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Small lines formed outside Apple and AT&T stores across the country for the iPhone 3G S launch. The phone, which features more memory and a faster processor, quickly sold out at most locations.  (Source: AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)
Apple shoots for another sales record

With millions of iPhones already sold, Apple was hoping for another hit with the release of the iPhone 3G S.  The new phone features an improved camera (with AutoFocus), larger memory capacity, faster hardware, and a new OS.  Apple has been accepting preorders for the phone over the last couple weeks.

AT&T stores opened at 7:30 am in preparation for the launch.  Lines were relatively short and orderly even in busy locations like the AT&T Suffolk Street and Delancey Street in Manhattan's Lower East Side (according to MacRumors).  Louisville, Kentucky, New Jersey, and Montreal, Quebec were among the cities to have small lines of 100 people or less (via Twitter).  Despite the shorter lines, the phone reportedly sold out quickly.

The AT&T shops received stocks of approximately 60 units for those who did not preorder and many sold out within 20 minutes or less.  Stores will reportedly receive their next shipment 5 business days.  AT&T had already exhausted its pre-order supply a week ago.  Customers ordering over the last week will have to wait one to two weeks to have their phone delivery.

Outside the shops ringtone merchants and phone recyclers pestered many of the customers, try to get them to sell their older models for refurbishing, or to sell them ringtones or accessories.  Local TV channels even showed up to many of the events.

The phone costs $199 (16 GB) or $299 (32 GB) for new subscribers and as much as $599 (32 GB) for subscribers with under over a year left on their current contract.  Rather than risk a disastrous launch day OS update like last year (which saw Apple's servers crash from the traffic) the new OS v3.0 was released early this week, staggering the downloads from new phones and older iPhone 3G's 

The iPhone 3G S launch appears to have gone very well for Apple, and success seems certain for the powerful iPhone 3G S.  However, it features tough competition this fall from new Android handsets, the Blackberry Storm 2, the Palm Pre, and other phones such as the Nokia N97, or the Samsung Omnia Pro (Windows Mobile).

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iTear it starts ripping it apart
By crystal clear on 6/20/2009 9:12:23 AM , Rating: 2
Now lets tear it down to see whats inside-

iPhone 3G S Teardown

Crazy CEO Kyle Wiens arrived in London from California yesterday with the intention of queueing overnight to ensure he was first in line this morning to buy an iPhone 3G S.

No mere fanboy, this guy wanted the handset to being among the first geeks around the globe to disassemble Apple's faster, more capacious handset.... here are a selection of his snaps taken during his handset autopsy this morning.

By crystal clear on 6/20/2009 9:28:30 AM , Rating: 2
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Steve Jobs, the chief executive of Apple Inc, received a liver transplant about two months ago but is expected to return to work later this month, the Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday.

RE: iTear it starts ripping it apart
By crystal clear on 6/20/2009 10:13:01 AM , Rating: 2
We performed this disassembly immediately following the iPhone launch at 12:01 July 11, 2008, New Zealand time. That's 5:01 AM, July 10, Pacific time for those of us who aren't islanders.

By crystal clear on 6/20/2009 10:38:48 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry a mistake - the above post is not relevant,namely

iPhone launch at 12:01 July 11, 2008, New Zealand time.

O2 UK is reporting stronger sales
By Doormat on 6/19/2009 11:28:55 AM , Rating: 2
Per MacRumors, they said they've already sold more iPhone 3GS units than iPhone3G units on launch day last year. I found that surprising.

In the US, I've noticed a lot shorter lines (through TV coverage and web posts), however thats due to online pre-orders.

RE: O2 UK is reporting stronger sales
By Shadowself on 6/19/2009 3:02:06 PM , Rating: 2
I too find any statement that Apple/AT&T will have sold more iPhone 3G S variants (not including the now $99 3G) on Friday, Saturday and Sunday (including pre orders) than they did on the iPhone 3G first Friday, Saturday and Sunday as EXTREMELY suspect. The only way I'd believe that statement is if Apple explicitly states this in their SEC legal filings.

By Doormat on 6/19/2009 5:33:26 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't say extremely suspect.

Its just surprising based on the survey data put out so far (there seems to be less enthusiasm this time around). ATT said they've shipped phones in the "hundreds of thousands", and the analyst prediction is 500,000 units this weekend worldwide.

I think the short lead time and pre-ordering may have taken some of the wind out of their sails. When you spend weeks waiting for the release of something (think of the Southpark episode with Cartman and the Wii), you get amped up. Apple only left 11 days lead time between the announcement and the release of the phone. Then you could pre-order the phone and sit back and relax. No 9 hour waits lined up like I did for the first iPhone back in 2007. I even went about 4 weeks after the 3G release to upgrade and I still waited in line for 4 hours on a Sunday morning.

