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Some users have experienced no issues with iOS 7.1.2 update, but for some severe problems have popped up

With iOS 8 in sight, some Apple, Inc. (AAPL) fans are hoping for sweet relief from bugs that are plaguing iOS 7.1.2.

The third update to iOS 7 rolled out last week, promising three small bug fixes, including one relatively critical one to an encryption bug in the Mail app.  Many users report downloading the update and installing it without trouble and have seen no new odd behavior post-patch.

But others are having a far different experience with iOS 7.1.2.  Some are having trouble even getting the update installed.  According to a number of users [Apple Discussions: 1, 2] both the iPad and iPhone are sometimes having difficulty installing the update.  In some cases the download reportedly won't even start, in others it starts and freezes, and in others still it completes but then freezes during the install.

All of these cases appear to have a simple fix -- the hard reset.  To do this, simply hold down the sleep and home buttons simultaneously until the Apple logo appears, indicating the device reset itself.

iOS 7.1.2
iOS 7.1.2 in working form [Image Source: Gotta Be Mobile]

While getting the update on the device may be a struggle for some, what happens next is even more of a headache.  While some users have experienced no issues, others are reporting a diverse multitude of problems with no clear update in sight.

One of our readers, Reclaimer77 reported this issue to us, writing:

I did the update for my work iPhone, and now it's completely fr**king broken.

So much for the benefits of a non-fragmented ecosystem. Instead of just some people having problems, EVERYONE is screwed...
....
I'm also completely unable to send text messages, iMessages or otherwise.

Hooray!

And mind you this was the update that was supposed to "fix" last versions messaging bugs. Awesome job Apple!

Oh and can I revert to the previous, working, version of iOS? Nope!!! Not without jailbreaking the phone. Why? Someone please explain this to me.

This iPhone has been such a g*dd**n burden to me. It's official; If you actually spend your own money on one, you're an id**t. Fact.

It turns out while not everyone appears to be affected, a significant percentage of users have been with dozens of threads in Apple Discussions (Apple's support forum) complaining of a multitude of bugs.

GottaBeMobile has done a nice job rounding up some of these problems.  Issues include:
It appears that for a significant minority of Apple's iPad and iPhone customers, life has become very stressful since the buggy patch was rolled out.  Apple saw similar complaints with its previous patch -- iOS 7.1.1 --  but there did not appear to be quite the deluge of threads there are with this update.

Nonetheless, these issues get at a bigger problem Apple has faced with iOS 7 (starting with the infamous lockscreen bug).  As it has patched iOS 7 bugs, it has created yet more problems with the patches.  The reason for this is somewhat unclear and it's rather alarming, given that the patches reportedly created issues in apps that appeared to be relatively unrelated to the patch itself.  The overwhelming theme is that Apple is struggling to fix iOS 7 without creating a fresh set of problems.

Unfortunately for Apple users, the level of effort that will be directed to fixing these issues is likely relatively low.  Right now Apple is primarily focused on finishing iOS 8, which is scheduled for a "Fall" release.

iOS 8

Currently its in its third beta (B3), but remains relatively buggy.  This might be expected given the scope of the additions (adding widgets to the Notification Center, adding a SWYPE-style keyboard, adding new family permissions, adding canned/content aware responses, etc.).  However, one must wonder whether Apple isn't headed for headaches as it adds on and tries to debug these new features, given that the base code likely has a number of unresolved bugs as well -- if iOS 7.1.2 is any indication, at least.

Again, these bugs don't affect all users, but they have affected a significant minority.

Sources: GottaBeMobile, CraveOnline, via Reclaimer77 [DailyTech]



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<3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 2:14:23 PM , Rating: 5
lol I can't believe you used that whole quote from me, swear words and all. That's awesome.

Somewhere out there, Tony has just been wheeled into a cardiac unit...




RE: <3 Jason
By ritualm on 7/8/14, Rating: 0
RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 2:28:28 PM , Rating: 5
Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of you NOT being featured in a world-wide tech article :)

What some peanut butter with all that JELLY?


RE: <3 Jason
By ritualm on 7/8/14, Rating: -1
RE: <3 Jason
RE: <3 Jason
By ritualm on 7/8/14, Rating: -1
RE: <3 Jason
By Samus on 7/8/2014 3:50:51 PM , Rating: 3
Ok ladies, settle down...


RE: <3 Jason
By EasyC on 7/8/2014 2:38:35 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Unlike you, I do not consider anyone an idiot just because they're using iOS devices.


I do. :)


RE: <3 Jason
By StevoLincolnite on 7/9/2014 7:32:16 AM , Rating: 4
I love this iOS vs Android war.
I sit back and sip my Windows Phone flavored coffee in amusement.


RE: <3 Jason
By EasyC on 7/9/2014 9:32:11 AM , Rating: 2
Funny you mention that, I'm currently testing the waters with a Lumia 1020.


RE: <3 Jason
By Adonlude on 7/10/2014 12:03:51 PM , Rating: 2
It's great to see consumers arguing over and taking pride in who you are giving your money too. It's wonderful for my stock portfolio!
-----------------------------------
Full disclosure - Adonlude has stock in Intel, Apple and ARM and ownes an iPad, iPhone, 2 PC's w/ Windows and navigates the internet and the Earth using Google.


RE: <3 Jason
By amanojaku on 7/8/2014 2:39:10 PM , Rating: 5
Actually, you're the one trolling him. And Reclaimer is being nice about it.


RE: <3 Jason
By ritualm on 7/8/14, Rating: -1
RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 2:55:13 PM , Rating: 4
Ahahaha oh man, please don't stop. No seriously, keep going. You're showing more ass than a pornstar here.


RE: <3 Jason
By StevoLincolnite on 7/9/2014 7:27:20 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
You're showing more ass than a pornstar here.


All I saw was poorly assembled text. :(

It should be illegal to get a grown man's hopes up.


RE: <3 Jason
By amanojaku on 7/8/2014 3:02:28 PM , Rating: 3
I understand that, as I've had some serious disagreements with Reclaimer over the years. I agree that he has a superiority complex, and that's the reason he's so difficult to reason with. That said, he doesn't troll, he just says what he believes, no matter how offensive.

