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The alleged image of "Atlantis" in Google Earth's ocean floor maps  (Source: Google Earth)

A British engineer discovered the supposed image of Atlantis, which is located off Africa's coast. Google offered a logical explanation for the seemingly manmade lines, but that isn't stopping some from believing.  (Source: The Sun)
Take this one with a grain of salt, but researchers claim to have found Atlantis off the coast of Africa

Last week Google Earth, which has recently turned its mapping efforts to imaging the ocean floor, created quite a stir, when someone noticed an unusual image on the ocean floor off the coast of Africa.  The blurry image shows a rectangle the size of a small state made up of seemingly perfect straight lines.  More lines crisscross the inside of the rectangle like streets.

The site, located in the Madeira Abyssal Plane, is being hailed by some as being possibly the fabled city of Atlantis.  It was first discovered by a British aeronautical engineer Bernie Bamford.  He states, "It looks like an aerial map of Milton Keynes. It must be man-made."

Google states that the lines are sonar lines based on its imaging techniques, though it could not explain why they stopped or started or featured gaps.  Stated a spokesperson, "Bathymetric (or sea floor terrain) data is often collected from boats using sonar to take measurements of the sea floor.  The lines reflect the path of the boat as it gathers the data. The fact that there are blank spots between each of these lines is a sign of how little we really know about the world’s oceans."

Based on Google's explanation, a possible alternative is that there are deep trenches in the area, which prevented the sonar from escaping.

However, some oceanographers, geophysicists, and other researchers aren't accepting Google's explanation and insist the image might be the long lost city of Atlantis, a staple of Greek mythology.  They point out that the location in Google Earth closely echoes where Greek philosopher Plato claimed Atlantis to be located.  Plato had said that Atlantis was 620 miles of Africa's coast, past the Canary Islands.  He wrote that the land was home to advanced civilization before earthquake and floods sunk it into the sea around 9,700BC — nearly 12,000 years ago.

Dr Charles Orser, curator of historical archaeology at New York State University says that the discovery is "fascinating".  He states, "The site is one of the most prominent places for the proposed location of Atlantis, as described by Plato. Even if it turns out to be geographical, this definitely deserves a closer look."

Given the enthusiasm it seems likely that some will investigate the site further.  However, for now the so-called discovery still seems a questionable one at best.  It does, however, provide Google's ocean mapping efforts with some nice publicity.





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Simple way to figure it out...
By Denithor on 2/23/2009 8:53:05 AM , Rating: 3
Dive! Dive!




RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By Lord 666 on 2/23/2009 9:22:13 AM , Rating: 3
RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By rudy on 2/23/2009 11:23:12 AM , Rating: 5
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.072754,-...

Here is another more massive civilization.


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By xii on 2/23/2009 11:40:34 AM , Rating: 2
lol hahahaha, nice one


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By monomer on 2/23/2009 11:57:28 AM , Rating: 5
That's the lost civilization of Ireland from the time before they invented alcohol.


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By danrien on 2/23/2009 2:05:25 PM , Rating: 2
talk about being a "soak"


By CollegeTechGuy on 2/25/2009 10:24:29 AM , Rating: 2
lol, is that Family Guy or Futurama?


By FaceMaster on 2/24/2009 9:35:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.072754,-... Here is another more massive civilization.


I knew it. Pesky Irish.


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By rubyxc7 on 2/25/2009 12:46:03 PM , Rating: 3
RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By Kogan on 2/23/2009 11:32:04 AM , Rating: 2
Due to the scale and location of this grid (partially in mountains and not on a submerged island), it is unlikely to be anything man-made. Though of course we can always take more photos of the area to verify :)

What I find interesting is the submerged island on the left side of this picture. This could have very well been above water several thousand years ago, and is large enough to support a small civilization. Anyone have more information on what this is?


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By Lord 666 on 2/23/2009 11:39:20 AM , Rating: 3
I was actually thinking that there was a road or something between the little island on the right. It appears to be a little diagonal line that runs to Madeira from "Atlantis" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By menace on 2/23/2009 5:37:06 PM , Rating: 5
If you actually measure the "blocks" are 10-20 miles wide and the "roads" are a mile wide. Maybe LA can solve it's traffic problems by this model. 500 lane freeways FTW!


