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This may be a clue as to what to expect with the next Xbox console

Microsoft's creative director put up quite a fight in favor of always-online consoles, which is a particularly curious move -- especially on Twitter -- when the company hasn't said much about its upcoming Xbox console. 

Adam Orth, a creative director at Microsoft Studios, posted a tweet that said "Sorry, I don't get the drama around having an 'always on' console. Every device now is 'always on.' That's the world we live in. #dealwithit."



While this tweet wasn't too surprising, what transpired afterward ended up being pretty interesting. Two Twitter users -- Alex Wells (@TheonlyAlexW) and Manveer Heir (@manveerheir) -- disagreed with Orth's initial tweet, and Orth came back pretty strong. 

Here's the Twitter conversation transcribed:

Orth: I want every device to be "always on."

Wells: Off the top of my head I know 5 people who own 360's who currently have no access to the internet. They would be screwed.

Orth: Those people should definitely get with the times and get the Internet. It's awesome.

Heir: Did you learn nothing from Diablo III or SimCity? You know some people's Internet goes out right? Deal with it is a sh*tty reason.

Orth: Electricity goes out too. 
Sometimes the electricity goes out. I will not purchase a vacuum cleaner.
The mobile reception in the area I live in is spotty and unreliable. I will not buy a mobile phone. 

--

While Microsoft (or Orth) haven't made any specific mentions about how the "always-on" argument applies to the next Xbox console, this little Twitter argument may be dropping some clues. 

In December 2012, Xbox Live subscribers lost the Cloud Saved Games feature, which allows gamers to store saved games online and pick them up later on a different console if they'd like. The outage lasted anywhere from a couple of hours to a couple of days. 

Source: Kotaku



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RE: Until
By Motoman on 4/5/2013 5:26:50 PM , Rating: 3
Holy f%ck you're retarded. Who do you think the other study is referencing when they say:

quote:
Broadband adoption rates currently stand at 68.2%
Rural communities have adoption rates of around 60%
28% of all Americans do not use the Internet at all
Around 10% of Americans lack access to even the most basic broadband


Reckon that those are people who have broadband internet, but don't have computers? WTF are you smoking? Saying that "90% of people who own computers have broadband" is like saying "90% of people who own cars have spare tires in the trunk." Guess what - if you don't own a car, you have no need for a spare tire - and if you don't own a computer, you have no need for broadband internet access.


RE: Until
By laviathan05 on 4/5/2013 8:46:28 PM , Rating: 1
Are you seriously this stupid? Why do you think the studies conflict each other?

One says that 90% of Americans have access to broadband internet and roughly 68% of those Americans have it.

The other study says that approximately 80% of American households have a computer at home and of that 80%, 90% of them have broadband internet.

I can't understand your reasoning that this doesn't make sense.

Also, if you have an Xbox, PS4, Netflix account, AppleTV, SmartTV, etc. but no computer, you might want broadband internet.


RE: Until
By Motoman on 4/5/2013 10:53:26 PM , Rating: 3
You're wrong. You haven't read the articles.

The source for the 68.2% article is here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/220057/broadband_fa...

If you'd clicked on the link you'd have seen where that 68.2% comes from:

quote:
The NTIA also announced new broadband adoption information Thursday. About 68.2 percent of U.S. residents subscribe to broadband now, compared to 63.5 percent a year ago


It doesn't say that 68.2% of the 90% of Americans who have computers have broadband, as you've imagined. It says 68.2% of Americans have broadband...period. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Also, the map that *that* study is based on is clearly erroneous, likely because of traditional faults in the surveying methods - like declaring a whole zip code to be "good" if broadband is available to one household in it.

http://www.broadbandmap.gov/

That's the map, resulting from the survey that the article is based on. When I search my address, the map declares that I have access to DSL. I don't. No one within at least 1.5 miles of me does. Which is part and parcel of why I state vehemently that the estimates for the percentage of Americans that don't have broadband access are far too low - the very data they're presenting as proof is demonstrably wrong in about 5 seconds.

Also, what's the chances that someones going to have any of the services/products you listed without a computer in the house? Next to zero. So knock it off.

So...now that I've positively shown your arguments to be false, do you still want to continue making them or have you learned your lesson?


RE: Until
By laviathan05 on 4/6/2013 11:04:04 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
It doesn't say that 68.2% of the 90% of Americans who have computers have broadband, as you've imagined. It says 68.2% of Americans have broadband...period. No ifs, ands, or buts.


You're right, it doesn't say that, and neither did I. It's unbelievable how poor your reading comprehension is.

If approximately 80% of Americans have computers, and 90% of those with computers have broadband, then the result is very close to the total percentage of Americans that have broadband, which is 68%.

The point I was making was that:
A) A vast majority of all Americans have the ability to subscribe to broadband.
B) Of the people that would be most likely to want broadband (i.e., people that own computers), 90% of them have it, which goes against the original post I was replying to that implied through fake statistics that most Americans probably couldn't afford to have a broadband account even if they had access to one.

Please take your stupidity elsewhere.


RE: Until
By Motoman on 4/6/2013 12:30:58 PM , Rating: 2
Nice of you to now invent an additional 80% to throw into your morony to try to make your point.

Please just step off. You're making the internet stupider.


RE: Until
By laviathan05 on 4/6/2013 1:15:56 PM , Rating: 2
Invent the 80%? It's in the post five above this you idiot. You really do have trouble reading don't you?


RE: Until
By Motoman on 4/6/2013 2:02:06 PM , Rating: 2
"80%" doesn't exist in the articles you linked. You made that number up.


RE: Until
By laviathan05 on 4/6/2013 2:56:31 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, totally made up.

http://www.esa.doc.gov/Reports/exploring-digital-n...

I didn't make anything up. Need we keep going on?


RE: Until
By Motoman on 4/6/2013 4:32:35 PM , Rating: 2
Oh I'm sure I could keep going off and finding other previously uncited articles to prop up whatever specific point was being discussed at that time too - so we certainly could keep going on.

But I suspect there's not really any point. You're not going to accept the fact that your numbers aren't reflective of reality...so you just go on with your bad self.

The actual fact is that probably around 15% of Americans have no access to actual, functional broadband internet. Cellular wifi and satellite categorically aren't "broadband" no matter what the TV commercial tells you. Slow speeds, high latencies, and data caps preclude them from being considered as such.

You can either accept that, or you can cry more about how it can't be true. I don't care.


RE: Until
By laviathan05 on 4/7/2013 4:29:01 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, I guess we should just go with your fabricated conclusion as the be all and end all for this information. We probably should just stop running surveys, censuses, and experiments altogether and just ask you what the answer is from your anecdotal evidence. Fantastic idea.

quote:
The actual fact is that probably around 15% of Americans


Such a stupid thing to say after the argument you've been trying to make this whole time.


RE: Until
By wempa on 4/8/2013 12:48:49 PM , Rating: 2

In those articles, it doesn't say what is considered broadband. A 320K DSL connection or a satellite connection are a lot different than a 50Mb/s cable modem connection. It only says that 90% of consumers have access to some sort of broadband. I'm sure a lot of people who only have access to the slower broadband services really aren't interested in having a console gobble up unnecessary bandwidth and data while they play a single player game.


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