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Apple, HTC kiss and make up

Before his death, former Apple CEO Steve Jobs stated that he was willing to go "thermonuclear" on Google and the manufacturers that produce devices running Android OS. It appears that current Apple CEO Tim Cook, however, is taking a softer approach on the warfront.
 
Apple and HTC have been in and out of court for years, battling over smartphone patents. Most recently, Apple lost its bid to ban HTC's One X and EVO 4G LTE over its claim of infringement on a "data tapping" patent. However, both companies announced yesterday that the two companies have reached a settlement on all pending litigation. All current lawsuits are being tossed and the two companies have entered into a ten-year licensing agreement.


Apple CEO Tim Cook [Image Source: David Paul Morris / Bloomberg]
 
“HTC is pleased to have resolved its dispute with Apple, so HTC can focus on innovation instead of litigation,” said HTC CEO Peter Chou.
 
“We are glad to have reached a settlement with HTC,” said Apple CEO Tim Cook. “We will continue to stay laser focused on product innovation.”

The terms of the agreement are confidential.


HTC CEO Peter Chou [Image Source: Tomohiro Ohsumi/Bloomberg]
 
HTC has been taking on water in recent months, and has seen an erosion of profits as Samsung has strengthened its position in the smartphone market.
 
HTC has also made drastic cuts to its research and development programs while also scaling back its marketing efforts. Perhaps Apple just doesn't see much of a threat from HTC anymore, and was more willing to make a deal.
 
Apple still has a hard-on for Samsung, so we doubt that the boys from Cupertino will be reaching any licensing agreements with that South Korean electronics giant any time soon.

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What innovation?
By justjc on 11/11/2012 6:14:27 PM , Rating: 5
Someone please tell Tim Cook that their laser focus on innovation seems to be broken. Not only are they one of the technology firms investing the least percentages of their revenue on innovation, most of that on buying innovative companies, but their iPad Mini clearly shows that Tim Cooks Apple are followers and not leaders in innovation.




RE: What innovation?
By StevoLincolnite on 11/11/2012 10:03:21 PM , Rating: 2
Apple could have decided to cut it's losses because HTC did acquire S3 graphics which has decades worth of graphics I.P under it's hood, most notably S3 texture compression which Apple didn't license.

It's a more credible I.P than a shape anyway.


RE: What innovation?
By GulWestfale on 11/11/12, Rating: 0
RE: What innovation?
By FaaR on 11/12/2012 12:45:48 AM , Rating: 2
Apple doesn't need to license S3TC because Apple doesn't invent or manufacture graphics processors.


RE: What innovation?
By StevoLincolnite on 11/12/2012 6:06:30 AM , Rating: 3
No. But it makes API's and if it wants S3 texture compression in it's graphics API's they must license it, hence why Microsoft license's it due to Direct X.


RE: What innovation?
By Tony Swash on 11/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: What innovation?
By nafhan on 11/12/2012 10:47:26 AM , Rating: 1
"Uhm, uhm, uhm, Apple's still innovating! Look they spent a bunch of money on manufacturing equipment!" You're reaching, man.

Anyway, Apple signed a licensing deal with an Android handset manufacturer. We don't know why, but I can say with 100% certainty that "licensing deal" is VERY different from "thermonuclear war".

I'd also guess that coming to an agreement with HTC has more to do with long term strategy in their battle with Samsung than anything specific about HTC. For instance, it could be used to make it look like Samsung is the unreasonable party, rather than Apple.


RE: What innovation?
By Tony Swash on 11/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: What innovation?
By Proposer88 on 11/12/2012 12:55:14 PM , Rating: 4
Oh, boy, where to start?
1) Job's remarks were not, repeat, WERE NOT "off the cuff". They are written in his F********* official biography by his F********** official biographer
2) Do you know EXACTLY when Steve Jobs said that? Do you know if he was in pain when saying it? No, you don't
3) In any case, even assuming his illness somehow affected his brain and made him say things he wouldn't otherwise say, he still was the CEO of Apple when he said them.


RE: What innovation?
By Helbore on 11/12/2012 1:32:03 PM , Rating: 2
How'd you know the details of the secret agreement, Tony? Do you know if Apple are paying anything to HTC for use of their patents, as is common in cross-licensing deals?

Plus "move towards Windows Phones?" You do know that HTC have been manufacturing Windows Mobiles for years before Apple ever released the first iPhone, right?


RE: What innovation?
By Cheesew1z69 on 11/12/2012 1:35:25 PM , Rating: 3
Psst, he works for Apple if you haven't figured it out by now...

but shhh, it's secret!


RE: What innovation?
By nafhan on 11/12/2012 3:58:26 PM , Rating: 3
So, what Steve Jobs says is the gospel... unless he said something dumb. Then it's the "off the cuff remarks of a man in pain and dying of cancer"!?!

I thought you had already reached bottom with your nonsense. Boy was I was wrong...


RE: What innovation?
By nafhan on 11/12/2012 4:21:08 PM , Rating: 3
'nother question since you seem to have the inside line on this: Was Stevo's comments regarding 7" tablets also the cancer speaking?


