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Nice clean design
The company says its a world's first

BenQ announced this week that it has released the world's first HDMI compliant computer LCD monitor. The display is called t he FP241W and is a 24-inch wide-screen LCD. The new screen sports a maximum resolution of 1920x1200, which actually makes pixel's look slightly larger than usual. Most 1920x1200 LCDs top out at 23-inches, including for example Apple's 23-inch Cinema Display.

What makes this display most interesting however is that not only does it include DVI-D, D-Sub15, Composite, Component and S-Video inputs, it includes more than one HDMI input as well. The HDMI input is fully HDCP compatible and will accept signals up to a full 1080p (1920x1080) resolution.

Other specifications are equally impressive. Response time is rated at a fast 6ms gray-to-gray. Brightness is rated at 300cd/m2 and the screen has a contrast ratio of 800:1, which is fairly good. The screen also supports picture-in-picture, three USB ports, and pivot and height adjustments.

The MSRP for the FP241W when it is released will be around $900.


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How does it compare to Dells 24"?
By Dev17 on 6/7/2006 6:13:06 PM , Rating: 2
Price? Dells is priced very competively, is there anything to suggest that this won't be in the same price bracket.

Quality? Speed and contrast and refresh don't give the whole picture. No pun intended.

Problems? To early to tell but how have Benqs previous attempts fared with quality monitors?

I will have to decide between this one and Dell 24" Widescreen from the looks of things.




RE: How does it compare to Dells 24"?
By deeznuts on 6/7/2006 6:20:14 PM , Rating: 2
Judging from the 20.1" widescreens, BenQ starts off roughly around the price of dells, and then drops off afterwards.


By cochy on 6/7/2006 6:42:31 PM , Rating: 2
Now all Dell needs to do is add HDMI on their 30'' XHD monster and I'm on board. Thanks to BenQ, looks like this may happen sooner rather than later.


By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/7/2006 7:26:33 PM , Rating: 2
We just got confirmation that it is going to be around $900


dell was first 24" with hdcp
By Cunthor01 on 6/8/2006 4:07:59 AM , Rating: 2
Yep, dell came out about a month ago with 2407 here in NZ (and Australasia), and it has hdcp. Don't know where benq got their info from...


RE: Quality?
By Beorn on 6/10/2006 4:10:09 PM , Rating: 2
As a current BenQ LCD owner (FP767), I feel like I can comment on their overall quality.
I've had this monitor for ~28 months, and one of my friends bought one a few months later. I haven't had a single problem with build quality, case durability, panel life...
IMO the best way to tell what a companies customer service, and warrenty response times are is to never have to use them!
I will deffinately buy another BenQ monitor and continuously recommend them to others.


HD monitor?
By shabby on 6/7/2006 5:58:48 PM , Rating: 2
Woop deedoo, an hd monitor. Havent they been hd for years?




RE: HD monitor?
By Keeir on 6/7/2006 6:35:08 PM , Rating: 2
No... they (BenQ) are saying its the first "fully" HD compliant monitor

Mostly because it uses HDMI-HDCP, which is the standard for HD-DVD/Blu Ray/etc

Dailytech is more correct in that this is the first 24" screen with HDMI since there have been other DVI-HDCP 24" screens and other "monitor" HDMI displays (mostly in the 37-42" range)


RE: HD monitor?
By cochy on 6/7/2006 6:44:02 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm ya since the late 80s I think :P


HD when... how, where??
By Fnoob on 6/7/2006 9:29:51 PM , Rating: 2
Silly me to think that the 2405 would do 1080p. Just because of potential royalties infringement it wont now? ... Ug.

Must I buy a HDMI just to do HD now, or will they change the standard required once I scrape together the required change?

I'm amazed that the PC (cannot now?) exceed the HD quality of a home HDTV/cable. The transitor count alone should make it so much better, um; somehow.

Someone please inform my jaded, tired-of-surfing-for-HD ass where the true "Home Theatre" quality HD-on-PC solution is right now..? I'd really love to find it. The 24-30" 2-6ms LCD, on a desktop, in your face, full 1080p HD video experience - now please ready that gigapixel panel by Christmas.... oh, and the processing power to run them would kinda be nice too, thanks.






