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BMW Active Hybrid X6  (Source: Autoblog)

BMW Active Hybrid 7  (Source: Autoblog)
Both hybrids are luxury cars and will hit the U.S. this year

BMW has announced a pair of new hybrid vehicles that will be making their official debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September. The vehicles will hit American shores in Q4 2009 and the first one is called the BMW ActiveHybrid X6.

The ActiveHybrid X6 uses a hybrid drivetrain consisting of a 400hp twin-turbocharged V8 engine and two electric synchronous motors developing 91hp and 86hp respectively. The maximum power output of the entire power train is 480hp and 575 lb-ft of torque. The hybrid power train can push the SUV from a standstill to 60 mph in 5.4 seconds while improving fuel economy by 20% compared to the standard X6. The hybrid power train produces 231 grams of CO2 per kilometer.

At speeds of up to 37 mph, the vehicle will run exclusively on battery power and the combustion engine will be activated only when needed. The transmission used in the hybrid is a 7-speed automatic that can be operated manually. Power for the electric motors in the X6 comes from NiMH battery packs placed under the floor of the luggage compartment and the vehicle has the same cargo capacity as the standard X6. The maximum driving range on electric power alone is a mere 1.6 miles.

BMW also announced its new ActiveHybrid 7 based on the BMW 750i. The vehicle shares a power train similar to what the X6 uses with a twin-turbo V8 and 3-phase synchronous electric motors. The total power output for the vehicle is 455 hp with 516 lb-ft of torque. The car uses an 8-speed automatic transmission and power for the electric motors comes from a lithium-ion battery.

BMW claims that the hybrid power system allows the ActiveHybrid 7 to get 15% better fuel economy than the 750i or 750il. The car has automatic start and stop of the combustion engine and the AC system will continue to work when the vehicle isn’t running. The car has two onboard power networks with a 12-volt network operating the AC and some other systems and a 120-volt system powering the electric motors.

The lithium-ion battery is placed inside the floor of the luggage compartment, has 400 watt-hours of power, and uses 35 cells and an integrated control unit. The battery measures 14.6 x 8.7 x 9.1-inches and weighs 59.5 pounds. BMW says that the ActiveHybrid 7 can go from 0 to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds.

BMW says that the luxury hybrid market is one of the fastest growing in the auto sector. Toyota owns the low-end hybrid market with its new 2010 Prius.



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MPG
By Spivonious on 8/13/2009 9:39:31 AM , Rating: 4
From the source articles:

X6 Hybrid - 18mpg combined
7 Hybrid - 20mpg combined




RE: MPG
By IcePickFreak on 8/13/2009 9:44:56 AM , Rating: 5
Shhhh! 15% and 20% better fuel economy sounds better. I hope you don't work in marketing with presenting actual meaningful data like that.


RE: MPG
By headbox on 8/13/2009 3:22:21 PM , Rating: 5
Exactly- it's the same marketing that compels my wife to buy a pair of shoes because they're 20% off.

The X6 is hardly a "sport utility vehicle" either. It's a "designated-upper-middleclass-shopping-transport." Also known as a DUMSh!T


RE: MPG
By JediJeb on 8/13/2009 3:45:49 PM , Rating: 2
Actually it is an SUV ( Stupid Useless Vehicle)


RE: MPG
By Murloc on 8/13/2009 5:39:21 PM , Rating: 5
yes, and what's the point of buying a hybrid SUV?
it's a paradox.

If you want fuel economy then buy a smaller and normal car.


RE: MPG
By rosskey711 on 8/13/2009 8:14:34 PM , Rating: 2
no woman would drive that to put the shopping in... the X6 is bmw's answer to the porsche cayman it's supposed to be the sports car of the suv type cars


RE: MPG
By rosskey711 on 8/13/2009 8:15:09 PM , Rating: 2
cayenne not cayman... my bad


RE: MPG
By Spuke on 8/14/2009 12:29:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also known as a DUMSh!T
LOL! That's funny!


RE: MPG
By Machinegear on 8/13/2009 9:46:24 AM , Rating: 2
This begs the question; what classifies as 'Green'?

