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Apple denies that leaked photos were a result of an iCloud security breach

Leaked nude photos of female celebrities like Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Upton sent the internet into overdrive on Sunday afternoon. Hundreds of pictures were posted online showing celebrities in various states of undress. Some victims denied that the photos were authentic, while others admitted to their authenticity and vowed legal action.
 
Some, like actress Kirsten Dunst, went so far as to add a bit of humor while still blaming Apple for the breach of privacy:

 
Regardless of whether some of the images released were fakes, a good majority of them were real and there are some serious privacy issues at hand with the photo leaks. As we reported yesterday, there are various theories floating around as to how this hack was performed, with one of the more popular ones presented by TheNextWeb.
 
According to TheNextWeb, hackers were able to use a “brute force” attack on the Find My iPhone service to capture the passwords of celebrities’ iCloud accounts in order to access private photos.
 
Another possibility, which we also addressed, was that this wasn’t a single, large data breach that affected iCloud over a short period of time. Instead, it was the result of hackers specifically targeting individual celebrities over the years and amassing a huge collection to trade amongst other underground nude photo peddlers. However, the massive grab bag of photos sprung a leak and eventually burst resulting in Sunday’s free-for-all.
 
“That's all I can stands, and I can't stands no more.” Jennifer Lawrence and her representatives are livid of the photo leaks. [Image Source: Kevin Winter/WireImage]

According to Apple, the latter theory is the correct one. Apple has released the following statement which looks to cast aside any notion that iCloud was breached:
 
We wanted to provide an update to our investigation into the theft of photos of certain celebrities. When we learned of the theft, we were outraged and immediately mobilized Apple’s engineers to discover the source. Our customers’ privacy and security are of utmost importance to us. After more than 40 hours of investigation, we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions, a practice that has become all too common on the Internet. None of the cases we have investigated has resulted from any breach in any of Apple’s systems including iCloud® or Find my iPhone. We are continuing to work with law enforcement to help identify the criminals involved.
 
To protect against this type of attack, we advise all users to always use a strong password and enable two-step verification. Both of these are addressed on our website at http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4232" rel="nofollow.
 
The FBI is still investigating the attack, and the original leaker is reportedly on the run at this moment.

Source: Apple



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I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/2/2014 3:55:33 PM , Rating: 5
And it's something everyone should know by now, you would think. Anything you save online is vulnerable. Anything you save on your phone, on your computer, is vulnerable. If you're going to take these types of pics you should do so with the understanding that it's very likely they will get out. Maybe your account will get hacked, maybe the person you sent them to will share them, maybe you'll accidently text them to the wrong person.

I also doubt iCloud was "hacked". Someone may have gotten her password but that's not the same thing. If iCloud itself were compromised this will be a huge deal.




RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/2/2014 3:56:20 PM , Rating: 2
Also, I approve of leaked Jennifer Lawrence pics.


By atechfan on 9/3/2014 8:34:20 AM , Rating: 2
And I approve of your daughter's leaked pics.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/2/14, Rating: 0
RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/2/2014 4:49:56 PM , Rating: 4
No, I approve of a really great looking woman doing it. As an adult. When my daughter is grown and if she decides to do something like this then she'll be old enough to make that decision. As long as she understands the risk then she can't freak out and demand the FBI provide "justice".

You're so high and mighty... Yes, I want my daughter to be better than other people. But I enjoy adult content. That was their choice and I have no problem watching it. Not sure what that has to do with being a good parent and trying to instill better morals in your own children.

Way to twist it all around. You should stop posting and go back to church and pray for forgiveness for reading about someone posting naked pictures.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/2/2014 7:05:46 PM , Rating: 1
It has nothing to do with being high and mighty. It has everything to do with being hypocritical. And I don't know if you're divorced or not, but I'm sure your wife would be thrilled at the idea of you looking at other women naked. Must make her feel valued. I'm not innocent of that sin in my whole life. But I haven't looked at such things in a while and I plan to do my best never to again. Because what am I telling my wife by doing so? That she's not good enough for me.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Reclaimer77 on 9/2/14, Rating: -1
RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 7:32:03 AM , Rating: 3
Where exactly did I say that I'm superior? I've never thought that. Quite the opposite. Just because I ACKNOWLEDGE sin now does not mean I'm immune from it or think that I'm better than anyone else. The problem with most of society today is that it automatically labels anyone who points out that society might be doing something wrong as acting superior or being high and mighty.