Thing is, YOU attacked HIM. Uncharacteristically, he didn't rise to the bait (he is REALLY stoked on being mentioned in the article). Whatever Reclaimer said in the past, whether it was five years or five minutes ago, you were just being childish. There was no way you were attempting a constructive conversation with that post.


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 3:09:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I agree that he has a superiority complex


What? No way. That's just a defense mechanism. Truthfully I feel inferior in a lot of ways. With some self-loathing thrown into the mix.

What do you expect? I'm a child of divorce, give me a break :)

quote:
that's the reason he's so difficult to reason with.


Really? Hmmmm.... I feel I'm totally easy to reason with, you just have to agree with me and see things my way...


RE: <3 Jason
By W00dmann on 7/8/14, Rating: -1
RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 3:40:04 PM , Rating: 2
Who are you again?


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 3:46:34 PM , Rating: 2
I mean besides a bad liar, because we know you are one. How can you explain that you claim to "skip" over all my posts, yet here you are replying to one?

Anyway I think we should get off of how epic I am, and back to how crappy Apple and their software is.


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/8/2014 6:34:31 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Anyway I think we should get off of how epic I am


Ho my freaking god ...
http://fisticuffsandshenanigans.files.wordpress.co...

You are a complete and utter butthead, reclaimer but I do agree with you about the total failure of Apple.

I mean:

They have 100% control over the hardware their OS is installed on.

They have 100% control over what hardware their software is needs to support.


Yet still they can put out a release that breaks. That is freaking sad in the extreme.

At least Android can be forgiven because it is expected to work on just about everything. Sometimes incompatibilities can slip in for hardware that was not well supported or dropped. What is Apple's excuse?

<waits> *crickets*


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 3:16:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That said, he doesn't troll, he just says what he believes, no matter how offensive.


And thank you for this, honestly.


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/8/2014 6:44:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
... I've had some serious disagreements with Reclaimer over the years.

I think most of us have. It comes with posting on DT ;)
quote:
I agree that he has a superiority complex, and that's the reason he's so difficult to reason with. That said, he doesn't troll, he just says what he believes, no matter how offensive.

I think just like how this release of iOS is broke for some iPhone users, the filter between Reclaimer's brain and what his fingers type is kinda broke too.

We take it in stride and sometimes have some fun with it :D


RE: <3 Jason
By nikon133 on 7/8/2014 4:59:27 PM , Rating: 2
He is a bit of Android fanatic, but he is keeping quite a good posture in this tread, I must admit.

Interesting problem, this one. I gave up on iPhone last October and moved to WP, but my wife decided to keep on with new iPhone 5s. She hasn't complained about any problems, beside her phone being frozen one of the mornings last week, where she started heavy-duty panicking that the phone is dead and she hasn't backed it up for more than a week. Soft reset sorted problem, no data loss. She did iOS update after that - I think - and it seems to be OK, so far (and she does txt and iMessage a lot. A LOT).


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/8/2014 5:51:10 PM , Rating: 3
"He is a bit of Android fanatic, but he is keeping quite a good posture in this tread, I must admit"

LOL, yes he is. We need to get him this shirt.

http://phandroid.com/2014/07/07/as-seen-at-google-...


RE: <3 Jason
By tonyswash on 7/8/2014 6:05:05 PM , Rating: 2
Have you been watching the World Cup tonight!

Germany 7 Brazil 1 !!!!!


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/8/2014 6:06:39 PM , Rating: 2
Wholly crap.

But no, its still day where I am and a workday at that.


RE: <3 Jason
By tonyswash on 7/8/2014 6:20:10 PM , Rating: 2
The Germans took them apart. The Brazilian team and supporters were in tears by the end. It really was humiliation. Watch the game when you can, it will go down in history.


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 2:36:58 PM , Rating: 2
This is turning into a big thing... LOL.

http://sadbrazilians.tumblr.com/


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 12:06:32 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not a big soccer person (I'm American, therefore soccer bores me), but the flaw in World Cup is you can advance and get your way into the finals by playing for ties and not actually winning.

Brazil clearly shouldn't have even been in that game (or "match"). They were not fit to be in the final at all. As I understand it, they were outclassed in every area.

Hell I didn't even think it was possible to give up 7 goals in soccer...just..wtf.

I'm just waiting for the NFL season to start. Which has a real playoff system, and you actually have to be GOOD to make it to the final game.


RE: <3 Jason
By nikon133 on 7/9/2014 9:02:04 PM , Rating: 2
Shame, because US played very nice football/soccer on this world cup. Hearty, clean, great sportsmanship, good skill, excellent effort all together. I found them one of more enjoyable teams to watch.


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/14, Rating: 0
RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/8/2014 6:39:06 PM , Rating: 2
screw that - I want that shirt!

But I gotta hand it to Reclaimer.

He is holding his cool uncharacteristically well in this thread. That is freakin rare! Hats off Reclaimer!


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/8/14, Rating: 0
RE: <3 Jason
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 9:53:34 PM , Rating: 2
And yet, you troll here, but it's a trash tabloid. You Appletards have some really moronic logic.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/8/14, Rating: 0
RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 8:15:13 AM , Rating: 2
Ah the "I'm above it all, yet I'm here every day" approach.

Pretty sure if Daily Tech was that terrible, you would find something better to do with your time.

Come on buddy, don't be so jelly.


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 8:30:40 AM , Rating: 2
LOL. Exactly.

I hate this site, and most of the people that visit it.
- Solution. Keep coming back. /s


RE: <3 Jason
By nikon133 on 7/9/2014 9:04:55 PM , Rating: 2
Well, some people are self-destructive...


RE: <3 Jason
RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 12:21:23 AM , Rating: 2
"such pride being quoted in a trash tabloid that Anand should have airlocked years ago."

And there it is... The inevitable outing itself by the troll. Invariably, you nutjobs that keep coming here on behalf of a company resort to insulting the site. It cant be that people call it like they see it. It cant be that the smug crapware you are here to defend has problems, even though its all 100% controlled by Apple and they have only 3 whole models to support, and missing a ton of features, and still have these issues... You don't agree with it, so it must be a "trash tabloid". /rolls eyes.

