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Apple's HTML5 tech demos

What you see if you try to run Apple's tech demos in a browser other than Safari
Apple showcases seven tech demos to promote HTML5

Apple is continuing is full assault on Adobe's Flash technology. The company's latest efforts center around seven tech demos which showcase that HTML5 can perform many of the same tasks as Adobe Flash.

Apple prefaces the tech demos by stating:

Every new Apple mobile device and every new Mac — along with the latest version of Apple’s Safari web browser — supports web standards including HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript. These web standards are open, reliable, highly secure, and efficient. They allow web designers and developers to create advanced graphics, typography, animations, and transitions. Standards aren’t add-ons to the web. They are the web. And you can start using them today.

The tech demos include video and audio playback, photo sideshows (which are often done with Flash on news websites), transitional effects for pictures, a 360 degree view of an iPod touch, and a virtual reality tour of the flagship NYC Apple Store.

Interestingly, even though Apple is promoting an open web with HTML5 and declares that Adobe Flash doesn't always present a consistent or stable experience for users, Apple's own tech demos won't even work unless you download Safari and install it on your computer.

Safari comes pre-installed on every Mac, iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad -- hence the demos work on these devices -- but Apple has left other HTML5-capable browsers like Google Chrome out of the tech demo fun (see image on the right).





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Chrome
By icanhascpu on 6/4/10, Rating: 0
RE: Chrome
By rennya on 6/4/2010 6:19:50 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't work here with HTML5-supporting Firefox 3.6.4 beta.


RE: Chrome
By rennya on 6/4/2010 6:23:01 AM , Rating: 3
And the demo doesn't work with ChromePlus either (only an idiot will install the privacy-intruding Google Chrome).


RE: Chrome
By icanhascpu on 6/4/2010 6:25:04 AM , Rating: 2
Oh sorry I'll fetch my fucking tinfoil hat.


RE: Chrome
By rennya on 6/4/2010 6:33:17 AM , Rating: 3
No need to do that, too late already. Somewhere in a Google datacenter, all of your search queries has already been recorded and stored for serving targeted advertising hahahaha.


RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/10, Rating: -1
RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/10, Rating: -1
RE: Chrome
By UnWeave on 6/4/2010 11:41:30 AM , Rating: 3
Chrome has a unified search and address bar. Just like how google.com now gives suggestions as you type in the search bar, Chrome does too, but in its all-in-one search/address bar. As you type in the bar, potential searches come up there. The traffic everyone was (yeah, it's old news) wetting themselves over was/is Chrome asking Google "What does this person want to search for?"

It's little different from just using google.com to search for something.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for privacy, but getting your knickers in a twist over something that was known 2 years ago is OTT; if you don't like what it's doing, don't use it, but don't make out that it's some kind of malicious software.


RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/10, Rating: -1
RE: Chrome
By Scrote on 6/5/2010 10:14:56 PM , Rating: 3
"intelligent design" returns 48 million links.


RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/2010 5:48:53 PM , Rating: 3
Firstly, when Google released these products it assured the public that it would not aggregate information from all its various products. It then changed its privacy policy and started doing just that.

Secondly, as far as Gmail goes, Google explain that they intend to data-mine but they never have openly and clearly admitted that they will store your emails in perpetuity on their back-up servers. They also permanently store those of people who reply to Gmail customers... without permission. After 180 days in the U.S., email messages lose their status as a protected communication under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, and become just another database record.

Thirdly, this issue goes beyond Google to the fact that the US has no data privacy act. As data-mining companies become more sophisticated it becomes ever more important that privacy for US citizens is protects.

Fourthly, there is the problem of international clients of US businesses. Europeans enjoy tight privacy laws but Google appears to be ignoring that, as shown by their response to the recently revealed fact that they collected private wifi data while photographing streets for Google maps... Google described it as a glitch only for it to turn out to have been done deliberately. Google is resisting the demands of several countries legal systems to turn over the data so those governments can ascertain exactly what Google did and sue them.

Fifthly, certain technologies are being used to deny the public privacy that their action clearly show they wish to have. DoubleClick, a Google company, is serving tracker cookies with no express permission from the public. Many members of the public do not know that they are being monitored by DoubleClick... many do not even know if its existence. Other companies are hiding tracker software in apps, as Steve Jobs recently discovered when a data-mining company announced the existence of a new iPhone and tablet device. Flash has been used to re-identify and re-serve unique ID tracker cookies to people who have cleared their browsers of them expressly to prevent continuity of tracking. Google, itself, is currently aggregating data under IP addresses so that , even if you choose to delete, or not accept their cookies, you cannot avoid their tracking you.