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And how, exactly, is it hypocritical to look at naked women but to NOT want your daughter taking naked pictures?


You're encouraging other's daughters to do it while not wanting it for your own. Pretty simple.

I also didn't say you can't nurture your fantasies in marriage. I have my own and me and my wife try to partake in them. But if your fantasies are other women instead of your wife, that's where the problem comes in. It has everything to do with valuing your partner. Especially for women. A woman who doesn't feel valued by her husband isn't going to be happy for long. Lack of commitment is the number one reason for divorce. How much commitment does a husband/wife have to their wife/husband if they don't value them above all else (except God if you're a Christian)?


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 7:34:35 AM , Rating: 2
Your wife is someone's daughter, so when you engage in fantasies you're encouraging someone else's daughter into base and immoral acts.

And, again, how weak is your wife's self confidence if her only source of happiness is the idea that you don't look at other women?


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 8:35:29 AM , Rating: 1
Apparently you don't actually understand what getting married means. At least a Christian marriage. She's my wife. Two become one. Inside the confines of our marriage, we can engage in whatever sexual experience we want. As long as it involves each other and only each other. So explain how its immoral to do anything sexual with my wife?

And again with the accusation that because we have beliefs that certain things are wrong, that means my wife isn't confident. She knows I'm a man. One who's eye will still stray the wrong way at times. But that doesn't mean its ok for me to do that. Or that we should encourage it. To either of us. And that has absolutely nothing to with her confidence.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 8:53:46 AM , Rating: 2
No, I was making a foolish statement to show that it goes both ways.

Humans aren't monogamous by nature. It is a choice we make to overcome our instincts. As for temptation, porn and strip clubs are far less temptation then the coworker at the office and the mother at the girl scout's meeting. A stripper poses no real threat to my wife. And porn definitely does not.

And I don't care she finds other men attractive. At all.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 9:02:08 AM , Rating: 2
I disagree. Humans might always have lust for essentially what they don't have, but study after study shows people want a relationship. It's no coincidence that people who lead the hook up lifestyle see very little value in it. And that it ultimately doesn't make them happy.

And I don't see any difference between the two places. Yes a coworker can pose just as much temptation as a stripper. But being ok with one can lead to being ok with with the other. If you're willing to pay to have another woman put her tits in your face because it's her job and you're paying her for it, why wouldn't you take it for free from a coworker? Or a hooker who you'd also pay? Where's the line drawn?

Even before I was a Christian, I've never gone to a strip club. Because it's always been wrong to me.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 9:08:52 AM , Rating: 3
I guess that's a good question. If a coworker offered to take you into a closed room and strip for you and grind on you, do you think your wife would be ok with it? I mean if she's ok with it happening at a strip club, why not get it for free to? Saves you some money to spend on her right?


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By sorry dog on 9/3/2014 10:04:47 AM , Rating: 3
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And I don't see any difference between the two places. Yes a coworker can pose just as much temptation as a stripper. But being ok with one can lead to being ok with with the other. If you're willing to pay to have another woman put her tits in your face because it's her job and you're paying her for it, why wouldn't you take it for free from a coworker? Or a hooker who you'd also pay? Where's the line drawn?Even before I was a Christian, I've never gone to a strip club. Because it's always been wrong to me.


If that's the boundaries that work for you and your ships to be happy then great. The point is to not judge or assume your values on other people.
My point of view is different as I see a strip joints as purely entertainment that's over once you step out of the doors. The line between that and actively pursuing a co-worker are clear to me and have much to do with trust between two partners. Porn provides a similar function to strip clubs in that it provides a physical release to natural sexual tension. I'd say it actually makes my relationship healthier by allowing me to release my pent up physical urges in a way that doesn't affect the intimacy with my partner. Maybe it's a curse, but if you are a naturally horny person, and if you try to hold it in, it will just gets stuck in your mind 24/7 which isn't very conducive to getting other things done. At the end of the day it doesn't affect the 3 basic things needed for a healthy relationship: trust, respect, and genuine affection. Besides, I don't remember "thou shall not jerk off" being a commandment.

