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Foxconn will fully cooperate with the investigation into alleged employee abuse

Apple has been facing a lot of accusations that the facilities where its popular gadgets like the iPad and iPhone are constructed use unfair labor practices. Foxconn is the company that builds these devices for Apple and over the past year, Foxconn has been the center of attention in several high-profile cases of employee suicides and attempted suicides allegedly due to working conditions.
Apple tried to put out these fires and has long maintained that it supports fair labor standards across the globe. Apple has now announced that it is instigated a voluntary inspection of Foxconn facilities that manufacture its products by the Fair Labor Association or FLA. Apple reports that the team of experts in labor rights led by FLA president Auret van Heerden will begin the first inspections at the Foxconn facility in Shenzhen known as Foxconn City.
“We believe that workers everywhere have the right to a safe and fair work environment, which is why we’ve asked the FLA to independently assess the performance of our largest suppliers,” said Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO. “The inspections now underway are unprecedented in the electronics industry, both in scale and scope, and we appreciate the FLA agreeing to take the unusual step of identifying the factories in their reports.”
[Source: Digital Trends]

Apple says that the FLA will interview thousands of employees about the working and living conditions at the facility as well as health and safety conditions. The labor rights experts will also talk with employees about their compensation, working hours, and communication with management. While employee interviews are going on, other FLA workers will inspect the facility to determine working conditions as well as inspect the manufacturing areas, dormitories, and other facilities. The goal of the FLA investigation is to look at all aspects and stages of employment.
Apple reports its suppliers will fully cooperate with the FLA and offer unrestricted access to operations for the purposes of the investigation. The findings and recommendations that the FLA makes will be posted in early March on the website This investigation will cover 90% of the facilities where all Apple products are constructed.
Activist groups were protesting at Apple Stores this month against alleged poor treatment of workers in Apple manufacturing facilities. Current Apple CEO Tim Cook was outraged by the allegations of worker abuse.
Foxconn was also recently the target of a hacker attack that was able to get the CEOs password and corporate documents were stolen as well.

Source: Apple

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no subject, i won't enter my comment subject
By hexxthalion on 2/13/2012 11:04:47 AM , Rating: 2
what about others? surely foxconn doesn't manufacture only for apple

RE: no subject, i won't enter my comment subject
By MrBlastman on 2/13/2012 11:11:17 AM , Rating: 3
You're right. Foxconn makes products for many businesses. The Apple division, however, is afforded special arrangements to facilitate the huge demands Apple places on them. The other divisions are supposedly run a bit differently.

RE: no subject, i won't enter my comment subject
By tastyratz on 2/13/2012 11:58:49 AM , Rating: 1
While the apple division is technically owned by Foxconn, it might as well be a totally different company. Apple dictates the conditions just as well as if they owned it for their division.

By hexxthalion on 2/13/2012 3:09:39 PM , Rating: 4
and your claims are supported by.... what? nothing, I thought so

By Reclaimer77 on 2/13/2012 3:54:12 PM , Rating: 2
Apple dictates the conditions just as well as if they owned it for their division.

Not to defend Apple, because I openly hate them, but I kinda have to call FUD on that one.

By tastyratz on 2/14/2012 1:57:46 PM , Rating: 2
How can that just be fud?
Very simple: Apple picks a manufacturer, sets a price point, and makes demands. If foxconn would start making bad parts Apple would drop them or force negotiations.

The fact that this has been a known issue for a long time means that apple clearly is just not pressing hard enough to do something, but just hard enough to say they tried. They could easily set demands and you know what? Foxconn either met them or apple found another supplier. It's ruled by indirect rule. Apple is free to shop someone else or force Foxconn to shape up.

I have a feeling this will be like Iraq and WMDs.
By rika13 on 2/13/2012 11:09:09 AM , Rating: 5
I'm willing to bet Foxconn is just hiding their evilness until the FLA is done then will probably throw a few people off the roof to make up for lost time.

By bigdawg1988 on 2/13/2012 2:34:13 PM , Rating: 2
My thinking exactly.
The factories are in China, which isn't the most wide open place in the world. Bet they only get to interview the "happiest" employees and only when the Chinese are given advance notice to "ready the employees for inspection." I will only believe it if they are allowed to do random inspections when and where they want, and allowed to interview randomly chosen employees, without the company or government being given the employees' names.
This is just a big PR move on Apple's part. They know good and well those people won't be given real access to the employees or the plant. Glad I don't own any Apple products.
Wonder how different the Apple plants are compared to everyone else, and why Apple gets such special treatment. Apparently the reality distortion field works worldwide.

