Sources: Ruling via The Verge, Reuters
quote: ...that is silly
quote: ...with is silly
quote: I've never-ever-EVER seen such paranoia around here like the one so common at Apple Insider. Every article related to (and by default heavily biased against) MS and Google starts with same parade of hatred, rage, poor attempts of being smug and "elitist", all laced with rich underlying layer of inferiority complex;
quote: You clearly do. It is adorable that you took the time to address my posts, so mad. I'd be mad too if I bought trash.
quote: In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted".
quote: Or one can just wait for someone else to do all the hard work, of assembling the good, and sometimes great, ideas, the designing of the product, the intense polishing of that design, and then just copy it. That's certainly a viable business model and one that many companies in the tech arena pursue. Watch what is a success and slavishly, but often poorly, copy it.
quote: ('hey this iPad thing is selling like hotcakes, let's make something that looks exactly like it right down to the packaging and sell it'). One is, I think, acceptable and one is not. One is good for the development of technology products and one is not.
quote: quote:Or one can just wait for someone else to do all the hard work, of assembling the good, and sometimes great, ideas, the designing of the product, the intense polishing of that design, and then just copy it. That's certainly a viable business model and one that many companies in the tech arena pursue. Watch what is a success and slavishly, but often poorly, copy it.So you are perfectly ok then with Apple taking Android's notifications, but not when others take ideas from apple?quote:('hey this iPad thing is selling like hotcakes, let's make something that looks exactly like it right down to the packaging and sell it'). One is, I think, acceptable and one is not. One is good for the development of technology products and one is not.Did anyone steal the source code to iOS? No. Everyone spent money and time to develop their own products. And apple's designs are all based on Braun's design philosophies, and he doesn't have a design patent war with anyone.
quote: I am perfectly Ok with Apple copying the notification method because it was not patented or copyrighted and it was a good idea inserted in a great product which was not itself copied.
quote: Blatant copying of products and the innovations of other with the addition of no originality is a bit like obscenity really - hard to define but one knows when one encounters it. You and I both know that Apple has been the unpaid unofficial R&D department of the whole tech sector for a long time. What pisses you off is that Apple isn't a loser anymore - that's it's playing to win.
quote: When one says Samsung 'developed' it's tablets in what sense do mean that? The OS came from Google which in turn had cloned iOS and the form factor and industrial design was copied wholesale from Apple.
quote: Are you really arguing that if Apple had not launched the iPad and if it had not been a gigantic success that Samsung would have come up with a tablet that looked just like that completely independently?
quote: Smalltalk has no Finder, and no need for one, really. Drag-and-drop file manipulation came from the Mac group, along with many other unique concepts: resources and dual-fork files for storing layout and international information apart from code; definition procedures; drag-and-drop system extension and configuration; types and creators for files; direct manipulation editing of document, disk, and application names; redundant typed data for the clipboard; multiple views of the file system; desk accessories; and control panels, among others. The Lisa group invented some fundamental concepts as well: pull down menus, the imaging and windowing models based on QuickDraw, the clipboard, and cleanly internationalizable software.Smalltalk had a three-button mouse and pop-up menus, in contrast to the Mac's menu bar and one-button mouse. Smalltalk didn't even have self-repairing windows - you had to click in them to get them to repaint, and programs couldn't draw into partially obscured windows. Bill Atkinson did not know this, so he invented regions as the basis of QuickDraw and the Window Manager so that he could quickly draw in covered windows and repaint portions of windows brought to the front. One Macintosh feature identical to a Smalltalk feature is selection-based modeless text editing with cut and paste, which was created by Larry Tesler for his Gypsy editor at PARC.As you may be gathering, the difference between the Xerox system architectures and Macintosh architecture is huge; much bigger than the difference between the Mac and Windows. It's not surprising, since Microsoft saw quite a bit of the Macintosh design (API's,sample code, etc.) during the Mac's development from 1981 to 1984; the intention was to help them write applications for the Mac, and it also gave their system designers a template from which to design Windows. In contrast, the Mac and Lisa designers had to invent their own architectures. Of course, there were some ex- Xerox people in the Lisa and Mac groups, but the design point for these machines was so different that we didn't leverage our knowledge of the Xerox systems as much as some people think.
quote: 1. Apple didnt invent the personal computer2. Music was downloadable before Apple got into the game.3. You would never have seen an iPhone if not for Apple copying the whole concept from Palm/Handspring.
quote: Except before Apple PCs were sht
quote: mp3 players were sht
quote: so called smart phones and PDAs were sht
quote: Except before Apple PCs were shit, mp3 players were shit and so called smart phones and PDAs were shit.
quote: by the way, you wouldn't even know what a modern multi-touch smartphone is, without Apple CREATING THE CATEGORY.... nor would you know what a modern Tablet is, without Apple CREATING the category.... nor would you know what a PC is... without Apple CREATING the category... nor would you know what downloadable Music legally was, without Apple CREATING the category.....
quote: It goes deeper that that i'm afraid. apple doesn't have the expertise, engineering prowess, manpower or willingness to developed an OS that can be guarantied to work on a wide variety of hardware.
quote: Somewhere along the line short sighted apple execs decide its a good idea to tie that great software to one specific piece of hardware only
quote: Somewhere along the line short sighted apple execs decide its a good idea to tie that great software to one specific piece of hardware only, instead of licensing it out.
quote: I hope now that jobs has passed (RIP) they are able to shift to a business model that provides long term success as well as in the short term because clearly all they have learned in the past 20 or 30 years is to patent everything and sue.
quote: Um, Apple already tried the licensing method in the nineties and all it created was cannibalisation on their own hardware sales.
quote: Sure, they earned a 100 dollar license fee for every mac clone sold but they also lost 500 dollars in hardware sales for every clone sold rather than a mac.
quote: There will only be place for one open software platform at the time in the modern growth focused economy. On the PC, there is MS with Windows. On the handhelds, there is Google with Android.
quote: There is a flaw with low volume-high profit margin strategies. Whilst they allow for large increases in profit from small increases in market share, they also result in large decreases in profit from small decreases in market share. This is less of a risk in the "large market share - small profit margin" model.
quote: "[Samsung] blatant copying (Apple) is wrong."
quote: then no one can be sure of whether someone is infringing upon a patent or not unless the writer of the patent says so, which is a ludicrous state of affairs.
quote: two patents on tech, and one design patent..
quote: it is because everyone, including the judge knows Apple blatantly stole Apple design and tech.... EVERYONE including the JUDGE mind you...
quote: It reasserts that it should be the only company legally allowed to make a modern tablet (primarily touch driven, thin, rectangular), regardless of whether the modern tablet looks different from the iPad.
quote: And this is why those very patents are being challenged in court.
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quote: Why would you want to hide a unique and original technological breakthrough? Wouldn't you want it in plain sight so everyone knows you discovered it?
quote: Toyota yielded to the German Judge's ruling, redesigning its car to have a different shape and reposition its elements such as the wheels and doors. Apple however has filed a second suit against the new design, which should soon go to market. It reasserts that it should be the only company legally allowed to make a modern car (primarily elongated, shiny, car-shaped), regardless of whether the modern car looks different from the Apple iCar. The German justice system has not yet decided whether or not to authorize Apple's request for a new preliminary injunction.
quote: "I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product."