Is the fact the vehicle has better mileage than it's non-hybrid counterpart or if it meets a certain MPG rating?


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 9:52:00 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
what classifies as 'Green'?

The more it costs, the more government can tax and redistribute that money to the poor, the "greener" it is.


RE: MPG
By FITCamaro on 8/13/2009 9:54:06 AM , Rating: 2
Do hybrids, regardless of how poor the mileage, not pay the gas guzzler tax?


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 10:07:43 AM , Rating: 2
Do SUV's, regardless of how good their mileage may be, still pay the gas-guzzler tax?


RE: MPG
By FITCamaro on 8/13/2009 10:20:40 AM , Rating: 2
I was seriously asking. I'm almost positive SUVs still do.


RE: MPG
By Spivonious on 8/13/2009 10:27:13 AM , Rating: 3
From http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/info.shtml#guzzler

"The gas guzzler tax applies only to cars (not trucks)."

That would lead me to believe the SUVs have never had to pay the gas guzzler tax.


RE: MPG
By FITCamaro on 8/13/2009 10:31:27 AM , Rating: 2
I've never bought an SUV so I don't know. Interesting though.


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 11:06:38 AM , Rating: 2
For both my truck and suv, I don't think I've ever paid an additional tax on top of the sales tax - unless it was bundled and hidden in some kind of fee that I was unaware of.

I'm sure I would have noticed a line item on my invoice that said "Gas Guzzler Tax" if there was one.


RE: MPG
By corduroygt on 8/13/2009 1:00:43 PM , Rating: 2
But they can still use the carpool lane, at least in Virginia. Which is very wrong imho.
http://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/citizen/vehicle...


RE: MPG
By JediJeb on 8/13/2009 3:47:40 PM , Rating: 4
Most SUV's are classified as trucks, which is an insult to trucks.


RE: MPG
By Spuke on 8/14/2009 1:55:35 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Most SUV's are classified as trucks, which is an insult to trucks.
What I don't understand is that the smaller SUV's that are built on car platforms should be subject to the gas guzzler tax if they meet the requirements. I can understand the larger one's being exempt because they are built on the truck platforms but it makes no sense to include the smaller one's.


RE: MPG
By Suomynona on 8/13/2009 10:58:14 AM , Rating: 5
What do BMW autos have to do with government, taxes, or poor people? Why do you feel the need to turn every f*cking topic into a political rant? Dailytech used to be a great place to find out about new tech, but the comments here are getting ridiculously off-topic and trollish.


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 10:58:51 AM , Rating: 2
The question revolved around being "green", not BMW.


RE: MPG
By retrospooty on 8/15/2009 8:57:00 AM , Rating: 2
"The question revolved around being "green", not BMW. "

Suomynona has a point - you do turn every subject into a political attack. A highly biased right wing political attack. Regardless of the subject, you find a way to say something crappy and blame "the librulz". Your agenda is quite trasparent.

Dont try and deny it - any number of regulars here can and will start posting links.


RE: MPG
By JohnnyCNote on 8/13/2009 12:56:10 PM , Rating: 5
Thank you! I agree 100% . . .


RE: MPG
By Smilin on 8/13/2009 1:45:49 PM , Rating: 3
+1


RE: MPG
By SublimeSimplicity on 8/13/2009 10:39:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
This begs the question; what classifies as 'Green'?

It's quantified by the per capita profits made off of hippies vs average joes.

This definition is the only way to classify Al Gore as 'Green'


RE: MPG
By MrBlastman on 8/13/2009 11:18:52 AM , Rating: 2
I thought that is all he has between his ears... Green Goo.

That would explain why he's such a snot.


RE: MPG
By OCDude on 8/13/2009 1:10:45 PM , Rating: 2
But guys, Man-Bear-Pig is out there! I'm super cereal!


RE: MPG
By Pythias on 8/13/2009 11:43:00 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
This begs the question; what classifies as 'Green'? Is the fact the vehicle has better mileage than it's non-hybrid counterpart or if it meets a certain MPG rating?


I would guess that if the goal is to reduce "carbon footprint", then emissions are the benchmark.

If the goal is to conserve energy, then fuel efficiency is more important.