RE: HD when... how, where??
By kmmatney on 6/7/2006 10:44:20 PM , Rating: 2
It's an 8bit panel. Here are the specs:

http://www.benq.com/products/LCD/?product=812&page...

The viewing angle means its not a TN display (BenQ does make 8-bit TN LCDs), so its probably an SVA/MVA panel.


RE: HD when... how, where??
By abhaxus on 6/8/2006 3:41:42 PM , Rating: 2
Umm... the 2405 DOES do 1080p. The native resolution is 1920x1200 which is capable of displaying 1080p in 16:9 widescreen.

If you mean that it doesn't support HDCP, the movie studios have said in the last few weeks that they will not support Image Constraint Token until closer to 2010. So your monitor purchase is safe.


Color quality/response time
By Reflex on 6/7/2006 7:10:23 PM , Rating: 2
I was under the impression that any monitor claiming lower than 16ms response time was doing so by trimming back the color pallette(6bit instead of 8bit controllers). Is that still the case?




RE: Color quality/response time
By Wahsapa on 6/7/2006 8:08:41 PM , Rating: 2
thats a good question that the article missed. how many colors can this thing do?


Dell's are 24"
By Suomynona on 6/7/2006 9:10:15 PM , Rating: 2
Aren't both the Dell 2405 and 2407 1920x1200 and 24"?




RE: Dell's are 24"
By Fnoob on 6/7/2006 9:28:22 PM , Rating: 2
yes


Not that good
By RickyG512 on 6/8/2006 5:15:36 AM , Rating: 2
i still think it sucks coz when on 1080p it wont be native resoloution so picture quality wont be perfect as this monitor has 1200 pixels verticaly

also its no 16:9, its 16:10 so even watching a fill 16:9 widescreen movie u still get a thick black like at the top and bottom

there are so many LCD TV's that suck too like the toshiba 42" and 47" full HDTV Tv's and acer 37" lcd tv, all 3 of them are 1920x1080 but all of them dont support 1080p but atleast they are 16:9 so you dont the get thick black bars at the top and dottom

but even thou the "perfect" LCD TV doesnt exist, this makes it the best there is now so if u need a LCD monitor now, buy this or wait for a proper one that is 16:9 and that supports 1080p which has a native of 1920x1080 with HDMI and not DVI-HDCP

and plus on the beng website it says 16ms responce time and 6ms gray to gray




RE: Not that good
By JNo on 6/8/2006 8:32:00 AM , Rating: 2
True it's 16:10, just is as my Dell 2405, but that fits computer application (eg 1600x1200) well and they don't need to be as 'widescreen' as cinema applicatioins. So when I watch a 16:9 movie, it has relatively *thin*, not thick, black bars bottom and top (big deal). In theory, with digital displays, the fact that the width limitation is 1920 in both cases means that the 1920x1080 source should map pixel to pixel. Whether it does in reality, I cannot say (haven't had time to count those black pixels :)

Also, gray-to-gray is more important anyway as that's what 99% of all pixel colour transitions are (how many films have shots with pixels going from pure black to pure white (or vice versa) instantaneously?

Have to agree though that *perfect* hi def tvs/monitors aren't out there yet...


No flak
By andymerrett on 6/8/2006 8:19:21 AM , Rating: 2
At least you don't appear to have got the flak I did for daring to publish ( http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2006/06/benq_unveil_wor.html ) this without qualification. Damn, hindsight.




RE: No flak
By Trisped on 6/8/2006 1:04:28 PM , Rating: 2
We complain here about stuff like that too, but we also don't have stupid people that get all over blown over it. DailyTech usually does a good job of presenting the facts, so we complain but keep coming back.

It is too bad that one person had to make such a stink on your site, I keep wanting to post things like "stupi <insert name>" but because he calls himself "Mexican" (thats his name) it doesn't sound very good.


LOL
By One43637 on 6/7/2006 5:18:57 PM , Rating: 2
and here i was just saying that i wanted a bigger LCD, but was waiting for one that supported HDMI. you guys are making it hard to save some cash.

http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/92096-b...




Finally!
By bob661 on 6/7/2006 5:48:51 PM , Rating: 2
Now we'll just have to wait until the other mani's jump into the pond.




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