Google is at the heart of this behaviour and it is unfortunate for Americans that the writers of their constitution could not possibly have foreseen these events to protect them from these sorts of abuses. I have absolutely no doubt that the founding fathers, who saw to it that US citizens were protected both from Church and State tyranny, would not have taken this intelligence gathering so lightly.

" We are moving to a Google that knows more about you."
— Google CEO Eric Schmidt, speaking to financial analysts, February 9, 2005


RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/2010 6:10:18 PM , Rating: 1
That Google private wifi data collecting scandal:

Australian Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has dubbed the incident possibly "the largest privacy breach in history across Western democracies".

I how Americans start demanding some privacy soon, otherwise Google will continue using its location in the US like scam artists use the Ukraine.


RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/2010 6:22:58 PM , Rating: 2
To see Firefox performance change browser ID to Safari and try this link:

http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos/


RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/2010 8:00:58 PM , Rating: 1
That should have read:

The Google private wifi data collecting scandal:

Australian Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has dubbed the incident possibly "the largest privacy breach in history across Western democracies".

I hope Americans start demanding some privacy soon, otherwise Google will continue using its location in the US like scam artists use the Ukraine. Google is currently ignoring European and Antipodean data privacy acts and disrespecting the national sovereignty of several countries by claiming that private data illegally gained, illegally spirited out of those countries, and now residing in California is no longer those nations' property and will not be returned.


RE: Chrome
By spazze on 6/5/2010 8:52:40 AM , Rating: 2
I know I wouldn't even consider getting a new phone contract w/o the Australian Communication Minister's ok. I mean Australia is the land of internet freedom right? And Politician quotes are always factual and on point.

If you information is not PRIVATE because you are too lazy to change the settings, then don't expect someone NOT to peek at it. I mean, you can't complain that your house got burgled when you took all the doors off of it and replaced them with curtains that say " Stay Out -- Please"


RE: Chrome
By FaceMaster on 6/5/2010 2:32:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Could those voting down posts suggesting that Google's Chrome browser contains spyware please paste this into Google:

Google chrome spyware

and read a few of the 4,000,000 links returned?

Thanks.


All it comes up with are threads full of people like you guessing if there might be. Most are back in 2008. You might as well have quoted yourself talking about Chrome as 'evidence' of spyware.


RE: Chrome
By semo on 6/4/2010 6:51:04 AM , Rating: 2
there's that now? I've been playing around with iron on super slow machines. I'll try this now.


RE: Chrome
By ltcommanderdata on 6/4/2010 8:22:15 AM , Rating: 2
It's probably because HTML5 isn't fully standardized yet so everybody is implementing different pieces of it. Firefox HTML5 and Javascript performance may also not be as fast as Safari. That was the reason that Google gave why their Quake 2 HTML5 port doesn't officially support Firefox.


RE: Chrome
By Fraggeren on 6/4/2010 7:35:57 AM , Rating: 3
Doesn't work in my standard Chrome for Windows Vista.
Which version are you using?


RE: Chrome
By zephyrxero on 6/4/2010 11:19:13 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't work in mine. Running Chrome (dev channel) 6.0.422 on Ubuntu 8.04 (32-bit)

Stupid Apple...just stupid


RE: Chrome
By UnWeave on 6/4/2010 11:44:02 AM , Rating: 1
It's just a tech demo, and it's probably using things that aren't fully standardized yet. How does this translate to 'stupid apple'?


RE: Chrome
By sebmel on 6/4/2010 5:56:29 PM , Rating: 1
You have to understand that this part of the Mick and Hill show.

Mick & Hill shout: "Apple kill babies!"

... and the fanbois flush red, put on their grass skirts and start frothing at the mouth while rapidly loading comments onto DT articles. It's great for page hits.


RE: Chrome
By kmmatney on 6/4/2010 12:56:10 PM , Rating: 2
Didn't work for me in Chrome...


Sorry...
By dajeepster on 6/4/2010 5:49:32 AM , Rating: 5
But i'm not downloading Safari...




RE: Sorry...
By alanore on 6/4/2010 6:04:00 AM , Rating: 5
Is there a flash version for the 95% that don't use safari?


Hopes and dreams
By spathotan on 6/4/2010 7:09:43 AM , Rating: 4
This is getting absurd.

By time HTML5 is "ready" (years from now), Adobe will have already developed a Flash successor that will bury this. Apple is acting like HTML5 will be in your homes on Facebook and Youtube in a few weeks.




