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France court also refuses Samsung's request to ban Apple's iPhone 4S; pair forced to compete on the market

Australian shoppers may finally themselves scratching their heads in dumbfoundment when they are greeted by the gourgeous display of Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KS:005930) popular Galaxy Tab 10.1.  "Is this a free market again?" they may wonder.

Well, yes.  The wheels of justice have been turning and Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) attempt to replicate it's government-enforced monopoly it enjoys on modern "minimalist" tablets (thin, rectangular, touch-driven, with few redundant face buttons) in Germany was struck down by an Australian appeals court.

To recap:

The original ban was put in place by Justice Annabelle Bennett said that Apple had a prima facie case regarding infringement, or in English, that it appeared at first glance that Samsung's infringement was self-evident given the facts.  

Specifically, she said that Samsung appeared to be infringing on an Apple touch-input heuristics patent (AU 2007286532) and a patent involving the manufacturing process used to make the iPad/iPad 2 touch screen (AU 2005246219).  The decision came in October; over two months after Samsung agreed to temporarily halt sales while Justice Bennett ponder the preliminary injunction.

Cheered by the win, Apple looked to extend its reach to Samsung tablets of all sizes, banning the Galaxy Tab 7 and Galaxy Tab 10.1v, which had not yet been explicitly banned in the region.  Apple's lawyer made his bid at a full monopoly on "minimalist" designs commenting, "Samsung says Galaxy Tab 10.1, we say any tablet device."

It was there that it was dealt its first setback in the Australian court campaign.  Justice Annabelle Bennett dismissed the request for more preliminary injunction bans, saying she was not convinced that this "rolling mandatory injunction" (as Samsung's attorney labeled it) was warranted.  Apple would not have its blanket monopoly.  But it least had one triumph in its cap.

Following that decision, Samsung offered to make peace with Apple in October, but Apple refused.

Then at the end of November a panel of three judges -- Justices John Dowsett, Lindsay Foster and David Yates -- dealt a harsh blow to Apple, ruling that Judge Bennett's logic in delivering a preliminary injunction was "grossly unjust" and complained that she "misunderstood and misapplied" the basics of Australian law regarding preliminary injunctions.  They did force Samsung to endure one last delay, allowing apple to appeal the appeal.

Back to Present:

Fast forward a week and a half and a second panel of three Sydney, Australia High Court judges unanimously agreed to dismiss Apple's application for special leave to appeal the Federal Court's repeal of the sales ban.

Time to Tab

That means the Galaxy Tab 10.1 can now launch, just in time for Christmas.  The local Herald Sun paper reports that it will be priced at $579 AU and $729 AU for the WiFi and WiFi+3G models ($1 AU = $1.02 USD).

While damage has been done to Samsung's bottom line, at least its suffering is at last come to an end.

Apple bitterly refused to comment on the defeat.

Samsung Also Humbled:

In what some are hailing as a similar victory for free market competition and a similar move towards ending to anticompetitive litigation, Samsung's request to get a preliminary injunction banning iPhone 4S sales in France was struck down.  Based on the wording of the Reuters report, it sounds that Samsung's case will still be heard (as in Apple's Australian case), but that the court ordered Samsung to pay "100,000 euros ($133,900)" of Apple's legal costs for inappropriately request a preliminary injunction.

While some would like to see Apple or Samsung successfully ban the other's products in internation courts, many have grown frustrated with the pair's 80+ lawsuits.  

Of course Apple started the fight, with late CEO and company co-founder Steven Jobs calling Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android operating system a "stolen product" and vowing to spend all of his company's money, if necessary to "destroy" manufacturers using Android.

But some would rather let the pair fight their war on the free market, spending their money on bettering their products, rather than trying to buy a victory by instead funneling that money to finance high-powered legal teams, an expenditure which would do little good for customers.

