestling
By Lord 666 on 1/13/2009 12:12:55 PM , Rating: 1
Looks like Bill could actually be competitive with Arnold in those pics.




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