FIT, if your puritan values work for you and significant, that's great. It wouldn't work well for me, and as long as it doesn't harm you in any way, don't see why you shouldn't be happy with what works in my personal life. BTW- I don't particularly enjoy strip clubs either for being too much of a tease. But on occasion it can be fun in a group for things like bachelor parties for comedy reasons if nothing else.


By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 11:10:00 AM , Rating: 2
See you're calling it puritan because you're assuming. I have anything but a puritan view of sex. You're thinking about a religious stereotype. I'm not.

Sex is a gift. One to be enjoyed. With your spouse. In whatever way the two of you desire. One of the things me and my wife talked about before we were married was sex. I told her my expectations and she told me hers. Part of any obedient (to God) Christian marriage is a healthy sex life. We're to surrender ourselves to each other's needs(within reason). In my sex life, one of my biggest desires is meeting my wife's needs, not just mine. You're saying that your needs outweigh your commitment that you made. And that its ok for you to seek relief of those needs outside of that commitment. Instead of with your wife. No obedient Christian should tell you that's ok. Now you're not a Christian so I don't expect you to agree. But that doesn't mean I'm not supposed to tell you.

You are obviously free to live your life how you choose, but that doesn't mean I'm in the wrong for doing what God tells me to do. That is, telling you how God created marriage and what he created it to be. I might find your behavior wrong, but if you're so convinced it's right, then you really shouldn't care what I have to say about it. I certainly don't care what you think about mine.


By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 10:24:11 AM , Rating: 2
World of difference. One, I wouldn't go to a strip club by myself. That's just weird assuming you're in a relationship. I either go with my wife, where we have some drinks and joke about the ugly women and try to pick out the best looking ones, or with friends or clients/vendors. Part of being involved in sales means you do things like that for work and when I've gone with my friends it's usually in a big group. Where we're there to drink and check out women. We don't generally run off with the women although we do flirt.

With a coworker you're not in an environment where you're there for entertainment. If things start to happen with a coworker it's because you've formed some sort of connection. Even in a no strings attached scenario, that came about because you formed some sort of relationship with that person that made one of you feel comfortable bringing it up. That's called cheating. Saying have a coworker give you a lap dance is the same thing shows a very narrow view of the world.

Watching porn or watching girls dance naked isn't cheating. It's that simple. There is no relationship, there is no physical or emotional bond. It's very transient. You do your thing, you're done and you go on your way.


By Reclaimer77 on 9/4/2014 9:27:52 PM , Rating: 1
You basically came out and, in a VERY hostile tone, said he was a bad parent and made a sarcastic quip about his morals.

Dude if that's how you "evangelize" the word or whatever, it's time to go back for more brainwashing....

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You're encouraging other's daughters to do it while not wanting it for your own. Pretty simple.


No not even close. Some random person looking at naked pics of another random person, never to be spoken to directly, is NOT "encouragement"...

The Bible has a completely inconsistent and paradoxical moral code, it's just kinda funny seeing you guys try and enforce it on random stuff where it doesn't apply.

You turned a fun topic into God Talk with our host, Fit Camaro...grats I guess?


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 7:24:16 AM , Rating: 2
Oh man, you're hilarious. So it's not about being high and mighty and yet you make a comment like that?

My wife and I have been together for 13 years. We watch porn together and I watch it on my own. We go to gentlemen's clubs together and I'll go with my friends. Her response to me going? She isn't jealous, she isn't upset. She just wishes she could have gone with.

How on earth is admiring another woman somehow making my wife feel she isn't good enough? How weak is your relationship that your wife would actually think you looking at another woman makes her less? If you ask me, you have far deeper relationship problems then you realize. I made the mistake of nearly marrying someone like that and it was absolute misery. My wife is confident enough in our relationship and my devotion to her to trust that doing something most normal men do doesn't somehow slight her in the least and, often times, she directly benefits from these things. When I go out with friends or clients to the club, have a few drinks and watch some women dance, guess who I come home to? That's right, my wife.

You really need to get over yourself. Not everyone approaches the world with blinders on.