It certainly mutes the enthusiasm, but what they've done is lower the bar to get the phone quickly. You don't have to take a day off work and spend all night before lined up to get the phone on the first day. Assuming adequate supply, they can compress what might have been 2-3 weeks worth of sales into the first week because you have to line up for hours for one.

So it might be surprising until you realize the numerous avenues Apple and AT&T have to get the phone to customers.

Not sure about "smoothly"
By JasonPainter on 6/19/09, Rating: 0
RE: Not sure about "smoothly"
By Doormat on 6/19/2009 12:13:15 PM , Rating: 2
Apple had restricted delivery of any iPhone to the 19th, no one got their phone early.

RE: Not sure about "smoothly"
By 4runnerxp on 6/19/2009 12:36:13 PM , Rating: 2
I also preorderd a 16gb white 3g s and am still waiting to get it also....I waited 2 years for my verizon contract to expire im excited

RE: Not sure about "smoothly"
By JasonPainter on 6/19/2009 4:45:00 PM , Rating: 2
Low and behold both phones showed up today! When I tried to activate them it didn't work, I was told that it might take 48 hours to fix the issue and to wait for an email on how to fix it later.

By MrPerez on 6/22/2009 12:59:33 AM , Rating: 2
Its funny how consumers are paying for updated that should have been for free.

So auto focus (with NO flash), 16gig, "new" OS (NO qwerty kb) is really worth another 200 bucks +?

btw the 3GS's new network speed is useless under AT&T, the network does not support it, useless.

Next in line for apple to screw its consumers over is OSX service pack (Snow leopard) charging them for it, again silly.

RE: Silly
By dav115 on 6/22/2009 2:36:46 PM , Rating: 2
I tell you what else is funny - I can name at least five people I know who just recently put down £274 for the 3GS (plus £30 per month for 18 months) DESPITE being ~ 50% the way through their current iPhone contract... :/ Idiots...

RE: Silly
By callmeroy on 6/23/2009 8:38:43 AM , Rating: 2
While I agree with 90% of your comment, the 10% part is to let you know I don't think you saying that ATT doesn't support the new speed capabilities of the new IPhone is "news" to anyone.

I work with two guys that are way into the Iphone -- so for lunch we went to the Apple store by our office, the place was pretty crowded and everyone was in there talking about the new features -- the Apple store reps themselves , I overheard telling several people that the ATT network doesn't currently support the speed improves in our area yet. So if anyone thinks otherwise that's their fault with so much talk about it going on.

Alas....ATT has stated they are upgrading their network to accomodate the increased speeds and I believe some parts of the country will have the faster speeds for their Iphones at least --- as early as this fall.

By tubalcain on 6/19/2009 6:08:38 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know, but my sister went to an AT&T store this morning and bought a Black 32GB 3G S. No lines, nothing, she said the store was dead...I don't think there was too much noise anywhere else save for the obligatory fanboys and girls whose pictures are posted on various blogs and such. Face it, this is not the big event that people were waiting for, the updates were welcome but just not exciting.

RE: Malarky
By callmeroy on 6/23/2009 8:43:34 AM , Rating: 2
the store near my work was packed (as I mentioned in another post) my co-workers got one ...I didn't. I'm not shocked at that though since I work in PA - near Philadelphia and yuppy central , but I live in my house even the two Best Buys still had them in stock as late as this past weekend.

By wifiwolf on 6/19/2009 9:06:20 PM , Rating: 2
Enough of this year after year Apple show.
I'm feeling like I need to start a company selling something we already have in the market so it can have low production cost and only some indispensable features:
makes phone calls
has an integrated microphone,
a loudspeaker (hands free)
shiny look
and an integrated Shepherd

Anyone feeling wants to start it with me?
We just need to make pricing high enough so that 1st sheep to buy it will pay for production of a whole batch.

After this, forget it, I think Apple will call me next morning for a new CTO job.

By yacoub on 6/20/2009 7:53:33 AM , Rating: 2
Louisville, Kentucky, New Jersey, and Montreal, Quebec were among the cities

What city in New Jersey?

i wsh
By Azsen on 6/21/2009 9:39:33 PM , Rating: 2
I wish it was available in NZ and our company bought everyone one to use.,,

By sapiens74 on 6/20/2009 12:54:45 AM , Rating: 1
Why pay that Crazy Apple Tax when you get our solution for $200 or less

Windows 98 (AKA Windows Mobile 6.x) on many flavors of subpar phones!

