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Apple says "Screw You Guys" to South Park creators

Apple's iPhone is the clear leader in the smartphone category and its App Store is doing exceptionally well with users downloading numerous applications for the iPhone and the iPod touch. Some of the apps have sold hundreds or even thousands of copies.

However, some app developers are finding that getting their proposed apps approved by Apple can be challenging. The latest App to get the denial letter from Apple was from South Park Digital Studios. The company behind the popular cartoon Series South Park wanted to sell an app on the App Store that would provide fans of the show with easy access to clips from episodes and other content.

Apple says that the application for the app was denied because the app could be "potentially offensive" to some users. The interesting part is that the App Store is chocked full of apps that make boobs jiggle in images and produce fart sound effects.

The studio says that it applied more than once for approval for its app, but that it was denied each time. The studio said in a statement, "At this point, we are sad to say, the app is dead in the water. Sorry, South Park fans."

Apple does say that its standards are evolving so the door is potentially open for a South Park app in the future. The studio didn’t specify if the app was intended to be free or a paid app. Apple says that since the App Store opened users hove downloaded 500 million apps in the last six months. Currently there are 15,000 applications on the App Store and the number continues to grow.

Apple was the subject of developer's ire not long ago when the company was placing rejection letters under NDA to keep developers from speaking out after being denied. Apple later came removed the NDA stipulation from rejection letters it sends out.

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3rd party site
By Screwballl on 2/18/2009 10:36:27 AM , Rating: 3
As I do not have one of these phones, I would still assume that with the jailbreak and other apps available, there should still be a way for an unofficial site to host this app.

RE: 3rd party site
By Aeros on 2/18/2009 10:48:07 AM , Rating: 5
For iPhone owners, like myself, the despotism shown here by Apple is afirmation for all to jailbreak their devices and support 3rd party apps.

Hopefully if enough people give Apple the middle finger they'll change their policies.

RE: 3rd party site
By rudy on 2/18/2009 10:54:47 AM , Rating: 5
How about buy a different device, makes no sense to buy it they still get their money from you.

RE: 3rd party site
By quiksilvr on 2/18/2009 11:00:42 AM , Rating: 5
EXACTLY! I'm so sick of these hypocritical idiots that bitch and moan about how Apple sux or how Microsoft sux and they still buy iPods and run Windows. Either get a Creative and Linux or STFU!

RE: 3rd party site
By therealnickdanger on 2/18/2009 11:47:25 AM , Rating: 5
Whoa man, switch to decaf...

In truth, if everyone who claims "_____ sux!!1" actually took the time to figure what he is doing wrong (user error can account for 99.9% of all "sucky" situations), much of this "hypocrisy" would disapate immediately. However, what makes you think a person that complains about Apple or Microsoft would even make it more than 10 minutes on a Linux machine before watching his head explode all over the screen?

RE: 3rd party site
By quiksilvr on 2/19/2009 1:53:19 AM , Rating: 2
Decaf is for Liberal Arts majors! And that's my whole point: either make the switch to the alternative of what you're complaining about or stop complaining and be grateful for what you have.

RE: 3rd party site
By Titanius on 2/19/2009 8:10:31 AM , Rating: 2
I agree with your statement and I want to had the following:

The problem is that a lot of people make huge commotions over little problems that gave them a pissy fit. Get over it!

RE: 3rd party site
By quiksilvr on 2/19/2009 11:42:13 AM , Rating: 3
Not allowing developers to release their programs for a bullsh|t reason is not a small problem. Patenting multitouch and forcing to sue others that use it so other companies can't develop it is not a small problem. Forcing users to use your HARDWARE just to run their SOFTWARE is not a small problem.

RE: 3rd party site
By Titanius on 2/19/2009 2:30:09 PM , Rating: 1
I agree, and your point is?

RE: 3rd party site
By quiksilvr on 2/20/2009 11:22:04 AM , Rating: 2
It's not little problems so making a commotion about it is necessary so companies will stop screwing with their customers with their idiotic business practices.

RE: 3rd party site
By rdeegvainl on 2/18/2009 11:49:12 AM , Rating: 2
So people aren't allowed to be dissatisfied?
I have windows, linux, an ipod, and a sansa.... my list of things i can gripe about is growing shorter and shorter.