The Free Market
Some people are opposed to companies using litigation as an anticompetitive tool to ban each other's products, regardless of who started the fight and who wins it.
[Image Source: The Free Market]

So far that's more or less what has happening.  Courts in the U.S. and now Australia have refused to grant Apple's request for a sales ban, while a court in the Netherlands rejected Apple's efforts to ban slightly modified Samsung devices, which removed what the court ruled was an infringing feature.  Similarly courts in the Netherlands, and now France, have rejected Samsung's counter efforts to ban the iPhone 4S.

Thus far the only ban still in effect is the German court order, which grants Apple a blanket monopoly of the "minimalist" tablet space.  The greater sentiment of the judicial system will soon be tested, though, as Samsung has submitted a redesigned tablet that, while still rectangular, removes virtually any design similarities in color scheme or I/O input placement between the iPad and the Galaxy Tab tablets.  

Apple wants the new design banned from sale -- after all it is a tablet.  It should be interesting to see if the German court continues to live in its own reality which appears to be distinctly separate from its European Union and international peers.

Sources: The Herald Sun (AU), Reuters

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I could be wrong but...
By MechanicalTechie on 12/9/2011 7:22:25 PM , Rating: 5
I think I speak for the majority of people when I say


RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/9/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By MechanicalTechie on 12/9/2011 7:48:45 PM , Rating: 5
Dude... I know what you do... I've seen your post on other sites.. I would suggest that you stop copying and pasting your comments from site to site.. so to make it less oblivious that your a troll!!!

I'm almost certain your an Apple employee now!!!

RE: I could be wrong but...
By spaced_ on 12/12/2011 4:52:35 AM , Rating: 4
I highly doubt he is actually an Apple employee.

Apple are too good at PR/marketing to waste money hiring a guy to spam web sites just to make Apple look bad. That's kind of counter-productive.

More likely he is an Apple evangelist who's taken his love of the corporate product to the extreme. Liken it to religion.

If you're a hardcore Christian and I say Jesus was actually a tool, God is actually Satan and you're a lesser human being for believing the opposite, you'd likely be offended and spout out all kinds of things at me in defense of your religion. Even if I had evidence showing the opposite. As it may adversely affect the way the reward center in your brain behaves, or what not.

It's pretty obvious based on Jobs' quotes that the call came right from the top to wage a crusade against Android. Rightly so, as I imagine Android's ability to quickly eat away at Apple's market share was hurting poor Steve's giant ego.

I wouldn't worry. Unless Steve had/has a close friend to continue the crusade at the top of the food chain, the aggressive legal stance from Apple should die down soon enough. Mind you, they do have plenty of reserves in their coffers with guys like Tony supporting the cause, so maybe it'll continue a bit longer.

But the most interesting thing about this whole patent troll endeavour from Apple that I've gleaned is the mess the patent system is, and likely, will continue to be in. As a programmer and tech enthusiast myself, it's scary how much you're at the mercy of the patent holder if you're to try to innovate. You can be sued to oblivion if you become successful using common sense to design whatever it is you wish to make.

In some ways it's good, if Apple continues on their crusade, it might force government intervention to do something about technology patents. On the other hand, potentially it might not and we can all hold hands in Apple land with Tony, furiously tapping away on our multi-touch(TM) devices, whilst paying homage to the messiah (Steve), saying a prayer to lesser primitive peoples and the less fortunate who can't afford an iTool.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By themaster08 on 12/10/2011 3:24:17 AM , Rating: 2
Look at the dislikes and comments on those videos. That should give you a better description of reality.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By themaster08 on 12/10/2011 5:57:53 AM , Rating: 3
There's no problem, except that your agenda here is to circumvent the actual article, due to the fact that you're unable to fathom any criticism, regardless of how constructive, towards Apple.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Gondor on 12/10/2011 5:58:02 AM , Rating: 5
Boo-hoo, cry me a river ...

This is not about Apple's products but about their business practices, patent trolling to be more precise. When they are afraid of competition they seek bans based on moronic patents instead of letting market (= consumers) decide which product is better.

