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Model V20 Centrifuge
Dances With Oil!

The ongoing leak of crude oil into the Gulf of Mexico has reached epic proportions and shows no signs of stopping. All attempts to stop the leak of crude oil into the Gulf have failed thus far leaving the only option for the time being to clean the oil from the waters of the Gulf as quickly as possible.

Actor Kevin Costner came forward not long ago with a machine that his company -- Ocean Therapy Solutions (OTS) - has developed with bold claims that the machine could clean up the massive and ever increasing oil spill floating in the Gulf. The machine is a high-tech centrifuge that is offered in several different sizes with the largest of the machines capable of cleaning crude oil from water at a rate of hundreds of gallons per minute. The centrifuge promises to leave the water 99% clean of crude oil.

BP is reaching for any lifeline to help stop the growing catastrophe and reportedly took one of the machines to test. The initial test failed due to dispersal agents added to the crude oil transforming it into a peanut butter consistency that the machines could not work with. OTS adjusted the machines to work with the thickened consistency and they now reportedly work as described.

BP COO Doug Suttles said, "We were confident the technology would work but we needed to test it at the extremes. We've done that and are excited by the results. We are very pleased with the results and today we have placed a significant order with OTS and will be working with them to rapidly manufacture and deploy 32 of their machines."

Costner says that over the last 15 years he has invested $20 million of his own money into the company to develop the centrifuge machines. Costner says that he was inspired to start the development of the machines after the Exxon Valdez hit a reef in Alaska in 1989 dumping 11 million gallons of crude into Prince William Sound. 
ABC News reports that depending on the water to oil ratio the centrifuge machines can extract as much as 2,000 barrels of oil per day from the gulf.

OTS CEO John Houghtaling said, "The machines are basically sophisticated centrifuge devices that can handle a huge volume of water and separate at unprecedented rates. They were developed from older centrifuge technology. Normal centrifuge machines are very slow and sensitive to different ratios of oil to water mixtures at intake."

Costner acknowledged that BP has ordered 32 of the oil separating machines. He also claims that that number of machines could mitigate much of the damage done in the waters of the gulf.

He said, "It's not too late … That oil's going to keep coming towards those people. That well has not stopped. So we have to be out at the source, sucking it up … I mean, we have to treat it a little bit like war. We mustered logistically everything we had to get the beaches of Normandy. We have to muster everything we can to keep it from hitting our beaches."



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Kudos to Costner
By Smilin on 6/17/2010 1:23:03 PM , Rating: 5
I wish oil companies and agencies had listened to him and bought these years ago.

Lots of celebrities have "causes" and it's refreshing to see the real deal from time to time. This won't solve the whole problem but it will make an impact.

Now if we just had one of these for every one of those thousands of boats out there we might actually make a dent.




RE: Kudos to Costner
By hughlle on 6/17/2010 1:27:03 PM , Rating: 5
it'll be interesting to see how effective they are.

either way though, as you say, fair play to Costner for investing so much in something he feels strongly about.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By FITCamaro on 6/17/2010 11:03:54 PM , Rating: 5
I'm just amazed at someone from hollywood doing something more useful than giving idiots something to gossip about.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By therealnickdanger on 6/18/2010 2:20:29 PM , Rating: 2
A man of action is a man or character. My favorite quote for daily living from my favorite author centuries ago:

"Action is eloquence, and the eyes of the ignorant more learned than the ears."


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Cypherdude1 on 6/19/2010 2:09:50 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I wish oil companies and agencies had listened to him and bought these years ago.
That's 20/20 hindsight.

On a positive note, I wonder how long it will take to deploy these machines for actual use. Are they already made and ready for use or are they still in the manufacturing process? How many machines are standing by ready for use, 1, 2, 10? Are they going to make bigger models now? How long will deployment for actual use take, 1, 2, ..., 8 weeks?


RE: Kudos to Costner
By jdsal on 6/20/2010 11:46:07 PM , Rating: 3
I second this motion; Costner has finally find something he's good at.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By codecore on 6/22/2010 2:25:34 PM , Rating: 2
In order to honor Costner, I will be hosting a Costner film festival and show good Costner films. "No Way Out", "Bull Durham", and "Mr. Brooks". Are there any other "good" Costner films?