By Motoman on 2/13/2012 2:53:02 PM , Rating: 1
And Apple will be OK with them doing that. As will Apple consumers.

RE: I have a feeling this will be like Iraq and WMDs.
By tayb on 2/13/2012 10:10:29 PM , Rating: 1
You must be okay with it as well seeing as you posted that comment electronically from some sort of computing product. You devil.

By Motoman on 2/14/2012 9:30:04 AM , Rating: 2
All you can do is endeavor to choose the lesser of the available evils.

Apple has been the most evil of all for a very, very long time. Any company whose primary mission statement is to profit from the gullibility of uninformed consumers by selling them laughably defective, poorly designed, wildly overpriced toys under the guise of providing them with the hive-mind social acceptability they crave is evil. Well before any of the suicides started happening.

By toyotabedzrock on 2/13/2012 6:14:47 PM , Rating: 2
FLA has a history of helping cover up just this type of thing.

apple iNett
By kattanna on 2/13/2012 11:17:41 AM , Rating: 5

i posted this a week or so ago, but is highly relevant to this story


RE: apple iNett
By testerguy on 2/13/2012 12:52:15 PM , Rating: 2
lol that is brilliant


RE: apple iNett
By bigdawg1988 on 2/13/2012 2:37:54 PM , Rating: 1
LOL, I'm out of votes, but +1 to you anyway!

Many fanboys
By tayb on 2/13/2012 10:08:17 PM , Rating: 2
Are hypocrites.

The irony of someone using their cell phone, laptop, or desktop to bash Apple and Apple fans for being inhumane is one of the most ironic things I have ever seen. It would be like me sitting in a Hummer at a stop light telling the guy driving a Ferrari next to me that he is an evil sack of **** who doesn't care about the environment.

Let me disconnect myself from reality, ignore all facts, and continue living the "dream" that Apple is the only company in the world who uses cheap foreign labor. At least in this reality I can endlessly bash Apple for doing something every single phone maker in the world does.

RE: Many fanboys
By Rukkian on 2/14/2012 11:48:53 AM , Rating: 2
Which companies are you referring to that keep getting reports of poor conditions? Oh wait the only one that keeps coming up is from Apple. We all know that other companies use foxconn, but there have not been reports (unless I missed all of them) on their working conditions.

You also do not see other companies coming out and claiming that the plant is more like a vacation spot than a work place (movie theatres, doctor offices, etc) while doing absolutely nothing about the reports of abuses.

what a joke
By DoeBoy on 2/13/2012 11:14:19 AM , Rating: 2
This won't stop the use of child labor.

RE: what a joke
By testerguy on 2/13/2012 12:50:16 PM , Rating: 1
So what will? And who's responsibility is it to do whatever this mystical solution is?

We're forgetting...
By The0ne on 2/13/2012 1:15:41 PM , Rating: 2
It would be nice to have a little history on this matter when it comes to investigations and reports, such as those reported by DU years ago about Apple knowing and doing absolutely nothing about them.

How is this going to be any different? How reliable or costly is it going to be to pay this group off. IMO this is just a PR show and there may be some changes but I highly doubt there will be an overhaul to change working conditions at Foxconn.

There are already companies there that treat workers right. You guys just don't know about them. But there are a gazillion of companies that do what Foxconn does and a few much much worse. How is Foxconn going to be the only one to change while the rest of the bad bunch remaining the same? It doesn't take one, it's going to take a lot more. But maybe this one will make others think different...oh wait, I'm thinking American and this is China we're talking about :) It ain't going to happen and the Chinese government can see to that as well.

By toyotabedzrock on 2/13/2012 2:19:18 PM , Rating: 2 Is A Spin Group That Helps Corporations Avoid Working Standards For Overseas Factories And Sweat Shops

By messele on 2/13/2012 11:23:55 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah? So what are you viewing the internet on, your all American Yankee-Doodle-Dandy blue collar PeeCee no doubt.

By Flunk on 2/13/2012 12:08:03 PM , Rating: 2
Can't, those are all made by Dell, HP, Gateway (just kidding, they're owned by the Taiwanese now). Not that many big US PC makers anymore and they all outsource to China.

By messele on 2/13/2012 2:52:45 PM , Rating: 2

Taking the moral high ground about labour conditions of electronics manufacturers on the internet is irony to the power of irony.

By Beenthere on 2/13/2012 6:26:37 PM , Rating: 2
All the more reason to force them to bring production back to the U.S.

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