So do get your head out of Apple's butt and wipe those brown stains off your eyes - this will allow you to see what is really going on here.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By JediJeb on 12/10/2011 8:19:19 PM , Rating: 5
I don't have a problem with what Apple makes, or what they come up with. But when someone can make a similar product and sell it for half the price, then that just means that Apple is charging twice as much as they should for the same product. When I shop for a product I am looking for the most bang for the buck, if Apple can give that then I would buy from Apple, is Samsung can offer me the same thing for a lower price then I will buy from them. That is what the free market is about.

When I think of Apple complaining so much about the tablet design, I think where Apple would be if Motorola had been granted complete and exclusive rights to cellphones. Motorola was the first to design a hand held cellphone, should they be asking courts to block sales of the iPhone since it is a handheld cellphone? Can you imagine where cellphones would be now if only Motorola had been able to make them?

Apple's market is pretty much locked in with their fan base, but if there is no competition will the tablet progress as quickly in design changes as it would if there were no competition to worry about? If there had been no competition in the cellphone market we might still be packing around bricks with us. Also if all the money spent on legal fees were spend on R&D we could progress even faster. Apple needs to worry less about blocking competition and more about advancing the electronics world. Same goes for all the other companies the spend more money in court trying to defend patents than they do on actually producing something based on those patents(Apple isn't as much this type as say someone like Rambus is).

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: I could be wrong but...
By sprockkets on 12/10/2011 9:31:45 PM , Rating: 1
That's because Apple refused Moto's FRAND terms, not because they sued first asked questions never.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By Paj on 12/11/2011 8:00:57 AM , Rating: 4
Or that their products break faster

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By its tom hanks on 12/11/2011 10:18:33 AM , Rating: 4
Presumably in secret as Apple consistently tops all reliability and customer satisfaction surveys :)

well, when a company's entire consumer base is a bunch of fanboy fucktards who have achieved ALL of their social status through the apple logos they flaunt around, of course they're going to "say" that the iphone is the best, they don't know any better. It must be quite a scientific study though, I'm sure. so that put in your apple-holy-ness equation and rerun the numbers

RE: I could be wrong but...
By its tom hanks on 12/11/2011 10:19:48 AM , Rating: 2
edit: "put that" (tony wouldn't have been able to figure it out on his own, I didn't want to confuse him with the typo, he's just an apple fanboy)

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By MechanicalTechie on 12/11/2011 8:09:30 PM , Rating: 2
What is wrong with you Tony.. We all know you only defend Apple because of your invested interests in the company... This is a technology site... the combined knowledge of people at this site is far superior than your general public iTools... don't you find it interesting that your the only one defending Apple here?

You think we'll all wrong because the general public who are techo-retards know better? Sheep will follow other sheep!

I've seen your blogs on other sites and you get ripped all the time.. your pathetic!

I really wanna know how much Apple is paying you? Is it worth it?

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/12/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By MechanicalTechie on 12/12/11, Rating: 0
RE: I could be wrong but...
By themaster08 on 12/12/2011 3:19:57 AM , Rating: 4
You see, that's your problem right there, my friend.

You think Apple's gadgets are the best technology. You're unable to fathom, that it may just be possible, there are people out there that genuinely prefer Samsung's Galaxy Tab, or the Asus Transformer, or another device, having tried the iPad.

Remaining ignorant to the alternatives doesn't automatically makes Apple's products better. How would you know unless you've tried? Have you actually tried an Android phone or tablet? What about a Windows Phone? No, of course you haven't. You prefer to ride on the wave of ignorance that Apple's products are better.

There are a lot of people that think like yourself (or don't think at all). You have no desire to try alternatives, because you've become so entrenched in the Apple ecosystem. Many are content with their iPad, or iPhone, and that's fine, but to say they're the best on the pure basis of your own ignorance and Apple's popularity is absurd. By your logic, Windows is a far superior OS to OS X.