RE: 3rd party site
By xti on 2/18/2009 2:54:44 PM , Rating: 1
creative nomad = the anti-boner

RE: 3rd party site
By tdawg on 2/18/2009 11:56:06 AM , Rating: 3
While tech people here bemoan usability in a device and only want the most features possible, no matter the clunkiness of the UI, the fact is, the iPhone provides most of the features people look for in a smartphone and does so with a simple-to-use interface. At this time, especially for AT&T users, there is no better, full featured, smartphone that provides the same capabilities and intuitive user interface that the iPhone provides. If AT&T would offer an Android phone, or the Palm Pre would be coming to AT&T, or the Samsung Eternity had a more open OS, we'd have choices, but right now the iPhone provides much more in a phone than most of their other choices and taking the bad with the good regarding the app store is just something that iPhone users have to take into consideration; hopefully, Apple will become less draconian as time goes on and opens the platform a little more.

RE: 3rd party site
By ccmfreak2 on 2/18/2009 12:19:37 PM , Rating: 5
the fact is, the iPhone provides most of the features people look for in a smartphone and does so with a simple-to-use interface.

Yeah, everything but copy and freakin' paste, video recording, MMS, voice command, bluetooth stereo for your music, removable battery, expandable media, browser addons....

RE: 3rd party site
By sprockkets on 2/18/2009 1:48:41 PM , Rating: 2
What about no playing of the ringtones through the headset?

RE: 3rd party site
By Chaser on 2/18/2009 3:02:10 PM , Rating: 2
Thank you.

RE: 3rd party site
By daniyarm on 2/18/2009 11:38:18 AM , Rating: 2
You can show them the middle finger all you want, as long as you keep buying their crap you are supporting them.
I just can't wait until Android becomes the standard OS for smartphone, and it will happen based on recent news from Motorola and Vodafone.

RE: 3rd party site
By bhieb on 2/18/2009 11:41:30 AM , Rating: 3
Until it gets Exchange sync through owa implemented it will never take off IMHO. With iPhone 1.0 it was not allowed to be purchased at all at our company, now I have over a dozen. If you don't want to waste money on a RIM server and have exchange it is the best device for the job IMHO. The WM6 phones are nice, but overall fluidity of the iphone beats them hands down.

RE: 3rd party site
By sprockkets on 2/18/2009 1:55:21 PM , Rating: 2
Palm did a mediocre job of doing exchange with their devices; here's to them doing something with it this time.

Wait, the later version of multi-mail could work with it, though probably no one cared.

I also didn't think the new webos ran on Linux. But it does.

RE: 3rd party site
By artemicion on 2/18/2009 6:08:43 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't it curious that nobody complains when a phone is closed-platform (like the free Motorola phone that came with my contract - AFAIK you can't build apps for it) and nobody complains if a phone is open-platform (I don't really know any that truly exist), but when a company releases a phone that is quasi-open platform (like the iPhone, where you can develop apps for it but it has to be approved by Apple first) people cry "despotism". If Apple prohibited all third party apps on the iPhone it'd be like 95% of all the other phones on the market, no?

It's like you can't crack open the door half-way - once you open it a little, there's all these rabid dogs clamoring to open the door all the way. It's some weird sociological/psychological effect.

RE: 3rd party site
By Oralen on 2/18/2009 6:31:27 PM , Rating: 3
What is shocking is not the control Apple has over the iphone...

It's the reason: "Potentially offensive"?

That's not an app that can break the phone network, or ruin their juicy contracts, or anything of that sort.

They are making a moral judgment.

I own an ipod touch, I love it... But I am an adult and I like South Park.

It was not their decision to make if I could get that app or not, and if it is too offensive for me.

It was mine

RE: 3rd party site
By Gul Westfale on 2/18/2009 9:56:39 PM , Rating: 2
i always thought that someone who is smart enough to enjoy south park would also be smart enough not to buy an apple product... wrong then, i guess. stupidity knows no bounds...

RE: 3rd party site
By sprockkets on 2/19/2009 2:21:48 AM , Rating: 2
There is a difference btw phones and PDA phones, you know, WinMob, PalmOS, iphone OSX. When the iphone came out, it allowed no apps. Then they allowed apps, and currently are judge jury and executioner too (remote killing of apps).

But you seem to forget most phones can run java apps, which by their nature is very cross platform.

Unless you have a T-Mobile phone, which see to it that phones like the MotoZine or whatever their new camera phone is, is locked from installing apps.

RE: 3rd party site
By mmcdonalataocdotgov on 2/19/2009 8:38:41 AM , Rating: 1
As the Israelis say: Choose your enemy wisely, for that is who you shall become.

After years of listening to Apple users bash Microsoft for its policies, while Microsoft was at least open architecture, it is gratifying to see that Apple has turned out to be sooooo much more egregious now that it has gained market share in some area (iPhone / iPod).