Hey, like any channel on the TV, no one is making you watch it. If you don't like it, feel free not to click it. Don't let the door hit ya either.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/9/14, Rating: 0
RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 12:47:32 AM , Rating: 1
Wait. What? Sorry, I don't have a bigoted bone in my body, not do I ever excuse such behavior. Why would you even bring that into this thread? You take things way out of context. Reclaimer said some off the cuff remark about Apple users being "Gay" and it got blown into some huge homophobic thing. All I said was he was insulting Apple users, not gays. LOL. You are a compete moron.

And hey again, stop clicking on it if you dont like the site. Really,


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/9/2014 8:12:15 AM , Rating: 2
That's what I said, you excused the use of hate speech because "he doesn't really mean it".

Go you.


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 8:44:36 AM , Rating: 1
Are you mentally imbalanced that you cant understand slang? There are multiple uses of the word "Gay" (other than its original happy/jovial meaning).

- The Jr. high school level insult.
- The publicly acceptable description of homosexual.

In that post he was VERY obviously using the Jr. high school description to insult certain Apple users that bought a case with a hole in it so you can see the Apple logo, because that is soooo important. If you want to call that "hate speech" against gays you are completely out of line.

And aside from that obvious one, lets just do a hypothetical that he did use the term "Gay" to actually describe a Gay person. What exactly is wrong with that term? That is the term every Gay friend I have uses to describe their sexual preference (at least when they are being polite).

If you think you can find a post where he used hate speech and I defended it, please post a link to it or STFU.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/10/2014 12:10:38 AM , Rating: 2
Forget "gay", Reclaimer has also used f*g and f*ggy in the same way in the same threads. As before, you excuse and enable his use of hate speech.

And no, this is not acceptable.

If you, middle aged IT guy who spends all day on company time defending his phone, finds the use of ugly hate speech to put down people who use another kind of phone acceptable, well, go you and keep perpetuating the use of awful language to defend (lol) your phone.


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 8:00:07 AM , Rating: 2
OK, since you keep bringing it up. Please, let's set aside our Mobile OS war (that sounds funny saying it doesn't it?) for a moment and talk about this... When we talk about whatever platform and insult each other with regards to that, it's just commenting on a tech site. When you get into calling someone a bigot, and using the term "hate speech" to describe them, you are striking at the very core of the person that they are... And you keep bringing it in, so lets do this.

I didn't defend the use your other "f" word. In ONE thread when he said some Apple users were "gay" - In ONE thread. If he said the other word anywhere else at any other time, I sure as hell didnt defend it, nor agree. I went and found the last post on that before you disappeared and didn't respond.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Rakes+in+102B+Profi...

If you are going to keep bringing this in, please go read the 2nd half of it (the non mobile OS part) and check the link I provided in it. If you can read all that, you will change your mind and stop acting like I am some sort of bigot. It's simply not me, not for a second, not ever in my life.


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 9:55:01 AM , Rating: 2
Please stop feeding this idiot troll. I appreciate it man, but the more you try to defend yourself and me, the more guilty they make you look.

The only thing that comment shows, is that I'm bigoted toward Apple and it's users. Which I admit proudly. Not homosexuals.

He's just a sad pathetic little person trying to make the "bigot" monicker stick because he's got nothing else. His jealousy and hate are so evident. I mean, he's just jelly that the Reclaimer gets top billing. So sooooooo jelly :)


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 11:14:52 AM , Rating: 2
"Please stop feeding this idiot troll. I appreciate it man, but the more you try to defend yourself and me, the more guilty they make you look. - The only thing that comment shows, is that I'm bigoted toward Apple and it's users. Which I admit proudly."

I really wasn't even defending you as much as stating the obvious, that you were insulting Apple users. HE clearly lost the argument, couldn't keep up, so he wants to attack the one comment and make it into something it isn't. Whatever, it's as transparent as always.

"He's just a sad pathetic little person trying to make the "bigot" monicker stick because he's got nothing else."

That much is obvious. Honestly, once a clear TRoll like this admits he hates the site and the writers and the commentors, it's pretty much over. The only purpose to come here is to troll his precious. What a F$%king loser. The difference between this asshat and Testerguy is that TG is open and obvious about his hate. KoolAidMan is just a passive aggressive coward with a keyboard.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/10/2014 10:19:41 AM , Rating: 2
Try and stick with what you say then. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words, etc.

That or we have different ideas of what is acceptable.


RE: <3 Jason
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/10/2014 8:32:59 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If you, middle aged IT guy who spends all day on company time defending his phone,
As you sit and defend Apple all day here...


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 9:33:11 AM , Rating: 2
I know right? It's absolutely hilarious. At least I am here posting on a wide variety of subjects. I post everywhere. This clown comes here regularly to a site he hates specifically to defend Apple and he makes it sound like I have an issue. LOL.

Freegin nutbar.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/10/2014 10:15:47 AM , Rating: 2
It's less about defending Apple and more about responding to dumb comments. I don't troll Android threads, it's mostly WP threads because WP is good. I've also been registered on Anandtech since 1999 and have far fewer comments than you guys.

Google IO had about 10 comments. iPhone at walmart had about 100, almost all Apple haters. Isn't the difference obvious to you?

You guys are weird.


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 10:59:51 AM , Rating: 2
You don't like the site, you don't like the writers, you dont like the commentors. What other reason do you have for coming back other than to troll? There is no logical reason to visit a site you hate. I visit a lot of sites everyday for news, DailyTech is just one of them. I do most of my commenting here because it is by far the most entertaining comments section I have found. But you hate the sight and since that is the case , just stop coming here... if you are going to keep coming here don't pretend like you don't have an agenda. We know you, we know your agenda. We know KoolAidMan. Its obvious, its transparent, and its tiresome


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/10/2014 11:57:37 AM , Rating: 2
I dunno. I find trolling koolaid kinda fun and a great source of entertainment.

He rants on sooo well! :D

Does teasing the socially challenged apple fanboys make me a really bad person? I guess it shows my sadistic streak since it is poking barking dogs with a stick to make them madder.


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 12:39:41 PM , Rating: 2
"Does teasing the socially challenged apple fanboys make me a really bad person? I guess it shows my sadistic streak since it is poking barking dogs with a stick to make them madder."

LOL. No not at all. It makes you normal. And don't get me wrong, I find it fun, and often hilarious. Especially how he tries to change the subject when losing... I am just trying to get the clown to drop the pretense that he is here being logical and unbiased. He is sooooo obviously trolling for Apple it's not even a question.