If Apple changed its ways
By ShaolinSoccer on 11/12/2012 5:47:29 AM , Rating: 5
I would be willing to buy Apple products if the company would change its ways. I'm one of those guys that has actually been "wanting" to buy certain Apple products but I keep telling myself not to because I just can't support a company like Apple with the kind of business practices it uses. That being said, if they stop trying to sue people for stupid reasons, stop telling people they are holding their devices wrong and stop (insert countless other things here), I will start buying Apple products. It might take me awhile to forgive them but ya, I WILL start buying their products. I know their company won't read this rant so I am probably just wasting my time typing this...




RE: If Apple changed its ways
By JackBurton on 11/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: If Apple changed its ways
By Rukkian on 11/12/2012 11:46:11 AM , Rating: 2
I guess you must have your apple blinders on, becuase it would be tough to not see innovation in many products. Many of the things you now use in your ios device was an innovation in android long before Apple invented it.

I know, I know before apple invented them you (and every other apple fanboy) did not need the innovation. Once Apple then invented it, it was awesome and now completely needed.

I can see saying that you don't like certain apps, or don't like having a bigger phone, as those are personal choices, but saying you do not see innovation makes you look like a complete fanboy.

I personally don't own any ios devices, but my wife and several family members do. I see benefits of both, and like seeing new ideas pushed forward. My wife is alot like you, always says my phone is too difficult, and she does not want to see anything change, cause she does not want to learn anything new.

I hope that we see a few more of these agreements (would be nice to see them across the board) so all parties can just make their own devices and compete on price/features instead on in a courtroom. It would be awesome IMO if this was just the first and we see several more come out.


RE: If Apple changed its ways
By Cheesew1z69 on 11/12/2012 11:48:33 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
but saying you do not see innovation makes you look like a complete fanboy.
There is no looking, he is..


RE: If Apple changed its ways
By nikon133 on 11/12/2012 3:27:24 PM , Rating: 1
That's like being upset at the property owner when he tries to file charges against the thief.

No, it is like filing charges against someone who has something that vaguely looks like something you have.

On the contrary, I'll start buying another phone/tablet other than Apple's when I actually see some innovation from the other side.

Then you should already have Surface tablet and Windows Phone 7.5 by now..?


By TakinYourPoints on 11/12/2012 10:06:00 PM , Rating: 2
Seems like a silly reason not to buy something. All businesses play dirty pool, Samsung included.

If I based my buying decisions on business practices and ads that I dislike then I wouldn't have any tech gadgets. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Amazon, Apple, none of them.

I don't particularly care for most of Apple's legal action and advertising, but I don't judge products on that, I judge them on their technical and practical merits. The iPhone 5 happens to have the fastest hardware running the best apps with the best battery life (double the LTE browsing time of something like the S3). That's all that really matters to me. The rest is sideshow BS that these multinationals will shake out and for fanboys to yell at each other on forums over.


The Real Story......
By Chosonman on 11/12/2012 9:23:20 AM , Rating: 2
Without a clear competitor to Samsung in the Andriod Market Samsung has run away with the market and is poised to be the dominant player. Thanks to Apple they forced the smaller players to think twice about entering into the Android smart phone market leaving Samsung as the only company to have the resources to face Apple thus leaving Samsung as the sole dominant player in that market. Now that the Samsung Galaxy has started to surpass the Iphone in sales, Apple has decided to settle with Sumsung's main competitor in the Android market HTC.




Apple will keep suing Samsung
By BifurcatedBoat on 11/12/2012 5:45:41 PM , Rating: 2
and Samsung will keep raising the price of components for the iPad to make up the difference.




By corduroygt on 11/12/2012 1:23:53 AM , Rating: 1
The point of this is to show a jury or a judge: "look, all our competitors, MS, Nokia, HTC are licensing our patents but Samsung is hell bent on stealing"




Poor HTC
By ViroMan on 11/11/12, Rating: -1
RE: Poor HTC
By AMDftw on 11/11/2012 5:21:18 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, I bet it was hard to swallow the load as well.


RE: Poor HTC
By Cheesew1z69 on 11/12/2012 10:39:14 AM , Rating: 2
Tony finds the loads easy to swallow. He does it daily.


what was the point of this article?
By bjacobson on 11/11/12, Rating: -1
RE: what was the point of this article?
By ritualm on 11/11/2012 4:26:13 PM , Rating: 5
There are no details of the settlement because the settlement itself is not open for public viewing. It won't matter anyways. Apple wins, everyone loses, end of story.


RE: what was the point of this article?
By StealthX32 on 11/11/2012 4:28:38 PM , Rating: 2
It'd still be good to know what the active lawsuits were between the two.


RE: what was the point of this article?
By bupkus on 11/12/2012 12:21:26 AM , Rating: 2
HTC is irrelevant. If Samsung goes down Android withers in the United States. But China is where Apple needs to focus.
The question seems to be, how can Apple hurt Samsung in China?


RE: what was the point of this article?
By Samus on 11/12/2012 12:38:58 AM , Rating: 2
I have a sad feeling Apple is going to get half the profit of each HTC handset sold...

HTC had no choice, they lack the legal empire of Samsung and Google, and simply can't afford to fight Apple.


By inperfectdarkness on 11/12/2012 2:06:36 AM , Rating: 2
this. times eleventy


By Tony Swash on 11/12/2012 10:43:20 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I have a sad feeling Apple is going to get half the profit of each HTC handset sold...


I guess with that windfall Apple can afford new coffee mugs for the top management team. Does HTC even make profits anymore?


By spaced_ on 11/12/2012 2:52:22 AM , Rating: 2
What the fudge is the point of this comment?


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