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Apple Wireless Keyboard  (Source: Image via Apple)

Apple Bluetooth Keyboard back  (Source: Image via FCC)
Apple seeks FCC approval for Apple Wireless Keyboard using Bluetooth technology

Last week when Apple announced the new iMac computers, they also showed off a couple new keyboards. One of the new Apple keyboards was a thin-wired version connecting to a Mac via USB.

The other more interesting keyboard unveiled with the new iMac, for those who shun wires, was the much tidier looking Apple Wireless Keyboard. While the wired version of the Apple Keyboard shows to ship in three to five days, the wireless version shows that it ships in four to six weeks.

Apple didn’t give any reasons as to why the wireless version was delayed so much, but the answer is the wireless keyboard was awaiting FCC approval. We found the FCC filing today and noticed while Apple requested none of their images be released until August 30; the FCC posted a shot they took of the back of the keyboard where the FCC sticker will reside.

The FCC documents show the keyboard will be 4.2mm thick with a width of 275.92mm and a depth of 108.32mm. A safe bet will be that the keyboard is available for purchase on August 30th.



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Nice keyboard...
By daftrok on 8/14/2007 3:02:54 AM , Rating: 5
Its a shame there's no rechargeable battery and USB 2.0 output so if your battery is low you can just plug it in while it charges




RE: Nice keyboard...
By InternetGeek on 8/14/2007 3:26:52 AM , Rating: 5
For just $79 Apple will send you a fully charged replacement and provide you with a courtesy keyboard while the replacement arrives. If you complain they'll just won't answer until the Sony battery does its thing.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By Future145 on 8/14/2007 8:03:13 AM , Rating: 3
lol you made my morning.
apple and their crazy battery solutions.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By FITCamaro on 8/14/2007 8:06:45 AM , Rating: 3
No you gotta pay extra for the courtesy keyboard.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By headbox on 8/14/2007 5:44:22 AM , Rating: 3
You've never heard of rechargeable AA batteries?


RE: Nice keyboard...
By InternetGeek on 8/14/2007 5:49:37 AM , Rating: 5
I have, but this is Apple who we're talking about.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 9:37:35 AM , Rating: 2
you have 4mm thick AA batteries? hook it up!
with a keyboard that thin, no normal battery would fit, apple or not ;)

on a side note, you would think a company would come up with a tiny wireless keyboard like this one, which uses solar power like calculators do, in fact if the keyboard was a translucent colour, you could make the whole thing a solar panel. How much power could a tiny keyboard with low power blue tooth actually use? seems like the perfect match to me.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By mdogs444 on 8/14/2007 9:44:19 AM , Rating: 2
The entire keyboard is NOT 4.2mm. Its very clear from the picture where the AA/AAA batteries go.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By Frank M on 8/14/2007 9:47:00 AM , Rating: 2
The tube near the top doesn't look to be 4mm thick, if you compare it to the size of the keys. That looks like it could easily hold a couple AAA or AA batteries.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By kkwst2 on 8/14/2007 9:50:06 AM , Rating: 1
Hmm, did you look at the picture? Even better, did you click on the link? Probably not, since it states pretty clearly on the Apple Store link that it takes AAA batteries. Well actually, it just says it includes them in the box. Maybe they're used as weights to keep the wafer thin keyboard from blowing away.

See the round tubular structure at the top of the keyboard... with the end cap that looks like it might twist off... with the notch in it where one might insert a screwdriver to untwist said cap?

The solar thing sounds like a great idea. Because I usually try to use my keyboard in lots of direct sunlight. I never have a need to use my keyboard in low light conditions. Sorry... :)


RE: Nice keyboard...
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 10:30:36 AM , Rating: 1
Thanks guys! sometimes it takes me 3 posts to get i'm wrong ;)
quote:
The solar thing sounds like a great idea. Because I usually try to use my keyboard in lots of direct sunlight. I never have a need to use my keyboard in low light conditions. Sorry... :)
how much power to do you think a keyboard actually requires? i would be interested in knowing. Calculators with the tiny solar panels in them right now do not need direct sunlight, but any light source whether it be sunlight or artificial.
I see no reason why if half the keyboard was a panel, that it could not be powered, especially the keyboard design is ultra basic.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By TomZ on 8/14/2007 10:49:00 AM , Rating: 3
Your solar calculator also doesn't have to do an RF transmission for each key press and key release.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 10:54:40 AM , Rating: 1
I am only talking in theory, and there is no RF transmission when using blue tooth, (of course there is still a signal being sent) but by nature its a low power signal, perfect for this kind of use. If my bluetooth keyboard can run for 3 months with 4 double AA batteries, powering an LCD screen and a bunch of media keys, I am sure someone could create a solar powered system that would last a day or two without any light at all.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 11:04:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
and there is no RF transmission when using blue tooth, (of course there is still a signal being sent)


shouldn't have said that, obviously there is still an RF signal being sent, its just much lower power than normal wireless RF signals.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By daftrok on 8/14/2007 1:24:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yes I have, but you still need to take the rechargeable AAA batteries out to charge them, rendering the keyboard useless while they're charging.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 1:39:00 PM , Rating: 2
Or you have two sets of batteries? Keep one charged while the other is being used. Thats what i did with my 360 before i got the recharge pack, didn't phase me too much.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By mdogs444 on 8/14/2007 8:38:55 AM , Rating: 2
I agree about the USB 2.0 outputs, but how many keyboards today come with rechargable battery packs? Not very many, if any. Using standard AA batteries the keyboard will still last quite a while.