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/09, Rating: 0
RE: MPG
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2009 9:54:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
A luxury hybrid car is nothing more than a "feel good" thing for rich liberals.


Question, what do rich conservatives drive?


RE: MPG
By FITCamaro on 8/13/2009 9:55:29 AM , Rating: 5
Lamborghinis and Ferraris. Or if I was rich a ZR-1. Funny it gets better mileage than either of these hybrids by a long shot.


RE: MPG
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2009 10:07:10 AM , Rating: 5
How does a Ferrari or ZR-1 take the place of a 5-seater luxury sedan?

If buying a BMW ActiveHybrid 7 makes you a liberal hippie, does buying a regular 750i make you a gift from god? Or maybe an S-Class or Audi A8? Does that make it OK?

I dunno, I'm just getting sick and tired of this liberal vs conservative bull****.


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 10:12:26 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
I dunno, I'm just getting sick and tired of this liberal vs conservative bull****.

Unfortunately Brandon, it's never going to go anywhere when people are trying to change the way people live their lives through guilt.

However, back on subject - I just really can't see anyone buying either of these cars and trying to give the impression that they are doing something good in terms of conservation. Personally, I dont care about conserving fuel one bit, which is why I have two V8 powered autos - a truck and suv.

So the only two types of people who would buy these would be the person who wants top of the line with every option and being a hybrid is just another "option" they included but don't really care about its intended purpose. The other type would be the one who is doing it to feel good about themselves while trying to give an impression that they are doing something to help everyone else.


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 10:15:05 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
However, back on subject - I just really can't see anyone buying either of these cars and trying to give the impression that they are doing something good in terms of conservation.

I mean to say that i can't see anyone being honest with themselves by trying to give the impression they are doing something good in terms of conservation.


RE: MPG
By Sulphademus on 8/13/2009 1:22:29 PM , Rating: 2
I think the term hybrid has been coopted by those of the extremist political persuasions. It is just as easy to build a hybrid for performance and not economy. Just look at the combined power output of the X6 there. We're not driving Miss Daisy here, unless Daisy is also a secret Nascar fan.
Maybe this car is for someone in the middle. Maybe not someone who uses Benjamins for toilet paper but someone who earns a good amount and is stretching a little to buy a really nice car but would still like to not pull over at ever Exxon station in sight.

But then again, could be as easy a ploy by BMW to capture some of the hybrid spotlight which is burning bright right now and should probably be replaced with a CFL (made in China).


RE: MPG
By Chaser on 8/13/2009 10:19:06 AM , Rating: 2
I have a friend that recently bought a Lexus SUV hybrid. I also kinda thought to myself "what's the point?". But after talking to the person I gained some understanding. Just because someone has more money or an appearance of money to burn doesn't mean they don't care about saving money. To most of them they want to drive their luxury SUV but at the same time if there is technology that keeps them away from the volatile prices at the gas pump they do feel better. I would too.

I tend to side politically with Mdogs most the time. But in this case wanting a hybrid has nothing to do with "being a liberal". However a hybrid does make them feel better they are a little less shackled to the gas pump. It's their money. More power to them.


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 10:23:02 AM , Rating: 1
Chaser, I agree with what you're saying. All I'm saying is that anyone who purchases these and tries to tell people they are conserving for the environment is full of crap. If they want the newest in technology, or its just they can afford it, then that's great.

Personally, I refuse to buy anything but a truck or suv anymore, so as long as they are happy with what they got, that's all that matters. I just don't like when people try to ram their lifestyles down everyone else's throat saying I drive a hybrid/compact, you should too.


RE: MPG
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/13/2009 10:31:50 AM , Rating: 2
What makes buying a hybrid ramming their "lifestyle" in your face? The only people that seem to make a big deal about hybrids are the ones who are always complaining about them.

I know quite a few people with hybrid vehicles... they drive them like normal cars and don't say a damn thing about them.

It might have been "cool" when hybrids first came out to talk about them like vomit from the mouth annoying the hell out of people, but hybrids are so commonplace at the moment that the "hybrid owners are ramming their lifestyle down my throat" argument is pretty limp right now.


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/09, Rating: 0
RE: MPG
By bhieb on 8/13/2009 11:35:10 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
What makes buying a hybrid ramming their "lifestyle" in your face?


