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Apple Inc. is fast becoming the apple of analysts eyes.

Following the breaking news of Apple's 67 percent growth, UBS Investment Research is predicting big things for Apple in 2008.

UBS is counting on the so-called "halo-effect" to continue to drive Apple's sales. The "halo-effect", now in "halo 2," started with "halo 1" which referred to the increase in Apple's PC sales following the wild success of the early iPod.  Now after the release of the iPhone, Apple has entered into "halo 2" mode, where its iPhone and its iPod are driving each other's sales and driving sales of Apple computers.

UBS cited these effects as a major reason for Apple's torrid last quarter.  UBS analyst Ben Reitzes raised the outlook on Apple's stock to a hot $220.  Ben elaborates:

We continue to believe Apple is in the process of creating another version of the 'multiplier effect,' which we call 'Halo 2'.  Apple’s fiscal 4Q results show that the build up to the launch of the iPhone and its ongoing excitement is driving sales of accessories, boosting retail traffic, and helping drive sales of iPods and especially Macs. As a result, we believe shares can continue to move higher into Macworld [Expo] in January.

Apple's success in its fourth quarter was chronicled at DailyTech.  It included PC sales jumping 10 percent over predictions, making Apple currently the third largest home PC maker behind Dell and Compaq.  iPhone sales was also high despite less than flattering media coverage of various developments with Apple.

The only slightly disappointing fact for Apple was while their iPods sold well, they were slightly below the last quarter's sales.  UBS feels this only a temporary thing and is predicting strong iPod sales over the holiday season, driven by the new iPod lineup.

UBS cites that other factors which will drive strong holiday sales included the new Mac OS X Leopard, the recently updated iMac, and European iPhone.

UBS also speculated at some new possibilities that may be coming from Apple:  an ultraportable device, similar to the old Apple Newton; gaming initiatives to bring gaming to Macs; and an iTunes video rental service.

Still more significantly, UBS believes Apple will release a significant expansion to the iPhone in the next few months and that the iPhone will see a springtime refresh.

If true this would keep the "halo-effect" going strong. While UBS refused to provide any specific details, it did say this, "We expect Apple to make an announcement on additional international iPhone carriers in the coming months, and our contacts in the supply chain point toward a new iPhone model to be released by March."





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iPhone to iPod?
By lukasbradley on 10/26/2007 10:17:42 AM , Rating: 4
I can understand the "halo effect" of iPod sales boosting Mac sales, but I don't understand the iPhone to iPod boost. If the iPhone is a fully functioning MP3 player, why would its owners suddenly purchase more iPods?

If iPhone use supplants (albeit barely) iPod usage, shouldn't we expect the sales of Macs to remain on course, instead of another explosion?




RE: iPhone to iPod?
By Lonyo on 10/26/2007 10:39:06 AM , Rating: 4
Might be a marketing thing.
"Hey our iPods are awesome, now we have a phone too, and you want a new phone, so buy one of ours!" So iPod owners buy an iPhone.
The iPhone is everywhere on the news, people thing "oh, that's cool, but I don't need a phone", so they buy an iPod instead.

Or you could look at most Apple fanboys as being sheeple who need an ipod and an iphone as well as a new mac every year. :P


RE: iPhone to iPod?
By T4RTER S4UCE on 10/26/2007 11:53:44 AM , Rating: 1
Sheeple?... I get tired of every one insulting everyone else due to their belief in something else.


RE: iPhone to iPod?
By gramboh on 10/26/2007 1:03:34 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, but Apple zealots are the one group that really deserve it. Note that these are not people who use a Mac because of software requirements or OSX, but those that think having an Apple is cool and a status symbol. Walk into any coffee shop/lounge with wifi and you will see tons of these. Especially in Vancouver.


RE: iPhone to iPod?
By tayhimself on 10/26/2007 2:51:41 PM , Rating: 3
It can't possibly be because the Apple computers happen to look good, are quiet and easy to set up and use? Design and usability is important to some people, but hey I use Linux and Windows XP so...


RE: iPhone to iPod?
By Mil on 10/26/2007 3:51:28 PM , Rating: 3
I think you're confusing Apple zealots with Canadians. I always see tons of Canadians when I drop into a Starbucks in Vancouver. :)


RE: iPhone to iPod?
By Adonlude on 10/26/2007 3:58:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Sheeple?... I get tired of every one insulting everyone else due to their belief in something else.

Uh oh, here comes the PC police.


RE: iPhone to iPod?
By robinthakur on 10/29/2007 1:24:50 PM , Rating: 2
This is true, while I'm waiting for the iPhone to come out in England (i've resisted buying an unlocked one up until now!) I picked up an iPod touch and am bowled over by how beautiful and smooth the interface and design is on the device as well as the convenience of smooth fast web browsing over wifi. Out of the people I've shown it to 3 have cursed me loudly as they felt compelled to buy one too. ;) the iPod Touch is an iPhone lite pretty much.