RE: Kudos to Costner
By erple2 on 6/22/2010 6:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
Silverado.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Hiawa23 on 6/17/2010 2:05:56 PM , Rating: 3
pretty scary that a company with the resources of BP, wouldn't own machines like this already & have them ready to go if there was some sort of spill. I thought these oil companies were the experts but I guess I along with alot of people have learned othewise since this disaster. They are smart enough to get it out of the ground, but........


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Obujuwami on 6/17/2010 2:23:27 PM , Rating: 5
BP is in business to make money, not shave the whales. If they wanted to have a great PR event, then they would have bought a number of devices and could have started using them in the oceans. As it stands they are using them to save their hides.

Hopefully this will do 2 things:

1) Serve as an example of what NOT to do.
2) Further the technology of cleaning water without chemicals.

I also agree that kudos for Costner should be given.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Creig on 6/17/2010 3:18:28 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
BP is in business to make money, not shave the whales.

I couldn't agree more. Can you imagine how long it would take to shave just ONE whale, let alone all of them? And then we'd have all that whale hair washing up on beaches, grossing everybody out... YUCK!


RE: Kudos to Costner
By BladeVenom on 6/18/2010 10:04:36 AM , Rating: 5
Shave beavers not whales!


RE: Kudos to Costner
By snakeInTheGrass on 6/18/2010 9:46:36 PM , Rating: 3
Eat a beaver, save a tree!


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Hiawa23 on 6/17/2010 3:31:40 PM , Rating: 5
BP is in business to make money, not shave the whales.

I don't know any bunsiness in business to do anything else but make money. I run one myself so not sure why you would even need to mention that, kind of goes without saying. Tell that to those who are out of jobs or who are affected by the spill or those 11 who died.

I think everyone knows what they are in business for, but that doesn't mean you don't take safety precautions, or have some plans & products available if the worst case scenario happens.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By twhittet on 6/17/10, Rating: -1
RE: Kudos to Costner
By Hiawa23 on 6/17/2010 7:20:09 PM , Rating: 4
I know quite a few businesses in business to not make $ - they are called non-profits.

Come on, you knew what I meant. Of course non profits. Goes without saying..


RE: Kudos to Costner
By tastyratz on 6/20/2010 10:10:02 PM , Rating: 2
Even if it was "non profit" they would still need safety precautions. You don't see companies intentionally neglecting osha in the way of saving money generally... so why wouldn't they be expected to have equipment and procedures in place in case of emergency?

The thing that pisses me off the most is that through government regulation and oversight these sorts of precautions have not been MANDATORY .
If you ask me they should be able to prove they can handle an accident before they even are allowed to start drilling.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Nik00117 on 6/18/2010 5:35:04 AM , Rating: 4
I run my business as well, and sometimes you have to cut profits for pre-cautions. Now I operate for a profit, as larger of a profit as SAFELY possible.

Being greedy doesn't help.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By knutjb on 6/19/2010 3:03:49 PM , Rating: 3
Capitalism and greed are two different things. The two are use interchangeably by those wanting government to do everything. See how far that got us.

Costner put a lot of his own money into an idea with reasonable foresight that an oil spill would happen again. This is true capitalism that is doing the right thing with a desire for return on investment.

Being a Capitalist does not make you a greedy SOB. Greed is omnipresent in all forms of government. Ssimply look how the Communist block countries ran, there were plenty of have-nots and few haves. If you weren't a Party Member you were a have-not. Few were Party Members.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By mikefarinha on 6/17/2010 4:47:44 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
BP is in business to make money, not shave the whales.


I certainly understand that shaving whales would not be a very profitable venture.

Also, could you please enlighten me as to the businesses that don't have the goal of making money? I'd very much like to steer clear of investing in them.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By YashBudini on 6/17/2010 8:56:04 PM , Rating: 2
"BP is in business to make money,"

So was Enron, Al Capone, drug dealers, etc. It's suppose to be a free economy, not a free-for-all economy. It's easy to make a buck by not giving a flying fornication about anything except the money.

By the way you also make money when you manage not to be sued into possible oblivion. Not to worry, the plutarchy won't let that happen.

Not many students here have taken professional ethics classes, have they?


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Performance Fanboi on 6/17/2010 2:24:31 PM , Rating: 3
They're good at getting oil out of the ground and getting money in their pockets - anything over and above that is done because they are forced to do it. As much as I don't like excess government and over-regulation I think laws should be in place that require companies like BP maintain a certain level of readiness to deal with leaks/spills. Teams trained and equipped for first response spill control and long term cleanup should be required and although this would seem to be an obvious fact they are not going to do it unless they are forced to.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By AEvangel on 6/17/2010 2:53:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
pretty scary that a company with the resources of BP, wouldn't own machines like this already & have them ready to go if there was some sort of spill. I thought these oil companies were the experts but I guess I along with alot of people have learned othewise since this disaster. They are smart enough to get it out of the ground, but........