By Bender 123 on 6/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: ?
By callmeroy on 6/19/2009 11:24:27 AM , Rating: 5
Dude it like has a compass application and a camera!

RE: ?
By TomZ on 6/19/2009 11:39:08 AM , Rating: 4
And autofocus! And copy-and-paste! Wow, I'm overwhelmed!

RE: ?
By JoshuaBuss on 6/19/2009 11:47:16 AM , Rating: 2
don't forget.. EETZ PHASTAR!1!1~eleven

RE: ?
By Bender 123 on 6/19/2009 11:57:14 AM , Rating: 3
Why would anybody wait in a line and dish out a couple hundies to get a processor upgrade, a video camera and several online features my carrier wont even let me use...

It just reminds me of the old Onion Video telling about the MacBook Wheel and people saying they will buy it because its Apple and it is shiny.

RE: ?
By SunAngel on 6/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: ?
By omnicronx on 6/19/2009 12:50:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yes because this is a yearly occurrence in which people line up at your local brick and mortar or computer store to get a 0.13GHZ upgrade!

RE: ?
By SunAngel on 6/19/2009 12:55:43 PM , Rating: 1
Ok, so your mad at the people and not Apple? I can accept that. From now on, we will just buy from Apple direct over their website. This way you won't have to see a line streching 2.3 blocks down the road. I'm working on spreading the word as I type this. Hopefully within a year your wish can come true.

RE: ?
By omnicronx on 6/19/2009 1:27:22 PM , Rating: 3
How can I be mad at Apple? For having great marketing which as a result created what can only be described as a cult following?

Just because I think someone is a moron for upgrading their phone every year to get a few more features, does not mean I hate Apple. Its not Apples fault that people are sheep.

RE: ?
By callmeroy on 6/23/2009 8:49:01 AM , Rating: 2
I think his original reply to you was because your point about folks waiting for what did you say...a .013 mhz upgrade from Intel for their PC was akin to the Iphone fanfare each year....or something along those lines...which is beyond no one does one has done that for YEARS (actually to be honest, in my area no one has EVER done that -- even on major Intel CPU launches -- I've never seen lines for them).

RE: ?
By SunAngel on 7/1/2009 10:39:52 PM , Rating: 2
Understood. But what explains the immediate sellouts of next-gen processors on Newegg/TigerDirect/Fry's/MicroCenter/....?

Just because you can see the line doesn't mean a line is not there.

Same as a fart. You don't see them, but oh boy, you definitely know something spectacular took place.

RE: ?
By michael2k on 6/20/2009 10:43:11 AM , Rating: 2
Be fair, its also a 27% CPU speed boost. People pay for that in PCs all the time!

RE: ?
By nuarbnellaffej on 6/21/2009 5:45:53 AM , Rating: 1
My brother bought a new mac recently, that had a minor upgrade in the processor range, on the line of 200MHz, and Mac's are Intel based now...

RE: ?
By themaster08 on 6/19/2009 11:38:21 AM , Rating: 2
I believe I've found the answer to your question.

RE: ?
By amanojaku on 6/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: ?
By tdawg on 6/19/2009 11:43:58 AM , Rating: 3
On a website that is home to people that pay relatively large sums of money for relatively small performance gains, it's hard to understand people paying money to upgrade their phone to a new version that is being reported here as 29%-59% faster?

RE: ?
By icanhascpu on 6/19/2009 1:26:21 PM , Rating: 1
Are you in the right place? People routinely replace technology devises that are only 1/3rd faster. This happens ALL THE TIME in EVERY INDUSTRY.

Now if only I could find a car that had 33% better gas mileage or 33% better torque or or...

Its not hard to understand, and its not a small performance game, not even 'relatively' unless you're comparing it against irrelevant crap.

RE: ?
By BrgMx5 on 6/19/2009 1:53:31 PM , Rating: 2
I believe you missed the irony of his post

RE: ?
By ClownPuncher on 6/19/2009 1:59:26 PM , Rating: 2
Irony? No. Missed the question mark at the end of his post? Yes.

RE: ?
By eddieroolz on 6/19/2009 12:05:21 PM , Rating: 2
Boo hoo, a 3.2MP camera.

Oh wait...I have a 5.2MP autofocus for up to 5 people and a 3.0" screen to go along with it. What's so great about this piece of crappy Apple hardware?