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 8:45:06 AM , Rating: 5
Hate speech? hahahah

You and ritualim should make a 'Reclaimer hurt our butts' club.

Or is that too gay?


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/10/2014 12:12:46 AM , Rating: 1
Nah, its just funny that a bigoted tea party men's rights activist is the face of this silly website. Makes perfect sense.


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 1:14:44 PM , Rating: 1
Reclaimer77, the FACE of Daily Tech.

Man, thanks. I really like the sound of that :)


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/10/2014 12:00:27 PM , Rating: 2
Wouldn't worry too much about that. They have their own lube.


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/2014 6:47:51 AM , Rating: 4
+1 to retro's response.

Look dude, if you are gay you had better grow a thicker skin than that real soon or you will be in for a lifetime of trouble. Everyone is free to comment here - even the southern baptists.

Seriously, if you don't like the comments of this site, then please don't feel obligated to click on that 'Reply' link. You don't have to click it! Honest! You really don't.

Likewise if you don't like the content of the editorials, by all means stay over at Anand's main site along with your rants. The rest of us happily to continue our sociopolitical debates and arguments whether the increase of noxious gasses in the atmosphere is really caused by cow farts.


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/2014 6:49:20 AM , Rating: 2
fack I wish this site had edit buttons! Grrrr!


RE: <3 Jason
By Samus on 7/8/2014 3:47:59 PM , Rating: 2
Yes...and not to directly defect Apple here, because after all, Android (or any other phones for that matter) have never had update issues...

That's actually why I got rid of my Galaxy S3, because the last update borked the GPS and they never cared to fix it in subsequent updates (at least for the 6 months I dealt with it.) GPS would randomly not work, occasionally preempted by the symbol stuck on in the menu bar. It'd require a reboot. Sometimes I'd have to reboot daily to keep the GPS working. Pretty well documented problem that also lead to further battery life reduction, already a problem on the GS3. Just an awful phone.

We had this issue on my wife's iPhone 4s last week. We didn't think anything of it. A hard reboot caused it to boot with the update installed. Interesting to hear we weren't the only ones with a problem, though.


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 3:56:05 PM , Rating: 2
The hard boot fixed issues with installing the update.

It does nothing for those of us who installed the update just fine, then had these other issues.

And the Galaxy S3 was a full two generations ago. Not sure how relevant that story was...


RE: <3 Jason
By Samus on 7/8/2014 10:53:22 PM , Rating: 2
With the iPhone 4s and the GS3 both being 2 generations old with the former still receiving regular updates and the latter unsupported since last October, how the hell isn't it relevant?


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/9/14, Rating: 0
RE: <3 Jason
By nikon133 on 7/9/2014 9:14:27 PM , Rating: 3
As owner of 3Gs between 2009 and 2013, I will raise crap flag here.

Enforced support of 3Gs was stupidity, maybe nice sounding from marketing perspective but awful for 3Gs owners.

iOS6 missed most new features on 3Gs, yet slowed phone significantly. For me it was nothing more that iOS5 but much, much slower. And with worst battery life.

For company that so much insists on "user's experience", I think it was unforgivable for Apple to push iOS6 on 3Gs, if they really couldn't successfully scale it down to 3Gs limited resources. It should have stopped with iOS5. Maybe Apple was hoping that iOS6 will motivate some 3Gs users to finally move. It kind of worked; I moved to Lumia 920.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/8/2014 9:52:21 PM , Rating: 3
Funny you mention that, I had the exact same problems with my GS3. Really bad phone with awful support.

A bug in iOS is front page news. A bug with Android is another Tuesday: http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/google-nexus...


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/2014 6:59:12 AM , Rating: 5
Android is a wide open ecosystem. You can install it on just about any hardware except an iPhone (And even some enterprising soul got so miffed with iOS that they did manage to port 'droid to an iPhone). It is expected that not all hardware platforms it supports will be 100% bug-free but surprisingly most are. You take the bad right along with the good.

When you consider iOS is a closed ecosystem there is no reason bugs of this magnitude should be ever there. It is Apple-designed software. It is Apple-designed hardware. Bugs like this should never slip past their Q/A testing.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/9/2014 8:17:26 AM , Rating: 1
Any OS has bugs. As for magnitude, I have yet to see anyone having issues.

Like I said, sucks to be Reclaimer, that a calendar bug that's affecting Eastern Europe borked his phone. My stuff is working great and nobody I know is having problems.

You know what else is funny? Major bug hitting the Nexus, no article. Google IO happens, about ten posts. Walmart discounts iPhones, 100 posts.

You people are obsessed


RE: <3 Jason
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/9/2014 9:30:21 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
You people are obsessed
Says the Macolyte, how ironic.


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 10:27:40 AM , Rating: 2
This isn't a bug. This was an update that got pushed to millions of people's devices, that obviously was not put through even the most casual of QA practices.

And you can pull the "nobody I know" BS, but any websearch reveals that there are massive issues with this patch affecting millions of people.

You are being intentionally dismissive because you're all defensive about your precious. You can't accuse others of being biased fanbois when you are acting exactly like one.

Does this look like just a calendar bug affecting Eastern Europe?

"iOS 7.1.2 users are also reporting issues with Exchange, iOS 7.1.2 battery life, problems with the camera application, SIM card failures after installing the new software, a strange Contacts bug that appears to be cutting off pertinent information, problems with the front-facing FaceTime HD camera, issues with iMessage and images, broken push for Email, and Contact syncing issues.

These have all been reported within the last 24 hours which means that they are likely just the tip of the iceberg."


http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/07/01/ios-7-1-2-...


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 11:20:23 AM , Rating: 2
"And you can pull the "nobody I know" BS, but any websearch reveals that there are massive issues with this patch affecting millions of people."

Dismissive of issues- Classic troll trait #1

"You are being intentionally dismissive because you're all defensive about your precious. You can't accuse others of being biased fanbois when you are acting exactly like one."

Hypocritical - Classic troll trait #2

"Does this look like just a calendar bug affecting Eastern Europe?"

Evasion - Classic troll trait #3

He is really running the gambit. In other posts today he has done #4 - Change the subject LOL.

Way to go KoolAidMan! You are a riot today.