By mindless1 on 2/23/2009 6:47:49 PM , Rating: 2
If you have elevated areas and others sinking into the sea, how about a massive river instead of a road?


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By Ruizit0 on 2/23/2009 10:33:49 PM , Rating: 1
As A Portuguese, I Can't Understand Why Spain Is Shown In The Map. If Those Are Portuguese Waters, Then PORTUGAL Should Appear In The Map.


RE: Simple way to figure it out...
By teldar on 2/24/2009 7:22:19 PM , Rating: 3
I would say the waters are Moroccan. Not Portugese. And Portugal IS shown on the map.


By majorpain on 2/27/2009 7:57:21 AM , Rating: 2
Portugal is shown on the map and tagged as Spain...
And im pretty sure those are inside the portuguese waters: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum...


LOST
By Krashnicki on 2/23/2009 8:56:00 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder if JJ Abrams is gonna write Google Maps into LOST :)




RE: LOST
By ice456789 on 2/23/09, Rating: 0
RE: LOST
By Dreifort on 2/23/2009 10:15:22 AM , Rating: 2
there were not the only ones "lost" on the island. A transport plane carrying animals from NY also crashed on that island.

Rumor has it the animals are thought to be "New York giants".


RE: LOST
By TheDoc9 on 2/23/2009 10:21:47 AM , Rating: 1
I made it through the first season. After the guy in the underground bunker riding a bike and resetting the timer I'd had enough.


RE: LOST
By PhoenixKnight on 2/23/2009 1:40:52 PM , Rating: 3
Now they're traveling back and forth through time, against their control.

...

No, seriously. I'm not kidding.


RE: LOST
By The Sly Syl on 2/23/2009 2:04:56 PM , Rating: 5
The monster is some sort of cloud thingy and the best explanation we've had so far is that it is a "defense system" guarding a temple hidden deep within the island. It also apparently can read memories (or similar).

The polar bear was explained as one of the variety of tests the Dharma Initiative was conducting on the island. (A group of researchers who lived on the island already; and had been there for nearly 30 years). The islands strange properties lead them to see if they could adapt polar bears to a warmer climate among many other far more interesting research.

This season of LOST has been absolutely spectacular.


RE: LOST
By psyph3r on 2/23/2009 6:24:57 PM , Rating: 2
You sir have severely missed out. I thought the first season was rather cheesy and dumb. However, it has blossomed into an amazing show.


RE: LOST
By meepstone on 2/25/2009 2:07:13 PM , Rating: 2
Lost never had any appeal to me. If they cant entice you from the beginning then they kinda messed up.

sidenote: 24 is the best show!


RE: LOST
By Azsen on 2/27/2009 5:30:26 PM , Rating: 2
Don't forget Stargate SG-1 the longest running Sci-Fi show. Or Atlantis. Or Battlestar Gallactica. Or Prison Break!


RE: LOST
By Spuke on 2/27/2009 6:45:34 PM , Rating: 2
And John Locke was killed off the island but showed up back on the island back in the 70's or whatever. Crazy TV show. Reminds me of a quote from one of those old Foghorn Leghorn cartoons, "I'd better not look, I just might be in there".


i found atlantis
By fadimo305 on 2/23/09, Rating: 0
RE: i found atlantis
By Dreifort on 2/23/2009 10:24:51 AM , Rating: 3
uh-oh*

*Repeat that line 40x with 10 different ppl. Must have watched Sealab 2021 to understand this.


RE: i found atlantis
By Lifted on 2/23/2009 11:34:20 AM , Rating: 2
I'd love to know who the idiot scientists are that actually think this is Atlantis. The size of this "city" is 2x the state of Rhode Island. Those roads or walls or whatever you would like to call them are miles and miles wide. I can't believe this is even considered news.


