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  (Source: Autoblog)

Fisker Surf  (Source: Autoblog)
Surf shooting brake will join the Karma sedan

Here's a little brief note from the Frankfurt Auto Show. We've already told you plenty about the Fisker Karma range-extender hybrid. The sedan can travel for roughly 50 miles on battery power alone after which its turbocharged four-cylinder engine kicks in to keep the battery pack charged. 

Now, Fisker is showing off the shooting brake version of the Karma. The new Fisker Surf looks like the Karma from the front doors forward, but has a hatchback tacked onto the rear of the body. Like Autoblog (which broke the story on the Surf), we find that rear lines of the vehicle look quite similar to Ferrari's equally outlandish FF

This comparison isn’t lost on one Fisker executive who stated,  "It'll be like the FF but with four doors and at one-third the price."

The added bodywork and glass raises the curb weight by 77 pounds to 4,440 pounds. Likewise, maximum cargo space rises from 7.1 cubic feet to 29 feet. 

For those looking to get their hands on a Surf, the entry price will be well over $100,000.



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4,440 pounds?
By mkrech on 9/13/2011 11:04:30 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, that's half a ton more that a typical Sedan and in the range of a full size pickup.

My rough understanding of physics says that the energy used is in relation to the force required and the force required relates to the weight. Thus, it may be efficient (like a train) but still use lots of energy (like a train).

If hybrid systems add this much weight, it doesn't matter where the power comes from, electric or ICE, it is less efficient. If you want to minimize energy use then try a lighter, conventionally powered vehicle. Like say a small turbo diesel.

Or if you want an expensive "badge" for your greenie friends, buy this POS.




RE: 4,440 pounds?
By 5thofjuly on 9/13/2011 11:59:35 AM , Rating: 2
I think you're rough understanding is missing the point. They didn't set out to make the most ENERGY efficient car in the world, they set out to make a more FUEL efficient car that looked good and performed well. If your desire is for the most energy efficient car I think you're better off shopping for one of those ultralight solar powered cars. Good luck with that.


RE: 4,440 pounds?
By mkrech on 9/13/2011 12:13:25 PM , Rating: 2
Good point. But, I think they are trying to capitalize on a fad. A fuel efficient car that looks good and performs well...
a Corvette looks and performs great and gets highway mpg's in the mid to high 20's. Done and done.

just saying. ;)


RE: 4,440 pounds?
By 91TTZ on 9/13/2011 1:11:23 PM , Rating: 2
But they've admitted that electric cars still aren't ready for prime time, so they know that you're going to fill up at the pump.

Since you're getting your energy from gasoline and the car isn't energy efficient, it's not going to be very fuel efficient.

I'm sure they can throw together some ridiculous false numbers like Chevy did when they claimed that the Volt will get "230 mpg", but realistically speaking it will get nothing near that.


RE: 4,440 pounds?
By BZDTemp on 9/13/2011 12:55:15 PM , Rating: 2
You're rough understanding is forgetting about air resistance.

Weight matters when accelerating, changing direction and going up/down hills but apart from some added rolling resistance it doesn't matter at constant speed so once you near highway speed air resistance is the important one.

Also comparing with a typical sedan is wrong. Compare with a luxury one like a Merc S-class, an Aston Martin Rapide and the like.


RE: 4,440 pounds?
By 91TTZ on 9/13/2011 1:14:31 PM , Rating: 2
This car will not be very aerodynamic with the back end like that. It will create a lot of drag.


RE: 4,440 pounds?
By mkrech on 9/14/2011 6:27:01 PM , Rating: 2
Nope, not forgetting about air resistance... it's just only fractional when compared to weight. Specifically, the difference in air resistance from this car to a typical sedan is significantly less than the weight difference.


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