RE: <3 Jason
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/10/2014 12:03:52 AM , Rating: 2
Dismissive only because the patch changed nothing for me. Everything is the same. I know lots of people on iOS and haven't heard a peep about these problems.

Patches killing GPS on my GS3 did happen to lots of people though, myself included. Disposable OS running on disposable device, so I was fine moving to a Nokia after.

You dodged this btw: http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/google-nexus...

No comments, ofc, just the usual evasion.


RE: <3 Jason
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/10/2014 8:37:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Patches killing GPS on my GS3 did happen to lots of people though, myself included.
Didn't for me, YAY for anecdotes!


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 12:56:35 PM , Rating: 2
LOL. He is so busy defending Apple at all costs, he is losing track of conversations. Also, I specifically recall him saying he has a GS4 and an HTC One as well as some older Android he had for 2 years... He sure buys alot of Android phones for an Android hater.

I call complete and utter BS on everything he posts. We are dealing with a pathological liar here.


RE: <3 Jason
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/10/2014 7:45:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
He sure buys alot of Android phones for an Android hater.
I don't believe that one bit, I think he just says he had the products to justify his Apple defense.


RE: <3 Jason
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 12:48:22 PM , Rating: 2
"You dodged this btw:"

Uhh... "BTW" you arent doing too well with reading comprehension lately. I am not the one saying anything about that. In fact, I am here several times in the past few days saying I don't fault Apple for this. In fact, on this VERY article, I said "It's true bugs happen in any software. I don't really fault Apple for this, it's not like any other OS is bug free. It's the smug condescending attitude from thier zealots that rubs people the wrong way. You act like that and when you do have a bug, people will harp on you about it."

But... Keep trying. You may get there someday.


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/2014 4:58:55 PM , Rating: 2
You are just mad because the Apple fanboys are in such short supply.

I mean the 3 "Apple Geniuses" with a dozen alt DT accts each are having a tough time beating off all the negative Apple comments. Awww!


RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 5:40:28 PM , Rating: 2
Hahaha love it. Preach!


RE: <3 Jason
By ClownPuncher on 7/8/2014 2:45:38 PM , Rating: 2
Is it your work phone, or did you switch camps and get one for personal use?


RE: <3 Jason
By ClownPuncher on 7/8/2014 2:46:16 PM , Rating: 2
Nevermind, I lerned 2 read.


RE: <3 Jason
By nikon133 on 7/8/2014 5:05:28 PM , Rating: 2
Now lern to write ;)

Just kidding.


RE: <3 Jason
By BSMonitor on 7/9/14, Rating: -1
RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/14, Rating: 0
RE: <3 Jason
By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 10:51:50 AM , Rating: 2
RE: <3 Jason
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/9/2014 3:42:11 PM , Rating: 2
I am honestly surprised he hasn't been banned yet. He is one of the worst.


RE: <3 Jason
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/2014 10:28:45 AM , Rating: 3
Wow, look at all the comments on this story in just one day.

And the lion's share because Reclaimer was quoted rather than the actual story itself.

Man that's funny as hell

This sh!t roxx :D


RE: <3 Jason
By slow_excellence on 7/10/2014 10:35:46 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
And the lion's share because Reclaimer was quoted rather than the actual story itself.


I stopped coming here for the articles a long time ago but check back in every once in a while for the family drama.

Jason should definitely quote reclaimer more often!


Heheheh
By Jim_Liquor on 7/8/14, Rating: 0
RE: Heheheh
By Chadder007 on 7/8/2014 2:19:45 PM , Rating: 3
I've honestly had more issues with my Android (Droid X, S3, RAZR HD) devices than any iPhone.


RE: Heheheh
By Jim_Liquor on 7/8/2014 2:40:02 PM , Rating: 3
Bringing the wrath of Reclaimer77 here, I am sure, but I was more along the lines of Windows Phone. I have been running 8.1 beta on that for months now with zero problems. Zero. It took around 20 minutes to migrate data, update and turn back on with 8.1 .... I am sorry, but it is far, far away superior to Apple in all known ways.

Android can be a mess, I agree. Especially the older $0 crap models. But it too is leagues above Apple's buggy toy OS these days, if kept current.


RE: Heheheh
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 3:04:57 PM , Rating: 3
Bringing the wrath?

I agree with everything you just said. More than I agree, I'm pleased that you said it.

Windows Phone 8.1 is great. I've said that all along.


RE: Heheheh
By retrospooty on 7/8/2014 5:16:37 PM , Rating: 2
"I have been running 8.1 beta on that for months now with zero problems. Zero. It took around 20 minutes to migrate data, update and turn back on with 8.1 .... I am sorry, but it is far, far away superior to Apple in all known ways...... Android can be a mess, I agree. Especially the older $0 crap models. But it too is leagues above Apple's buggy toy OS these days, if kept current."

Exactly... I think there is a lot of lingering sentiment from 4+ years ago when the other OS's were pretty far behind IOS. In the past 4 years, the rest have caught up, surpassed and now are running circles around IOS so to speak. People need to update their rhetoric.


RE: Heheheh
By ritualm on 7/8/2014 2:21:04 PM , Rating: 2
Then I look at the state of Android and it's not all that much better, especially with heavily crippled SD card support in KitKat.

Apple users don't deserve the bugs they're getting with 7.1.2. Don't kid yourself. KK's SD card support issue is a big Achilles' Heel, considering how many Android phones today have microSD card slots.


RE: Heheheh
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 2:32:04 PM , Rating: 2
Trying to understand your logic. SD card support, which Apple doesn't even have, is somehow on par with bugs that break your phone?

Wake me up when iPhone's have SD card slots and they stop charging a fortune for $5 worth of flash memory. Until then, you have ZERO argument that even makes sense.


RE: Heheheh
By ritualm on 7/8/2014 2:42:14 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Trying to understand your logic. SD card support, which Apple doesn't even have, is somehow on par with bugs that break your phone?

It IS with KitKat.
quote:
Wake me up when iPhone's have SD card slots

LOL, I don't care that iPhones don't have SD card slots irl. What I do care is the lack of any user-friendly filesystem in iOS, and that has to be there before any mention of removable or external storage.
quote:
and they stop charging a fortune for $5 worth of flash memory.