RE: ?
By michael2k on 6/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: ?
By xti on 6/19/09, Rating: 0
RE: ?
By ClownPuncher on 6/19/2009 1:15:25 PM , Rating: 2

RE: ?
By omnicronx on 6/19/2009 1:08:54 PM , Rating: 2
It has a better and faster web browser than your phone
Last year I would have 100% agreed with you, but other browsers are making great strides. Opera Mobile is becoming very impressive. The latests builds of 9.5 are rock solid, can go to many more webpages than the flashless iphone can go to and is starting to rival Safari in rendering speed. Opera 9.7 has taken this a step further, and while very buggy at the moment (which can be expected for a beta browser using a new JS engine) it renders pages faster than Safari without turbo mode enabled, and completely blows Safari out of the water when it is enabled in terms of speed. If Opera can work out the kinks, I feel they will have a better offering, especially when it can finally make use of multitouch.

To back up some of my claims, you will notice that Safari no longer holds the top mobile browser spot. As of early June Opera now holds 24.6% of the market while Safari on the iPhone holds 22.3%, while within a margin of error, it does show how competitive Opera Mobile has become. And this does not include those like who change the browser ID to that of a desktop version of IE so that I do not get mobile pages by default.

The iPhone having a 3.8" screen, you also do not know which phone is bigger, and looks are not universal, everyone has their own opinion on the matter.

RE: ?
By MScrip on 6/19/2009 7:34:13 PM , Rating: 3
As of early June Opera now holds 24.6% of the market while Safari on the iPhone holds 22.3%

The iPhone only has 8% of the global smartphone market... but it accounts for 43% of mobile Web requests and 65% of HTML usage.

RE: ?
By eddieroolz on 6/20/2009 6:18:16 AM , Rating: 2
Oh noes, the HTML bar adds up to 101%!!!


RE: ?
By eddieroolz on 6/20/2009 6:16:53 AM , Rating: 2
I would prefer a phone that doesn't crash, thanks.

Oh, and looks good. Not like a shiny piece of glorified plastic.

RE: ?
By michael2k on 6/19/2009 12:24:49 PM , Rating: 3
Not everyone has an iPhone, not even close.

So for people who skipped the first two, this is a huge improvement with a better camera, faster CPU, more RAM, better GPU, better GPS(compass), battery life, etc.

I mean, look at the fact the lines were shorter, this year, as proof that it isn't a huge deal.

RE: ?
By omnicronx on 6/19/09, Rating: 0
RE: ?
By omnicronx on 6/19/2009 12:29:58 PM , Rating: 4
Its still a very nice phone with the best UI and the most applications. What I just can't understand is how a large majority of these people who bought this phone probably own an iPhone already. What gets me even more is that there is no way every single person lined up is off contract, how many of them are paying full price for the phone? Its like they have a following of morons that are willing to sign over their lifesaving's for the latest and greatest.

The iPhone is a great device, but it is Apple and their marketing genius that sold these phones, not the hardware itself.

RE: ?
By michael2k on 6/19/2009 12:52:20 PM , Rating: 2
There are only 30m iPhones total, worldwide, and the US alone has 300m people.

We aren't even close to iPhone saturation. Many of the people I know ordering the 3GS are new to the iPhone. Most with the 3G are waiting for their contracts to expire.

RE: ?
By omnicronx on 6/19/2009 1:17:26 PM , Rating: 1
We aren't even close to iPhone saturation. Many of the people I know ordering the 3GS are new to the iPhone. Most with the 3G are waiting for their contracts to expire.
How could you possibly know what the saturation point is? You are basing this on absolutely nothing.

Furthermore the chances are most people with 3g contract are not expiring as it was only released last year with a 2 year minimum, otherwise they paid full price. Its not even likely that a lot of 2g contracts are over, as the vast majority of users went on 3 year contracts to get the cheapest price.

I'm working in downtown Toronto today and I had to go past a Rogers store (they are the iPhone provider in Canada) and there was a lineup out the door. Just walking by I noticed that no less than 3 people had their iPhone 3g IN THEIR HANDS! Whats even more ridiculous was the pricing on the door, 699/799 when bought without a contract! So please do not tell me that people are not upgrading their phone, because they are!

RE: ?
By michael2k on 6/20/2009 10:48:10 AM , Rating: 2
Uh, the only clue to smartphone and iPhone saturation is the smartphone market growth rate.

iPod growth leveled off as we approached saturation. The same will happen with iPhones and smartphones. So far growth has not leveled off.

RE: ?
By walk2k on 6/19/2009 7:07:35 PM , Rating: 2
Its like they have a following of morons that are willing to sign over their lifesaving's for the latest and greatest.
They do, Apple calls them "customers".