By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 8:19:25 AM , Rating: 2
Where do I say anything about my wife trusting me less because I might look at another woman? My beliefs are as such because I believe them, not because of my wife's insecurities. I had them before I ever met her. Now yes my wife shares my views that neither of us should be lusting after another person. And that doesn't mean it never happens. We're human after all. We just both recognize we shouldn't do it. That it can lead to disaster. So we avoid it and focus on pleasing each other. Not going to other sources.

You and your wife may allow it, but 50% of marriages don't end in divorce because our society is too prude. It's not all because of porn either. But it definitely has an effect. And I'd bet money that your wife does have insecurities out of you lusting after other women. And that you aren't too keen on the idea of your wife lusting after another man. Even if neither of you have done anything about it. Yet.

Part of the point is, why invite temptation? Because you're both just better than all the rest who've succumbed to it? Talk about feeling superior....


By tng on 9/3/2014 10:22:54 AM , Rating: 2
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...but I'm sure your wife would be thrilled at the idea of you looking at other women naked. Must make her feel valued.
Your wife must have very low self esteem or be very insecure in your relationship to really care. Or is it that she really just does not trust you?

So many things wrong with what you said, so many people out there that really don't have mature relationships with their spouses.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Reclaimer77 on 9/2/2014 7:22:50 PM , Rating: 2
Didn't you know? I you watch porn, that means you want your daughter to be a whore/pornstar.

Totally rational logic!!


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 8:36:02 AM , Rating: 2
No it means you want others daughters to be porn stars.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 8:56:07 AM , Rating: 2
You know, I know a girl who was raised by extremely strict religious parents who wound up being a stripper. They avoided discussing life situations with her, thinking that they were better off sheltering her from them. When she grew older and they could no longer shelter her the lack of guidance they provided showed and she went down the wild side.

I'm honest with my daughter and discuss things like this.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 9:11:58 AM , Rating: 2
Yes and I think that is a horrible idea too. I absolutely agree that completely sheltering your child is a bad idea. But that also doesn't mean you throw them to the wolves and let them figure everything out on their own. You be open and honest with them about life and encourage them to make good decisions.

It's good that you discuss things with your daughter. But I'm betting you don't teach her that's its a good thing to go get paid to dance on stage and rub men's faces in her breasts for money.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 10:27:23 AM , Rating: 2
I reinforce positive values. I wouldn't tell her it's bad to be a stripper either. Why would I want to make her judgmental of someone else's choice?

Would I be happy if she grew up and became an entertainer like that? No. I would feel like I failed her somehow. But that doesn't change the fact that I would still be her father and I would still support her. I wouldn't turn my back on her. Would you say the same? If she brings a girlfriend home from high school I'll do the same. Although that might make me happy... Lesbians don't have to worry about teen pregnancy.


By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 11:14:30 AM , Rating: 3
I certainly would not support my daughter doing that. That would make me a bad parent. To support an immoral life style. Would she be welcome in my home? Of course. According to my rules though.

Same goes for if I had a gay child. I would not support their lifestyle. They'd be welcome in my home. But they wouldn't be allowed to bring a homosexual partner with them.

You do not have to approve of what your child is doing in order to love them. As I pointed out before, a Christian is not loving someone for letting them believe sin is not sin. Or supporting them in that sin.


By Reclaimer77 on 9/4/2014 9:31:38 PM , Rating: 2
Fit...if you see a lovely apple and eat it, does that mean you WANTED the apple to exist? Or would it exist regardless of your "wants" or opinions?

I don't "want" daughters to be porn stars. They simply...are.

But then again I'm trying to have a conversation about morals with someone who believes his God needed to have his own son tortured and murdered instead of simply forgiving Adam and Eve (mankind) lol. Great morals in the Bible!


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/2/2014 6:43:07 PM , Rating: 3
How is it about morals? Keep your narrow religion off the web. It belongs in your house and in your church, not online.

This stuff exists and always has. Even before camera's were invented 150+ years ago, people would draw it, or pay for it in a peepshow (or whatever). If its there, there is nothing wrong with looking at it. There is also nothing wrong with teaching your daughter NOT to be the one putting it out there.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/2/2014 7:03:39 PM , Rating: 2
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It belongs in your house and in your church, not online.