If you think $50 to go up a storage tier is cheaper than Apple's traditional $100 per tier, you are severely deluded. $50 is still overpriced. Make that $10-20 and then maybe I'd agree with you.
quote:
Until then, you have ZERO argument that even makes sense.

Says the guy who wrongly claimed the Samsung S5 Mini comes with a Snapdragon 800-series SoC, when the actual specsheet said Exynos 3470.

You're not doing too well trolling me, Testerguy3.


RE: Heheheh
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 2:50:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Says the guy who wrongly claimed the Samsung S5 Mini comes with a Snapdragon 800-series SoC, when the actual specsheet said Exynos 3470.
He didn't originally claim that, I did, based off a Google search and then GSMArena showed it was the 3470 after doing further research.

But hey, don't let facts gets in the way of your ranting.


RE: Heheheh
By ritualm on 7/8/14, Rating: 0
RE: Heheheh
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 2:58:52 PM , Rating: 3
I saw Cheese post that and I went with it. It's no excuse I should have done my research myself (which is why I didn't blame Cheese until you dug that BS up again here), but honestly, if you're trying to make a capital case out of someone quoting the wrong spec for a phone, you've made my case for me.

I'm a completely flawed person, as we all are. I made a mistake, so what?

The butthurt is strong with this one...


RE: Heheheh
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 3:02:30 PM , Rating: 3
No, he didn't. I did.


RE: Heheheh
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 3:02:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It IS with KitKat.


So not being able to run apps from the SD card, but being able to use it in EVERY other way, is completely broken to you? Okay whatever. Nice try.

quote:
LOL, I don't care that iPhones don't have SD card slots irl.


But you keep bringing up other phones that DO. So you DO care that Android doesn't do SD support to your satisfaction, but you're also perfectly okay that Apple doesn't?

Again, zero logic here.

quote:
You're not doing too well trolling me, Testerguy3.


You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

As far as I can see, the only one trolling here is you. Badly.


RE: Heheheh
By stoogenadoot on 7/8/2014 3:44:38 PM , Rating: 1
Not being able to run and install apps to SD is a bit of a pain, but certainly not broken. It's still great for MP3's Movies, backups and whatever else you need.

Totally agreed about the "smug attitude" of Apple users as well. It's been that way since the early Mac days. OF course not all, but far too many of them act like complete and total douchebags.


RE: Heheheh
By ritualm on 7/8/2014 4:06:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So not being able to run apps from the SD card, but being able to use it in EVERY other way, is completely broken to you?

With KK, it is, and it's not just running apps from the SD card.
quote:
Prior to Android 4.4 KitKat, applications — provided they had permission to access the SD card — could read and write to any area on removable storage, including the system folders like DCIM, Alarms, etc. That has all changed, and now third-party applications — as in ones you download from Google Play or elsewhere — can only write to files and folders that they have created or have taken ownership of.

READ THAT. Then tell me what that means for phones with SD card slots.

Sadly, I doubt you would pause and read before making another "none of what you said makes any sense" gibberish post.
quote:
So you DO care that Android doesn't do SD support to your satisfaction, but you're also perfectly okay that Apple doesn't?

You're mixing two dissimilar things into one, and thus is the one making zero logic.
quote:
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

As far as I can see, the only one trolling here is you. Badly.

Oh look, troll calling others out for trolling, how novel!


RE: Heheheh
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 4:14:06 PM , Rating: 1
quote:

Oh look, troll calling others out for trolling, how novel!
And yet, here you are doing it too....


RE: Heheheh
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 4:20:49 PM , Rating: 2
I'm still trying to figure out his point here. Yes KitKat restricts some SD support. But you can STILL expand the storage of your phone, period. With Apple that's never been an option, and never will.

Then he says he doesn't care about SD support....okaaaaay?

Then he says 50 is not less than 100....uhhhhh

He just can't stand that my opinions and statements get recognition and validation by the Daily Tech staff, and his don't. And he can say he doesn't care all he wants, but his OP read like something that a rabid dog smashed out on the keyboard.

Yes he's used the "troll" term like, what, ten times already here? Just..lol. Wow.

Ritualim keep crying, your tears taste like candy. The sweetest kind.


RE: Heheheh
By sprockkets on 7/8/2014 8:52:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
READ THAT. Then tell me what that means for phones with SD card slots.


It means you use kitkat's storage access framework and have proper read and write access.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7859/examining-micro...

"This sounds like a major issue, but Google has clearly planned this out, as the Storage Access Framework feature in Android 4.4 allows file manipulation of data on the microSD slot and can provide access to data on the microSD card without allowing free access of all data on the microSD card. At any rate, an example of the SAF UI can be seen below."


RE: Heheheh
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/8/2014 7:15:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So not being able to run apps from the SD card, but being able to use it in EVERY other way, is completely broken to you? Okay whatever. Nice try.


I can actually run some (not all) of my apps that aren't needed at boot time from SDcard using Samsung's version of Kitkat.

Another one of his flawed arguments o -- I can get a 64GB class 10 MicroSD for about $50. How much does it cost to boos an iPhone up from 16GB to 80GB? (oh wait ... you CAN'T - even the 64-bit ones don't go that high ... D'oh! ).


RE: Heheheh
By atechfan on 7/8/2014 4:07:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:

If you think $50 to go up a storage tier is cheaper than Apple's traditional $100 per tier, you are severely deluded. $50 is still overpriced.


50 is NOT less than 100? I'm gonna hunt down my math teachers now.


RE: Heheheh
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 4:12:59 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I wasn't even going to call that out. It's too obviously retarded to have to.


RE: Heheheh
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/2014 12:45:31 PM , Rating: 2
Funny part is you can get a 64GB microSD for about $50 which would boost a 16GB phone to 80GB.

For Apple that would be more than 2 storage tiers because no matter how hard you try you will never get 80GB on an iPhone.

No matter what Apple does, they will never in a bazillion years top the pure flexibility & usability of popping the current 64GB MicroSD card full of captured video and other stuff out of my phone, shoving it in a card reader on my PC, taking a second $50 64GB MicroSD card and popping it into my phone - without having to delete the content of that original MicroSD card until I am ready to.Pure magic.

How many $50 MicroSD cards can you buy with that $200 or more difference between a 16GB iPhone 5S and a 64GB iPhone 5S?