RE: i found atlantis
By PrinceGaz on 2/23/2009 3:27:35 PM , Rating: 2
But they could be major irrigation trenches to support a lot of intensive farmland near the city itself. Large cities need much larger areas of farmland to support them (usually on plains or grassland). If the sonar map had more detail, they might find ancient mines in the more hilly terrain to the west as they would have been needed to icrease the city's production per turn so they could make full use of their advanced technology research (for the era).


RE: i found atlantis
By Kibbles on 2/23/2009 5:23:11 PM , Rating: 5
Atlantis is a city of magic and super technology! Those are walls for their behemoth robotic gnomes to patrol on. You need big walls to keep all of humanity out.
They obviously failed since Plato got in, broke their waterchip and sank the whole city.


RE: i found atlantis
By grandpope on 2/24/2009 11:18:42 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
behemoth robotic gnomes

Isnt this an oxymoron?


Hogwash
By Spookster on 2/23/2009 9:06:43 AM , Rating: 5
Everyone knows that the Dr. Beckett clone crash landed Atlantis in San Francisco bay in the series finale.




RE: Hogwash
By FITCamaro on 2/23/2009 11:01:22 AM , Rating: 2
Honestly it was a bit disappointing for an ending. Anyone know if they plan to actually end the show with a direct to DVD movie like they did with SG-1?


RE: Hogwash
By Tsuwamono on 2/23/2009 11:19:11 AM , Rating: 2
they do. end of this year


RE: Hogwash
By StevoLincolnite on 2/23/2009 12:50:25 PM , Rating: 2
Atlantis isn't ending, it's been stated the series will live-on in a series of Direct to DVD movies very much like StarGat SG1.


RE: Hogwash
By AlexWade on 2/23/2009 7:50:47 PM , Rating: 2
Pfft. I don't believe in any lost city of Atlantis. But I do believe in the lost city of Atlanta.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deep_South_(Futur...


Atlantis?
By SlipDizzy on 2/23/2009 9:56:57 AM , Rating: 5
This looks more like Rapture to me. Someone get down there and save the Little Sisters!




RE: Atlantis?
By Cerberus90 on 2/23/2009 10:46:13 AM , Rating: 2
That would be cool. :D


RE: Atlantis?
By ipay on 2/23/2009 5:15:03 PM , Rating: 4
You forgot to say "would you kindly?"


RE: Atlantis?
By Dreifort on 2/24/2009 2:02:13 PM , Rating: 2
no Sleestacks?


Other odd lines, support Google's theory
By dcommins on 2/23/2009 9:56:24 AM , Rating: 2
There are other odd lines seen on the ocean floor that support the sonar theory from Google. Take a look in the Barentsz Sea north of Russia at about Lat 74.020989" Lon 40.811919". While not a grid, they are definitely strange and look like they could be some kind of artifacting from ships taking depth readings.




By Cerberus90 on 2/23/2009 10:45:55 AM , Rating: 5
Theres a large portion just off ireland thats lots of crossing lines too.

And just east of where the supposed Atlantis is, is some more hatched lines.

I still think it would be worth invetigating, could turn out to be something completly unexpected, and help us better understand the ocean.


Wow!
By theapparition on 2/23/2009 12:51:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Plato had said that Atlantis was 620 miles of Africa's coast, past the Canary Islands. He wrote that the land was home to advanced civilization before earthquake and floods sunk it into the sea around 9,700BC — nearly 12,000 years ago.

So Plato also projected the english system of units.
/Sarcasm

Obviously, not. Rather, that's a broad interpretation of his supposed location based on days travel.

Most current historians agree that they've pretty much found "Atlantis", as a sunken city in the Med.




RE: Wow!
By PrinceGaz on 2/23/09, Rating: -1
RE: Wow!
By HaB1971 on 2/23/2009 6:25:47 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Actually Greece uses km, and 620 miles is almost exactly 1000 km, so what Plato originally wrote (in or around 400BC which was when he lived- he must have predicted the coming of Christ and the introduction of measuring years as AD or BC) was something like:


Ermm... I will have to go with a huge NO on that one. Current day Greece uses the Metric System (crazy, weird numbers to Americans) but the ancient Greek system used measurements based on the length of body parts as was used by the Egyptians. Though the word Meter or Metre as it is correctly spelled is derived from the Greek word Metron meaning 'a measure' it does not indicate the Greeks used that measurement.