It is not just the owner. What turns it political is that the DT author decided to focus on the MPG gains of 15-20%, but failed to mention the dismal overall MPG.

Yes posters are overly political here, but DT has no one to blame but themselves. As evident by the OP pointing out the fact that the MPG is not good. The DT author chose to include the "gains", but not the crappy end result. By doing so HE created a bias in the article that did not need to be there.

Keeping Mick on staff does not help your "no more political posts" campaign either. The continuous biased dribble that comes out of DT's authors is what keeps the political flame going (although Shane is not usually a culprit).


RE: MPG
By Keeir on 8/13/2009 12:13:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It is not just the owner. What turns it political is that the DT author decided to focus on the MPG gains of 15-20%, but failed to mention the dismal overall MPG.


Which is primarily because these are copy and paste jobs from press releases. Not due as you suggest to a bias from the "author".

Which I really have no issue with, but I would prefer to -know- I am reading a press release, and to have the DT poster include a relavent addition to this press release. Maybe a format similar to Autobloggreen?


RE: MPG
By Lord 666 on 8/13/2009 10:15:57 AM , Rating: 2
Yet a real and logical solution like importing their UK spec diesels and retrofitting for US emmissions isn't being done for either vehicle.

The high end crowd adopted diesels in the 80's without issue. Some people attributed it to the rich wanting to have an excuse to hang out in truck stops.


RE: MPG
By Spuke on 8/14/2009 2:07:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yet a real and logical solution like importing their UK spec diesels and retrofitting for US emmissions isn't being done for either vehicle.
I would agree that this may be a better route than hybrids but the rich are as trendy as anyone else and, commonplace or not, hybrids are trendy in the US. Diesel in the US is STILL not widely accepted but at least some manufacturers are trying it out again. You can get some diesel BMW models here in the US.


RE: MPG
By Spivonious on 8/13/2009 9:57:15 AM , Rating: 2
They drive luxury non-hybrids. Duh! :P


RE: MPG
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 10:05:35 AM , Rating: 2
Hummers :)


RE: MPG
By Pythias on 8/13/2009 11:56:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Question, what do rich conservatives drive?


Same thing rich liberals drive, only they don't condemn anyone else for doing the same.

Its okay for Gore to pollute the Caney Fork river with his zinc mine but not for me to drive an suv.


RE: MPG
By Keeir on 8/13/2009 12:16:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Question, what do rich conservatives drive?


The non Hybrid version, provided that the rich conservative sees it as cheaper over the time they expect to own it.

I assume you meant politcally conservative. The Rich resource conservative drives only what he needs. Probably a Toyota Prius.


RE: MPG
By Spuke on 8/14/2009 2:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Probably a Toyota Prius.
Probably not anything new. The rich fiscally conservatives I know all drive older cars and only buy a replacement (another car but still not new) when their present car falls apart or they get a smokin deal. The only time you see lots of money spent is on their hobbies.


RE: MPG
By dwalton on 8/13/2009 2:25:53 PM , Rating: 3
Actually, the Prius is the "feel good" car for people who want to be appear self conscious of their impact on the enviroment. The Prius for most buyers for all its hoopla is more about status, just like a Lamborgini, with the focus instead on green in terms of the enviroment versus green in terms of wealth.

If there were a gas only version of the Prius, noone would pay anywhere near 18-22k for the hybrid version as the gas version would lessen its status and the gas only version wouldn't garner any major demand anywhere near 18-20K. This is the reason that hybrid version of well known line of most car companies have a problem garnering sales like the Prius. Those cars aren't as great of a status symbol as the Prius, when it comes to "saving the enviroment".

Until gas saving tech becomes practical costwise and becomes a standard feature in vehicles, we won't have a major impact on our dependency on crude oil. Where are we likely to see hybrid or better tech become standard? In luxury vehicles like Lexus, Acura, Infiniti, BMW, Caddillac, Lincoln and Mercedes. The tech has less impact on the retail price of those brands percentage wise. As costs decrease the feasibility of this tech being standard in luxury car will happen alot sooner then in mainstream cars. There is a reason why Lexus has more hybrids in its lineup then does Toyota. Once these tech become standard in luxury vehicles the next step is being standard in mainstream cars. And once they become standard in mainstream brands then buyers won't need to a motivation to be conscious of their enviromental impact and will we seen a major reduction on our dependency on oil.