By TesseractTess on 7/9/2014 10:45:58 AM , Rating: 1
Why is this article quoting a poor, mentally challenged moron, who obviously doesn't even use an iPhone? Pretty fraudulent by DT =/ Better report true reviews by real users, instead of flammatory nonsense. Just like every other iPhone update ever released, this has worked perfectly for me. And I know because I actually installed it, not like the fake troll being quoted.




By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 10:58:37 AM , Rating: 2
I use an iPhone every day. Can't you read?

I'm the one who brought this to Mick's attention, because my work phone got hosed by this update. And when I searched for a fix, I found TONS of people bit*hing about this so-called patch.

And you or I may or may not have problems, but you cannot ignore the multitude of users reporting problems on the Internet. I guess they're all non-iPhone using "trolls" too....

Look, don't be so jelly. I'm sure one day, someone somewhere, will care enough about your opinion to quote it. It could happen. Don't lose faith! :)


By Cheesew1z69 on 7/9/2014 11:15:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Just like every other iPhone update ever released, this has worked perfectly for me.
Great for you, it hasn't for everyone.

And as for the rest of your ridiculous troll post, hope DT bans you for it.


The update problems are real!!!
By HenryT on 7/11/2014 7:59:35 AM , Rating: 2
I tried updating directly from within the iPhone but it went into recovery mode. I then found this article which specifically mentions NOT to update to iOS 7.1.2 from within the iPhone but via iTunes:




RE: The update problems are real!!!
By HenryT on 7/11/2014 8:01:48 AM , Rating: 2
Not a problem here
By Shark Tek on 7/8/2014 8:41:23 PM , Rating: 2
In my home we have 2 iphones and 2 ipads.

All them the update installed successfully.




Badly Broken?
By Nortel on 7/8/14, Rating: -1
RE: Badly Broken?
By Fleeb on 7/8/2014 2:32:39 PM , Rating: 2
So you are saying that such problems are okay for a perfect device paid for with a premium? I can understand this happening with companies creating cheap devices but not for the most valuable company in the world. It's like they cannot be bothered to spend a little more for QA - something they are proud of.


RE: Badly Broken?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 2:37:08 PM , Rating: 2
And he's lying on top of that. Android updated "bricking" phones? FUD.

But yes, there's a double standard because Apple runs their mouth and acts superior and so smug. When you put yourself out there as an elitist, you better be goddamn perfect or you're going to be called out.

Having said that, I've never had an Android update in my life that completely broke text messaging and all the other things 7.1.2 has. It's brutal.

I have to wonder if they did ANY internal testing at all!


RE: Badly Broken?
By ilt24 on 7/8/14, Rating: 0
RE: Badly Broken?
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/8/2014 7:03:27 PM , Rating: 2
Yes Android updates can fail. Android is not written to support a single, totally controlled hardware platform.

You realize 9 out of 10 bricked/boot-looped android phones can be un-bricked, right? Done that several times with several different phones. It's really not hard at all and lots of instruction exactly how to do it via google.

What happens when a software update fails on an iPhone? Hop in the car and drive to the "Apple Genius Bar" for one of their 'experts' to fix for you (if they are smart enough to), or (most cases) send it to Apple to fix it and wait.

So what does this say about apple who can put out a software update for a hardware platform they have 100% control over -- because they designed it? Should something like that ever fail to update? Should the update, once installed ever exhibit the problems described by Jason in the article? Not unless the company is a total failure and did not thoroughly test their software.


RE: Badly Broken?
By ilt24 on 7/8/2014 8:52:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yes Android updates can fail
Yes, it was the point of my reply to someone that said "And he's lying on top of that. Android updated "bricking" phones? FUD."

quote:
You realize 9 out of 10 bricked/boot-looped android phones can be un-bricked, right?
Sure and I was able to fix my wife's N5 after she had a problem I included in my post.

quote:
What happens when a software update fails on an iPhone?


I'm sure it would depend on the problem, but I think you start with a hard reset, if that fails, you could try using iTunes, if that fails you can use DFU mode to select an older version of the firmware, then worst case your off to Apple or your carrier.



RE: Badly Broken?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 9:05:09 PM , Rating: 2
A "bricked" device means it's broken to the point that you have to send it in to be repaired. There's NOTHING you can do.

Not a single Android phone has ever been "bricked" from an update. You can ALWAYS fix an Android phone having a firmware issue.

So yes, by using the term "bricked", he was spreading FUD. And I guess so are you.

quote:
if that fails you can use DFU mode to select an older version of the firmware


Does that stand for Dumb Fuc*ing Update? Because that's what Apple just pushed to millions of phones.


RE: Badly Broken?
By ilt24 on 7/8/2014 9:33:19 PM , Rating: 2
Got your point of view, if someone has a problem with an android update and their phone become unusable to them, it their fault. if someone has a problem with an apple update and their phone become unusable to them, it apple's fault.

oh and as for:
quote:
Oh and can I revert to the previous, working, version of iOS? Nope!!! Not without jailbreaking the phone. Why? Someone please explain this to me.

That's what DFU (Device Firmware Update) mode is for.



RE: Badly Broken?
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/9/2014 8:19:28 AM , Rating: 2
Spot on. Don't expect logic or objectivity from these people though. At least you tried.


RE: Badly Broken?
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 8:33:44 AM , Rating: 3
"Got your point of view, if someone has a problem with an android update and their phone become unusable to them, it their fault. if someone has a problem with an apple update and their phone become unusable to them, it apple's fault."

Where did either of you see anything like that in his post?

What he said was "Not a single Android phone has ever been "bricked" from an update. You can ALWAYS fix an Android phone having a firmware issue "

There was no blame at all mentioned. He is referring to the fact that you can always boot an Android to recovery mode and revert it to stock if a bad ROM flash made it unbootable. It's built in.


RE: Badly Broken?
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/9/2014 9:31:52 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Don't expect logic or objectivity from these people though.
Ironic....


RE: Badly Broken?
By ilt24 on 7/8/2014 8:58:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So what does this say about apple who can put out a software update for a hardware platform they have 100% control over -- because they designed it? Should something like that ever fail to update? Should the update, once installed ever exhibit the problems described by Jason in the article? Not unless the company is a total failure and did not thoroughly test their software.

