quote: The problem with your point of view is that it asks me to do the impossible by proving a negative while absolving you of any responsibility of doing your due diligeance in proving that any corellation exists at all.
quote: Hypocrisy as has been seen at this "summit" only serves to reinforce the fact that the people who are making these claims do not have the best interests of the planet or its inhabitents in mind in the policy they claim is utterly urgent.
quote: ...what the hell is that supposed to mean? What would the world's climate researchers stand to gain by banding together in a global conspiracy to get people to curb harmful emissions? What would they get, if in fact anthropogenic global warming is, in fact, a total fraud as you claim? And how is it not in the "best interests of the planet or it's inhabitants" to pursue, aggressively, a solution to the already apparent symptoms of AGW?
quote: It was the world's leading climate research center on which pretty much all of the conclusions were based.
quote: And how is it not in the "best interests of the planet or it's inhabitants" to pursue, aggressively, a solution to the already apparent symptoms of AGW
quote: ...ummm, I would guess so that it would continue to be hospitable to human life? Just a guess.
quote: Sure...so we should all evolve to be plants instead of animals so we can breathe CO2? ...or is that just a dumbass idea?
quote: 1. We have CO2 data for the past 800,000 years.2. CO2 levels have naturally moved up and down over this period.3. CO2 levels are now higher than any time in the past 800,000 years.4. The rise in CO2 since the start of the industrial revolution exactly mirrors the rise in population and fossil fuel use.5. Computer modelling shows that an increase in atmospheric CO2 should result in an increase of average temperature.
quote: and why is it that some feel that they way they found the earth now is THE BEST way the earth should be forever? static and unchanging to them.
quote: There will be bad effects for some
quote: We may fail, but to not even try... Well, that is Republican.
quote: And to doctor evidence, hide other opinions and research data that disputes AGW, and to arrogantly proclaim "The Debate Is Over" on any potential man-made global warming is...well...so Democrat.
quote: One can't prove humans are the cause of global warming until it is so clear that it will be too late.
quote: Ms. Jackson dismissed the criticisms surrounding the leaked emails, dubbed "Climategate". She argued that evidence of manmade warming has been demonstrated conclusively by "decades of sound, peer-reviewed scientific data".
quote: Nothing in the e-mails undermines the scientific case that global warming is real — or that human activities are almost certainly the cause. That case is supported by multiple, robust lines of evidence, including several that are completely independent of the climate reconstructions debated in the e-mails.
quote: Wrong. You can deny the effects of human influence on the climate all you want to, but that doesn't make it go away.
quote: Irrational decision making processes make everything worse. You simply don't want to encourage people to ignore the results of the scientific method when they "don't agree" with them.
quote: The scientific method is NOT being used by most of the climate scientists you are supporting.
quote: What part of forming a theory without facts, and making up numbers and forging software models to prove that theory has anything to do with the "scientific method" ?
quote: We may not understand dowsing, but it does seem to work under some circumstances.
quote: Because it does make a difference.
quote: Ultimately, if the world's climate researchers are telling us that humans are causing climate change, due to their analysis of available evidence, I'm going to accept their analysis,
quote: since I'm not qualified to question their findings.
quote: and that the data that ALL climate researchers base their research on is tainted, forged, and bogus.
quote: so even if people are not yet convinced that the whole AGW thing is a scam, on an almost unimaginable scale, then at least they will be in good time.
quote: By the way - did you used to subscribe to the previous alarmist beliefs that were in vogue in the 70's, that we were heading for the next Ice Age?
quote: You can decide that science is a fraud if that makes you happy.
quote: Well no...but to be fair, I'd have to point out that by the end of the 70s, I was only 9 years old.
quote: Science: Another Ice Age? Monday, Jun. 24, 1974
quote: Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7° F
quote: Even putting the "climategate" people aside, the data is clear. Whether or not you choose to "believe" in that data is technically up to you
quote: I'm going to accept their analysis, since quite frankly I'm not qualified to question their findings.
quote: Humans activities emit 26 Gigatonnes of CO2 per year. That is, 26000000000 tonnes. Very significant
quote: We're arrogant bastards if we think that anything we do can affect the world to such a degree. There are FAR, FAR more powerful elements out there that are entirely out of our control.
quote: essentially unimaginable suffering in the long term...
quote: Not to mention this is not even the hottest it has ever been in history nor is the most Co2 their has ever been in the history of the planet.
quote: this Administration will not ignore science or the law any longer
quote: I always thought the EPA was an independent branch, and not part of the Executive Branch ?
quote: They may as well print the Constitution on their toilet paper
quote: "We can't expect users to use common sense. That would eliminate the need for all sorts of legislation, committees, oversight and lawyers." -- Christopher Jennings