You've been listening to the government to long.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/2/2014 7:44:19 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry Flanders, I form my own opinion on things, it did not from our govt.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 7:21:19 AM , Rating: 1
Well then you should try actually reading about the Christian faith. Which absolutely does not say to just stay in your church and in your home. It says to be out in the world. And that the world will hate you for it.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 8:06:28 AM , Rating: 4
It also says not to judge. It says to love thy neighbor. It doesn't tell people to hate those who are different, to insult those or to judge another's marriage because of different beliefs.

Then again, this is the same church that has condoned slavery. That has stood by while people were tortured, "witches" burned and drown, while people were hunted and tortured for having different beliefs. The same church that would tell a woman she's better off sticking with a husband who beats her rather than commit the heinous act of divorce. The same church that would ostracize that same woman for finally getting a divorce.

Yes, I should model my life after that... Religion doesn't bother me, the hypocrisy of the members does. And it runs from top to bottom.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 8:13:10 AM , Rating: 3
"It also says not to judge. It says to love thy neighbor. It doesn't tell people to hate those who are different, to insult those or to judge another's marriage because of different beliefs."

clap...clap...clap... It does.

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

? Mahatma Gandhi

Fit, what that means is you should walk the walk a lot more and talk the talk alot less. Try to act more like Jesus and not follow the words written by people in charge centuries later.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 9:31:25 AM , Rating: 2
Uh the only words I follow are found in the Bible.

Jesus didn't command his followers to sit inside all day. He told us to be out in the world telling people about him. Jesus told us the world would hate us.

People say all the time "What would Jesus do?". Well you have to remember that beat people with a whip and overturning tables was among the possibilities.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 10:27:58 AM , Rating: 3
OMG, you are a lost cause. You cant even get the meaning of the book you hold in such high regard and have skewed the man's message so badly its saddens me. You really personify Ghandi's quote above to perfection.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 11:15:32 AM , Rating: 1
So prove me wrong. Find a part of scripture that proves your point without conflicting with another part of scripture.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 11:24:23 AM , Rating: 2
The Bible is open to interpretation. Anything I could find could be twisted to mean whatever you'd like. That's the reason there are such massive areas where a church can twist the Bible for whatever message they wish.


By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 1:42:54 PM , Rating: 2
Yes it is. Which is why you have to look at all of it when interpreting it. Not just a single passage.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 11:33:08 AM , Rating: 4
Off the top... Lets go with "judge not lest ye be judged". Matthew 7:1-3

But the entire book is a contradiction. http://bibviz.com/

You have to remember, the old testament was compiled from spoken stories handed down by mouth, generation to generation... Much of which copied from old Sumerian stories like Gilgamesh, then later books added on top of it, then the Jesus/new testament part then a thousand years later it was all "Canonized" by a group of priests in power, adding what they saw fit and removing what conflicted with their current view at that time. Its basically a more broken Wikipedia. The fact that you use it kind of shows your ignorance of the whole subject matter, but that is a different thread entirely.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 1:58:25 PM , Rating: 2
So nevermind that we have proof of the integrity of the scriptures. Both Old and New. The Dead Sea Scrolls proved that all of the scriptures it contained were accurate to what we read now. And for the New Testament, we still have the originals. And quotes from the originals. You should look up a video from Voddie Baucham about why we can trust the scriptures. But hey, it's easier to just call it all crazy.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 2:02:11 PM , Rating: 2
Ugh... Please the god in the old testament was a jealous, vindictive immature child with a massive mean streak. Seriously, go back and read it... A total maniac.

"You should look up a video from Voddie Baucham about why we can trust the scriptures."

Why dont you "sheep" on it. I will not.


By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 2:20:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yes he could be considered that way by one who didn't believe. That doesn't make it untrue.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 11:21:45 AM , Rating: 2
He seems to believe he is completely without sin which would make him capable of judging others. Which is funny, because believing such a thing is a sin since the Bible states Jesus is the only person to walk the Earth without sin.

So contradictory... The whole problem with people who let religion rule their entire life rather than approaching things on a case by case basis.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 11:35:58 AM , Rating: 4
Yup... hypocrisy, thy name is modern Christian.

I honestly think if Jesus were alive today he would (verbally) bitch slap Fitcamaro and those like him for their complete perversion of Jesus's message.