Other than Mayonnaise and lovely singing voices (thank you Captain Jack Sparrow) you can blame the French for the metre.


RE: Wow!
By Fritzr on 3/1/2009 3:23:17 PM , Rating: 2
The mile is older than the English system of measure. When the Romans arrived in Britain the mile was 1000 paces. Plato was earlier yet, but translators did what they still do today, they translated the meaurement.

Such a translation is called a conversion and allows such things as setting an electic oven to 'gas 6' a heat setting unknown in most of the world.

The translator says 620 miles. How long is a mile? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile

What was the actual distance according to Plato? To figure that out, go back to the original text, get the actual measurement and convert to your measure of choice. Nautical miles would be appropriate ;)


Don't Trust Google
By SnakeBlitzken on 2/23/2009 9:35:11 AM , Rating: 3
They're covering this up so they can claim it for themselves and tap it's secret power sources (humor intended).

Does anyone else think that the depth is a little too far for any continent to sink - even over 12000 years?




RE: Don't Trust Google
By TSS on 2/26/2009 9:50:41 AM , Rating: 2
does anyone else think you shouldn't be trying to do any mayor archelogical discoveries via google earth?


Clearly Man Made (read more)
By DKWinsor on 2/23/2009 4:20:27 PM , Rating: 2
These lines are clearly man made - but not of a city under the sea. It's a man made self fulfilling prophecy when you search for a city with sonar then come back later and say you found a city because of the lines the sonar left. These sonar lines are in the correct place for Atlantis to be because no one would search in the "wrong" place

Here's another "clearly man made" feature that took just a minute to find:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=-57.30279,-...

Also some one else posted this:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.072754,-...




RE: Clearly Man Made (read more)
By jconan on 2/24/2009 12:49:04 AM , Rating: 3
it's probably an alien/predator hideout of their underwater hunting ground...


By Bateluer on 2/23/2009 9:26:38 AM , Rating: 2
At least, thats what I read in my Atlantis books. This grid pattern, while intriguing, cannot be Atlantis . . . unless its only part of it.




By jokoufro on 2/23/2009 11:02:12 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly.

And if you follow the scale on Google this 'city' is 80 miles long and 60 miles wide, with street's approx. a mile wide or if they're all bases... who builds a wall a mile wide? Some Superior defense though.

Also the base, this village would have had to been built before the ocean was there... I don't think that portion of the ocean was every dried up.

Still mind out of the box this could be some ancient civilization created by giant he-men. At least I wish it were.


I'm fixin' to be crotchety!
By ggordonliddy on 2/23/2009 8:30:51 PM , Rating: 2
Get these d@mn Google b@stards off my (undersea) lawn!




RE: I'm fixin' to be crotchety!
By Dreifort on 2/24/2009 2:03:38 PM , Rating: 2
the ancestors of Atlantis have a lawsuit against Google for invading their privacy.


Do your homework
By halo8 on 2/23/2009 12:28:20 PM , Rating: 3
Plato said the city was in rings of land, not square like this shows. Maybe Dubai can recreate Atlantis for its next project :)




12000 years ago the Earth looked DIFFERENT!
By wingless on 2/25/2009 1:17:12 PM , Rating: 1
12,000 years ago the Earth was having one of those long cycle, seasonal ice ages we have. We have to remember that sea level was MUCH MUCH lower than it is today. Our coastlines stretched hundreds of miles further out and shallow islands today were towering mountains back then. Take another long, hard look at the Earth on Google Maps with this in mind.

In another 12,000 years imagine what all our major cities will look like when they are sitting peacefully under the ocean hundreds of miles from coastlines. Heck, that may happen in 120 years, let alone thousands.




By wingless on 2/25/2009 1:50:05 PM , Rating: 2
Here is a link talking about the end of the last ice age that occured between 18,000BC and 12,000BC.

http://www.omnimatter.com/2006/01/global_warming_....