RE: ?
By Proxes on 6/19/2009 12:35:24 PM , Rating: 3
I'm still waiting for the Dailytech article about the Palm Pre launch.

Bunch of butt kissing Apple fanbois.

RE: ?
RE: ?
By Proxes on 6/19/2009 2:38:41 PM , Rating: 2
I looked under Gadgets/Mobile and it wasn't there. It's just under Gadgets.

RE: ?
By Doormat on 6/19/2009 1:32:03 PM , Rating: 2
I've heard DT called many things, but Apple fanbois has not been one of them, especially when you consider the DT community...

RE: ?
By inperfectdarkness on 6/19/2009 1:48:02 PM , Rating: 2
as the quote on DT goes...

the cell phone is still worth nothing.

RE: ?
By walk2k on 6/19/2009 4:48:42 PM , Rating: 2
Apple, that's why.

That's funny though, I just "upgraded" my phone for the $15 it cost to pop out the microSD card and replace it. lol

Deep down
By Totally on 6/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: Deep down
By michael2k on 6/19/2009 12:34:43 PM , Rating: 4
You don't know that at all.

RE: Deep down
By omnicronx on 6/19/2009 12:48:41 PM , Rating: 2
Neither do you.. I know tons of people that sold their 2g for the 3g when it came out. One great thing about the iPhone is that they retain their value, a few of my friends only paid $200 for the upgrade by selling their old phone on craigslist. It is more than likely that this was also the case this time around, although the 3g was a much bigger upgrade in my mind, its no fun surfing on a 2g network (and lets face it, 7.2M HSDPA access is few and far between in north america right now)

RE: Deep down
By quiksilvr on 6/21/2009 3:00:41 PM , Rating: 1
ONLY $200? The phone price WAS $200, remember that dramatic boom sound they made when they showed the price? That means the 2G ones didn't sell for much at all. $0 in fact.

RE: Deep down
By Shadowself on 6/19/2009 3:12:00 PM , Rating: 4
Actually, anyone who has been tracking this in even the most cursory fashion does know that the majority of iPhone 3G S purchasers (at least for the near term) are not iPhone 3G owners. AT&T is not (and thus Apple is not) subsidizing the price for the vast majority of current iPhone 3G owners as much as those with contracts on the original iPhone or non AT&T customers. Bought your iPhone 3G last October? Pay $499 for that new 32 GB iPhone 3G S instead of $299 ($399 versus $199 for the 16 Gb version)!

Additionally, with the free upgrade to the 3.0 OS the iPhone 3G has most of the capabilities of the iPhone 3G S. Thus many of the trade rag web sites have reported that their informal surveys show the majority of iPhone 3G users won't be upgrading -- at least not soon anyway. Why pay $499 for something only marginally better?

RE: Deep down
By FaaR on 6/20/2009 10:25:40 PM , Rating: 2
People may pay if they feel the value matches or exceeds the asking price, and they have the money to spend of course, as with most any electronic product. The 3G S really is no different than upgrading your 3870 video card for a 4890; little in the way of added features, just more of the same and faster at a price.

Revolutionary leaps are far and few between, even in the tech industry. Most naysayers would argue even the original iphone was not much of a giant leap for mankind...

As for myself, I'll probably get a 3G S when it launches in my territory, even despite Apple vastly overcharging people on the hardware (and particulary on the 32GB model). I've had various Ericsson, Sony Ericsson and Nokias in the past, and never really liked any of them or their menus. At least iphone brings something new on that front for me.

RE: Deep down
By Doormat on 6/19/2009 12:45:11 PM , Rating: 2
Even if your unsupported premise is true (which I doubt, I know many Verizon switchers headed out today), why is it a waste? Everyone I know who is upgrading is selling their old iPhone or iPhone 3G to someone else. Its great for AT&T because those people will become high margin customers.

Its not like a PC where you use it for a while and then the technology has changed so much its not useful anymore (who is still running a P4 CPU?). The market for EDGE iPhones is still pretty good because of the $20/mo data/sms service instead of the $30+ data service for 3G phones. I think this is one of the reasons AT&T is OK with letting those eligible for upgrades in July, August and September upgrade now because they realize that those folks just sell or hand their phones down to others, who still pay the $30/mo for data service.

RE: Deep down
By teng029 on 6/20/2009 6:34:34 PM , Rating: 2
so what if they are? it's not your money they're spending.

"A lot of people pay zero for the cellphone ... That's what it's worth." -- Apple Chief Operating Officer Timothy Cook

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