The same could be said for the Federal Govt which are the ones truly responsible for this disaster. Keep in mind before you dismiss my statement that it was the Federal Govt under Bush that told BP and the State of Louisiana, NO they could not drill this well in water no deeper then 500 feet, also it was the Govt that limited BP liability with the $75 million liability cap under Clinton administration with a Republican House and Senate.

So really with the Federal Govt taking control of everything is the real problem here, if they had left to the state level where it belongs then this issue would not be as big a problem or BP would have been properly prepared since they would not have the limited liability they have now.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Spuke on 6/17/2010 3:30:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
also it was the Govt that limited BP liability with the $75 million liability cap under Clinton administration with a Republican House and Senate.
As always, there's more to the story. I had NO idea of this cap. NO ONE has mentioned it, not even Fox "news". Thanks for the info. (Sigh) The circle jerk continues.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Smilin on 6/17/2010 4:34:55 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I had NO idea of this cap. NO ONE has mentioned it, not even Fox "news".


This is not news at all man. EVERYone mentioned it. Even BP mentioned it (and said they had no intentions of following it).


RE: Kudos to Costner
By YashBudini on 6/17/10, Rating: 0
RE: Kudos to Costner
By Solandri on 6/17/2010 6:18:54 PM , Rating: 3
Dunno why the news only mentions the liability cap like it's some free giveaway to the oil companies. It's part of a broader set of measures enacted after the Exxon Valdez spill.

http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/lawsregs/opaover.ht...

The worry was that a small oil company could cause a spill which bankrupted it, leaving no entity to pay for cleanup and liability costs.

Essentially, this part of the OPA works like an insurance program for the oil companies. They pay (paid) an insurance premium of 5 cents per barrel of oil extracted into the liability fund. In the event of a huge deepwater spill, their liability is capped at $75 mil, and subsequent payments are out of the liability fund.

http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/learning/oilfund.ht...

The fund hit its $1 billion limit in 1994, invoking a sunset clause and thus no more payments were collected. You can argue that the limit should be higher or should have been raised. But there's no need to be upset that liability is capped at $75 million. Any payments above that are paid for out of the liability fund, which is all money that came the oil companies in the form of "insurance premiums" they paid. None of the money is from taxpayers or from other sources.

But that's a moot point anyway since BP has said they will pay all liability claims directly.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By AEvangel on 6/17/2010 7:16:31 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
The worry was that a small oil company could cause a spill which bankrupted it, leaving no entity to pay for cleanup and liability costs.


The problem with line of thinking is that it allows these small companies and larger ones to engage in riskier behavior such as this with out having the proper coverage in case of an accident since they know they will be protected by the cap.

An the insurance fund is a joke since the estimated damages right now are in the 10's of billions of dollars. That fund wont even cover the first round of claims against it. Once again the more regulations you put in place the more problems it creates in the long run.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Solandri on 6/17/2010 8:20:50 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
The problem with line of thinking is that it allows these small companies and larger ones to engage in riskier behavior such as this with out having the proper coverage in case of an accident since they know they will be protected by the cap.

Correct. And now you've entered the world of risk management. Do something to mitigate risk in one area, and it increases risk in another. Was the net effect to make it better, or did it make it worse? From such questions are derivatives and credit default swaps born.

quote:
An the insurance fund is a joke since the estimated damages right now are in the 10's of billions of dollars.