You're clsed minded and irrational. You're unable to accept any constructive criticism towards Apple. You're unable to see how, for some people, other products may have more value. You scorn at the alternatives having never even tried them, as you did with the Asus Transformer Prime. You're unable to debate logically because of your bias. You're a troll and nothing more.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By hexxthalion on 12/12/2011 12:17:28 PM , Rating: 2
it must really hurt you not be part of it. get over it, get a mac and smile

RE: I could be wrong but...
By SilentBobDC on 12/12/2011 8:49:04 AM , Rating: 1
Also interesting is the fact that many people have to sign an NDA to get a product replaced. We've seen cases of this cited here and other places with the exploding/burning iPhones. Hey, want that replaced, just don't tell anyone it broke and we'll hook you up, a very cheap tactic. Also, I've yet to see an android phone with a broken screen as they mainly use gorilla glass to enhance durability. I've seen no less than 10 patients with broken iPhone screens. My 1st gen droid has been dropped onto tile with no ill effects and to prove a point I've even whacked the screen with a metal graston tool to prove its durability. People with iPhones FREAK when I do that, they're afraid to sneeze on their phone as they know how fragile the screens are.

Don't think there's a difference in designed durability. Watch this... please say its special effects:

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/12/2011 10:10:50 AM , Rating: 1
Also interesting is the fact that many people have to sign an NDA to get a product replaced. We've seen cases of this cited here and other places with the exploding/burning iPhones.

Silly paranoid conspiracy theory nonsense. Show me some evidence to back that up.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Pirks on 12/12/2011 4:19:40 PM , Rating: 2
Well, Tony, looks like your old BS about MS products being arcane and not liked by general public are getting even more stale and ridiculous, as there are fresh news about MS selling 1 million Xboxes in ONE WEEK, that should plug your "MS is a pain for general consumer" mantra forever now, don't you agree Tony? ;))

RE: I could be wrong but...
By its tom hanks on 12/11/2011 10:21:30 AM , Rating: 2
that's why Apple's sales keep doubling year after year. I suppose Apple fans must just breed quickly :)

ya too bad their market share can't say that same, perhaps fans of real tech company's breed faster :)

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Pirks on 12/12/2011 1:53:55 PM , Rating: 2
their market share can't say that same
Market share is less important than profits. MS has like 100% market share on desktop PCs but their revenue and profits are smaller. Think about it.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By testerguy on 12/11/2011 8:00:34 AM , Rating: 1
But when someone can make a similar product and sell it for half the price, then that just means that Apple is charging twice as much as they should for the same product

Well lets not get carried away.

The product Samsung came up with is vastly, vastly inferior, so comparing prices is ridiculous anyway. Lets make that very clear.

But even if it wasn't, you miss the point. A lot of the cost associated with products is the R&D - the design, the engineering - all of which are taken out if you 'copy' the work of others. That's why there exist such concept as patents and copyright. Samsung blatantly copied Apples work and, of course, makes far less profit because they can't appeal to customers in any other way - but much of that cost reduction came because they basically ripped off existing designs, instead of investing in some of their own innovative ideas.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By BZDTemp on 12/11/2011 8:58:28 AM , Rating: 2
Saying the pad from Samsung is vastly inferior is getting carried away.

As for Samsung copying vs. Apple doing R&D that is fun to hear considering the statements made by Apple in the past regarding how to steal ideas and that Apple is shamelessly doing so (if you you need to be reminded ).

I used to like Apple but Apple has become as bad as Microsoft if not worse :-(

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Helbore on 12/12/2011 5:42:05 AM , Rating: 3
How much money do you think it cost Apple's R&D department in order to decide the iPad should be a rectangle with a border?

Apple did not invent or manufacture the LCD displays in the iPad.

Apple did not invent the ARM architecture that runs the guts of the iPad.

They didn't invent the cellular or wifi radios that give it network connectivity.

They made iOS and that's it (and even that is just based on BSD, which they didn't invent, either). Samsung haven't ripped off iOS, because if you look at the Galaxy Tab, it's interface is nothing like iOS.

What people fail to understand about the tablet market is that Apple didn't magically invent a product that reinvigorated a stagnant market. IT was simply that large touchscreens were always too expensive and x86 processors were too power-hungry. Apple simply released a tablet when the associated technologies (ARM SoCs, NAND flash, large capacitive touchscreens) were at an affordable level to make a tablet with. IF they tried several year prior, they'd have a tablet like all the others on the market at the time.