Seriously sickening.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 1:55:01 PM , Rating: 2
Modern Christianity is a feel good message of "do whatever you want, God loves you anyway" church. Just look at a church like the Osteen's. People want to feel good about themselves and never be told they're doing anything wrong (ahem...). Plenty are willing to provide that message even though the Bible says the exact opposite.

Ancient Christianity is one of persecution for going against the popular culture. For telling people that what they were doing was sinful. For not going with the flow. Now is no different than the situations in ancient Corinth, Ephesus, or Rome.

Why don't you read some of Jesus' message in Luke 12:49-59. It says nothing of "everyone just love each other and get along". Quite the opposite. And why would people be divided? Because those who followed him would be hated and viewed as you're viewing me. Because we wouldn't just be sitting in our houses and churches, quiet, never speaking up. Christians are called to be the salt of the earth. Salt can be both pleasant and bitter.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 1:59:21 PM , Rating: 2
Here... http://bibleforums.org/activity.php?s=606ce7481712...

Backward asses are welcome there. This here is a tech forum and you pushing your religion on it is highly annoying.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 2:21:02 PM , Rating: 2
Takes at least two to have a conversation. You could have bowed out at any time.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 2:40:45 PM , Rating: 2
This wasnt a conversation so much as a "holier than thou" person blasting someone for a comment, and then several others calling that "holier than thou" person out on it. I know better than to try and actually debate something with you. Your mind is like Ft. Knox. - Nothing is getting in there, not a chance.


By Cheesew1z69 on 9/3/2014 3:55:12 PM , Rating: 2
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"holier than thou"
I tend to get that from his posts, he just seems to think he is better than everyone else is what I see.


By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 5:15:45 PM , Rating: 2
If that were the case, then I would not be a Christian now.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 9:29:04 AM , Rating: 2
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It also says not to judge.


In reality it says the exact opposite. We're told not to judge when we also are doing the exact same thing. We're supposed to first go resolve that sin ourselves. But we absolutely are to judge when people are doing something wrong according to God's word. We're told to love. How are we loving anyone when we let them live in sin as if it's fine? If you see your neighbor doing something that could cause him harm, do you decide not to stop him because you don't want to judge or upset him? It's a Christians job to tell the world about God and what he wants for people(to not sin).

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t doesn't tell people to hate those who are different, to insult those or to judge another's marriage because of different beliefs.


No where here have I expressed hate for anyone. See above for judging. I'm sorry if I insulted you.

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Then again, this is the same church that has condoned slavery. That has stood by while people were tortured, "witches" burned and drown, while people were hunted and tortured for having different beliefs.


Yes God's word has been twisted for all manner of horrible things. That doesn't mean that's what his word says. I'm appalled at those things just as much as you are. And more.

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he same church that would tell a woman she's better off sticking with a husband who beats her rather than commit the heinous act of divorce.


Not sure what church you're talking about, but most don't. There are valid reasons for divorce in the bible. Infidelity being one. Domestic violence also qualifies. Pretty much any other reason though does not.

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The same church that would ostracize that same woman for finally getting a divorce.


In the past yes that has happened. Not so much today. Again, people being imperfect doesn't mean that is what God's word says to do. I follow God's word to the best of my ability. Not what a church says. If the church I go to starts conflicting with the Bible, I'll find another one. The reason I'm not Catholic is because there are numerous conflicts in Catholicism.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 10:35:50 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not talking about a long time ago, I'm talking about 20 years ago. Maybe they are a little more open minded today but I go to various churches from time to time just to see. The way people react when they find out you're a smoker alone is enough to make me doubt that.

And Jesus says let those without sin cast the first stone. Since NO ONE is without sin then no one should cast the first stone. How does that mean anything less than not judging someone? No one is able to say they have rid themselves of all sin. It's an impossibility. Also, according to the Bible, all sins are equal. So murder and eating a grape that you didn't pay for are equal in the eyes of God. When you combine those two statements alone the only conclusion available is that only God can judge. Period.

You can spread the word, you can advise people of God's love, you can attempt to convert them. But according to the Bible you cannot condemn them. It really is as simple as that. But "Christians", and pretty much anyone religious, spends all their time judging everyone else. Condemning sinners, homosexuals, people who cross the street at the wrong time of the day. There really is no rhyme or reason to most of it.