RE: Nice keyboard...
By dave92284 on 8/14/2007 2:09:56 PM , Rating: 2
Everybody's missed the boat.
Make the keyboard keystroke powered....
Piezo powered....


wow
By WileCoyote on 8/14/2007 9:53:10 AM , Rating: 5
The same people that can't figure out where the batteries go are the ones that argue over global warming, physics, and other various intellectual issues. No wonder I never read the comments.




RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/07, Rating: 0
RE: wow
By TomZ on 8/14/2007 10:45:56 AM , Rating: 2
I think you missed the point.


RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/07, Rating: 0
RE: wow
By Vanilla Thunder on 8/14/2007 12:05:13 PM , Rating: 1
Omnicronx,
Normally, I would keep my mouth shut, but you bitch more than anyone that posts here. Your pessimistic arrogance does not make for good reading. It comes off more like a 17 year old meathead who is having trouble getting laid. Relax man, it's only a forum, and it's only an opinion.
Commence with the whining flame machine....

Vanilla


RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/07, Rating: 0
RE: wow
By Vanilla Thunder on 8/14/2007 12:31:57 PM , Rating: 2
Thank you for putting me in my place. Without your trolling sarcasm I wouldn't have realized how knotted up my panties were. I am now experiencing improved circulation and heightened arousal. You're the man.

Vanilla


RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 12:44:55 PM , Rating: 1
See now thats not so hard is it? You have a gripe with me make a funny yet witty comment like you did. I respect those who can turn what i say into a clever insult, i do not respect those that think their opinion is the only opinion (i.e the person who started this thread).

If the world had only conservative views we would constantly be at war, if we had only liberal views, we would all be a bunch of pansies. I think we have to meet right in the middle to get anything done.


RE: wow
By TomZ on 8/14/2007 1:50:15 PM , Rating: 2
Your responses only help to prove Vanilla's point.


RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/07, Rating: -1
RE: wow
By Vanilla Thunder on 8/14/07, Rating: -1
RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/07, Rating: -1
RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 2:57:32 PM , Rating: 2
I just do not see what your problem is TomZ, as i have had many intelligent conversations with you over matters we obviously disagree on. Not once have i called you stupid, called you out, or made a stupid comment directed at you because your views are different(before this post of course ;) ). You make your point, based on your opinion, and i make mine in the same fashion.

so once again, if you do not agree with what i have to say, and can only come up with or agree to a bunch of insults directed at me, how does this make you any better than the way i am apparently 'acting'?


RE: wow
By Rollomite on 8/14/2007 4:21:01 PM , Rating: 1
Opinions are like assholes. We all have one, and occasionally, you run into a stinky one. Here's to fruitless debating!!


RE: wow
By TomZ on 8/14/2007 4:27:15 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I just think you overreacted to the OP, to my post, and to the others, that's all. I will concede that some of Vanilla's criticism was a bit over-the-top, and I didn't mean to say that I agree with everything that was said.


RE: wow
By omnicronx on 8/14/2007 5:52:13 PM , Rating: 2
Ya i probably did overreact, things went a bit over bored after that too heh.


Standard Battery
By nomagic on 8/14/2007 5:51:42 AM , Rating: 2
It would be awesome for the keyboard to use standard triple A battery. When the battery is out of juice, I can simply recycle and replace. However, I wont be surprised if the keyboard uses custom rechargeable battery.




RE: Standard Battery
By DragonMaster0 on 8/14/2007 8:53:28 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
However, I wont be surprised if the keyboard uses custom rechargeable battery.

Especially if it's 4.2mm thick.


RE: Standard Battery
By Tiamat on 8/14/2007 9:12:34 AM , Rating: 3
Its much more than 4.2mm thick where the batteries go... Check out the picture again.


RE: Standard Battery
By Oregonian2 on 8/14/2007 2:18:32 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, and that battery would be soldered in and not user replaceable. You could send it in and have it replaced (they provide an email address to which you can write an email to find out the status of your keyboard and when it'll return).

Yes, I know it uses standard batteries, but it's out of character for Apple (Re: iPhone where it's equally dumb to require it being sent-in).


News Flash: DT scoops week old story!!!
By ToeCutter on 8/14/2007 10:00:51 AM , Rating: 2
Considering this product was announced and previewed ad nauseum over a week ago, how'd it make one of DT's top stories today? <shrug>.

Second, to all the Apple-whiners out there: The new wireless keyboard requires 3 AA batteries for power (which Apple includes, in the box), and it said to last 9 freaking months on a single charge. How can anyone complain about performance like that? It works out to pennies a day for crying out loud!

Apple has demonstrated remarkable engineering prowess with both their wireless keyboards and mice. My wireless Mighty Mouse can go months on two Ni-Cad AA's, as does my wireless keyboard. The same of which can't be said for my Logitech MX700 Wireless. And each the Apple periphs work flawlessly with Vista.

I'm not sure what more could be asked of Apple, save the lack of a num pad?

The only whining about this product should be that no one can get one for a month or so...




RE: News Flash: DT scoops week old story!!!
By JackBeQuick on 8/14/2007 10:03:15 AM , Rating: 2
Well, even if it was announced a week ago. it really did just get it's FCC approval. Apple has a tendency to announce things before the FCC says OK, which is my guess as to why the Apple website says 4-6 weeks for delivery.


By ToeCutter on 8/14/2007 10:10:00 AM , Rating: 2
My point is that most of the FCC approval stories "reveal" a product that had been "secret" until the FCC docs revealed it.

This thing has been all over the web. Some of the Apple blog sites posted hi res images a week before the official announcement.

Besides, 2 weeks is nothing compared so some of the "soft" video card launches we've seen :-/


By Vanilla Thunder on 8/14/2007 12:09:46 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
My wireless Mighty Mouse can go months on two Ni-Cad AA's


Now if they could only fit that pesky right button on there...

Vanilla


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