The companies responsible for the innovation are those who develop and build the SoCs (people like Ti, Qualcomm, etc) and flash technologies (like Intel, Micron, Samsung, etc). Apple's hardware R&D consisted of choosing what bits that other people made should go into their device - but that should be no more patentable than me deciding to put my clothes in a drawer that is the right size to fit them in.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By ati666 on 12/12/2011 10:10:31 AM , Rating: 2
RE: I could be wrong but...
By Paj on 12/11/2011 8:10:56 AM , Rating: 1
You could say that Apple 'copied' existing tablets, used their undeniable marketing nous and made a successful product. But it would be incorrect to say that they 'invented' tablets.

You could also say that the ipad design looks suspiciously like a samsung digital photoframe from 2006 - even before the iphone came out - and that samsung were just continuing that design for their tablets.

Apple does not have a long history of product innovation - They have had just as much failure as they have success. Remember the Pippin? The Newton? The Mac Mini? Dismal failures.

But no one remembers them like they remember Vista, and this has been Apple's towering strength over it's competitors. They have almost godlike PR and marketing. They have the strongest brand in the world. With that, you can make people believe anything they want.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By nikon133 on 12/12/2011 2:56:42 PM , Rating: 1
I can see it now:

Beware the... iPadhone!!! (iPhonad?)

But seriously. I don't think iPad is that original at all - it is nothing but amalgam of iPod, Palm PDAs, well Apple Newton of course. The only thing Apple did right was timing - they picked perfect moment when technology allowed for (reasonably) affordable big touch screens and SoC capable of providing enough muscle.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By DkFFIV on 12/10/2011 6:20:23 AM , Rating: 5
Replace Apple with Justin Beiber and tech company with musician. Does that change the value you place on public opinion?

RE: I could be wrong but...
By MechanicalTechie on 12/10/2011 7:56:57 AM , Rating: 4
Yo Apple troll boy.. listen to what people are saying!

Popularity does not exonerated the underhanded and morally corrupt actions of your employer!

How much is Apple paying you to troll these sites?

RE: I could be wrong but...
By ati666 on 12/10/2011 8:02:18 AM , Rating: 2
"by Tony Swash on December 10, 2011 at 5:15 AM

All I am trying to do is point out that those that actively dislike, even hate, Apple are a minority. A small but vocal minority that seem to have convinced themselves that their minority views are somehow representative of the general public view of Apple. They are not. Generally Apple and it's products are very, very popular, hence Apple's growth to become the largest and most influential tech company on the planet. Apple's success and popularity may irritae you, it be inexplicable to you, but to deny it, to try to convince yourselves that your minority views are somehow the majority view, is delusional.

How and why Apple are so astonishingly succesful is actually a very interesting question for anyone interested in the technology business. Believing comforting but imaginary things, like that Apple are unpopular, means that that interesting question is obscured, that reality is obscured, and all I try to do is fairly gently remind people every so often about the real world. Sorry if it offends."

Well read this

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/10/2011 1:13:26 PM , Rating: 1
You are blind to the real world...

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Gio6518 on 12/10/2011 12:45:29 PM , Rating: 3
I presume you are not counting the hundreds of millions of people who will be buying Apple products in the next year....

if that being true, it's sad they can't be in the number one spot, Phones are in 4th place with Samsung being number one...and HP being #1 in PC sales...and soon with the growing popularity of Android tablets, Apple will also fall behind in that segment...

All I am trying to do is point out that those that actively dislike, even hate, Apple are a minority

Apple is popular, but it's popularity is dwarfed by the people that can't stand it.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By Gio6518 on 12/10/2011 2:51:38 PM , Rating: 3
Its called marketshare...Apple computers 6% iPhones 22% iPads quickly shrinking now down to 66%, that is reality not a cherry picked group in which 1 person accounts for 1 million people.

your under the false assumption that I hate Apple...Apple stock has made me alot of money, but thats because I bank on the Apple cultists like yourself that have no grip on reality and will buy every new device when it comes out...LOL

RE: I could be wrong but...
By testerguy on 12/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: I could be wrong but...
By Gio6518 on 12/11/2011 8:40:19 AM , Rating: 3
The 22% you mention - fails to mention that (except for Q3 of this year just before the new iphone launch) that the iPhone has the BIGGEST share of the market of ANY smartphone.