Btw: did you miss that the issue I posted about was with a 4.4.3 update for a Nexus 5? That would be Google's hardware and software, so you would not expect this to happen..."Not unless the company is a total failure and did not thoroughly test their software.


RE: Badly Broken?
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 9:04:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That would be Google's hardware
No it's not. That would be LG.


RE: Badly Broken?
By ilt24 on 7/8/2014 11:40:26 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
No it's not. That would be LG.
LG is Google's OEM for this phone.

From Wiki:
quote:
The Nexus 5 (codenamed Hammerhead)is a smartphone co-developed by Google and LG Electronics that runs the Android operating system. The successor to the Nexus 4, the device is the fifth smartphone in the Google Nexus series, a family of Android consumer devices marketed by Google and built by an original equipment manufacturer partner.


RE: Badly Broken?
By Monkey's Uncle on 7/9/2014 7:07:18 AM , Rating: 3
Google's OEM does not mean Google designed the phone. They didn't All Google did was rebrand the phone. Plain and simple. Oh and let's not forget the Nexus 7s. Asus made those. Did Google design those as well?

Who is Apple's OEM? Did they design Apple's hardware AND software?

Sorry bro, Apple has no excuse for letting bugs of this magnitude and number slip past their Q/A testing.


RE: Badly Broken?
By tonyswash on 7/8/2014 6:23:51 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
And he's lying on top of that. Android updated "bricking" phones? FUD.


Exactly. Total FUD. Android phones don’t get updates. Whole things is impossible.


RE: Badly Broken?
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 6:47:09 PM , Rating: 2
Anddddddddddd stupid comment of the day.


RE: Badly Broken?
By tonyswash on 7/8/2014 8:14:26 PM , Rating: 1
It's just a variation of the Mac Vs PC ads :)

An exaggeration that stings because it is based on a painful truth.

The last major OS updates for iOS and Android were released about the same time last year.

iOS 7 is on 90% of iOS devices and KitKat is on 17.9% of Android devices.

So yes of course Android devices do get updated - sometimes - and very, very slowly.

Plus iOS devices don't get problems like this :)

http://gameovenstudios.com/bounden-on-android-dela...


RE: Badly Broken?
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 8:46:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
An exaggeration that stings because it is based on a painful truth.
Doesn't sting at all, most people don't care but we will let you have your little fantasy if that's what makes you feel better.


RE: Badly Broken?
By sprockkets on 7/8/2014 8:49:22 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, ios devices never have issues with their sensors!

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/iphone-5s-use...

Never have problems!

http://www.wired.com/2013/10/iphone-5s-ios-7-issue...

I accept your apology Tony!


RE: Badly Broken?
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 9:06:23 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I accept your apology Tony!
That's....cute. As if you really think he is going to apologize even though you show him actual proof of problems? LOL!


RE: Badly Broken?
By Jim_Liquor on 7/10/2014 9:33:08 AM , Rating: 2
Finally, the mighty tonyswash, king of iTards, chimes in.

When will you learn, you simpleton, that iAnything = crap in all known ways?

Are you still thinking that 3.5" screens are the true and only way that Jobs-God intended?

How much of the Kool-Aid have you drank?

What is your problem with facts, logic and reason?


RE: Badly Broken?
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/10/2014 7:41:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What is your problem with facts, logic and reason?
That they exist


RE: Badly Broken?
By kmmatney on 7/8/2014 10:49:20 PM , Rating: 2
All 6 iOS devices at my house updated without any issues... That said, my "official" Android phone updates have also gone smooth, although I did brick my phone once with an unofficial ROM update (thus ending any desire to experiment with Android ROMs ever again).


RE: Badly Broken?
By tonyswash on 7/8/14, Rating: 0
RE: Badly Broken?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/8/2014 4:25:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Nice to see Reclaimer77 getting so stoked over seeing his comments quoted :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS0VQOHX7lM


RE: Badly Broken?
By nikon133 on 7/8/2014 5:18:46 PM , Rating: 2
Sh*t happens. From what you are saying, nothing should ever go wrong with premium cars, not after the money you have wasted on them. Yet to my knowledge, premium brands are on average less reliable than Toyota, Volkswagen and such.

I remember huge recalls on Audi TT back in the days... Porsche Cayenne had problem with door lock/handle, if memory serves. There were multiple problems with Mercs. BMW rusting under rear seats. And on and on...

Speaking of which, MS released calendar update for WP8 which completely disabled editing/creating schedules. Basically calendar became read-only. From what I have seen, the problem was unconditional - everyone was suffering it. Makes you wonder how an app with such obvious flaw could have been released, but there you go. MS reacted quickly, though - a day or two later they pushed previous version over the air, until new version is fixed and re-released.

Murphy's Law, really - sh*t will hit the fan, eventually. The question is not will it happen, the question is how company will react when it happens.


RE: Badly Broken?
By retrospooty on 7/8/2014 5:49:22 PM , Rating: 2
It's true bugs happen in any software. I don't really fault Apple for this, it's not like any other OS is bug free. It's the smug condescending attitude from thier zealots that rubs people the wrong way. You act like that and when you do have a bug, people will harp on you about it.


RE: Badly Broken?
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/8/2014 9:56:08 PM , Rating: 2
So this somehow doesn't apply to flagship Android phones that cost just as much? These are flagship Samsungs we're talking about. Its actually even worse since you aren't assured updates on capable hardware that is well within a two year contract.

Come on dude.


RE: Badly Broken?
By stoogenadoot on 7/8/2014 3:48:35 PM , Rating: 3
Android bricking phones? My god man, people flash, reflash and re-reflash Androids with custom ROM's by the millions every day. This is not an issue. Especially with official ROM's.

"It just works" ? That phrase needs to be retired.


RE: Badly Broken?
By Apone on 7/8/2014 5:03:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
"It just works" ? That phrase needs to be retired.


Apple is sure welcome to do that but it's going to eternally echo in the realm of technology as the butt of countless jokes and sarcasm.

And Reclaimer77, great shout out from DT!


RE: Badly Broken?
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/8/2014 6:33:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
it's going to eternally echo in the realm of technology as the butt of countless jokes and sarcasm.
It already is...


"When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." -- Sony BMG attorney Jennifer Pariser














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