As I said, the fund hit its cap in 4 years (1994). It probably would've been prudent back then to raise the cap and continue collecting the 5 cent tax (and make the tax a percentage to reflect the rising price of oil). But alas, Congress did not have such foresight. Fortunately BP has said they will pay all liabilities directly and not tap the fund. Hopefully they are true to their word and Congress can fix the cap on the liability fund without running into any ex post facto legal problems.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Hiawa23 on 6/17/2010 3:56:39 PM , Rating: 1
Come on, does it ever get old for some to always come back to blaming the Federal Govt for everything. Yeah, I guess the blame could go around to many, someone on Fox News the other night said the American people were partly to blame cause they like their big bad gas guzzling trucks. Kind of a stretch, but I guess everyone has an opinion. Are we ever going to get some energy plan in place & produce more of our own oil & rely less on countries that hate us but gladly take our money, or solve a number of many other problems this country faces that no one seems to have answers for. You say the Feds are taking over everything. Sounds more like someone's talking point that we see on tv on a nightly basis. Blame can be assigned after the hole is plugged, how do you fix this & prevent this from happening in the future.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By AEvangel on 6/17/2010 7:26:55 PM , Rating: 5
I can give you tons of sollutions....the only reason all those countries that we buy oil from hate us is cause we are over their in the first place, if the Govt would just leave and let the business's that own all those oil wells negitiate failry with the people living there then perhaps we would not have all this anger.

Also almost all the regulations that the Govt creates have only one real effect and that is to protect the status quo, whom either advocated the change or lobbied for it in the first place. Where I live there are tons of small Mom & Pop oil wells. This might lead you you think gas is cheaper here, but no I'm not able to buy inexpensive gas since it has to be sent three states away to a refinery where it is then refined then shipped back here or to other states where all that transportation is added back on as well as the additional pollution from transport.

The real idea here is a Govt which governs least governs best. Let the market and the people truly determine what they want with their dollars.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Reclaimer77 on 6/17/2010 10:03:58 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I can give you tons of sollutions....the only reason all those countries that we buy oil from hate us is cause we are over their in the first place


Are you serious? If you want to go there, OPEC are the ones selling them out. Last time I checked, we had NO power or decision making process in that organization.

And honestly, that whole " they are mad because we are there " line get's SO tired. Yeah we're so terrible for pumping trillions of dollars into those countries?? When we could be drilling domestically instead of buying from them.

If it wasn't for Western investment and influence, the Middle East would be even more of a camel humping brown turd than it is now. Get a clue.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By YashBudini on 6/17/2010 10:33:25 PM , Rating: 2
"If it wasn't for Western investment and influence, the Middle East would be even more of a camel humping brown turd than it is now. "

We liked it better before they could buy arms. And it was better.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Smilin on 6/17/10, Rating: 0
RE: Kudos to Costner
By Spuke on 6/17/2010 5:15:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Other culprits:
I'm of the philosophy that time is wasted assigning blame. Sure, it's part of the American culture but still a waste. Need to focus on solving the immediate problem and then figuring out a long term solution. Blame assignment can be handled later.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By rcc on 6/21/2010 6:02:18 PM , Rating: 2
If you think it's restricted to American Culture, you are very sadly mistaken.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By Reclaimer77 on 6/17/2010 6:08:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I wish oil companies and agencies had listened to him and bought these years ago.


LOL please, do you know how absurd it would sound to you if you were a CEO and someone told you Kevin 'freaking Costner had something that nobody else came up with?? Mr. Water World?

Even now it sounds like a joke. I keep waiting for it to turn out to be all a hoax or some publicity stunt.


RE: Kudos to Costner
By YashBudini on 6/20/2010 9:11:26 PM , Rating: 2
Your thinking (actually just pure bias) is the same as when IBM dealt with Bill Gates back in the 80s.


Big Machine and Hundreds of Gallons? So what....
By ICBM on 6/17/2010 3:20:00 PM , Rating: 4
Hundreds of gallons per minute seems like it wouldn't help much. 32 of the machines is supposed to help how much area? Can't be much. More like positive PR. Seems to me like going to fight a war with a 1 pump daisy BB gun.




By Enoch2001 on 6/17/2010 3:47:36 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Hundreds of gallons per minute seems like it wouldn't help much. 32 of the machines is supposed to help how much area? Can't be much. More like positive PR. Seems to me like going to fight a war with a 1 pump daisy BB gun.


Uhhhh... noooo - not just a PR stunt. Just one of these will process 2000 barrels of oil a day. So 32 of them will process 64,000 barrels a day. That's hardly just a "BB gun" dent in what's out there so far. In a little over 2 weeks time, over 1 million barrels could be processed.

That's assuming all the surface area of the contaminated ocean could be processed. That's more of the challenge, IMHO.


RE: Big Machine and Hundreds of Gallons? So what....
By ICBM on 6/17/2010 4:17:52 PM , Rating: 3
I hope you are right. What is the ratio of oil to water that this machine is supposed to pick up? Is it something like 1 part oil 10 parts water? Hundreds of gallons a minute just don't seem like much compared to total water volume, even just surface volume.