Hmmmmm lets check


but you did prove my point, you buy Apple products because you believe it makes you feel special, that you might be intelligent, or rich, or popular if you buy it. Thats what Apple is all about mass manipulation, and you bought into it hook, line, and sinker.
and the rest of your comment is just to stupid to reply to...

RE: I could be wrong but...
By ati666 on 12/11/2011 9:09:41 AM , Rating: 2
by testerguy on December 11, 2011 at 8:12 AM The PC market of 6% is not the market being discussed really, and it's not the market in which Apple have the most success. The 22% you mention - fails to mention that (except for Q3 of this year just before the new iphone launch) that the iPhone has the BIGGEST share of the market of ANY smartphone. To quote a figure of 66% of an entire market as profitable as the tablet market in argument against a companies market share, is ridiculous. Finally - your idiocy surfaces in your analysis of who buys Apple products. iPhone users, are, for example, more intelligent, more qualified, and more successful than Android users, as various studies have confirmed. The people I know who have iPhones are people who simply wanted to buy the best product in the market. They don't rush to buy every new model, and they don't buy anything unless they regard it as the best. Now that's the majority - your naivety leads you to assume that the tiny minority of Apple 'Cultists' represent the people who are buying. The people who buy Android usually do so because they are on a lower budget, usually because they are in lower paid jobs and/or are kids. That's what the studies on ALL numbers show - they aren't just some stupid opinion of a guy who claims to own shares in a company without even understanding the demographics of its market.

Your saying that the majority buy apple and the people who buy apple are rich.So what you are saying is that the majority of people around the world are filthy-rich, and only the minority are poor or just kids. So then why do we have people dying of starvation around the world and specially in Africa.

This just shows how arrogant and naive you are. And people like you make rest of us apple users look stupid. Thanks a lot m*ron.

RE: I could be wrong but...
By Tony Swash on 12/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: I could be wrong but...
By masamasa on 12/12/2011 12:33:07 PM , Rating: 1
"What really peeves you is that you hate Apple and the rest of the world doesn't."

Sure he hates it. Nobody loves a bunch of greedy, monopolistic bastards hellbent on attacking the competition with frivolous lawsuits.

With that said, Apple does have some interesting innovation, but it's highly overrated. After recently spending a fair amount of time giving the new iMac a try, I can't say I was all that impressed. There were some cool and some useful features and a lot of gimmicks like the bouncing icon menu, but at the end of the day I felt suffocated by a lack of choice and the spoon fed, follow in my footsteps o/s.

At the end of the day the best thing for the consumer is choice and Apple is hellbent on preventing that so they will never win this battle. Innovation and freedom of choice for the consumer will always win in the end.

I was thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab
By ShaolinSoccer on 12/10/2011 10:02:20 AM , Rating: 2
But then I found out about Sony's Tablet S sale which seems kinda nice so I'm torn between the two. Anyone happen to know when the Sony sale ends?

I had my eye on getting an Acer 10.1" tablet from Best Buy for $229 but it has been sold out all this time.

By Gio6518 on 12/10/2011 12:58:26 PM , Rating: 2
Well the Sony price looks attractive, but still pretty much full price, they just try to make it look cheaper by knocking down the price of the tab but your paying full price for the accessories (some of which you might not want).

I believe (don't quote me) stock is gone because that model is discontinued (A500) in lieu of the upcoming A700, with the Tegra 3 CPU. I do believe they're releasing an A501 as a midrange device.

Personally I'd get on the waiting list for the ASUS Transformer prime, and get some quad core goodness.