By FITCamaro on 9/3/2014 11:25:46 AM , Rating: 2
The time frame I was speaking of was about 50-60 years. And I have no way of knowing what kinds of churches you're going to. There are ones that are better than others. Some churches foolishly preach that women shouldn't wear pants, that having a drink is sinful, and that dancing is sinful. Then there's people like the Westboro Baptist Church who completely pervert things.

And Jesus said that because they were going to kill a woman who sinned. What he was doing there was taking back the death penalty that God previously prescribed as the punishment for prostitution. Not saying that no one should ever tell anyone that what they're doing is sinful. Read the various letters to the ancient churches. They're full of judgement. And commands to be discerning. Which involves judging. That we're to call sin sin. Now that's not to say I sit around waiting for everyone I know to sin and say "that's a sin" or anything. But your original statement was pretty hypocritical to me and I called you on it.

Murder and theft are equal in the eyes of God as sins. But even God prescribed different punishments for them. And in our governing authorities here on earth we have different punishments for them.

Where in all of this have I condemned anyone? Have I said once "you're going to hell?" No.


RE: I've been explaining to my daughter
By Reclaimer77 on 9/2/2014 7:04:34 PM , Rating: 2
Where did you read ANY of that in his post?

Oh and when it comes to women as hot as her, morals can just go take a goddamn break lol.

I viewed her pics and any red-blooded guy with a healthy sex drive and some curiosity would, nothing wrong with it.


By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 7:28:29 AM , Rating: 2
Most women with a healthy sex drive would do... She's flat out gorgeous. Why on earth would you not want to see that?

Unless you're hiding homosexual tendencies behind religious fervor perhaps?


Social engineering
By Dr. Kenneth Noisewater on 9/2/2014 3:46:58 PM , Rating: 2
When it comes to modern crypto, the human is always the weakest link.

I like 1password.




RE: Social engineering
By zero2dash on 9/2/2014 4:13:19 PM , Rating: 2
KeePass user myself (switched from LastPass).
Free & open source is the way to go IMHO.
We also use it where I work for all the domain logins and other stuff.

Any decent password manager nowadays though is almost necessary no matter what.


RE: Social engineering
By imaheadcase on 9/2/2014 4:28:46 PM , Rating: 2
Really no reason to think free and open source is any more secure than closed source. Just saying..
Switch from lastpass to keypass for UI or something, but don't think one is better in that regard.


RE: Social engineering
By FITCamaro on 9/2/2014 4:19:07 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I love 1Password. Great application.


RE: Social engineering
By ritualm on 9/2/2014 4:53:57 PM , Rating: 2
Not just modern crypto - humans are always the weakest link in every security measure. Takes only one guy to fell an entire house of cards.


RE: Social engineering
By tonyswash on 9/2/14, Rating: 0
What should this teach them?
By FITCamaro on 9/2/2014 4:22:34 PM , Rating: 2
Don't take nude pics of yourself and upload them. If you want to take nude pictures of yourself for your spouse, keep them private and on a non-network hard drive.




RE: What should this teach them?
By Camikazi on 9/2/2014 6:16:58 PM , Rating: 2
That is the reason why I love my non-smart, camera only camera. I can take all the pictures I want and it goes to an SD Card and nothing else, no cloud, no online nothing.


RE: What should this teach them?
By Bill S. on 9/4/2014 7:48:28 AM , Rating: 2
AND no chance that some iCloud (or other cloud storage) employee is either leaking them for money, or simply fapping over them.


the fappening
By GulWestfale on 9/2/2014 5:13:07 PM , Rating: 4
is boring. most are barely famous or simply famous for being famous, average gals. nothing wrong with that, but if i were a hacker about to go to jail for a couple of years, it wouldn't be because i wanna see the boobs of some teenie-bopper. booooooriiiiing.

and as for apple... maybe you fapped it wrong?




Blaming services or hackers
By Scootie on 9/2/2014 10:09:32 PM , Rating: 2
If you put on some online services or machines that have internet connectivity nudes of your own body, baby, your signing up for a hardcore rollercoaster. I would expect from anyone doing such things to store these images on an offline computer or directly on usb sticks that will never see that light of the internet. Anything else, is your ass being bitten or faped on. You have to pay for your own stupidity.