For perspective, we use a center pivot irrigation to water 100 Acres. We are pumping 1000gal/min out of a well, and it takes the pivot 72 hours to deliver just 2" of rain fall to 100 Ac. That is why hundreds of gpm didn't seem like much to me.


By VahnTitrio on 6/17/2010 5:18:01 PM , Rating: 4
You are about correct. Assuming these extract the top 12 inches of water (which with wave action stirring things up is not farfetched), running all 32 of these 24/7 they could clean up 153 acres per day (assuming 50 million gallons per day processed).

For those of you wondering that's about the smallest lake you could possibly water-ski on, or about a half mile by half mile. This may work to help contain further spillage, but as far as cleaning up what has already escaped these are pretty much useless.


By xsilver on 6/18/2010 2:34:54 AM , Rating: 3
I think what the OP is saying is that given the choice to plug the leak NOW or have these machines, You'd rather plug the hole because its causing way more damage than 32 of these machines can handle.


By AssBall on 6/17/2010 4:39:25 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
So 32 of them will process 64,000 barrels a day. That's hardly just a "BB gun" dent in what's out there so far. In a little over 2 weeks time, over 1 million barrels could be processed.


I like how positive you are about their peak theoretical performance being sustainable. I'll be really generous and say they maybe could get 35% of that in the gulf. That's IF they can keep them running all day and IF they don't break and IF weather is calm. So think even lower.

BP is already getting about 30,000 barrels a day (Washington Post) without these and hopes to double that by the end of the month (well they are running one to see if it works). And like you say processing that much surface area is going to be tough even with the booms.

And Ocean Therapy won't even be able to manufacture or deliver all 32 of these until late July or August. I'm trying to be positive about this too, but grab a dose of reality. It's mostly a PR stunt.


By Solandri on 6/17/2010 6:28:53 PM , Rating: 4
The point of these isn't to separate their max rate of oil (though it would be nice if they did). The point is the tankers following the skimmer ships get filled up with something like 90% water 10% oil, then have to leave and take that to a processing plant to separate the oil from the water.

By moving initial separation to the skimmer ship, they can fill the tanker up with (say) 10% water 90% oil, meaning the tanker doesn't have to make as many trips, less downtime for the skimmers, and thus a more efficient oil collection response overall.


By AssBall on 6/18/2010 7:12:38 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the addl. info.


Will the oil recovered be usable in any way?
By cknobman on 6/17/2010 1:28:59 PM , Rating: 2
Or will it just be toxic waste?




RE: Will the oil recovered be usable in any way?
By cochy on 6/17/2010 1:41:51 PM , Rating: 2
BP said they will sell the recovered oil and give the proceeds to the communities harmed by this mess.


RE: Will the oil recovered be usable in any way?
By MrWho on 6/17/2010 2:30:49 PM , Rating: 4
Of course they'll use it first to pay for the cleaning, the 32 machines, the manwork and all that stuff and then , if there's something left, it will fo to the communities.


By derricker on 6/18/2010 2:02:54 PM , Rating: 3
you forgot to include some nice CEO bonuses to pay for their vacations, they have to release the stress caused by this mess.


OilWorld
By KornVdd on 6/17/2010 2:26:30 PM , Rating: 5
Clean water is not a myth. I've seen it.




RE: OilWorld
By blueboy09 on 6/18/2010 12:49:41 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I drink it everyday, it's true you should try it sometime.


Drink it
By nafhan on 6/17/2010 2:18:32 PM , Rating: 2
I'd love to see Costner pour crude oil saturated water into one end of this thing, drink the water coming out the other end, and then run over someone with a jet ski. In fact, that sounds like a really good idea for a movie that would be ridiculously expensive to make and then not do so well in the theaters...




RE: Drink it
By brundall on 6/17/2010 2:33:49 PM , Rating: 3
Yes - Costner is obviously preparing the groundwork for his new 3d movie Waterworld 2 in which centrifuges create a portal between worlds. Seriously though - kudos to Costner for helping the cause.


Fake
By Visual on 6/17/2010 3:23:05 PM , Rating: 2
I can not imagine how any machines can have a noticeable effect at all, considering the huge scale of the spill. It is just not possible.




RE: Fake
By Spuke on 6/17/2010 3:32:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I can not imagine how any machines can have a noticeable effect at all, considering the huge scale of the spill. It is just not possible.
It will because ManBearPig told Costner it would!