Whilst my main machine has always been my home-built vista pc's, I've also owned macbook Pros and virtually all the iPods. Those that seem to permanently whine on whenever Apple is doing well, are misunderstanding something. Apple is successful for a reason, just as Microsoft is. Its strength currently lies in making uniquely styled and designed products with sleek lines and smooth interfaces and marketing them well, positioned as aspirational lifestyle items. The problem is that most of you here are impressed only by horsepower, whereas Apple consider all aspects of a product's appeal to the general public who like great modern design and are willing to pay for it. The great thing about imacs/iPod's/Macbooks is that they've introduced members of the general public to computers/mp3 platers etc. who otherwise would be scared off of the subject by the kind of blinkered, hating fanbois who post here. Apple make great products, that's why they do well.


The Apple bubble will pop soon
By mcnabney on 10/26/2007 11:37:15 AM , Rating: 2
Although there is a significant number of investors that own Apple because they own their products, most fund and institutional investors know that the stock price has no relation to reality.
Currently their market cap is about $161 billion with a P/E of 47. Non-emotional investors will be selling soon because they know that the earnings will never support the stock price.
I'm also looking at you Google.




RE: The Apple bubble will pop soon
By ChipDude on 10/26/2007 12:14:27 PM , Rating: 2
For slow growth companies P/E is an important metric. For growth companies take a look at 2010 that is what investors are pricing

I think you should ask yourself in 2010 what Apple profits be?

How about the 10-20 million iPHONE that Apple will collect double digit subscription fees each month. Lets assume 10 bucks a month that is 120 bucks a year and that means 1-2 billion a year. How about a few more iPhone variants in 2008 that are as big a hit as NANO. I can easily see a schenario where Apple dominates the high end and fashion phone business like they did the PC business.

How about say 12-15% total PC market share at their current total market growth rates of 5%. That means Apple growth in PCs will be double the other folks.

Its a risk many investors are worth betting on.

In Apple you are investing in Job's ability to navigate the next bit thing

In Google you are investing in the Gooplex ability to moneytize all the information on the internet.

Both have been and continue to look like good bets.

Now what really a bubble? Lets talk about HK and Shanghai


RE: The Apple bubble will pop soon
By lukasbradley on 10/26/2007 3:19:42 PM , Rating: 2
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In Apple you are investing in Job's ability to navigate the next bit thing


Does anyone remember NeXT computers? What was done had merit, but it wasn't a commercial success.

The man is human, and will make mistakes. Not everything he touches turns to gold.


RE: The Apple bubble will pop soon
By Scott66 on 10/26/2007 10:09:59 PM , Rating: 2
Steve was a wee distracted regarding the NeXT as he was busy with a little company called Pixar. While the computer did not sell that well, the graphical interface and 3-D modeling developed for the NeXT went on to much better projects. Pixar made Jobs one of the largest shareholders in Disney and created a virtual integration with itunes, imovies and Disney that has been jealously admired by other media companies.


RE: The Apple bubble will pop soon
By Scott66 on 10/26/2007 10:21:52 PM , Rating: 2
please replace virtual with vertical


RE: The Apple bubble will pop soon
By lukasbradley on 10/26/2007 3:16:07 PM , Rating: 2
I *almost* posted the same PE comparison in the market vertical yesterday, but was afraid I would get slammed as a hater. Nice catch.


RE: The Apple bubble will pop soon
By ChipDude on 10/28/2007 6:47:46 PM , Rating: 2
Yup watch these stocks go POP too with incredible PEs

Amazon at 103
Chipotle at 80
Broadcom at 116
Celgene at 178
ebay at 307
google at a very low 52
Hansens at 62
Sunpower at 592

It find it funny how PE gets thrown around then there are a ton of stocks that go up with high PEs and others that dive with very low PEs. Anybody who throws PE without any larger prospective is just a blood fool who missed the obvious runup. Just like CROC, UA or other obvious homeruns stocks.


A bit off topic
By Locutus465 on 10/26/2007 10:23:33 AM , Rating: 2
But wow... Like "halo effect" as a marketing term... You know you have a hugely successful video game when all of the sudden you find it so engrained in popular culter that it gets used by anyalists to generally describe a products effect on a companies bottom line...




RE: A bit off topic
By tjcioffe on 10/26/2007 10:27:20 AM , Rating: 2
halo effect has been an established marketing term for years, and has nothing to do with MSoft's game. it has to do with the physical appearance of a halo. =)

link: wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect)


RE: A bit off topic
By Locutus465 on 10/26/2007 10:35:34 AM , Rating: 2
Ah, I guess that is now why I'm in marketing :)


RE: A bit off topic
By Mil on 10/26/2007 4:02:21 PM , Rating: 2
HALO has been an established military procedure for decades, and has nothing to do with marketing or MSoft's game. It has to do with the fast and stealthy insertion of personnel and equipment. ;)

link: wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HALO)


I love me some Compaq
By Daven on 10/26/2007 11:52:54 AM , Rating: 3
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making Apple currently the third largest home PC maker behind Dell and Compaq.


????

When was this article written? Compaq? Lol!




RE: I love me some Compaq
By T4RTER S4UCE on 10/26/2007 11:56:42 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't he mean HP?