RE: MPG
By Lord 666 on 8/14/2009 8:02:58 AM , Rating: 2
Even though I own a TDI, the Prius is a damn good car. Rented one and in the heat with a/c on, it did better mpg than my Jetta would have based on the conditions. Why don't I own a Prius? The Jetta has better crash results and can be optioned with rear side airbags. Additionally, my family drives a higher mix of highway miles than city. Highway miles are diesel's strength and city is hybrids. When VW finally releases a diesel hybrid, it will be very practical. The Volt should also be diesel, but we are talking about GM.

So instead of this stupid polarized "smug" talk, the mature thing to do is chalk it up to a marketing nonsense. Honda failed with the Accord hybrid, these will too.


For that...
By FITCamaro on 8/13/2009 9:53:05 AM , Rating: 2
Feel good easy feelings hippy mentality. Wow 1.6 miles on electric power? What'd they stick some electric motors and a string of two dozen rechargeable D-cell batteries in it?

Nothing but a PR move. Only idiots will buy this hybrid over the regular version. Lucky for BMW, there's plenty of them with money to burn. Shit they can sell almost 300 to members of Congress.




RE: For that...
By Naame on 8/13/2009 10:06:06 AM , Rating: 1
"Shit they can sell almost 300 to members of Congress. "

I have read a lot of your posts. However, I think I will say a little something about this one. Think of it as advice rather than flame bait please.

If comments like the one I quoted being used in relation to a poor BMW product isn't a sign that you are too biased and angry to form fair and just opinions regarding politics then I don't what does.

In short, calm down. You are way too angry.


RE: For that...
By mdogs444 on 8/13/2009 10:19:51 AM , Rating: 2
Personally Naame, I think hes right on.

His purpose was to say that members of congress attempt to give the impression to the public that they are doing something good, so everyone should follow suit. Just like they recently tried to pawn off the attempt to purchase $550M in new luxury planes to shuttle them around by saying they'll save a few thousand dollars per hour flight time - this, right after they blasted auto executives for flying private jets when their companies are in financial distress, as if the US economy isn't.

The members of Congress are known for being this way in just about every subject. So yes, they probably would go buy these cars and then tell the public to get hybrids too so we can save gas. But the fact is the public can't afford these and we'd get stuck with crappy compact cars while they stroll around in luxury auto's where the hybrid is nothing more than a sticker on the outside and serves no reasonable purpose.


RE: For that...
By FITCamaro on 8/13/09, Rating: 0
RE: For that...
By Naame on 8/13/2009 11:12:58 AM , Rating: 2
My point is that this is just a BMW product. I think it is fine to criticize their product, but the government really has nothing to do with it. Yes, they are pushing the green movement, but they are not pushing this specific hybrid. That is all BMW.

It is pretty common to be critical and upset with one's government. To a point, that is a good thing because it provides the country with a great sense of checks and balances. However, to become so constantly angry that you start thinking about those problems when BMW releases a new line of products and the PR is trying to make them out to be something more than they actually are is a sign of being too obsessive. Such emotions very often lead to clouded and biased thinking. That kind of thinking causes people to not be open to ideas from both sides of the fence which could be very useful.

In other words, it's just a really bad habit and often counter productive. I don't mean to sound condescending, but the fact is that I have seen this sort of thing in a lot of FITCamaro's previous posts amongst various articles. It is not about "being fed bullsh*t". It is about being so angry that you fail to give enough consideration to ideas and opinions on a case by case basis.


RE: For that...
By FITCamaro on 8/13/2009 12:23:42 PM , Rating: 2
Who says I don't take things as they come and consider them?

But the "green" movement has around plenty of time and we've all had time to weigh in on it.

And where did I say Congress was involved with the product? I said that in my opinion, they'd view this as progress and be stupid enough to buy it. Then go on TV and demonize people who drive a V8 Durango when it gets the same mileage as their hybrid X6.