RE: Hopes and dreams
By littleprince on 6/4/2010 8:20:51 AM , Rating: 2
Youtube has had an HTML5 player for several months if not a year..


RE: Hopes and dreams
By Anoxanmore on 6/4/2010 9:45:18 AM , Rating: 3
Which 97% of their subscribers do not use... ;)


HTML5
By bill4 on 6/4/2010 5:52:43 AM , Rating: 2
I was under the understanding HTML5 wasn't widely used because the spec wasn't finalized. Well, what the hell is taking so long?




RE: HTML5
By alanore on 6/4/10, Rating: 0
RE: HTML5
By a9902468 on 6/4/2010 6:12:54 AM , Rating: 2
I thought that the spec is almost finalized, but before the spec becomes official recommendation the technology must be already adopted by certain percentage of market, and that date should be by 2022?


RE: HTML5
By alanore on 6/4/2010 6:18:03 AM , Rating: 1
A lot of it is done, It should reach candidate stage with in 2 years.

I think the 2022 is when the W3C going to 'recommend' it.


RE: HTML5
By embeejay on 6/4/2010 7:30:31 AM , Rating: 1
Read this if you want your facts straight ;)
http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#When_will_HTML5_be...


RE: HTML5
By weskurtz0081 on 6/4/10, Rating: 0
RE: HTML5
By 67STANG on 6/4/2010 11:12:22 AM , Rating: 2
Who really cares? I haven't seen much (if anything) in Apple's HTML5 demos that can't be done using jQuery.

jQuery works in all browsers.... been using it as a flash replacement for over a year now.

Honestly, I'm more interested in CSS3 support, than HTML5.


I don't get it....
By AbsShek on 6/4/2010 8:22:04 AM , Rating: 5
Their HTML5 demo works only on Safari (and webkit browsers). But, the same thing in flash would work on EVERY platform/browser.

What exactly is the point they're trying to make here? Open standards? Doesn't making you download a browser to view a web page sort of prove it's proprietaryness?




RE: I don't get it....
By psenechal on 6/4/2010 12:13:19 PM , Rating: 1
I'm not defending Apple here, but don't you have to download a plug-in for your browser in order to see Flash? So technically Flash doesn't work on every platform/browser...only those that have downloaded and installed the plug-in.


You can use other browser too
By a9902468 on 6/4/2010 6:11:04 AM , Rating: 2
Just access the demos here http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos
For some reason they don't have the Safari checks there?

Tested with Chrome 5




RE: You can use other browser too
By alanore on 6/4/2010 6:19:54 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't work in Firefox. It must just work on WebKit based browsers.


Finish Spec and then go from there
By sapiens74 on 6/4/2010 6:22:58 AM , Rating: 2
Not going to displace Adobe with an unfinished tech demo

I can't wait till we have a more mature HTML 5 and more clean websites as Flash to me is ugly, intrusive and slow.




RE: Finish Spec and then go from there
By icanhascpu on 6/4/10, Rating: 0
By Fraggeren on 6/4/2010 7:43:48 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe the new hardware acceleration will keep Flash up. Anyway Flash is actually a great development app, if you think about it, the timeline is an easy tool for animation, and that whole array of features is not something there is for HTML5.


Apple's HTML 5 demo requires Apple's Safari
By encia on 6/4/2010 8:00:42 AM , Rating: 2
Apple's HTML 5 demo requires Apple's Safari.




By encia on 6/4/2010 8:05:58 AM , Rating: 2
From http://www.apple.com/html5/
It states "You’ll need to download Safari to view this demo"

I use Chrome 5.0.375.55 and I'm not installing Safari.


Sooo
By ZaethDekar on 6/4/2010 9:50:00 AM , Rating: 2
You have to have quicktime installed to listen to music or play any of the video's through HTML5... yet YouTube has HTML5 videos. So, why didn't apple showcase that?




RE: Sooo
By bigBird5000 on 6/7/2010 1:53:25 PM , Rating: 2
why would they want to let people get away without installing more apple software to report anonymous usage stats. aside from that all the talk about open standards dont mean jack if you make your own dialect of that standard kinda like ie and ie specific code is.


Jobs is a Tool
By Pitbull0669 on 6/4/2010 10:18:01 AM , Rating: 2
Jobs= Hand Jobs.Cuz thats what u are getting dealing with him. plain and simple. he wants everyone to comply w/ him or die. plain and simple.




RE: Jobs is a Tool
By icanhascpu on 6/4/2010 9:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
Go back to counterstrike now Jr.


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