If Atlantis was around at the end of the last ice age, they would have caught the tail end of a climate that had been stable for the previous 6000 years. The change in climate was abrubt and sea levels rose drastically within a person's lifetime.

Currently scientists are saying despite our fears of global warming, our planet is right at the cusp of going into a deep ice age. It is like a long seasonal cycle that our planet follows because of our 26,000 processional cycle. We get these periods of warm climate and cold climates like summers and winters, and fall and spring inbetween.

Atlantis was just another civilization that was geographically erased off the ever changing landscape of the world.


polar recession
By William Gaatjes on 2/28/2009 8:42:14 AM , Rating: 2
It is very possible atlantis lies under a thick sheet of ice...

I once saw a documentary where it is claimed the earth does not switch or moves it's magnetic poles. But it is the earth crust in it's whole that has moved in the past. It can also be a combination of both since it is all theory. It seems the earth crust floates and moves at a constant rate having so much momentum it is pretty stable. But some natural event like an ice age where the ice is concentrated on 1 position can make the crust wobble. Or an impact of an asteroid could also have enough energy to wobble the crust around. This way parts of the planet that where pretty hostile to live on become oases and oases become deserts or iceplains. In the past water level was a lot lower and more land was available. This is al theory mind you. Feel free to do some digging. I know i will. I want to find out if it is possible to debunk this theory with sattelite data about the magnetic poles. If not, atlantis might be to be found more south approximating antartica. There have been centuries old maps, maps with longitudinal accuracy long before we where able to do so that show there was once land on antartica. Seek for the following :

Teotihuacan
Here 10 statues have been found of people with negroid features and prominent pictures of people with Caucasian features. Search for the olmecs. Piramyd architectures and mummification. Side note : In egypt mummies, traces of plants have been found that only grow in south america for as far as we know. You have to do some more digging to verify the information on this site :

http://www.crystalinks.com/olmec.html

Tiahuanacu
The accuracy of the stones used for the buildings is enormous. And they where able to make metal parts by using melting ovens.

Maya, Inca, Olmecs, Egyptians... All of a sudden these societies suddenly gain a lot of knowledge but still seems barbaric at the same time. Why... And maybe, just maybe it was around the same time atlantis dissapeared...




RE: polar recession
By William Gaatjes on 2/28/2009 8:48:14 AM , Rating: 1
I forgot to mention 10 tons statues and Tiahuanacu is estimated to be 17000 years old. And take into account all past civilizations mention a flood, ice age , drought. And then afcourse you get wars because of food shortages. It all fit with what religous people claim when reading the bible with respect of the arc of noah. It seems the old testament was not entirely original... But that is my opinion.


By SpaceOddity85 on 2/23/2009 9:06:13 AM , Rating: 2
NORAD can't hide this one!




Scale
By zozzlhandler on 2/23/2009 10:54:15 AM , Rating: 2
While fascinating, this is unlikely to be a city of any kind - the scale is just too big, especially for an ancient city. Google's explanation is more likely (pity).




Look Closer
By jrollins006 on 2/24/2009 9:21:51 AM , Rating: 2
If you look around the nearby islands, you can see more "roads" or "walls" connecting the islands.

I think that this is a very interesting find. Maybe we can harness the power from the crystal(joking).




atlantis
By hiwatt60 on 2/28/2009 1:40:28 PM , Rating: 2
Larkin and Cynthia Jones put out a very nice website on this at www.ancientgrid.com. They were the first ones to discover this in January 2009 and not Bernie Bamford.




ATLANTIS FOUND.??
By comiccastle on 2/23/2009 8:17:35 PM , Rating: 1
It sounds like someone does NOT want the possible competition from anyone in exploring the possible location for the FABLED CITY of ATLANTIS.!! As someone else has stated..!!!! DIVE, DIVE, DIVE and EXPLORE the area.!!! What do you have to loose.. It's STUPID to NOT explore a possible location for this FABLED CITY because a CORPORATION down plays their own technology..!! It highly probable that GOOGLE does NOT want this area EXPLORED because THEY want to make money on it's DISCOVERY..!!!!!




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