By ryedizzel on 6/17/2010 3:41:48 PM , Rating: 4
Waterworld FTW!




By DukeN on 6/17/2010 1:42:15 PM , Rating: 2
Oil World anyone?




"Build it and they will come"
By NanoTube1 on 6/17/2010 6:11:16 PM , Rating: 2
I guess he lived up to it... :)




Peanut Butter
By optimuscream on 6/22/2010 5:21:40 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The initial test failed due to dispersal agents added to the crude oil transforming it into a peanut butter consistency that the machines could not work with


is it edible ? :))




I. Freak'n. *HATE*. Costner.
By Enoch2001 on 6/17/10, Rating: 0
liberals knock it off
By theraz on 6/18/10, Rating: 0
By Palindromedary on 6/17/2010 4:48:03 PM , Rating: 3
What do these non-sequiturs have to do with anything?

1) What's the ARMY Corp of Engineers going to do about a oil spill 1.5 kilometers under the ocean? Even if they were used to help with the cleanup (and maybe they will, though I'm not sure how useful they could be in this regard - what do you think they should be doing that they're not), that doesn't let BP off the hook. Perhaps Obama deserves criticism for his response, but how is he to blame?

2) It doesn't matter if the rig helped an old lady across the street. I mean, yes, if true it shows that at least it didn't have a history of disaster, but that doesn't let anyone off the hook when a disaster does occur. I'm sure the fact that the captain of the Valdez had never before beached an oil liner was of little comfort in Alaska. How does this absolve BP of blame?

3) What does it matter what kind of well it was? What does that have to do with blame for the disaster's effects and the cleanup effort?

4) Could be a fair point, except is there any evidence that Transocean is at fault?

Then we take an utter right turn to crazyland. Brown was sworn in at the start of February, so what does the former Democratic Senate supermajority have to do with the spill response? And anyone who knows jack about the political process in the United States knows that just because the Democrats had that majority didn't mean they could have passed everything they wanted, because, oh, I don't know, they weren't able to pass everything they wanted. Republicans vote in lockstep, while enough Democrats would (and still do) always side with them to prevent little things like your fantasy court packing conspiracy scheme from ever happening (seriously, where the hell did that idea come from?).

Do you actually have a real reason for not blaming BP?


By brokenaxiom on 6/19/2010 11:03:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
They've been mentioned early and often. They are also essentially a construction company so the sand berms (which they are actively working on)


As you've obviously been a member of the army corp of engineers you should definitely be an expert on their abilities and mission capacity. But for the rest of dailytech let's spend some time learning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Co...

quote:
The corps where like crackpot idea #3 just after "just blow the well up" and "make a big circle of oil tankers around the spill".


So utilizing an idea such as blowing up the well after it has been tested successfully four times is apparently crackpot? Man a bomb that makes a thick layer of near unbreakable glass in a mile radius around the leaking site is truly a terrible idea. Nevermind that our military's top men said it would work and it has in the past. Let's just shoot golfballs into the pipe instead.....

quote:
actually lots is being mentioned about transocean. Did you forget they were in front of congress some time ago? But remember transocean may have responsibilities on the rig but they end there. BP is the one responsible for the cleanup.


Yeah, because it's not like Obama delivered a speech from the oval office and exclusively blamed BP never once mentioning another corporation or entity...

quote:
Please. Take that weak sauce over to foxnews forums and put some capslock on it. BP isn't getting blamed because it's popular they are getting blamed because they are responsible. Many are at fault here but the buck stops somewhere doesn't it?


Isn't it FEMA's mandate to get involved in a national disaster? And how can a private foreign corporation construct the necessary seawalls in federally protected marshlands in under two weeks. Oh wait, they can't.

The only organization with the proper resources, intellect, and mobility to have dealt with this disaster in a timely manner is the Federal government. Obama chose not to use this option until he was certain the spill would be a terrible ecological crisis thus he can get his cap and trade legislation. Remember the creed of this administration, you never want a serious crisis to go to waste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow


By YashBudini on 6/17/2010 9:08:15 PM , Rating: 1
", the Democrat party had a strong enough majority in both parts of Congress and the Presidency to pass any law they wanted and to increase the Supreme Court to 22, giving them absolute power. "

Having laws on the books is one thing, having stones to enforce those laws is another.

Perhaps Obama should get Brownie back here to do the job.


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