RE: For that...
By Chaser on 8/13/2009 11:15:26 AM , Rating: 3
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people’s money.”

—Margaret Thatcher


RE: For that...
By Hare on 8/13/2009 1:28:59 PM , Rating: 3
If someone who is considering a car like these decides to go with the hybrid version, what exactly makes him an idiot? Since when did paying extra for new technology become stupid? Can you actually consider that someone might simply make an educated decision because 1) they want to reduce emissions compared to the non-hybrid version 2) want new tech and even consider their purchase an incentive for additional progress with cleaner tech?

I mean c'mon. No one is going to buy a 7-series BMW to save fuel or rub it in your face that they are saving mother nature. These people want a luxury sedan and some decide to fork some extra cash to get the hybrid version. Your rant has absolutely no point.


You guys ALL have it wrong
By eric01887 on 8/13/2009 11:01:09 AM , Rating: 5
This is how it works:
1) I go out and buy the X6 hybrid

2) I tell everyone I meet that I just bought a 480HP hybrid SUV to save the earth

3) They die laughing

4) As a result of having died, they consume less resources

5) Earth gets saved




Bad game plan...
By SublimeSimplicity on 8/13/2009 9:59:45 AM , Rating: 3
I don't get the point of these performance hybrids. Lexus did one of these two. At the end of the day it was around $10k more expensive, had ever so slightly faster acceleration numbers, and got worse fuel economy on the HWY.

The batteries and motors add bulk which certainly won't help handling and barely goes over break even on acceleration.

If the point was to increase fuel economy put the money into lighter weight materials and a dry sump engine.

If the point is marketing just do what GM does and put a motor in place of the alternator with a little more battery capacity than a normal car and call it a hybrid.




WAY off the topic at hand, but...
By Hieyeck on 8/13/2009 1:03:23 PM , Rating: 3
I'm confused. Why is it that pirks makes all those (poor) car references but doesn't post in car threads? Could it be he actually knows nothing about cars *shock*?




There's an idea.
By Smilin on 8/13/2009 9:56:44 AM , Rating: 2
That's an idea.. Electric up a high end 7 series. The added cost of the new technology gets lost in the overall high price of the vehicle. When the R&D is paid for and production ramped up to efficience they could perhaps move it down to the 5 or even 3 series.

I still applaud Chevy for coming out with the Volt and I think that it's technology will benefit them for many models to come. Unfortunately what took them a decade and billions (was it 15?) to develop the other manufacturers are whipping out easily now.




BMW Hybrid
By btc909 on 8/13/2009 10:03:48 AM , Rating: 2
So where is the can of Slime to fill up a punctured tire?

I take it these Hybrid's require a AAA membership. Those batteries have to go somewhere.




By JohnnyCNote on 8/13/2009 1:14:18 PM , Rating: 2
Every gallon of gas that's saved is less money going into the pockets of the Saudi's, among others. It's unfortunate that too many people around here overlook that basic fact in their eagerness to get in a dig against so-called "liberals" . . .




All you idiots are WRONG!
By UNCjigga on 8/13/2009 3:28:57 PM , Rating: 2
There are two types of hybrids:

1) "Save the Planet" hybrids with low power, high mpg, ultra-low emissions, aerodynamic design with low drag, marketed on their "green" image, etc. Ex: Toyota Prius

2) "Sport" hybrids with power of a V12/V8/V6 with fuel economy of a V8/V6/I4. These are hybrids that emphasize raw performance off the line, while offering similar fuel economy/emissions of a smaller engine. These are marketed to the "have your cake and eat it too" crowd. Ex: Lexus GS450h, BMW ActiveHybrids

The only person who looks like an idiot is the one who doesn't understand these are two completely different markets.




Horsepower
By TennesseeTony on 8/13/2009 5:36:30 PM , Rating: 2
"Top speed in the electric mode is 37 mph..."

How in the world can 177 horsepower only get you to 37mph?

I'm a bit confused as to how 177 hp + 400 hp equals 480 hp also. I do understand that combustion motors have a curve to their power and torque, but don't electric motors have nearly linear curves? Therein likely lies my error, perhaps my knowledge of electric motors is flawed.




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