RE: I was thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab
By Gio6518 on 12/10/2011 1:13:45 PM , Rating: 2
Are you sure they're sold out according to tony android tablets don't sell, oh wait that's only in his demented little world

RE: I was thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab
By Tony Swash on 12/10/11, Rating: -1
By karlostomy on 12/11/2011 9:50:12 PM , Rating: 2
Tony Swash,

I just have to shake my head when I read your comments.
Occasionally, you offer a nugget of truth and rationality in your debate, however, predominantly you obfuscate the real issues with blatant Macintosh fanboyism.

Ever thought of letting it go?
I sincerely hope you are getting paid, because if not, you are embarrassing yourself.

PCs trounce Macs by a mile in terms of value and real world useability. That's a no-brainer.

Android is fast outrunning the iphone monopoly, now that the Apple lawsuits are justifiably getting thrown out of court.

Sure, Ipad sales are good, but for how long?
In the absence of deplorable Macintosh litigation and abuse of IP laws, plenty of evidence exists that Macs will lose market share in this segment as well.

Following on from the established trend, I predict as soon as the lawsuits against competing Tablets are also thrown out of the courts, we will likely see a sharp reversal in ipad sales, too.

How very weird that you used a quote by Aldous Huxley in a predictably blind appeal to authority. Wasn't Huxley the same guy that wrote science fiction stories and was well known to have indulged in the use of psychedelics?

Not impressive, at all, Tony.
Sorry to be so brutally patronizing, but you really need to lift your game, good Sir.

By ati666 on 12/12/2011 9:48:31 AM , Rating: 1
Samsung breaks record with 300 million mobile phone sales

Read more:

By ShaolinSoccer on 12/11/2011 1:50:11 PM , Rating: 2
I tried clicking on my own links that I pasted and they lead to another website. I guess Dailytech changed the links? Oh well...

Apple more desperate when android outsells them.
By Magnus909 on 12/9/2011 8:32:10 PM , Rating: 2
Apple will become more and more desperate now that they see that they have lost or will be losing to Android on all planes.

They are already outsold by Android in the phone space where android is several times bigger.

And I think it is just a question of time before Android also will outsell Apple in the tablet space, now that ICS has been launched (substituting the flawed Honeycomb for tablets).

By coldpower27 on 12/10/2011 10:32:25 AM , Rating: 2
That would make sense as Apple is still selling the iPhone 3GS as their lowest iOS phone for $375...

Android phones can go really cheap, cheap in enough in fact that some are only $100 or so..

By testerguy on 12/11/2011 8:15:05 AM , Rating: 2
To compare 'Apple' to 'Android' is ridiculously stupid anyway.

Android is a collection of, however many manufacturers. All of whom, have to sell their phones at low prices to compete with each other, as there is very little other way to differentiate themselves. Then add to that fact they have to pay money to Google and to Microsoft, they make hardly any money.

Finally, split the combined profits of Android between the 20-odd Android manufacturers, and you realise how little a slice of the pie they each really have.

By jRaskell on 12/12/2011 10:24:46 AM , Rating: 2
What I find completely and utterly ironic is the fact that the Android situation is good for the customer. Competition is GOOD. Try to comprehend that.

If Apple had their way, there would be no competition. Only Apple. You would have no choice, only what Apple offers you. That certainly would be excellent for Apple, but if you believe such a scenario would be good for the customer, well... I can't think of a single rational response to such a completely irrational perspective.

Oh darn....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/10/2011 5:10:20 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Oh darn....
By testerguy on 12/11/2011 8:16:30 AM , Rating: 2
So when it happens TO Apple, it's their failure.

When they defend their own IP, it's their fault?

Wake up.

RE: Oh darn....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/11/2011 11:57:16 AM , Rating: 1
No, it's you who needs to wake up, they are getting a taste of their own medicine. I suppose if Apple hadn't started these ridiculous lawsuits, this wouldn't have happened. It's only going to start getting worse from here on out for Apple IMO.

RE: Oh darn....
By retrospooty on 12/12/2011 7:30:49 AM , Rating: 2
Defend thier own IP LOL!

Apple is suing for vague concepts. Its not like they invented the smartphone. All they were is first to market with a multitouch UI... yes it was great, yes it made smartphones alot funner to use. That was a great thing, now let the competition begin.