Deeper background
By tonyswash on 9/3/2014 4:34:06 AM , Rating: 1
This is the most detailed and informative analysis I have come across, worth a read.

https://www.nikcub.com/posts/notes-on-the-celebrit...




Typical
By Denigrate on 9/2/14, Rating: -1
RE: Typical
By amanojaku on 9/2/2014 4:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
Just to be clear, iCloud was not hacked in that someone spread malware or used injection. It was a brute-force attack on user accounts due to unlimited login attempts. It's the most basic way to attack a system, so much so that it's almost never used because it's almost always blocked. It's the 101 of login security:

1) block after 3-5 attempts
2) inform user to contact help desk
3) notify security when attempts pass a higher threshold

It's not unusual that unlimited login attempts were available. It's probably what most iCloud users wanted because it was convenient.


RE: Typical
By Labotomizer on 9/2/2014 4:13:54 PM , Rating: 2
Most services engage captcha after a few failed attempts. After that you have to go through a password reset. I suppose iCloud doesn't require you to do that when connecting over the backend protocols. They do over the web.


RE: Typical
By Solandri on 9/2/2014 4:39:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's not unusual that unlimited login attempts were available. It's probably what most iCloud users wanted because it was convenient.

Even that in itself shouldn't be a problem. The "right" way to handle cloud storage is to encrypt everything that's uploaded to the server using a key that only the user holds. If the user wants to make a photo public, then it can be unencrypted and made public. But otherwise, even if your account is breached, the data in it should be useless without the user's key.

Unfortunately, the only cloud services I've seen which do this is Firefox (stores your settings, bookmarks, and extensions on the cloud) and encrypted text in Evernote. Both are encrypted at the user's end, and only the encrypted data is transmitted to and stored on the servers (the downside being if the user loses the key, the data is unrecoverable). The vast majority of cloud services don't do this because they want to be able to read your files to mine it for marketing info.

If you use cloud storage like Dropbox or Google Drive, I'd recommend using Boxcryptor. It will encrypt your files before they're sent to the cloud so that even if the service is hacked, your files are (reasonably) safe. Unfortunately it can't be used with closed proprietary services like iCloud.
https://www.boxcryptor.com/en/boxcryptor


RE: Typical
By Labotomizer on 9/2/2014 4:45:53 PM , Rating: 2
No, the reason most services don't do this is because if you lose your key there is no way to recover it. People can't keep track of an 8 character password they use on a regular basis. Do you think they'll be able to keep track of their encryption key?

You have a valid point if the data is really that secure. But I have around 10GB of pics on OneDrive and if they were to get hacked I'd be annoyed but it wouldn't be a huge deal.


RE: Typical
By roykahn on 9/3/2014 4:52:03 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
But I have around 10GB of pics on OneDrive and if they were to get hacked I'd be annoyed but it wouldn't be a huge deal.


Got many nudies or extra-marital activities on there? It could become a big deal.


RE: Typical
By Labotomizer on 9/3/2014 7:32:06 AM , Rating: 2
Nah, which is probably why I'm not so worried about it. And I'm not sure I'd store extra-marital activities with the family photos. That seems pretty poor judgment.


RE: Typical
By roykahn on 9/3/2014 6:37:04 PM , Rating: 2
*yawn* I'll just take you off my to-hack list then.


RE: Typical
By Kornfeld on 9/3/2014 4:56:13 PM , Rating: 2
Still it is a bit disappointing if you follow the link that Apple provided and read over their standards for "strong" passwords. The 8+ character with one number, one letter, etc. standards are really not adequate these days if the user database is compromised. At that point one of the best defenses or at least one of the best ways to buy some time is to increase minimum length of passwords to make any brute force attacks much more time consuming.

Apple like to go their own way on things in many areas. Why not lead in this area and set standards that are more in tune with modern risks. When they have public controversies like this one, whether they are deserving of criticism or not, they could point to practices like this and demonstrate that they're leading efforts to improve security and prevent the types of breaches that other vendors are experiencing.


RE: Typical
By retrospooty on 9/2/2014 4:14:03 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, I can see the new catch phrase from Apple "Your setting it up wrong"


"This is about the Internet.  Everything on the Internet is encrypted. This is not a BlackBerry-only issue. If they can't deal with the Internet, they should shut it off." -- RIM co-CEO Michael Lazaridis














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