Now maybe the EU will sue the crap out of Apple to make a few bucks the way it did with Microsoft for the last 20 years.

By Chris Peredun on 2/18/2009 10:47:46 AM , Rating: 5
Here's a better idea - classify it as "Adult" or "Immature" or whatever sticker Apple wants to put on it, and let the end-user decide.

As Eric Cartman might put it, Apple should probably do something about all that sand they've got in a particular bodily orifice.

By majorpain on 2/18/2009 11:16:00 AM , Rating: 2
or: "Apples mom is a bitch!!"

By nemoshotyany on 2/18/2009 6:01:12 PM , Rating: 4
Sir that comment was vulgar, I sorry were gonna have to remove you from the apple store. Also Apples Mom is patented by apple so we'll be seeing you in court.

By JazzMang on 2/18/2009 11:28:10 AM , Rating: 5
Knowing what Matt and Trey typically do, I assume we'll be seeing an episode touching on this very issue (analogously of course) very soon.

By Dreifort on 2/18/2009 12:19:50 PM , Rating: 3
it will prob be an episode where some corp company named..."?????" comes to SP to sue anyone who touches any object.

the plot is based by the episode starting with Mr. Garrison getting in trouble for "touching" a student.

He goes to court, lawyers get involved...then some big corp named "?????" (arabic for Apple) gets involved because they have copyrighted "touching".

I would dvr that episode.

By Smartless on 2/18/2009 1:59:34 PM , Rating: 2
lol are they that predictable? I guess so. But they did get a free Nintendo Wii for that Go God Go series. That's still hilarious to me.

By Motoman on 2/18/2009 12:20:09 PM , Rating: 2
...the best solution would be for people to stop buying products from a company when they know said company is going to #$@% with them after the purchase. Whining about what the iPhone doesn't do, and/or what Apple won't let you do with it, does absolutely no good because *you've already bought the product*. They have you money, so why do they care what you think now? And the fact of the matter is, Apple Macolytes are going to buy the *next* thing too - even though Apple raped them on the *last* thing.

Want to know who to blame for how much Apple sucks? Look in the mirror.

By Pirks on 2/18/2009 1:08:29 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, looks like waaay too many people really like it when a company #$@%s with them after the purchase. Something is wrong with our world, isn't it? ;)

Potentially offensive?
By crimson117 on 2/18/2009 10:45:40 AM , Rating: 5
The company that built youtube support directly into their phone, with no content filters in place, considers allowing south park clips through a custom app to be potentially offensive?

RE: Potentially offensive?
By Master Kenobi on 2/18/2009 10:48:41 AM , Rating: 5
This is nothing more than "We don't like you, beat it."

RE: Potentially offensive?
By majorpain on 2/18/2009 11:13:35 AM , Rating: 5
"OMG!!!! They killed kenny!!! You bastards!!!"

RE: Potentially offensive?
RE: Potentially offensive?
By djc208 on 2/18/2009 2:50:45 PM , Rating: 5
I'm betting it was based on the fact it was supposed to allow access to SP video content. Why let people download an app to watch Southpark when they could be paying for it from the iTunes store instead?

RE: Potentially offensive?
By pangloss0 on 2/20/2009 7:16:04 PM , Rating: 2
You nailed it - I am certian that Apple's sole concern was that this app could reduce sales of South Park episodes on iTunes. The "offensive[ness]" excuse appears to be a thinly veiled misdirection, in another misguided Apple effort to pretend to be a "good" company," not a "bad," (a la MS) company. It is sadly naive to think Apple has any interest in, or exercises any moral imperative - or has any concern other than profits.

Screw you Apple
By segerstein on 2/18/2009 5:58:59 PM , Rating: 3
I know that I'm not buying any of your iOrwell anymore.

1984, the Apple's way

RE: Screw you Apple
By zerocool84 on 2/18/2009 7:07:57 PM , Rating: 2
My whole family is Apple fanatics but all this crap that they've been doing these past couple years has led me to hate them. They are a bigger monopoly than Microsoft and much worse in pretty much every way. I just vote with my wallet. I choose to purchase none of their products while make people who talk crap on them own iPods and such.

Not the leader
By Lecalim on 2/18/2009 8:13:28 PM , Rating: 2
apple is most definitly not the leader as far as sales are concerned in the market of smartphones. maybe in the GUI or the software they are the leaders/innovators, but the technology has been out for years before they're iPhone. Do the research and you'll find the market share for the iPhone is growing, but is still far from the number 1 position

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