If you want to say "Apple is being copied", then take it back to the root. Apple "copied" the whole mobile phone idea, as well as putting and OS and apps on a phone from Palm/Handspring. All companies do this. The entire industry builds off ideas of others. It always has, as all industries always have. Its as if to say, Toyota, GM, BMW and Honda shouldnt be allowed to make cars because they all copy Ford. Specifically Appl's suits are as if Ford sued GM because they have cupholders and mudflaps on their pick up trucks. Petty and irrelevant.

Justice Annabelle Bennett
By pwnsweet on 12/9/2011 7:21:29 PM , Rating: 2
It's amazing that a high court judge, Justice Annabelle Bennett, could be so incompetent. I thought safeguards were in place to prevent stupid people from becoming a judge in Australia...

RE: Justice Annabelle Bennett
By Etsp on 12/9/2011 7:29:59 PM , Rating: 5
Whenever someone builds a system that is foolproof, the universe creates a better fool.

RE: Justice Annabelle Bennett
By Wilcomhs on 12/9/11, Rating: -1
Biased, as usual
By testerguy on 12/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: Biased, as usual
By ati666 on 12/11/2011 9:30:25 AM , Rating: 2
Now I am definitely convinced that you are an Apple employee.

RE: Biased, as usual
By Tony Swash on 12/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: Biased, as usual
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/11/2011 11:49:12 AM , Rating: 2
We know you are a nitwit...

RE: Biased, as usual
By ati666 on 12/12/2011 9:17:15 AM , Rating: 1
looks like I am right after all..

RE: Biased, as usual
By jRaskell on 12/12/2011 10:21:08 AM , Rating: 2
The only reason this became a legal case at all was because Samsung blatantly ripped off the whole line of Apple products, from the iPod to the iPhone to the iPad. Deny it as you will, but that is what happened - and some funny evidence of this is the Samsung lawyers being unable to determine which was which.

So what you're saying is that judges all across the world, excluding Germany, have been wrong in their decisions against Apple. That Apple really is a victim here and the world is completely against it's success as a Tech company? Does Samsung and Google just have everybody in their pockets? If Apple really is the tech giant that everybody loves, then why all the failures in government courts across the world? Seems to me the only people that would believe that Apple has been grossly wronged in such a fashion would be Apple fanboys.

spelling and grammar...
By ranran on 12/11/2011 10:52:50 AM , Rating: 2
"Australian shoppers may finally themselves scratching their heads in dumbfoundment when they are greeted by the gourgeous display of Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. "

Ummm... can we spend just a little more time checking over our grammer and spelling, please? This sentence is just atrocious....

RE: spelling and grammar...
By DeluxeTea on 12/11/2011 9:53:00 PM , Rating: 2
Ummm... can we spend just a little more time checking over our grammer and spelling , please? This sentence is just atrocious....

That's rich.

By ProZach on 12/9/2011 7:44:21 PM , Rating: 2
Apple compete on the free market? Must be their worst nightmare. They made so much effort to skew the market by banning products.

It would be better if they shied away from their Jobsian beliefs and started making more interesting (and maybe more affordable) products. But that depends on the choice to be a grown-up instead of just saying, "Mmm-ine!! My market! All mine!"

Proofreading is a dead art
By waynet2 on 12/10/2011 5:16:03 PM , Rating: 2
A spell checker is no replacement for a good proofread.

Phrase: "finally themselves scratching their heads"

Translation: " find themselves scratching their heads"

Phrase: "gourgeous"

Translation: " gorgeous "

Motorola vs Apple
By ati666 on 12/12/2011 9:37:47 AM , Rating: 2
read this one, another infringement by Apple...

By masamasa on 12/12/2011 12:21:17 PM , Rating: 2 About time.

"Apple bitterly refused to comment on the defeat."

“Then they pop up and say ‘Hello, surprise! Give us your money or we will shut you down!' Screw them. Seriously, screw them. You can quote me on that.” -- Newegg Chief Legal Officer Lee Cheng referencing patent trolls

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