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After 2014 vehicles without AEB systems are unlikely to get five-star crash ratings in Europe

Automakers all around the world are working on new and improved systems to increase driver safety. One such improvement that automakers all around the world are beginning to implement are emergency braking systems that are able to bring the car to a stop with minimal or even no driver input. Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) uses various vehicle sensors such as radar, lasers, and video technology to detect impending collisions and stop the car without driver input.
 
Some automakers are working on versions of the system that work at low speeds while others will work at both low and high speeds. Automakers are also working on systems that are also able to identify pedestrians and stop the vehicle when sensors determine that a collision could occur.
 
According to the European Commission, AEB systems could reduce accidents by up to 27%, eventually saving as many as 8,000 lives each year. The AEB systems could also potentially save between £3.9 billion and £6.3 billion yearly from reduced accidents. Other studies indicate that there is also a significant financial gain to be made from reducing congestion associated with accidents.
 
Philippe Jean of the EC, stated, “Our studies indicate that the resulting reduction in congestion due to accidents would represent an economic value of about €100 million (£78.5m) in Germany alone.”
 
Jean has also announced that all commercial vehicles will be required to have AEB technology fitted to be able to get European Type Approval starting in November of 2013. That proposal was also being considered passenger cars.
 
The Euro NCAP has also announced that it is including AEB unit safety assessment starting in 2014. According to EURO NCAP, which is a European crash test organization, it would be "practically impossible" for models not equipped with AEB to earn a five star crash rating. 
 
Motorists could also see insurance premiums decrease for vehicles fitted with AEB systems. 

Source: Telegraph



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Cost?
By Manch on 8/6/2012 10:57:35 AM , Rating: 2
And how much extra will this nanny system cost? How long will that offset the savings in insurance, and what about those cars that do not have it? Your car stops via AEB and you HOPE the guy without it behind you stops?




RE: Cost?
By DanNeely on 8/6/2012 11:33:24 AM , Rating: 2
How is that latter case any different than today when you see something in front of you and stomp on your brakes?


RE: Cost?
By Manch on 8/6/2012 5:57:36 PM , Rating: 2
Because Im not controlling it. Technology is great and all but I think they need to tread carefully about mandating systems, without realizing the pitfalls.

Assisting with the braking is one thing, taking it over is another.


RE: Cost?
By martin5000 on 8/7/2012 4:29:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I think they need to tread carefully about mandating systems


They are not mandating it.


RE: Cost?
By Manch on 8/7/2012 3:56:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Jean has also announced that all commercial vehicles will be required to have AEB technology fitted to be able to get European Type Approval starting in November of 2013. That proposal was also being considered passenger cars.


Am I misreading that? It's not their yet for passenger cars, but thats the direction theyre headed.


RE: Cost?
By bah12 on 8/6/2012 11:34:45 AM , Rating: 2
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Your car stops via AEB and you HOPE the guy without it behind you stops?
How is that any different that you stomping on the brake manually?


RE: Cost?
By siconik on 8/6/2012 11:52:24 AM , Rating: 3
Currently if you detect an potential impending collision you have two options:
1) Attempt to stop.
2) Attempt to steer around the obstacle.

What if the driver chooses option 2 only to have the automated system engage in the middle of high-speed maneuver?


RE: Cost?
By Rukkian on 8/6/2012 12:09:54 PM , Rating: 3
It is kind of like a vaccination against accidents. If everybody had one, there would very few times when you would need to steer around the backup, as there would less accidents.

If it could get people to quit tailgating, it would help even more.


RE: Cost?
By Adonlude on 8/6/2012 2:23:13 PM , Rating: 2
Another interesting problem that this system would create. What if you had a justifiable need to use your car as a weapon to ram someone or something in self defense? It would suck to come up on a "North Hollywood Shootout" scenario and have your car auto brake as you try to run down the guy pointing the assault rifle at you.


RE: Cost?
By Jaybus on 8/6/2012 2:50:59 PM , Rating: 3
Right....or if a meteor suddenly takes out a section of bridge up ahead and you need to accelerate in order to jump the gap.


RE: Cost?
By martin5000 on 8/7/2012 4:38:59 AM , Rating: 2
Or if you need to get to 88mph to time travel, but the car puts the brakes on.


RE: Cost?
By Paj on 8/7/2012 7:32:57 AM , Rating: 2
Or if you're trying to escape from Godzilla and his foot gets in the way.


RE: Cost?
By tayb on 8/6/2012 12:18:58 PM , Rating: 2
I think one of the only reasons you would use option 2 is if you don't have sufficient room to break. You weren't paying attention and suddenly you're at a red light. The idea here is that the car brakes for you before you've noticed and option 2 is never needed.

Also, modern brakes don't limit your ability to steer while braking so I suppose you could still attempt to steer out of the way anyway.


RE: Cost?
By Manch on 8/6/2012 6:00:54 PM , Rating: 2
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Also, modern brakes don't limit your ability to steer while braking so I suppose you could still attempt to steer out of the way anyway.


Yeah they do. Modern brakes do not defy physics. Anytime you hit the brakes, you affect your ability to steer.


RE: Cost?
By tayb on 8/6/2012 11:49:36 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure how much this will cost but the net economic effect of reduced accident related traffic across the US would be huge. Germany estimates $123 million and in the US that number could easily be $700 million. Sitting in traffic is extremely expensive both in time wasted and gas.

I didn't see any US related mandates or even the prospect that the US was considering it. Far too much political bickering for something like this to ever get passed anyway.


RE: Cost?
By Manch on 8/6/2012 6:06:16 PM , Rating: 1
These estimates are all conjecture. Have you ever seem a gov estimate from anyh country pan out? :D

Give it time, theyll push this nanny technology on the US too.

Im for making cars safer. I like ABS, airbags, safety glass, pop up hoods that make it hurt less when hit by a car. Hell I wish the SUV that hit me had one. Wouldve hurt a lot less! All these technologies are passive tho.


Still a bit iffy
By Mobious918 on 8/6/2012 11:51:19 AM , Rating: 2
IMHO this system is great and is going to save a lot of heartache and money for those that have it, there's no doubt about that. My only concern, although very situational, is how this system might hamper with situations where you might need to bump into something or push something out of the way in order to stay alive. Would certainly make off-roading a hassle if the brakes keep engaging every time you approach a steep hill at speed.




RE: Still a bit iffy
By geddarkstorm on 8/6/2012 12:49:50 PM , Rating: 2
Would probably be useful to have a way to turn it off (like a button), but with the extra liability that comes to any driver that does so and then crashes. But at least this way, one can take back control of the brakes if the situation requires it.


RE: Still a bit iffy
By Jaybus on 8/6/2012 2:57:18 PM , Rating: 2
The most glaring fault I see is that it will increase the number of idiots that just walk out into traffic and force everyone to stop because they couldn't be bothered to wait for the light to change when crossing the street as pedestrians.


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